I hope this situation only lasts for a couple of days, because I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

I got my NOA1 for my K1 petition in mid-March. I'm one of the lucky 1100 who were recalled after getting NOA2s and interviews. People who applied 2 weeks EARLIER than I did don't have to comply with IMBRA, while dozens of people who applied weeks or months LATER at VSC have already been sent the new RFE. We have no cohesive answers, no official explanation.

Nice how-do-you-do at a crucial step in building a life together. Are we cursed? Do we deserve such a negative omen?

I'm not putting myself in front of anyone else, but I just want to know if you think that this is a new brand of cruel and unusual punishment, some Caesarian Ides Of March thing, fate or what??

Just venting.

My noa1 was march 10th, yes it sucks but life sucks ive gotten over it

Having the interview pulled out from under you after everything else certainly adds insult to injury. I really do feel for you situation.

"The curse of IMBRA" has a Star Trek ring to it.

this is going to be cold hearted..but guess what.. IMBRA is the FUCKING LAW...deal with it...........

Think of it this way...timing is everything. Counteract your whinging about IMBRA by thinking...wow...being in the RIGHT place and the RIGHT time made me meet my fiancee!!

See? brightens up your day right?

Brother Dean is a right thinking kind of man

Absolutely on both counts. I believe everything happens for a reason, so I am sure you will figure out why when it is the right time like when you met your SO.

Hey Gang!

This may seem really mean, but everyone is affected by IMBRA; even people like me whose applications only went in this week with the new forms. There appears to be no rhyme or reason to what order people get their RFEs, or even their NOAs. As much as I hate the delay caused by this new law, the reasoning behind the law is to protect people before they are hurt.

Trust me, I feel your pain...I wish I could be with my love more than anything but I realize there is nothing I can do about it. I am about the least patient person I know but I know this will all be worth it in the end. My love is forever, this is only temporary.

Although it must be hard to hear of people who have come after you getting their RFE's first, or even new applicants moving through the process with what seems like ease but why not be happy for them and support them. I know, I may sound horrible but everytime I hear a positive story on here about how people have moved through the process, I am empowered to believe that maybe, just maybe, Daniel and I will have an easy journey. Or in the very least, will make it through eventually. Have faith and believe that you are travelling this road for a reason. God only gives us as much as we can handle, although there are times that He has more faith in us than we do.

Remember, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and that is being in the arms of the person you love for the rest of your life. Do not look so much to tomorrow that you forget to live today.

Best wishes to all

His paperwork getting lost is not the law. Its a fucked up system. So yes, that is very cold.

so chucles, why is posted under the curse on imbra...and the system is fucked up for everyone to a certain extent..

This is so very true, and you are so right. Cheers

I dunno... and I suppose it is. But now we got people whining about the whining, so I thought I would whine about you whining about the whining. If someone wants to whine about my whine about your whine of the whine, then thats fine!

Or we can just not click on subjects we don't like! Gotta love the internet!

flame war with dean???? i'm in shock!!!!!

don't distract him, chuckles!!! he's working on his VJ Sensitivity Training for posters!!!!


IMBRA whiners should go here!!!!!

Its not a flame war!

I would not spar with the great almaty2004 !!

Oh My... That goes beyond stupidity, and it goes way past disrespectful. That is just uncalled for.

Definitely a perfect example of a 1st class chopf##k azzhat if I've ever seen one.

Oh you are so cute when you are angry!!! coochie coo!!!

and you are such a moron all the time.

Why are you still posting?

Such a pleasure to have my post hijacked by old time flamer's day at the rest home! While some valuable thoughts were passed, some people whom I can't imagine getting as far as they have exposed their egos without even addressing my core question, which is - doncha think this is cruel and unusual?
Yes, wisdom about the capriciousness of timing is truth.
Saying 'Beeyatch be cool. That's how it is, bro!' with stronger language is juvenile.
And yes, much more juvenile than my whinging.

