I tend to be an extremely non jealous person but I have had a couple of experiences with my husband here since he has been here that surprised me.

When I was overseas, this never ever ever happened but 2 times this has happened here.

We stopped at an arab coffee run by an Iraqi single woman ( tight jeans with the glitter on the butt.. you get the visual)My husband ran into get a coffee ( this was in another town) and I was still in the car. I got out of the car and went inside and this woman was literally leaning over the counter flirting heavy with the low cut blouse heavy eye liner and the whole habiti thing. I asked my husband what was the deal. I guess every guy going into the joint was new prey because she wasnt married

The second time was at a place worked at and frequented by Moroccans. This girl with the whole 2 inch eyeliner completely talked to my husband flirting head on with me right next to her kind of doing the whole eye batting thing and leaning over. I literally wanted to jump the counter and pop her.

We go to alot of places frequented by arabs and have been waited on by many Moroccan waitresses and lebanese and never had this problem. Its only happened 2 times. Never one time has any American seen me sitting or standing with my husband and started full on flirting. I was really shocked

I was wondering if any of you have ever been with your husband and a woman from his culture COMPLETELY ignored your presence and either came on to your husband or flirted heavily. I am not talking the typical HERE HONEY from the waitress etc. I am talking knowing you are there and completely disrespecting your role as his wife or demeaning you.

Its only happened 2 times since I have known him. Both were arab women. Not one American has. Not one arab woman overseas did it. I wonder if somehow the arab woman sees us as not really married ( which is kind of hard seeing I am 7 months pregnant. I am very curious to see if anyone else on MENA has either been in the home country for their husband or here and had another woman throw herself at their husband

I'd be more concerned about his reaction to it than what they're doing. As long as you trust him, just put it out of your head. In fact, if you think of it like that, you'll really only feel pity for girls who behave like that. It's rather embarrassing and desperate.

Im sorry this happened to you. BTW how did your husband react to this? That can also let one know how to deal with the situation. If its was about the woman being flirtatious, but he was not receptive.. this happens. But if he was receptive.. I'd have a good talk with him.

Check your husbands reactions first - women will always always be catty like that.


To be honest with you I'm arab myself and I USED to think like that but I NEVER flirted with any other American woman's Arab husband. I'd be at the Arab store, bakery, parties, etc.. and I'd get the dirty looks from an American girl/woman when her husband is looking. I guess it's more of him being in USA and seeing another Arab girl here too or he just thinks the girl is beautiful.

It's not true - It just really depends on how much respect your husband has for you in that matter. My husband if a girl is smiling or looking at him he will pull me closer and kiss me that's how I secured my trust with him all the years we been together. It's like we're freaking 80 year olds and jealousy isn't there as it was before. I don't look at men here there's no use he could be someone elses husband or bf so what am I looking at him when I have a beautiful husband to be with? I think this is an important issue you need to talk with your spouse about. Be patient , honest, and understanding. I'm so happy in my marriage my heart could fall out it's all because of how much my husband MAKES and puts effort for me to trust him. Def talk to your spouse about this what's bothering you. God bless.

Oh yeah and I've had freaking 3 women back home try to flirt with my husband - 1 tryed to grab and hug him - she is older than him and he slapped her for disrespecting me like that (his un married cousin)

another one of his dumb cousins - she would always try to jump in our private conversations or his conversations with her dad. He'd just give her a disgusted look and her dad would push her away and apologize to me and my spouse. it's kind of sad I was really close to her before I got married.

and the last one when I was getting highlights in my hair this girl slid her hijab off onto her shoulders infront of my husband and sat next to him. He just got up and sat behind me giving me that look like "did you see that"

Hope my hubby is like yours sara. I have only been with my husband in his country and he was very respectful as were the girls. I hope I don't experience any differences when he is here in the states. I am not usually jealous either and girls here are VERY BOLD! Alot depends on how he handles it. If she's working it and he is completely oblivious (thats what my husband says he will be haha will see) girls will give up. Some women are just flirts with everyone period especially if it is her business or she works for tips. This is the land of no respect and everyone is fair game unfortunately. I am ashamed of that about the USA frankly. Our values are so watered down it's embarrasing. His reaction is the only saving grace.

they can fish all they want, but if he ain't biting they are wasting their time.

ABSOLUTELY. It used to happen more often when we used to go out more often, now pretty much most of the israeli community knows he has two kids etc so its not as bad but it still happens from time to time.

Next time a woman does that you should whisper something in your husband's ear, give a sexy look and smile at him while you do it. Then look at that woman with as much pity as you can.

Just a suggestion, but that is what I would do. Let her feel like a fool.

another alternative would be to look at her and say "threesome?"
lol
not sure who watches seinfeld but george and jerry tried that to get a girl off of their back!

hmmm, interesting thought

what if the gal hitting on her husband says sure, as she swings both ways?

