Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:33 PM
I probably don't need to tell you all... But the longer I am here the more I think there are people "posing" as couples trying to get a visa... am I out there and going all "conspiracy theory" or what????
Rajaa
Jenn!
Jul 22 2008, 08:34 PM
Do elaborate!
brnidokiegurl
Jul 22 2008, 08:35 PM
what made u think this? something said or happen, i suppose there is fraud on all levels
k & o
Jul 22 2008, 08:40 PM
got my curiosity.... do tell!
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:40 PM
well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
brnidokiegurl
Jul 22 2008, 08:42 PM
sometimes someone like that will get registered on here, as u see not many MENA post, if they need help they can also ask like the rest of us
Nagishkaw
Jul 22 2008, 08:43 PM
Good grief! Report them to Ewok if they are spamming you.
Jomo's girl
Jul 22 2008, 08:43 PM
I think there are people on lots of web sites posing so they can get some sick pleasure out of secretly mocking us in LDR's.
I don't get the point one bit. But, I do agree with you.
Nawal
Jul 22 2008, 08:44 PM
Yes, explain more

I'm real and I'm sure my husband is...LMAO

However, u might be right.
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:45 PM
yeah.... there is another VJ member that had the same problem with one of the men too. I just didn't want to report them in case I was wrong and was wondering if anyone else was having the same problems.
Jenn!
Jul 22 2008, 08:45 PM
Well, first of all, helping someone with immigration advice is highly discouraged here on VJ - there is no one to verify the information being exchanged - this is what I tell people who ask me for immigration advice via PM. But that's really a moot point if your suspicions are correct. Be sure to let a mod know if any of these PMs are of a harassing nature.
Nawal
Jul 22 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them
brnidokiegurl
Jul 22 2008, 08:48 PM
advise them best to ask in forum form so that they will get the correct answers from many and see if they post
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:48 PM
will do Jenn... I made the mistake of giving one of them my IM address for his fiance to talk to me about Islam.... she's never been around it's always him....... but just wondered if it was just me..... lol
Nawal
Jul 22 2008, 08:52 PM
As everyone said....have them post to all of us...if not and its harassing, report them and block them.
brnidokiegurl
Jul 22 2008, 08:53 PM
ys it has happen before and the girl actually gave out home phone and he started constantly calling and bothering, almost damageing her relationship
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:55 PM
QUOTE(Nawal @ Jul 22 2008, 06:46 PM)

QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them

and a man pretending to be a girl?? and someone pretending to be a USC and not ???? (sorry bad at hints)
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 08:58 PM
ok so it's not just me.... thanks VJ peeps.
Nagishkaw
Jul 22 2008, 08:58 PM
Nawal
Jul 22 2008, 09:03 PM
QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:55 PM)

QUOTE(Nawal @ Jul 22 2008, 06:46 PM)

QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them

and a man pretending to be a girl?? and someone pretending to be a USC and not ???? (sorry bad at hints)

It's okay...I'm not great at them or giving them either! LOL

But all of this is possible whether here or any other site
charles!
Jul 22 2008, 09:05 PM
QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 08:48 PM)

will do Jenn... I made the mistake of giving one of them my IM address for his fiance to talk to me about Islam.... she's never been around it's always him....... but just wondered if it was just me..... lol
you can block pm's from individuals on vj and you can also block pm's from someone on about every instant messenger.
Alhamdulillah
Jul 22 2008, 10:56 PM
I have no doubt at all that some of the memebers of VJ, particularly in MENA, are fake/posers/trolls.... no doubts at all.
TamaraLovesAdam
Jul 22 2008, 11:01 PM
thankfully I havent had to deal with one in a long time and it was a male that I thought was strange how the "fiance" would NEVER be on VJ and ask questions... was always the MENA fella and very rude at that... maybe its the same guy?!
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 22 2008, 11:31 PM
QUOTE(TamaraLovesAdam @ Jul 22 2008, 09:01 PM)

thankfully I havent had to deal with one in a long time and it was a male that I thought was strange how the "fiance" would NEVER be on VJ and ask questions... was always the MENA fella and very rude at that... maybe its the same guy?!
maybeeeeee... I guess its a warning and a wake up call for me.
julianna
Jul 23 2008, 01:32 AM
I think there are probably posers and trolls on any forum. Just be careful a out giving out any personal information to anyone, and if it feels weird-- it may just be. Public exchange is your friend. I rarely PM men and if I do, it's a business thing. It's not that i don't think some are nice, but I just don't do that. I also feel realyl weird if a man, especially one who claims to follow a certain religious POV, is to PM me for almost any reason. I feel like advice, etc can be asked on the forum publically. No need to be private unless you have somehting you wish to keep hidden.
Staashi
Jul 23 2008, 06:52 AM
QUOTE(Jomo @ Jul 22 2008, 09:43 PM)

