Should we call tomorrow and ask?

I fear the same thing as you but I thought they had computers there...
Shouldn´t they be looking for petitions submited after March 5th?

I hope they have a system instead of just looking to their desks.

You can never put it much more better than this.With all the advancement in computers i wonder why USCIS have managed to put so many genuine applicants on hold with a huge degree of misinformation.I read somewhere on this forum abt this woman who called one of the service centres and was told K3 is not affected. Somewhere in this forum, it seems to suggest it has been affected.I went through the same plight of misinformation, i had been told earlier my petition will take 2 to 4 weeks to be procceed by the customer service and pegged all my plans on his information, am sat here still waiting.I wonder the location of these call centres, very far from the reality on the ground.

If 11 million illegal immigrants can take on the street and senate is devouting its huge resources in considering their case , what about we the genuine law abiding citizen ?
I can't imagine the number of people who have probably have their relationship wrecked because of this ambiguous and delays in all this visa categories.

My situation is even worse, there are so many important decisions i have to make in life but it seems to have all hindered on if my wife will come,when will she come, will she be granted the visa, can i buy her car now that i have had a good deal from my dealership ? can i book our holiday now that the fares are cheap ? should take up this lucrative foreign assignment for my company then my gut feelings say what if you leave and there is RFE ?

Relationship it self is a full time job but when these added heachaches is added to it then one goes insane.I feel like my life is in the hands of these incompetent federal workers whos sole mission is report to work, get paid at the end of the month and dont care about the need to reach any target or timeline or consider doing over time like most private businesses.I think is about time some of these processing department get privatised or subcontracted
.
Most countries i have seen have the most efficient and simple process in place, with over countless number of visa categories here in US , there is nothing you can expect than delays and cock-ups.

In most countries is all about ticking which visa you want and various visas come under 3 broad categories, Family,student, visitors .Here in America the process is so complicated , send this here, then you get this it goes there no wonder some has become victims to this unscrupulous lawyers who sole mission is to extort as much as they can and deliver nothing.

I hope am not been seen as a nagging desparate husband.
Wish you all the best after all by the time this will be over we would all have become immigration lawyers.

Hope visa journey will start granting a degree program in immigration for waiting spouses and fiances cos the waiting is a full time job !!




You can never put it much more better than this.With all the advancement in computers i wonder why USCIS have managed to put so many genuine applicants on hold with a huge degree of misinformation.I read somewhere on this forum abt this woman who called one of the service centres and was told K3 is not affected. Somewhere in this forum, it seems to suggest it has been affected.I went through the same plight of misinformation, i had been told earlier my petition will take 2 to 4 weeks to be procceed by the customer service and pegged all my plans on his information, am sat here still waiting.I wonder the location of these call centres, very far from the reality on the ground.

If 11 million illegal immigrants can take on the street and senate is devouting its huge resources in considering their case , what about we the genuine law abiding citizen ?
I can't imagine the number of people who have probably have their relationship wrecked because of this ambiguous and delays in all this visa categories.

My situation is even worse, there are so many important decisions i have to make in life but it seems to have all hindered on if my wife will come,when will she come, will she be granted the visa, can i buy her car now that i have had a good deal from my dealership ? can i book our holiday now that the fares are cheap ? should i take up this lucrative foreign assignment for my company then my gut feelings say what if you leave and there is RFE ?

Relationship it self is a full time job but when these added heachaches is added to it then one goes insane.I feel like my life is in the hands of these incompetent federal workers whos sole mission is report to work, get paid at the end of the month and dont care about the need to reach any target or timeline or consider doing over time like most private businesses.I think is about time some of these processing department get privatised or subcontracted
.
Most countries i have seen have the most efficient and simple process in place, with over countless number of visa categories here in US , there is nothing you can expect than delays and cock-ups.

In most countries is all about ticking which visa you want and various visas come under 3 broad categories, Family,student, visitors .Here in America the process is so complicated , send this here, then you get this it goes there no wonder some has become victims to this unscrupulous lawyers who sole mission is to extort as much as they can and deliver nothing.

I hope am not been seen as a nagging desparate husband.
Wish you all the best after all by the time this will be over we would all have become immigration lawyers.