That is the one problem with that idea, lol

I worry about this.. he's only been in Morocco.. girls are different here. Gulp, i trust him but he has no idea how bad it can be...

I don't want to come off as bragging or infatuated but I feel the need to share the happiness I feel and respect I feel and I hope everyone gets that in this life. My spouse before comming here he said I have nothing there I'm only comming for my wife so she can finish her school and I'm comming for work. He said as for girls - A good man will always remain a good man. He always knows his respect if he is where 7araam is or a clean place. He said if I put him in a room with promiscuous people he wouldn't touch anyone of them because he knows his respect as a man and he's not a dog who needs "anything like that" from a woman. He will only wait and plead for his wife to give. With that said I think and I would hope most or all arab spouses here think like that. No matter where they go they are still respectable men.

If your husband was with you maybe he wanted to test your jealousy to see if you really love him. It sounds childish I know, but I've seen that happen right in front of my eyes with my friends spouse but they love each other so much and prove it. That's what matters. Actions speak louder than words.

I'm sorry martiniolive but everytime I see your avatar I'd swear it looks like you're milking a cow.



Ok. Apparently I'm up way past my bedtime. Time for this Iowa farm-girl to get to bed.

BTW I completely agree with your comment on our values being watered down here in the US. It is embarrassing.

OK nu here's my husbands favorite of me he took it on his web cam

the only thing that has happened here is some nurse told him "if he wasnt married she would take him home with her" yeah right...im sure if he said ok she wouldnt have thought twice about taking him home married or not.

when he was in saudi arabia he was working at some place and there was some filipeno who out of the clear blue sky said "im not a virgin" to him...in other words lets have sex. he just looked at her and said good for u. she kept trying her hardest to get with him fully aware he was ready to get married to me. she even had the gall to send him a text message while i was in syria which wasnt even cute and he wrote back....im for my wife only. he never heard from her again...thank god.

and even beleive it or not when he was at that same job (it was only a 2 week assignment) there was a saudi girl who came to his office and uncovered her face and he wasnt in the office yet. so when he walked in there she sat uncovered and hurried and covered her face and acted like he walked in on her and it was by accident she was uncovered....helloooooo she was in his office....wouldnt he sooner or later walk in? well she acted all embarressed and then said...did u find me beautiful? he told her he didnt even see her so he wouldnt know. and she said....well all people tell me im beautiful. he said thats nice, so what do u need?

also at that same place he gave the head nurse his cell number cuz they didnt have phone installed yet. next thing u know he was getting calls from woman...oh i must have the wrong number hoping he would start talking to them. he had so many calls he had to yell at the head nurse about giving out his number. he said this is for business only and your woman are calling me all day and night. it has to stop.

so yes...all woman of all cultures can be very aggressive if they want to be.

Yes, this happened to me in Morocco 1 time. This last time i was there.
We were riding the train from Casablanca to Marakesh and alone in one of the cars with another young woman. She sat across from my husband and kept asking him obvious questions like, "What stop are we at?" "How much longer till..." He would answer her and then be silent. Then she slipped off her shoes and kinda raised here feet to the seat so she was sitting with her crouch wide, wide open (she had jeans on, thank goodness!!) She looked at me and then turned back to my husband to ask more stupid questions. He got fed up with her and just said he didn't know. When she got off the train, she only said good-bye to him.

i was so pissed!!! Apparently he didn't even notice her body language... he was just annoyed that she was asking him stupid questions. but still!! wtf...

He's not in the US yet, but yes... to answer your question. i do worry overly flirtatious women hitting on him. Not that he would even notice or respond... but sometimes women can be really mean to other women (all cultures) and it is one of the few things that gets me extremely angry.

Please don't change the picture because of what I said!!!!! I was laughing at myself and why I kept thinking that's what it looked like to me! Both pictures are beautiful though!!

It's cool it's good to change the avatar from time to time. After you said that I kept thinking the same thing LOL. I was warming my hands by the fireplace in Ifrane because it was sooooo cold there in April when my husband and I stayed there. Now I know what I looked like when I used to milk our goats when I lived in the country hahaha wow walking down memory lane now.....those were the days of our lives

Other women flirt with my hubby all the time when I'm not around (according to him... ) but never right in front of me.
I guess they can smell that hormone called "redneck girl" that I naturally excrete which warns them of the severe beat down in store for them if they do My husband calls me his beduoin redneck all the time

Geez I'll have to ask my husband if he's encountered this at all. To be honest I think the only time we pass by arabic women are when we're at the mosque for Junnah and since the boys are separated from the girls I've never seen any flirting going on.

