CassandraHaydar
Jun 26 2008, 10:50 AM
Did I post this poll right? Just curious, folks.
charles!
Jun 26 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE(CassandraHaydar @ Jun 26 2008, 10:50 AM)

Did I post this poll right? Just curious, folks.
not bad, but as i understand it one does not convert to islam, one reverts to islam, with everyone being born a muslim and so on.
just_Jackie
Jun 26 2008, 11:38 AM
Convert-revert.....just as long as ya get there
I accepted Islam in 2002 after reading so much about it after 9/11. I studied on my own from Sept 2001 til May 5 2002. No man involved at that point. He came into the picture a few months after shahada.
Jackie
Alhamdulillah
Jun 26 2008, 11:41 AM
I don't understand how someone can convert to any religion for another person. That really doesn't make sense to me. Either you believe in that religion and personally feel connected to God through it or you don't..... religion is for God not for another person.
mohamed N melinda
Jun 26 2008, 11:42 AM
Nagishkaw
Jun 26 2008, 11:43 AM
Nope.
mohamed N melinda
Jun 26 2008, 11:43 AM
QUOTE(just_Jackie @ Jun 26 2008, 12:38 PM)

Convert-revert.....just as long as ya get there
I accepted Islam in 2002 after reading so much about it after 9/11. I studied on my own from Sept 2001 til May 5 2002. No man involved at that point. He came into the picture a few months after shahada.
Jackie
MASHAALLAH
amal
Jun 26 2008, 12:02 PM
I knew about Islam but became interested after 9/11 also. I didn't know where to go or what to do so I didn't really pursue it. I met hubby and we discussed it at great lengths. The more I learned about it, the more I thought it sounded so much more like the way I believed and brought its followers soooo much closer to God than I felt. My main set-back was my belief in Jesus(pbuh). It took me a long time to realize that I didn't lose my belief in him but gained a belief that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) (the same person that was spoken of in the Bible that would bring forth the message again) also brought the message ..... It was through many discussions with our very own Jackie that helped me realize that Islam was the place for me. I will forever be thankful to her for helping me find my way.
Thank you Jackie. I love ya girl

amal
just_Jackie
Jun 26 2008, 12:11 PM
oh amal...you were already there you just needed a sister to talk with you. It was my honor to answer your questions as it was my pleasure to nudge you towards noor to say your shahada with him. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall that night! hehe I bet he about fell over.
Jackie
ME~n~HIM
Jun 26 2008, 12:15 PM
I had a great interest in Islam for many years before I ever met my husband. I had read several books, listened to Qu'ran on cd, had many Muslim friends. He never asked me to nor did he mind if I chose not to. It was last year during an online course w/ Sunnipath that I decided the time was right and as one friend asked me *What are you waiting for?*.
There's a rather comical story that goes along w/ how I said my shahada, but that's too involved to type here!
amal
Jun 26 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(just_Jackie @ Jun 26 2008, 12:11 PM)

oh amal...you were already there you just needed a sister to talk with you. It was my honor to answer your questions as it was my pleasure to nudge you towards noor to say your shahada with him. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall that night! hehe I bet he about fell over.
Jackie

thank god we were already laying down when I told him I wanted to say Shahada. The first thing he did was ask if I was sure coz it was a big step and he didn't want me to do it coz of him. He actually told me that it wasn't something I should just jump in to. That is when I told him that Jax and I had talked a whole lot over quite a long time span about it and I knew it was time and that the thing I wanted most was for my husband to be the one person to witness it. I think he shed a coupla tears that night coz he had no idea.
mohamed N melinda
Jun 26 2008, 12:19 PM
MashaAllah your stories really make me so happy . Allah bless you all sisters
just_Jackie
Jun 26 2008, 12:19 PM

awwwww I love shahada stories.
j
if anyone knows of someone that is sooooooooo close---listen to them and encourage them. before it is too late.
Henia
Jun 26 2008, 12:58 PM
I was already Muslim when we married. But if I was not, I would not have converting only cos he told me to!
Olivia*
Jun 26 2008, 02:20 PM
I've studied and read a lot about all the religions but I don't think I'll be converting or reverting to any of them any time soon, but in the unlikely chance that I did do this then please know that it was out of the sincerity of my heart and not for any other reason.
Ganja_Girl
Jun 26 2008, 02:26 PM
No, I am not religious even though I was raised with it never made sense to me.
Jenn!
Jun 26 2008, 02:28 PM
QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 26 2008, 03:26 PM)

No, I am not religious even though I was raised with it never made sense to me.

