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From the website http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=2

posted by Gary Bala, immigration attorney:

"The article states:
"Meanwhile, USCIS is apparantly taking the position that standard administrative protocol allows a six (6) month grace period after passage of a new law such as IMBRA to issue the implementing regulations and release any new required immigration forms."

http://fianceevisalawyer.com/

Administrative protocols are usually viewed more flexibly than other deadlines such as statutes of limitations with a "drop dead" date.

Nevertheless, the Federal Register announcement cited above is an emergency approval request of OMB. This means that, if approved as an emergency request, USCIS will begin using the form immeduately (and for up to 180 days), while the 60 day comment period runs.

http://a257.g.akamaitech.ne...

We know that people affected by the I-129F "recall" are extremely and understandably anxious and are looking for any information at all, and are trying to remain patient.

Our information is that USCIS and State Dept. are well-aware of the "recall" issue, and as soon something definitive is known, we will post it here.

We cannot answer more questions at time. Again, information will be posted as soon as it is available and confirmed.

Thank you. "
05/06 17:21:08

Hehe... No worries, I was chuckling at your post as I was responding back. I love your passion, your future spouse is lucky and in for a challenge OH YEAH!

Back on the IMBRA topic...

Just think, tens of millions of illegals in this country never had to go through what we all are being forced to, simply because we chose to play by the rules. And we are the ones suffering. Tens of millions more in the future too friends, because the flow won't be stopped. How does IMBRA affect them? It doesn't. It just hurts the people that try to do right.

Thanks to the monsters that created the cruel, poorly written law that is IMBRA combined with USCIS having no accountability to anyone, and seemingly no ability to serve the public... well it sucks to be in love with a person not from the USA. Family values my azz.

Hm
I wouldnt say it sucks to be in love with an USC . It is just.....quite a bit of a challenge to come together again .

Keep your head up, everything will be ok eventually....

Lg Isabel

Isabel, those are encouraging words, and even though I am grinning my teeth right now because of the delays, I have to agree.
In the end it is simply a test of our patience..and thats all....tough luck for me that I barely have any patience

Is there any way for a law like this to go into affect without any disruption or slowing of the process? This law is totally necessary and I don't see it as being punished for doing this the "right way" I see it as something positive and that it will start moving faster after the initial shock that the system is currenty going through. Even though illegals don't have to go through this, they also don't have the opportunity to have many of the same privelages as our future spouses who will become legal citizens, legally.

Also, pretty much when anything new goes into effect in any situation, it slows things down for a while until everyone gets situated so I guess we just have to wait until things get settled.

Well I think IMBRA is a good thing so far, just a little messy planned to execute. But I think changes related to immigration are necessary and they have to start somewhere....unfortunately they started with the K petitions.

Isabel



uhhh did I mention that I have almost no patience as well

Lord, immigration is stressful! It's good we have a place to come and vent.

How about I play devil's advocate here?

Ten (maybe 12 or so) million illegals who haven't been playing by the rules. Very true. But they're not crossing the border on a nice jetliner. And they're watching their backs all the time. I wouldn't want to be one of them. Neither you nor your loved one will have those experiences, because you chose to play by the rules. Even if it took longer than you liked.

My husband is from a VWP country. While we were apart, we could have easily planned a journey for him to the US. He could have simply said 'Thanks, I'm just on holiday' when questioned at the port of entry. We then could have happily trotted down to the courthouse for a license and gotten married. We could have filed for Adjustment of Status and probably been granted it, all the while pleading we never planned to marry - we were just overcome in the heat of the moment. And we probably would have been successful.

But we chose not to do that. You made the same choice. In essence you choose to protect your fiance and your relationship by going the path that will insure the least long term bumps. At the end of the day, you'll be better off.

And the law itself is not poorly written. The time structure for it and the implementation of it is the monstrosity.

True that, rebeccajo...all of it.

Well, I woke up this morning with some sad news. I have have to be notified that our case was send back to the US. I emailed the consulate about 2 1/2 weeks ago, and they finally responded this morning.

OUR CASE WAS RETURNED MAY 12.

Our case went thru Vermont, who do I contact to make sure they have received it?

Thanks

That´s the thing.
They won´t tell you anything you can´t find when you check your case status.
That´s all they claim to know about.

I don´t know how someone can agree with this. Not complining about the law itself, but the way they did it.. I am being tortured. I have nothing new about my case.

They didn´t even updated the processing time yesterday, and that could go for ages...

They should say someting clear. This is not fair, it´s really not.

this is such a load of shite!!!

what is this "killing me", "suffering", "torture" c r a p?

all of you who are suffering, dying or being tortured OFF TO IRAQ RIGHT NOW!

and get yourself a reality check!