I know what you mean. Its amazing the way my perspective has changed over the last 6 months. Before embarking on this long long long seperation, I brasenly believed that, no matter what if you love each other it will work.
Im starting to think its not that easy. It really takes strain. Then, throw a wrench into the gear works? Now its even harder.....wow. I cant take it for granted anymore that this relationship will take care of itself. It really needs to be maintained.

Although I dont think this is any kind of an F-U to any of us personally. I do believe this law was created for a good reason, its just that we are the unlucky shmucks who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, to be the ones and only ones who actually already were knee deep in the process and were then asked to get to the back of the line again.

There is a finite number of us though. After all of us NOA1&NOA2, packet3, interview cancelled'ers are finally cleaned out of the system, all new applicants for this K1 visa in the future will be given the 129F right off the bat and wont have to worry about any of this mind numbing backpeddlling.


Hang in there. Muster the kind of strength inside of yourself that you have never had to muster. This may be the thing that you remember for the rest of your life. The biggest challenge. One day you will be proud and also in awe of yourself for having gotten through it.

Many of us may actually have to crawl or be dragged through that finish line. Old and grey and withered. But it will happen.

You have every right to vent. If they want to enforce the f'ing law, do it, but what's this recall BS. Let them enforce the law when they have their damn forms up-to-date first.

-A level of civility also means a level of maturity.

To answer the question: This is cruel and unusual because we are being punished for following the law.




here here!

Cigarovich:

I for one am just getting started in this process, and I sympathize with you. I have not had the setback you had, so I can't compare my setback(s) with yours, but I just wanted to voice my support. Being in love with someone, and not being able to be with them is terrible... any way you look at it.

"... I do believe this law was created for a good reason..."

IMBRA was NOT created for a good reason. This law was intentionally designed to make it difficult for people to EVEN GET TO KNOW potential foreign spouses, under the guise of protecting women from potential abuse.

Interestingly enough, the law contains specific language that puts restraints on so-called "International Marriage Brokers", but SPECIFICALLY provides for the large USA based "International Marriage Brokers" such as Match.com... it helps to have a powerful lobby...

The number of women being abused due to international marriages is extremely minute compared to the domestic cases of abuse... but the media loves to focus on the senationalized international stories... the media also loves to lump in the concept of "human trafficking" with "foreign brides" to convince the public that they are one and the same...

If they really wanted to stop abuse, they would have put their "good intentions" into domestic prevention of abuse... if they really wanted a fair law, it would apply to the big domestic based companies like Match.com as well...

This law, like most laws that get media attention, is simply cleverly disguised gobbledygook, serving as a smokescreen for a handful of people with a hidden political/economic agenda.

Now ironcially, even people who met on Match.com International, may suffer the consequences of this law slowing up immigration... but what does Match.com care at this point, they already increased their market share by making it more difficult for NON-domestic companies to do business in the first place...

We can all thank Tahiri Justice Center(TJC), a principle sponsor and supporter of IMBRA, for this current visa mess. There is already enough documentation of financial and psychological damage done to many of us here as results TJC's actions. If the damage continue to grow, perhaps a class-action lawsuit against Tahiri may be necessary.

IMBRA is being challenged in court as we speak. Don't worry, that won't make your visa's take any longer. This law is overbearing and not of our constitution as it's written. Most of all it implies all men to be abusers and forces men to disclose all their personal information to a woman even before they can say one word to each other. A speedy receival to all of your visa's. Please let your representatives in Congress and Senate know how you feel about this law. It will help future VJ'ers.

I really don't understand why you think a "sponsor and supporter of IMBRA" could be sued for damages done by the law. Another point, damages done by the law itself have not been manifested yet, the only reason people are upset so far is the way the USCIS and other agencies have stalled and were unprepared on IMBRA's implementation. Ae you saying that all you want out of this is no change in the law and just a chunk of change? What about your fiancee? The law was passed by US legislators and they are the ones responsible for IMBRA's existence. I highly suggest getting involved with your congresspeople in order to understand and challenge the law in a more effective fashion if you are interested in that at all.