Hope visa journey will start granting a degree program in immigration for waiting spouses and fiances cos the waiting is a full time job !!

Yes this last Monday the 12th. I should have made that more clear.

Thanks.
I don´t knoe if the information you got is accurate, though.

There are people getting messages from USCIS saying a RFE was mailed yesterday.

Also, the public notice said they would start sending RFEs immediately and later, the form would become available.

I think they are already sending it, which would be great...!

Well 7-10 business days is standard response for "immediatly" with most companies in the world, minus the beaureucracy wait period for 30+ days in this case. That doesn't mean some could be sent sooner, and it also doesn't mean some wont be sent until next week sometime or past the 10 day timeline given. There are 10,000 that have to be looked at, and then sent out. They don't have an image scan of each of our 30+ pages of our cases, so they do have to be seen by eyes to ensure they need an RFE (some might have gotten recalled and shouldn't have been, for one example).

My case was just touched and now I know for sure my IMBRA RFE is on the way. Yeah!!!!

"On June 16, 2006, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case. The notice explains in detail what additional material is needed. If you have questions about the notice, what is required, or if 30 days have passed and you have not received the notice. Please contact the service center where you submitted your application during business hours.
"

This is good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got mine to !!

Application Type: I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)

Current Status:

On June 16, 2006, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case. The notice explains in detail what additional material is needed. If you have questions about the notice, what is required, or if 30 days have passed and you have not received the notice. Please contact the service center where you submitted your application during business hours.
They are coming......... Good Luck everyone

Awesome news you two!

All of these RFE's coming from Vermont. What is holding up California? SHEEEEEEEESH Get your heads out already!

Well to be fair it is only 8:30 am in California at the moment, so hopefully they will be sent out later.

It appears the USCIS is sending out the RFE's in chronological order of NOA1 date. I'm only assuming this from the timelines of the people on VJ saying they've received a notice that an RFE was sent. It appears all of these people are in early to mid March.

so where does it leave us? the ones with the recalled petitions??I havent heard anything yet

From what I have read on this forum, it appears there is no chronological method in reference to receipt number or NOA2 in sending out the RFEs. I have not seen any NOA2 petitioners from Vermont that have received an email that informs them that they are being sent an RFE. If I am wrong, please correct me.

I assume it really depends on where the petition is and whether or not the USCIS actually has it.

lewis go to the 84 of this thread there were just two vj members who have offcially obtained the email requesting for further evidences today... COME ON CALIFORNIA WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPP grrr

lewis go to the 84 of this thread there were just two vj members who have offcially obtained the email requesting for further evidences today... COME ON CALIFORNIA WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPP grrr

just making sure!
New I-129f has only 3 pages to fill out? Correct.???

Just printing them off now to fill them in.

Thanks!!

Thanks, I realize the RFEs are coming I was just saying that it does not appear that there is a chronological method in respect to NOA2 dates in dealing with the process so far. I looked at the timelines of the two that had the emails sent and there were no NOA2 dates on their timelines. Also, the NOA1 dates of the ones that received email notices were not consecutive days:

03/08, 03/25

Unless people have not updated their timelines, I have not seen any NOA2 petitioners from Vermont that have received an email that informs them that they are being sent an RFE. I hope I am mistaken.

CORRECT !!!

Here it's full, 9 pages, page 1-6 >> Instructions, page 7-9 >> I-129F Form
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/for...iles/I-129F.pdf

yeah ... lets hope for the best... hopefully all our RFEs will arrive sooner than later...

Maybe for those of us who already have a NOA2, the RFE doesn't show up in the system/email?

Just trying to stay positive here...

It definitely helps to be positive and to share as much info as we can!





I called the USCIS today and asked about the above detail, "is there a problem with the email system because it recognizes the NOA2 as already approved". I made a very clear point to her that the USCIS has not at any time communicated to me that my petition was "recalled". The person I had on the line could not explain any of it. She just said wait 2-3 weeks.

I'm staying positive also and knowing all the details about this process can help all of us.

As I said I was referring to the NOA1 date. The majority of the RFE's will be sent to individuals who have yet to receive an NOA2. Only 1,100 out of the 10,000 + affected petitions had received an NOA2 (~10%).