As per my consular:
Your case file (along with those of other such cases) were sent via FedEx yesterday (May 22) to:
National Visa Center
32 Rochester Ave.
Portsmouth NH 03801

Hope this help...

Wendy

That was pathetic.
You shouldn´t joke about people´s feelings.

Won´t go any further with this. Just think you´re a sad kind of human being.
Have fun.

"killing me" and "torture" are expressions. Obviously, no one is going to die from missing their fiance(e)/partner. The extreme emotional stress, however, IS suffering and could be considered torture (although not exactly, since the wait isn't malicious).

My advice..... chill the hell out. Most of the people on this forum are dealing with an amazing level of stress while they try to legally be with their significant other.

I'm happy for you, however, that you apparently don't have emotions and aren't bothered in the least by things such as separation, loneliness and despair. A true "American Woman" (if you believe the stereotypes).

Only getting worse. I emailed them over 2 weeks ago. My Fiancee received her packet 3 a few days before that, and just finished filling out the papers last night at 1:00 in the morning. She sent them fast mail this morning, and a few hours later I receive the email saying that our case was returned. They also stated that they sent out packet 3 on May 10, and Returned our petition on May 12. They stated that she should not take any action at this time, meantime she mailed packet 3 a few hours before the email.

I just called the case status line, and there was no information regarding our case being returned. I can only hope that it is still on it's way and they will receive it very soon. I aslo hope the Consulate will file the papers returned from packet 3, and when they receive our petition back, they can then process the DS-230. Why does this have to be so difficult.

So we are pretty much in the same situation.
I even received packet 4 and got my Medicals done!

I´m sure your Consulate have sent it back a while ago. I sent NVC an email asking for my petition and they said they fwd it back to USCIS. No further information.

At this point, I´m confident that all 1100 recalled petitions are back at USCIS, so that´s not what you should worry about (in my opinion).

Call your consulate and tell them you had sent p.3 before you knew about your case being recalled. They will work that out. I think they will just keep it there, and hopefully that will even speed up your case once they receive the petition back from USA.

The worst part about it is that we don´t know when they will keep processing our cases. There´s no way to know. I think what we need right now is to hear that the draft was approved. In my opinion again, once they have the new form ready they will keep processing cases.

Geez, what the heck is your problem? Some people actually have emotional bonds with their wives / fiances. My fiance and I have been together for over two years, and now we are going through an excruciating process. I have not been posting a lot on this forum whining about how bad I feel, wah wah wah... but it is not easy.

Try a little sympathy sometimes.

By the way, this is not the place to try voicing your political views, if that is what you are doing.

I doubt they're political views, I think she's just talking 'merde'.

Well, I don't agree with her and I'm an American woman.

The separation is really hard, and the words used to describe it are left to each person. I wouldn't use the word 'torture', but I wouldn't slag someone else off for doing so.

So I should call NVC to check to see if they have received our case back from the consulate??? The number I should call is (603)334-0700???

Lately there has been some pretty ignoratn comments flying around. That is not what this thread or forum is for. It is to ask questions and receive answers and support. I would not even respond to their comments, because that is all they want is attention. JUST IGNORE THEM!!!

Let´s not talk about that anymore... Nevermind.

Anyways, everytime I called NVC they said they don´t keep any records of returned petitions. They just fwd them to the Service Centers.

When I emailed them I was told they received and sent my petition to USCIS.

As nothing makes sense here, I would try anything.
If you do so, plz ask for more news.. we never know when someone will be able to answer our questions.

good luck!

Yeah it really doesn't make sense on why this has to be so difficult for something so simple. No rational about it, there is really no excuse for the immagration process to be so rediculous. Larger things are done with MUCH less involved in this country.

QUOTE(americanwoman @ Jun 6 2006, 08:11 AM)
this is such a load of shite!!!
what is this "killing me", "suffering", "torture" c r a p?
all of you who are suffering, dying or being tortured OFF TO IRAQ RIGHT NOW!
and get yourself a reality check!



wow AmericanWoman I'm very proud of ya that you can handle your petition recall and interview cancellation with such ease and savoir faire, if I'm spelling it correctly. But who made you judge and jury of how other people such react emotionally to this unexpected stress? Or perhaps, as the Brits and Aussies say, you were just taking the pi$$? If that is the case I congratulate you on your absolutely poor taste.

It's ok. I am sure we all have to cope with this in our own way. For me, I get the mad mother bear syndrom (yet i'm a guy) and find out who can be made accountable for something they did to hurt me and mine. Thus why I am persuing legal action which is looking to be over and above just this one IMBRA thing, but to plant the seeds for future reform.

Sometimes others may lash out in a jealous rage, or others may feel overly sensitive when reading the very things they percieve they feel too. While others may cope with playing devils advocate with themselves and externaly in the forum.