I think there are people on lots of web sites posing so they can get some sick pleasure out of secretly mocking us in LDR's.
I don't get the point one bit. But, I do agree with you.
Very true...we had a troll on the Removing Conditions Board who was mocking us because we were complaining about the year+ wait for the 10-year cards. He was very hateful and nasty...told us that we should all be satisfied that CIS was even taking the time to deal with our situation and that when they get to it...blah, blah, blah. He was so spiteful, even made something up like his wife had her conditions removed recently...he was just there to stir up the pot. I seriously felt like if people could jump through his computer they would to wring his neck.
Trolls are all over these boards and especially since immigration is such a hot topic, they come not in peace, but to flame all of us.
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 23 2008, 09:11 AM
I noticed that there are a few... thanks again... I'll not be so "helpful" in the future.
just_Jackie
Jul 23 2008, 09:33 AM
Gaby&Talbert
Jul 23 2008, 09:38 AM
Maybe it is ICE?
morocco4ever
Jul 23 2008, 10:28 AM
QUOTE(Nawal @ Jul 22 2008, 09:46 PM)

QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them

Leyla
Jul 23 2008, 11:22 AM
QUOTE(morocco4ever @ Jul 23 2008, 11:28 AM)

QUOTE(Nawal @ Jul 22 2008, 09:46 PM)

QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them


hmm... sounds shady. I've seen a few situations that raise my eyebrow. Ultimately that is their business. I have a friend I met on my flight back from Morocco in September 07. She was in Morocco visiting her fiance. When she told me about him I was a little skeptical about their relationship. For example: She paid for EVERYTHING when she was there. Religiously and culturally speaking I'm pretty sure than man should be doing that. She paid for her own plane ticket, her food, her ring, her everything. Plus he claimed to be a good Muslim (and didn't even pray which is a big deal). He seemed to be using her. I wasn't about to judge (because I didn't know the guy).
She began getting all of her forms together for her I-129F and sent him her fathers watch as a gift to him (her father committed suicide by the way. So it was very dear to her heart). I December she found out from him that he had been not only SEEING another girl but SLEEPING with her as well! My friend was heart broken. She found it hard to let go of him. It took her 4 months to completely break it off with him. Then recently she was IMed by another woman. This woman was engaged to my friends ex fiance! The weird part was, she wasn't the girl he was originally cheating with in December, but she was engaged to him at that time. And this woman also paid for her own plane ticket and her own accomidations while she was there. Then, whie she was there she did some detective work, found out about my friend, and a handfull of other girls this man has been talking to! She found saved conversations where he said goodbye to my friend, logged off, logged onto a different name and began talking to this othr woman!
I was so disturbed by this news. But THANK GOD for all of this hitting the fan. If it didn't, my friend would be in a terrible position right now with a man that does NOT deserve a woman like her. I think the woman are going to report him somehow. He seems like he's just out to get a greencard.
I pray that all of you have good men (and women) that love you. I pra that all of you spend the rest of your lives with them and have a happy life. No one deserves to be treated like my friend was.
all the best,
Michelle
ME~n~HIM
Jul 23 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(babyeshell @ Jul 23 2008, 11:22 AM)

hmm... sounds shady. I've seen a few situations that raise my eyebrow. Ultimately that is their business. I have a friend I met on my flight back from Morocco in September 07. She was in Morocco visiting her fiance. When she told me about him I was a little skeptical about their relationship. For example: She paid for EVERYTHING when she was there. Religiously and culturally speaking I'm pretty sure than man should be doing that. She paid for her own plane ticket, her food, her ring, her everything. Plus he claimed to be a good Muslim (and didn't even pray which is a big deal). He seemed to be using her. I wasn't about to judge (because I didn't know the guy).
She began getting all of her forms together for her I-129F and sent him her fathers watch as a gift to him (her father committed suicide by the way. So it was very dear to her heart). I December she found out from him that he had been not only SEEING another girl but SLEEPING with her as well! My friend was heart broken. She found it hard to let go of him. It took her 4 months to completely break it off with him. Then recently she was IMed by another woman. This woman was engaged to my friends ex fiance! The weird part was, she wasn't the girl he was originally cheating with in December, but she was engaged to him at that time. And this woman also paid for her own plane ticket and her own accomidations while she was there. Then, whie she was there she did some detective work, found out about my friend, and a handfull of other girls this man has been talking to! She found saved conversations where he said goodbye to my friend, logged off, logged onto a different name and began talking to this othr woman!
I was so disturbed by this news. But THANK GOD for all of this hitting the fan. If it didn't, my friend would be in a terrible position right now with a man that does NOT deserve a woman like her. I think the woman are going to report him somehow. He seems like he's just out to get a greencard.
I pray that all of you have good men (and women) that love you. I pra that all of you spend the rest of your lives with them and have a happy life. No one deserves to be treated like my friend was.
all the best,
Michelle
This sounds all too familiar to someone I know from this site. He was physically, mentally, & emotionally abusive to her in Morocco and my husband assisted in her escape. I was very saddened to find out she continued w/ the petition and he is actually here now and they are married.