Were you raised Catholic, GG?
(just curious)
lion_lioness
Jun 26 2008, 04:02 PM
I was already a revert when I met my husband, however, I would NOT have reverted just for his sake. I don't believe anyone should do so unless its from their heart. Years ago, I dated someone of the Jewish faith and the time considered myself a 'spiritualist,' with no affiliation to any denomination. We talked about children and I agreed to raise them in his faith, but that I would not convert.
When it comes to children, I think some form of faith is a good thing. Praise God we are both believers and plan to raise children accordingly. It should be done from the heart though, not for another person.
ETA: This is just my opinion though. Also, being exposed and learning more because of you SO and then reverting isn't a bad thing either. Again, as long as its from your heart.
~*Dorothy*~
Jun 26 2008, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Jun 26 2008, 03:28 PM)

QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 26 2008, 03:26 PM)

No, I am not religious even though I was raised with it never made sense to me.

Were you raised Catholic, GG?
(just curious)
Funny that you mention being Catholic - I was raised Catholic and growing up in Poland I was pretty active in church and all but once I got here and the more I thought about religion and aspect of it as Ganja said it just lost the connection and have been non-practicing for the past 18 years...
julianna
Jun 26 2008, 05:01 PM
Nope!
QUOTE(amal @ Jun 26 2008, 12:02 PM)

I knew about Islam but became interested after 9/11 also. I didn't know where to go or what to do so I didn't really pursue it. I met hubby and we discussed it at great lengths. The more I learned about it, the more I thought it sounded so much more like the way I believed and brought its followers soooo much closer to God than I felt. My main set-back was my belief in Jesus(pbuh).
It took me a long time to realize that I didn't lose my belief in him but gained a belief that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) (the same person that was spoken of in the Bible that would bring forth the message again) also brought the message ..... It was through many discussions with our very own Jackie that helped me realize that Islam was the place for me. I will forever be thankful to her for helping me find my way.
Thank you Jackie. I love ya girl

amal

Mohammed is not in the Bible. if you mean the voice in the desert in Isaiah, that is the spirit of Elijah, which was fulfilled by John the Baptist explicitly, and also mentioned at that point that he was fulfilling the voice in the desert. That is a common misuse of teh verse by removing it from the context. It is that the spirit of Elijah will come to declare the coming of the Messiah if you actually read it in context, which is what John the Baptist did-- the voice in the desert, crying, prepare the way for the L-rd. Jews would just disagree it has been fulfilled, but it is still Elijah or the spirit of Elijah.
ZeeNusah
Jun 26 2008, 05:54 PM
We are both Muslim, but there is no way I would change my religion to please my SO.
Nagishkaw
Jun 26 2008, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(julianna @ Jun 26 2008, 05:01 PM)

Nope!
QUOTE(amal @ Jun 26 2008, 12:02 PM)

I knew about Islam but became interested after 9/11 also. I didn't know where to go or what to do so I didn't really pursue it. I met hubby and we discussed it at great lengths. The more I learned about it, the more I thought it sounded so much more like the way I believed and brought its followers soooo much closer to God than I felt. My main set-back was my belief in Jesus(pbuh).
It took me a long time to realize that I didn't lose my belief in him but gained a belief that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) (the same person that was spoken of in the Bible that would bring forth the message again) also brought the message ..... It was through many discussions with our very own Jackie that helped me realize that Islam was the place for me. I will forever be thankful to her for helping me find my way.
Thank you Jackie. I love ya girl