He did tell me though that he met a woman from Algiers at the career center...she took an interview prep class that he took. He told me about her but the extent of their conversation was her telling him he should go to the mosque that her husband belongs to. He started going there when I don't go because it's men-only and closer to our house. She was in her early 60's btw so I never even thought to be jealous.

Bottom line my attitude has always been if he wants it he can go for it. I don't want someone that doesn't want me just as much and I don't have the energy to fight for any man. If I have to fight for him then sayonara. I'll have the clicker back to my self. I don't think I'll ever have to worry about this though since he's just not that type of guy.

martini i always thought you looked like barbie!! you kinda resemble this Lebani singer Elissa she's gorgeous!

You will not see it in Boston like you would here because of the demographics. There are lots of young arab singles here both men and women and tons of arab women that are without partners because it is very hard for an arab girl to get married here once she has been here a while.New York City, Los Angeles, Orlando and Miami have alot of young single arabs. Both men and women

It may not have happened with an American yet, but it will, and probably when you aren't around. My guess is that the Arab women think they are using you for a visa and are on the prowl. Lets face it, the world is full of tramps. There are a butt load of women that find pleasure in taking men away from their spouse/girlfriend. These people are sick and pathetic, and if we show we are threatened it thrills them even more.

The bottom line is that we let our men know that we will not accept any flirting or cheating, bottom line. Then we must trust them to make the right choices.

The woman was not doing that to bother your husband. She was doing that to bother and insult you. I think you gathered that. When a woman in North Africa KNOWS you are with someone and speaks to your husband repeatedly, they are demeaning you in some kind of power kick because it is the only thing they have to barter with. Certainly not intellect. My husband would have women getting in fist fights over him the streets back home before he got married to me. There is a lack of available marriageble men due to divorce, immigration out of the country, and pickiness about who they marry. When An American marries one, you are taking one of the available men. It makes some of the girls bitter and spiteful. I have had alot of my algerian male friends tell me that when they brought their western spouse ( be it English German or American), women made passes at them right in front of the wives. I personally think its not about the guys at all. Its about sticking a knife in the western wife out of spitefulness and jealousy

Tramp is one thing. Coming on to someone's husband when the wife is standing there is another. This is NOT an American trait. Apparently according to my husband, this happens frequently back home because of the shortage of available men. There are divorced women who will pay all the single guys bills back home and fight and compete over them. It makes the guys have an overinflated view of themselves in my opinion.

I think American women for the most part, wont come on to a guy unless he is giving out I am available vibes. These girls saw me standing there very pregnant and continued. I wanted to kill her. All the American women we have seen have been extremely kind and accomodating.

I'm really not sure, but I'm just putting this out there.

Is it possible that there is a perception that Arab women are more likely to do this because there is some insecurity on the USC's part that she is not born into the same culture as her husband? A fear that he might eventually prefer an Arab woman. An American woman flirting wouldn't pose as much of a threat.

Just a thought...

That's what I used to think ^^^ I think it's true to an extent because the men themselves "joke" or talk like that. People can't make this stuff up it really happens. Just depends on the man's self respect for himself.

However...Arab woman or American...why should it matter? The responsibility should be on the man to withstand any temptation from anyone.

When put it in this light, it almost makes it sound worse if he were to be flirting with an Arab woman vs. an American woman.

How many would be more likely to forgive your S.O. if you caught him flirting with an American woman vs. an Arab woman?

Not at all. A bombshell arab woman has her pick of men to choose from around here. She doesnt need to throw herself at man with a pregnant wife in tow. Now a skanky slut who has had her doorknob turned by every single guy in town has nothing else to lose other than to stroke her ego at the expense of other women. Even the sluttiest of the slutty American women I know would NEVER lean over a man with a very pregnant wife and habiti him. I am sorry. This is a cultural perception on the part of the woman talking to him that he married me only for papers and I am invisible. This has nothing to do with me whatsover. I have men flirt with me constantly and I shut down and dont talk to them out of respect for my husband. Yes and even pregnant ( shuddering at the thought)

The redneck in me does not discriminate..... Arab, American, Martian, doesn't matter... they will all get the same beat down if they are flirting with my man right in front of me!

My husband did not flirt with them. He did not even acknowledge them. These were two isolated incidents in the middle of many. Both happened to be arab. Both happened to be dressed much worse than even skanky Americans. I can hardly excuse a woman calling my husband habibi and leaning over him batting her eyes and staring into his as I am standing there. Not in my wildest dreams could I ever imagine an American woman doing that in my presence.

I'm sure there are plenty of American women, Asian women, Hispanic women, etc that would do the same thing. If your husband didn't flirt back, then you should be happy and stop over analyzing it.