To each his own, though. People have to make these decisions for themselves no matter how stupid anyone else thinks it is. I pray for their safety.
morocco4ever
Jul 23 2008, 11:58 AM
It happens. My husband had a friend that was talking to several women online, and was sending him money. One girl actually was sending him money that he used to entertain another woman that he had here visiting him. Then a third woman came into the picture and she was sending him money while he was planning to marry the woman that came for a visit. He decided to break off the relationship with her so he wouldn't be found out by saying he was dying. What an A hole!
That same woman found out the truth and found another man in Morocco (that my husband also knows). He begged her to take her time and get to know him before she committed her heart again. He knew he was still frequenting a dating website after they had decided to marry, so he suggested that she bait him. She chose not to listen, flew to Morocco and married him. Now the word in Morocco is that he has been seen around drunk and with "specific kinds" of women, if you catch my drift. My husband feels he is to blame, but I told him not to feel guilty. He tried to help her, but if she won't listen there isn't anything more he can do.
Lets just say that my husband has learned alot about his so called friends, and has cut off most of his contact with them.
caybee
Jul 23 2008, 12:26 PM
Years ago, I knew of a man who was talking to several women online, keeping them unaware of each other. To those not in his sights, he was pretty open about the fact that he was waiting for the first one who came through with the papers. Last I heard, he'd gotten the visa and was in the U.S., accusing his wife of abuse. What a surprise. Of course, maybe she really was abusive. There are plenty of users in every country, including this one, and everyone here has probably run into at least one or two, even on VJ.
sarahaziz
Jul 23 2008, 01:03 PM
What's new... sometimes I think a couple of women who have been divorced from MENA men still come here to start stuff out of jealousy .
morocco4ever
Jul 23 2008, 01:55 PM
Any one in mind?
brnidokiegurl
Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM
divorced and still around? do we know they are divorced?
morocco4ever
Jul 23 2008, 02:11 PM
Not sure, but I wouldn't doubt it.
Cin&Anil
Jul 23 2008, 02:39 PM
Oh, I got that one..
I thought it was just me.. wow, I feel better .. well not really.
Questions were way to personal for someone who was married and knowing I am engaged..
Thank you for saying that..
Pattu Rani
Jul 23 2008, 03:01 PM
I wonder if the simpleton is back under another userid??? I haven't seen him around and assumed he was banned....
Hanging in there
Jul 23 2008, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 09:48 PM)

will do Jenn... I made the mistake of giving one of them my IM address for his fiance to talk to me about Islam.... she's never been around it's always him....... but just wondered if it was just me..... lol
There are members that have either been BANNED or divorced that pm trying to wreak havoc.
No, you are NOT imagining things.
Hanging in there
Jul 23 2008, 04:27 PM
QUOTE(morocco4ever @ Jul 23 2008, 12:58 PM)

It happens. My husband had a friend that was talking to several women online, and was sending him money. One girl actually was sending him money that he used to entertain another woman that he had here visiting him. Then a third woman came into the picture and she was sending him money while he was planning to marry the woman that came for a visit. He decided to break off the relationship with her so he wouldn't be found out by saying he was dying. What an A hole!
That same woman found out the truth and found another man in Morocco (that my husband also knows). He begged her to take her time and get to know him before she committed her heart again. He knew he was still frequenting a dating website after they had decided to marry, so he suggested that she bait him. She chose not to listen, flew to Morocco and married him. Now the word in Morocco is that he has been seen around drunk and with "specific kinds" of women, if you catch my drift. My husband feels he is to blame, but I told him not to feel guilty. He tried to help her, but if she won't listen there isn't anything more he can do.
Lets just say that my husband has learned alot about his so called friends, and has cut off most of his contact with them.
The problem is that when you try to tell people anything, sometimes they turn it around on you ,either by telling their spouse etc , then you end up in a mess. There was a 48 year old woman here in Orlando who has married 3 Moroccans that she has all given papers to and they have all left her and she still doesnt get it. When someone is in trouble they rarely listen to advice. INCLUDE ME IN THE DUMB ### CATAGORY please
brnidokiegurl
Jul 23 2008, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(Hanging in there @ Jul 23 2008, 03:27 PM)

QUOTE(morocco4ever @ Jul 23 2008, 12:58 PM)