amal

Mohammed is not in the Bible. if you mean the voice in the desert in Isaiah, that is the spirit of Elijah, which was fulfilled by John the Baptist explicitly, and also mentioned at that point that he was fulfilling the voice in the desert. That is a common misuse of teh verse by removing it from the context. It is that the spirit of Elijah will come to declare the coming of the Messiah if you actually read it in context, which is what John the Baptist did-- the voice in the desert, crying, prepare the way for the L-rd. Jews would just disagree it has been fulfilled, but it is still Elijah or the spirit of Elijah.
Julianna, thank you for this clarification. I wanted to post what you said, but I held back because I did not want to come across as offensive, which you did not only because you explain better than I .
Alhamdulillah
Jun 26 2008, 06:06 PM
Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wa salaam is in the bible. You may disagree but that's my belief and others. Maybe she's talking about the Comforter in John 14.
♥JP♥
Jun 26 2008, 06:07 PM
oh boy....
charles!
Jun 26 2008, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 06:07 PM)

oh boy....
have some
mohamed N melinda
Jun 26 2008, 06:15 PM
here we go again
sarahaziz
Jun 26 2008, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(Alhamdulillah @ Jun 26 2008, 12:41 PM)

I don't understand how someone can convert to any religion for another person. That really doesn't make sense to me. Either you believe in that religion and personally feel connected to God through it or you don't..... religion is for God not for another person.

My family is muslim but my mother and I and some of her family have converted to the christian faith back home in Algeria. Missionaries were there in the dark times and led us to a new hope. My spouse is "muslim" but he is open to christianity. My baby goes to church with me

talk about a great man. I wouldn't revert to Islam again because I didn't feel it historically came together in my mind and I'm not drawn as I am to Christianity and Jesus Christ. I'm a very happy and fulfilled individual now life just gets better and better even though there are ups and downs. I do respect all Muslims because that's my brothers and sisters.
♥JP♥
Jun 26 2008, 06:19 PM
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jun 26 2008, 04:12 PM)

QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 06:07 PM)

oh boy....
have some

Or we can just make this easy.....
Christians believe Mohammed
was not mentioned in the bible...
Muslims believe Mohammed
was mentioned in the bible.....
END OF STORY...agree to disagree

Because frankly no one here is going to be able to convince anyone otherwise.
ZeeNusah
Jun 26 2008, 06:24 PM
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 07:19 PM)

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jun 26 2008, 04:12 PM)

QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 06:07 PM)

oh boy....
have some
Or we can just make this easy.....
Christians believe Mohammed
was not mentioned in the bible...
Muslims believe Mohammed
was mentioned in the bible.....
END OF STORY...agree to disagree

Because frankly no one here is going to be able to convince anyone otherwise.
nu7015
Jun 26 2008, 06:35 PM
I made it very clear from the beginning how important my religion was to me and that I would not be considering changing. We had many and continue to have many discussions about the similarities and differences between our religions. We've had some pretty heated discussions but we both highly respect each other's religion. The more we talk about it, the more similarities we see than differences. He doesn't practice Islam but he talks about wanting to. I practice (to the best of my abilitiy-there's lots of room for improvement

) my religion and am a teacher each week and he supports me in that.
I believe that every religion is the same at the core. Each one is trying to help humans be the best that they can be through love and forgiveness. Each one just goes about it a little differently.
julianna
Jun 26 2008, 07:14 PM
QUOTE(Alhamdulillah @ Jun 26 2008, 06:06 PM)

Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wa salaam is in the bible. You may disagree but that's my belief and others. Maybe she's talking about the Comforter in John 14.
The Comforter is the Ruach HaKodesh: JOHN 14:25, 26: "All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
What JP said is correct though-- Muslims have decided Mohammed is in the Bible and Christians and Jews believe otherwise. We're definately not going to ever agree on this.
Ganja_Girl
Jun 26 2008, 08:40 PM
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, hated it the entire time. lol My Grandmother would go crazy when I told her I didn't really believe, she would immediately run and light candles, why this makes any difference, I have no clue. My mother brings the priest to the house, the father is from India, a cute old man who’s English needs much improving, I love him, but I still don’t really believe. He always says, Sherry I pray for you to come back to your faith. I remember one time he came to the house to throw holy water all over the place, I am thinking I sure hope this stuff doesn’t start to burn me. lol
Jenn!
Jun 27 2008, 10:30 AM
QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 26 2008, 09:40 PM)