This is a very stressful time for all of us, and I think the greatest support we can offer, is to allow us to all cope the way we feel we need to through this, even if that includes allowing for such comments like above on occasion.

Well, this morning I check my case status on the automated system, and said nothing about it being returned. So I just called, and the woman took my information and said to give her a couple minutes while she accesses my case. Two minutes go by and she comes back on the phone, and said her records show that they have received our case and is under review. I asked is this regarding the IMBRA law, and she said yes. I asked her how long, and she told me that she has no timeline at this point, and to call back in 30 days.

At least I know my petition is in their hands, and not lost or misplaced.

Nice..
Who did you call? USCIS or NVC?

I got this from a post on the k3 Forum today:

"Yesterday, I called to see if they had any further information and to express my discontentment about this whole hold up situation. She had very little knowledge at the time. However, she did some investigating and called me back this morning. She told me to forget about K-3 and that the I-129f's aren't going anywhere anytime soon. She flat out told me not to waste anymore time or effort stressing over it. "

What do they mean about FORGET ABOUT IT and IT´S NOT GOING ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON?

Is that the only answer we can get?




PS - THEY are HER CONGRESSWOMAN.

that's good you clarified that "they" was her congress woman. I was a little discouraged after reading the same post. I really doubt congress will know anything before USCIS does, there in the dark as much as we are!!

just goes to show that the only solid fact in this whole thread is nobody has any facts... and the good news about the I-129F draft that should give us temporary relief after the emergency review.

USCIS knows they have to do something and is taking emergency measures.... that's the only news folks!!!

I think you´re right.
They put our situation as an emergency and they do have a draft of the new form.

It looks like they´re getting there, I think.

And remember that USCIS is giving the only solid unbiased information. When there is an update or when there is something to post, they post it.

Congress will be political about everything and start petitions and lead the way for immigrants everywhere. They will be for or against the act however they feel will get them the most votes!! they like to twist things into there perspective in order to get you on there side!!! I hate politicians!!!

Lets just stick to what USCIS is telling us, because they are the ones holding the cards!! no one else!!!

I think (hope) they are moving forward as well.

USCIS has confirmed that they have your application back? That's good news!

By this time they must have all 1100 recalled cases there.
2 weeks ago we got new processing dates 9even if they went back), we got that statement from DoS and last week we got the draft form and USCIS asking for an emergency approve on that.

Nothing new this week yet.
I´ll keep checking this website 100 times a day because something might happen this week.

[sarcasm] Paging americanwoman to the IS YOUR WIFE THE SAME ONCE IN THE USA??? thread. I think you're the "INDEPENDENT FEMINIST" type the OP was refering to. Good luck with that attitude problem. [/sarcasm]

Called USCIS again, and they still don't have my file back. I was told, however, that if thirty days goes by from the date it was sent back by the embassy and there's no sign of it, then they can take investigative action to see what has happened.

<sigh>

I think you should email NVC.

I think they will be able to check if your petition was sent from your Consulate and then fwd from them to VSC.

That´s how I got my answer.
I don´t know for sure, but maybe, the people in charge of answering emails are not the same ones who answer phone calls.

But I´d bet your case is back in Vermont.

I called the number and followed the process this morning just to verify that I was contacting the Vermont Service Center --- When I got to the hold portion just after the full message of case status was given to me --- a recording stated these words --- "You have reached the Vermont Service Center" and then unlike the main 1-800 number on the USCIS website where they give you a waiting time --- I was almost immediately put through to a customer service center representative --- I told her my case number and that it was not outside of the 90 days that it states it should process but was wondering if she could tell me where it might be in the process --- She told me that it was in security checks right now and that if I did not hear anything within 7 to 14 days that I should call back --- now, call me optimistic, or gullible -- but I prefer to have some goodness settle in for the day instead of the comments of deflation that I so often here in response here --- in one of the previous responses, Aussie Wench added a link to a procedure that is from 2003 ... likely that has been altered a bit lately in light of all the immigration changes that occur daily and monthly --- I am holding onto some goodness since all I have had over the past several months is depressing, unencouraging news or lack there of...

So, Thanks again IGOR --- you made another day for me and my hubby!

I did that yesterday after you posted the address. I haven't heard back yet. I wish USCIS had email. I vastly prefer having things in writing; being able to quote those emails when on the phone seems to motivate people to do things at times.

Guys, is not that I don´t believe you. Not at all..
But I tried again and I can´t get through Vermont!!!!!

If anyone else get a hold on them, plz ask about the recalled petitions!




I wish that too, but I think it´s clear why they don´t have it..
Let´s face it. They probably want to get rid of these petitions asap, but it´s a very comfortable situation they are in.

They made a mistake and they don´t tell us anything about it.