It happens. My husband had a friend that was talking to several women online, and was sending him money. One girl actually was sending him money that he used to entertain another woman that he had here visiting him. Then a third woman came into the picture and she was sending him money while he was planning to marry the woman that came for a visit. He decided to break off the relationship with her so he wouldn't be found out by saying he was dying. What an A hole!
That same woman found out the truth and found another man in Morocco (that my husband also knows). He begged her to take her time and get to know him before she committed her heart again. He knew he was still frequenting a dating website after they had decided to marry, so he suggested that she bait him. She chose not to listen, flew to Morocco and married him. Now the word in Morocco is that he has been seen around drunk and with "specific kinds" of women, if you catch my drift. My husband feels he is to blame, but I told him not to feel guilty. He tried to help her, but if she won't listen there isn't anything more he can do.
Lets just say that my husband has learned alot about his so called friends, and has cut off most of his contact with them.
The problem is that when you try to tell people anything, sometimes they turn it around on you ,either by telling their spouse etc , then you end up in a mess. There was a 48 year old woman here in Orlando who has married 3 Moroccans that she has all given papers to and they have all left her and she still doesnt get it. When someone is in trouble
they rarely listen to advice. INCLUDE ME IN THE DUMB ### CATAGORY pleaseevery one has been there at one time
morocco4ever
Jul 23 2008, 04:34 PM
QUOTE(Hanging in there @ Jul 23 2008, 05:27 PM)

QUOTE(morocco4ever @ Jul 23 2008, 12:58 PM)

It happens. My husband had a friend that was talking to several women online, and was sending him money. One girl actually was sending him money that he used to entertain another woman that he had here visiting him. Then a third woman came into the picture and she was sending him money while he was planning to marry the woman that came for a visit. He decided to break off the relationship with her so he wouldn't be found out by saying he was dying. What an A hole!
That same woman found out the truth and found another man in Morocco (that my husband also knows). He begged her to take her time and get to know him before she committed her heart again. He knew he was still frequenting a dating website after they had decided to marry, so he suggested that she bait him. She chose not to listen, flew to Morocco and married him. Now the word in Morocco is that he has been seen around drunk and with "specific kinds" of women, if you catch my drift. My husband feels he is to blame, but I told him not to feel guilty. He tried to help her, but if she won't listen there isn't anything more he can do.
Lets just say that my husband has learned alot about his so called friends, and has cut off most of his contact with them.
The problem is that when you try to tell people anything, sometimes they turn it around on you ,either by telling their spouse etc , then you end up in a mess. There was a 48 year old woman here in Orlando who has married 3 Moroccans that she has all given papers to and they have all left her and she still doesnt get it. When someone is in trouble they rarely listen to advice. INCLUDE ME IN THE DUMB ### CATAGORY please
There may be times that everyone else can see what is going on but you, but there are times that no one saw it coming. The point is that it does no good to blame yourself, it is the user and abuser that is to blame. All we can do is to take the lesson learned and not allow it again.
Rajaa_Reda
Jul 23 2008, 09:01 PM
my husband has an account here but rarely uses it... I feel comfortable knowing my man is good not perfect but good. Hamdolah The other's often cause us to question our men and their motivations. I know Morocco isn't paradise and is very difficult to get out of but it's the bad apples that ruin it for the good ones in the barrel.
S and S
Jul 23 2008, 09:33 PM
I have no clue about this guy who is sending PMs. I guess I should be thankful I haven't been bothered. The last time we had one of these problems I wasn't bothered either. I wish people like this would find something else to do.
AlHayatZween
Jul 23 2008, 10:32 PM
Sometimes i get PMs from men in MENA, but they all think i'm a man !!
They always start off, "Brother..."
charles!
Jul 24 2008, 12:15 AM
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM)

divorced and still around? do we know they are divorced?
i'd dayum sure divorce a few of them
julianna
Jul 24 2008, 12:23 AM
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jul 23 2008, 11:15 PM)

QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM)

divorced and still around? do we know they are divorced?
i'd dayum sure divorce a few of them

Is this in reference to whom I think it is? Fore?
QUOTE(AlHayatZween @ Jul 23 2008, 09:32 PM)

Sometimes i get PMs from men in MENA, but they all think i'm a man !!
They always start off, "Brother..."
LOL!
Donna A
Jul 24 2008, 03:10 AM
QUOTE(Nawal @ Jul 22 2008, 09:46 PM)

QUOTE(Rajaa_Reda @ Jul 22 2008, 06:40 PM)

well.... I've had couple of men PM me about "helping" them.... they say they are muslim but when I talk to them they don't act like it. They actually seem as if they're shopping.....
I don't want to say names in case I am wrong but .... strange. I even had my husband talk to them and all he will tell me is never respond back to them for ANY reason.
Just wondering...
Ahhh...rings a bell...there is simply one male (hint hint) that has done this to several members....just block them

im wondering if this (hint hint) u r talking about is the same one who bothers me and wants to be "special friends" all the time. gets on my nerves big time.
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