Other then the phone call from the Moscow Embassy to tell us our application was being returned and our interview cancelled we haven't heard anything from USCIS. Additionally our case hasn't been touched since 05/01/06. Should we be worried USCIS hasn't recieved the returned application? Any suggestions on what we should do?

03/25/06 129F Application Sent
04/06/06 NOA1
04/12/06 NOA2 Approval
05/06/06 Interview schduled for 06/29/06
05/23/06 Call from Moscow Embassy - Application returned and interview cancelled

Call this number and ask them to confirm your application was recieved at the Vermont Service Center.

1-800-375-5283
press 1 pause 2 pause 6 pause 1
Enter receipt #
press 3 pause 2 pause 1

I don´t know what´s going on.
Forgive me if I think we live in a fair world.
I have my NOA2, my p.3, my p.4, my interview date and I think they should update my status. All of us we recalled petitions should be treated with respect because people made a mistake with our case.
My lawyer doesn´t say anything about it and USCIS does not seem to care.

It could take another month, which it would be fine if I was told about it, so come on.. all I´m asking for is an update.

How did you know that status ..is it online or in email ?

I check up on this thread from time to time to see how you all are doing.

I have to say - for the most part you are a resourceful and efficient group! And it tickles me to see people HAPPY to be getting RFE's!!! LOL!!! For the length of my membership here (Dec 04) I've mostly just seen upset over RFE's. But we all know it's progress for you guys, and I'm sooooooooooooooooo glad to see this!

Am I reading correctly - is the new I-129F approved and up and running?

Online, once you get our NOA1 you can register online and check your progress.

Yup its up and ready!

Kewl!!

It's tough on us old-timers trying to keep up!!!!

All it said was that the application was approved. When I talked to a representative she said she couldn't tell me if it was recieved or not. She admitted they couldn't tell me whether it was lost in the mail or ever even sent by the embassy. These people are horrible!!!!!

My guess is the problem with our recalled VISA's is the government's new problem dealing with a recall. Who how and where are oour recalled cases sent? How do we know they aren't on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic or Pacific right now???????

good news everyone!!

I just received an email saying that the RFE is on the way to me...yeah!!! Our case was put into the system on Apr 24. So maybe VSC is sending out the RFEs to everyone regardless the NOA1 receipt date.

Yes, they don't have a clue. I guess I got lucky and talked to someone who knew what they were doing. I had to call multiple times to find out they actually have my petition. It is possibly the worst customer service experience I have ever had besides the MVA!

I also emailed my consulate and the NVC and asked them about it. Once I knew it was not in their hands and had emails stating the consulate or NVC did not have it, I kept calling the USCIS and let them know it had to be there and it was found.

Well I know mine is not on a ship because Vermont confirmed on the phone that they received my petition on June 1st. But I have not been able to call and ask if my case has been assigned to an agent to send out the RFE. Who the heck knows whats going on, and I was hoping the electronic system would update....but I guess its too much too ask.

It appears that way so far.

I will do the same if I have to call 100 times (and I will call that many times). Any tips??

Do the emails first, that way you know the NVC and consulate do not have it. Once you know this just let the USCIS know this and insist they check for your petition. I'm lucky I'm on vacation now and I had time to do it. The emails can be sent at any time, just make sure you include your receipt number and specifically ask where your petition is and/or where it was sent. Both emails are similar depending on your case.

Consulate example for petitions with NOA2:

To whom it may concern:

case id#
receipt#

My name is xxxxxx and my fiancee's name is xxxxxx. I received a notice from the xxxxxx consulate on xxxx informing us that our case was ready to be further processed. On xxxxx someone at the consulate called my fiancee and said our case was being sent back to the USCIS. I realize all K1 cases after March 6th have been sent back at this point due to IMBRA. I fall into the category of the applicant that will receive an "immediate" RFE. My questions are specific to the consulate:

Why was I not informed by letter, email or phone by anyone at the consulate that my case was being sent back?

Will my case still be expedited at the consulate due to my petition already being approved on xxxx, 2006?

I look forward to a clear and concise response.