Not too bad, right?

It took NVC 5 days to answer my email. Don´t worry. You´ll get an answer soon.
Did you try contacting VSC by phone like Igor did? Maybe they will tell you what they are doing now.

I also used the instructions above, and spoke directly with Vermont. I believe that they are figuring out how they are going to procede with our petitions. Here are my thoughts, and this is only an opinion. I think they are running all of our petitions thru this security check. In the meantime they are developing the new I-129F and Pamphlets, and developing a system they will need to use for this emergency. Once the petitions clear the security checck, and they have the new I-129F and pamphlet developed, things will begin rolling again. The apporvals for these should go quite fast seeing they already approved our petitions once, and they are only approving the newly acquired info. So we just need to keep on them, and hope something happens soon.

It does make sense to me.
I just didn´t think they were actually gonna do any security check.
I thought all they need is a form that mention this IMBRA thing, signed by the applicant. And then, depending on their answer and records, they would keep checking on them.

Vut anyways, since the beggining of this whole story, what I heard was that my petition was sent back for security checks on the petitioner.

I think, and this is also only my opinion, they are only waiting for the form to be approved to send this damn thing and once they get it back, fwd to NVC and then to the Consulates again.

Did you ask them anything about what they are doing right now?



good luck to us!

Can we please please please please please please please please save the critique of American womanhood and/or feminism for the Off Topic forum? I'm an American woman and a feminist and I'm going through the same bureaucratic nonsense as everyone else here. The topical immigration forums (fora?) need to remain supportive for everyone trying to bring a loved one to the U.S., and that kind of talk makes me feel extremely unwelcome, especially when it is said in an overtly hostile context. I realize that there are people here who have sought a partner overseas because of their views about American women as wives, but I am just coming to this thread to check and see what people heard about their petitions today, and really don't want to deal with that stuff right here.

People are tense right now, some might be a bit oversensitive, and some might mouth off a little--that will happen and I think it would be a bit weird if it didn't. But I really don't see why we can't at least cope without resorting to personal attacks based on nationality or gender.

As for my petition, no news, but I think that's to be expected...I'm way behind any of you in line. Will continue to sit tight and remain watchful for any sign of life from the Service Centers.

Tigre

I agree with you.
Her comment was in response of my post, when I said I felt like being tortured since this is really devastating me.

Just for the record, I´m the benneficiary and I´m the guy.
In my case, the american citizen, my fiancée is the woman.
I would never assume that her comment was typical or anything like that.

That issue for me is over.

Let´s keep collecting information regarding IMBRA. That´s what this topic is about.

Tigre, any news?

No news. *sulks*

Maybe its been posted here in this goliath thread, if it has ok, million pardons....


Have you noticed the expiration date on the DRAFT of the new I-129F, it is 6/30/06

When I saw this i had a good feeling because it makes me think that maybe that is the deadline for them to arrive at the final draftof the new form. But who knows how long before they actually release that final draft?

Well, I doubt they would have no draft hanging out there in the wind like dead air. Hopefully the final draft will be ready even before the deadline and that it will be released immediately..

Hopefully they will send it out ASAP. THis is the way I look at it. The longer they take with this, the backlog is just growing and growing. SO I am sure that they want to get this out ASAP so they can get back on track.

I'm in the same boat, the embassy sent it back, they wrote to me that this diplomatic mail takes anywhere from 3-4 weeks But its going to be 4 weeks on Monday!!!!! And NVC still DOES NOT have it

Actually, if you think about it, for a lot of other forms we used expired and they say it's fine, so don't count on that as a deadline.


Those 3 people that reached Vermont throug the phone, what did you do exactly?

I heard from my senator's office today. I had asked for 2 specific questions to be answered - 1) when will I receive a form/questionnaire to provide information on my "possible criminal background" and 2) how will the transfer to CA affect my timing.

The only thing she could tell me was CA said 30-60 more days for processing. When I asked if that included the time to send me the form, etc. she didn't know. They (CA) never mentioned the form and she (from the senator's office) didn't ask. When I explained that this was the most important detail that I wanted answered, she said that they would make another inquiry in 2 weeks.

She seemed to be saying that if they (USCIS/DHS whoever) had a clue, they would have told her. Since all they said is 30-60 more days, that's all she could offer. Not helpful and not encouraging. Hopefully I'll know something more in 2 weeks but I am not counting on it.

She didn't really inquire, from what I gather.

I am not sure if this was posted in this thread or not, and I am sorry if they already did, because I am not going to brows thru 60 pages. This actually gives me hope. It seems that they are requesting the approval of the new form by June 9, 2006. It also sounds like it might be done by e-file. Tell me what you think???


http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/for...i-129f_83-i.pdf

Trying to open the site but USCIS seems to be down.