I think the other poster nailed it right on the head ( I think it was Jenn or Moroccoforrever I can t recall) I think the girls just thought I was papers and went right along with their bs. It floored me. It certainly has NOT happened alot. But it did happen and I was really shocked.

Behind my back in one thing. When you are standing there is completely something else. I am sorry

or maybe your reputation preceeds you?

Were you really asking for advice and experiences here or just posted this to inform that promiscuous "Arab" women are out there and to give a "heads up" to the other American women. I'm just curious don't take it the wrong way. I do understand girls back in my country or the ones that come here are and can be promiscuous and flirt. However, I've had an American girl at school trying to talk to my husband here and actually tried to tell me she did something with him at a party that was 3 months ago or something and he wasn't even here!! My husbands friend went and told her off and I haven't seen her around ever since. I could say the same thing about "slutty" American women but the truth is his own cousins tried him and tried to talk to him in front of my eyes. American/Arab it doesn't matter women in general can be slutty. I think just like men, these women have low self esteem and they see a married man as a Catch rather than someone they'd want to get serious with. I mean if he could leave a wife and kid he'd definitely leave the next girl. Women aren't the problem here it's the Man if he's giving that attention back.

Sorry, but I have seen it happen time and time again with American, Native American, and Latin women. I am 100% certain that it has happened in all regions. It's not a culture thing, it is a trashy woman power trip thing. I absolutely can't stand women like that.

^^^ It just means they envy what you got. I KNOW that for a fact that's the only reason another woman would try to do that type of thing.

What a big coincidence that I come across this thread today because this happened today in an Indian cafe during lunch. The lady behind the counter spoke Urdu so I am assuming she was Paki. When it dawned on her that my SO was Paki her demeanor drastically changed. She WAS batting those lashes, smiling oh so coyly (she had beautiful teeth, though), and trying really hard to make DIRECT eye contact. I was thinking...dang, this chick is extra bold! LOL. I knew I wasn't imaging this. I didn't say anything to him because he didn't seem to notice at all.

I don't know what it is, but men and women who are married are normally desired by other people...it is one of those bizarre situations. I've seen men who haven't had a date in years find a girlfriend and it seems that all of a sudden every woman wants him. Even me, who I normally never think of myself as hot...I'm cute, but not hot...but you would not believe the looks I'm getting, the "heys", it is unreal. I swear that the little band of gold is like an aphrodisiac instead of kryptonite. I'm not looking at anyone...but when I realize some guy is flirting with me I try to keep my head down so as not to show my blushing. I think that there are slutty women and even bold, bold men out there who are going to try to get a married person because they see us as a big challenge.

Oh, and for you pregnant women who have noticed guys seriously checking you out, you aren't imagining things...I have heard of men who have a huge fetish for pregnant women and they totally dig seeing you in all your belly-glory - when they're checking you out they are fantasizing. How do you like them apples?

omg! outrageous!

once a long time ago, i was dating an American man... we went shopping in a store and the woman (also American) behind the counter, handed me my credit card after my purchase... and started trying to talk to my boyfriend...

i didn't think anything of it, because the thought never entered my mind, until she turned to me with a scathing look and said, "I gave you your credit card, you can go now."

then i said (still in all innocence b/c what did i know?), "oh i'm waiting for him..."

and she said, "You're with him?" really nasty-like. and she gave me those evil snooty eyes...

and i was young! and good-looking at the time!!


i still remember it to this day b/c it was the first time i ever had a woman be really underhanded and nasty to me over some dude.

it happens in all cultures with all people and places, unfortunately.

absolutely... this is exactly what i said in the big argument my husband and i got into afterwards.....

I have to agree, here. Some women just see you as a challenge. If my husband is walking around by himself, no one bothers him. If I am with him, it seems like they come out of the woodwork to cause trouble. I always think he's more desirable cause he's with me? My husband is clueless. I just let it go cause I am not playing games with fools.

I had a gal on here insinuate that she knew my husband from his place of employment in Jamaica. She made some really targeted comments. I showed my husband her PM's and said if there is something I should know, you better make sure you are the one to tell me. He said he had no idea. When pressed, she didn't have a darn thing on him. Didn't even know him cause she was there after he left. Again, why the games?

And, I've had Jamaicans-both men and women-on another Jamaica based web site I am on, talk smack about their fellow countrymen. Why? Jealousy I suspect. What is the point?

Women especially can really be so harsh to one another.

Ok I finally figured out that you are wahrania. I was so confuzzled before. Wahrania I think you need to sit down and drink a cup of whatever and breath in and out and realize that whenever something like this bothers you the reaction that you have is going to be at LEAST 50% hormonal.

You are pregnant and probably don't feel so sexy lately. It's normal. Hang in there pretty soon you'll have your little one to snuggle with and everything will look ok again.

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