Thank you,





NVC template:

To whom it may concern:

My name is xxxx and my fiancee's name is xxxxxxxx. My fiancee received a call from thexxxx embassy last week informing her that our approved I129F petition was being sent back for further review to the USCIS through the NVC. Our receipt number is xxxxxxxx. I realize that this may be part of a new process in dealing with the new IMBRA law.

Does the NVC have my petition at this point?

Has my petition been sent to the USCIS?

What is the specific date the petition was sent back?

I ask these questions because I have received no clear answers from the
customer service number offered by the USCIS.

Sincerely,


NVC email: NVCInquiry@state.gov

Lewis, you're a King!!

Thanks. I guess it's time for the rest of us to wait and see who the lucky (considering everything maybe not so much) person who gets the first RFE.

Hope to see a California/Texas RFE soon!

Saw online that they are sending my RFE. And yes, I don't have NOA2 yet. May 4th is my NOA1 date.

What service center are you?

I think we might have people receiving RFEs either tomorrow or monday, but definitely next week.
As the only people who got an email stating that RFE is on the way never got their NOA2, we need to wait and make sure this is actually about IMBRA.. I´m pretty sure it is, but at this time I don´t question anything...

Hey guys,

I actually agree I dont see any order they send the RFE's out. Even the approvals come out in no special order at all.

Greets ISabel

Hi all! I am in the airport in Tokyo waiting for my next airplane. Luz and I had a GREAT time!!
I got the email on the 14th saying my case was recieved and they have been touching me every day!!! One on the 14, 15, 16 and again today! I hope this means that I will get my RFE soon. It would be so good to have it waiting for me when I get home.

Posted this in part to another thread but wanted to post it here as well.

Processing of petitions IMHO will not change from the service centers regular system of processing.

Any petitions submitted on or after March 6 will receive an RFE in order for the originally submitted petitions to be compliant with the IMBRA. This is going to vary between the service centers as VSC despite all the recalled petitions and their normal work load (now including backlog) have always been notably more efficient. What is happening right now is not a surprise. The normal processing of each petition will not then occur until they are up to processing petitions with the date of receipt on each petition.

Presently
CSC is showing as processing petitions with a receipt date of Feb 3 (obviously still processing cases pre IMBRA)
VSC is showing as processing petitions with a receipt date of March 6

So therefore eg a petition with a receipt date of even say May 29 will be sent an RFE so that the petition is compliant with the IMBRA but that petition will not continue with processing until they are processing petitions with a receipt date of May 29. All will be as usual. RFE's will be sent out in mass but how your petition is processed will still be dependant on the receipt date not on when you get and return the RFE.

As the recalled petitions (primarily from VSC) have already been approved they will be sent an RFE just like any other to bring the originally submitted petition up to compliance but they will not IMO have to wait for the processing date to reach their original receipt date as in all other aspects they have already been processed. Except those that will need further processing due to criminal history and/or filing of multiple petitions. Petitions will then be forwarded again to Consulates via NVC.

It's great to see that things are moving again, even if its not as fast as you all would hope for.

All the best everyone.

Lorelle

What cheerful tidings to start the morning, Lorelle.

What has CSC been doing, I ask myself. They have had at least six weeks of this "stoppage" to catch up and organize themselves -- make preparations for this new review. But you say they are still stuck back in the pre-IMBRA days of Feb 3rd!! This entire Nebraska/CSC transfer stuff on top of all else has me really bummed.

They are supposed to be gearing up big time to get these out next week. But that doesn't mean many of us will see anything for a few weeks as they process all of these things. As far as I know nothing is going in any specific order anymore they are just trying to process everything as fast as possible to get through this mess.

As a matter of fact, oficialy I haven't recieved any notification that I have been effected at all by this either. However, due to the time when my NOA1 was, we fall well passed the march 6th "Deadline", so it is disconcerting to say the least when no one is hearing anything, AND the philippines embassy operator still thinks it's at the embassy. My greatest fear is they lose it and I have to start all over again.

Is there a way to get them to physicaly confirm it's still there rather than checking an easily flawed catalog?

Let's not be overly pessimistic here people. CSC has been on February 3 for 2.5 months now. My bet is that it's going to go through a jump again once it gets its procedure sorted out. Also, because some people have gotten NOA2s from before March from CSC, so I don't think Feb 3d is an accurate date.