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, hated it the entire time. lol My Grandmother would go crazy when I told her I didn't really believe, she would immediately run and light candles, why this makes any difference, I have no clue. My mother brings the priest to the house, the father is from India, a cute old man who's English needs much improving, I love him, but I still don't really believe. He always says, Sherry I pray for you to come back to your faith. I remember one time he came to the house to throw holy water all over the place, I am thinking I sure hope this stuff doesn't start to burn me. lol

I just had a feeling you were raised Catholic. Me too, Catholic elementary school as well. Look at us now!
Ganja_Girl
Jun 27 2008, 10:38 AM
QUOTE
I just had a feeling you were raised Catholic. Me too, Catholic elementary school as well. Look at us now!
Do you still have the damn guilt, why do Catholics always have that guilty feeling
Rajaa_Reda
Jun 27 2008, 10:47 AM
I was in the Army for 11 yrs and was in Intel... studied the religion and the people and it all just clicked (but was married to a Christian man). The marriage was very difficult and long story short. I knew my huband before my shahada but when I came home and told him on line he said he knew I was the girl for him.... we fell in love shortly afterward Alihamdolilah.
morocco4ever
Jun 27 2008, 10:49 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Jun 27 2008, 11:30 AM)

QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 26 2008, 09:40 PM)

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, hated it the entire time. lol My Grandmother would go crazy when I told her I didn't really believe, she would immediately run and light candles, why this makes any difference, I have no clue. My mother brings the priest to the house, the father is from India, a cute old man who's English needs much improving, I love him, but I still don't really believe. He always says, Sherry I pray for you to come back to your faith. I remember one time he came to the house to throw holy water all over the place, I am thinking I sure hope this stuff doesn't start to burn me. lol

I just had a feeling you were raised Catholic. Me too, Catholic elementary school as well. Look at us now!

You 2 are such evil sinners!!
Just curious, what religion doesn't pressure you to stay with them through threats?
I think everyone has a right to follow their heart. But to convert just to make their SO happy is wrong wrong wrong. Keep in mind (if you believe in God) that God/Allah knows your heart. So if you convert/revert for someone other than your own beliefs then it is totally wasted.
mybackpages
Jun 27 2008, 10:57 AM
QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 27 2008, 10:38 AM)

QUOTE
I just had a feeling you were raised Catholic. Me too, Catholic elementary school as well. Look at us now!
Do you still have the damn guilt, why do Catholics always have that guilty feeling
Once Catholic always Catholic. It's as if we have a secret language.
~*Dorothy*~
Jun 27 2008, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(mybackpages @ Jun 27 2008, 11:57 AM)

QUOTE(Ganja_Girl @ Jun 27 2008, 10:38 AM)

QUOTE
I just had a feeling you were raised Catholic. Me too, Catholic elementary school as well. Look at us now!
Do you still have the damn guilt, why do Catholics always have that guilty feeling
Once Catholic always Catholic. It's as if we have a secret language.

And I thought it was only me trying to escape the invisible wall of guilt... I feel much better now.
Welshcookie
Jun 27 2008, 02:05 PM
Interesting thread....I have often wondered about this (but wasn't going to ask cos I didn't think it was place to) thanks for all your answers
Alhamdulillah
Jun 27 2008, 09:20 PM
QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 06:19 PM)

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Jun 26 2008, 04:12 PM)

QUOTE(♥JP♥ @ Jun 26 2008, 06:07 PM)

oh boy....
have some

Or we can just make this easy.....
Christians believe Mohammed
was not mentioned in the bible...
Muslims believe Mohammed
was mentioned in the bible.....
END OF STORY...agree to disagree

Because frankly no one here is going to be able to convince anyone otherwise.
That's basically what I was trying to say. Thanks
Amina_KSA
Jun 27 2008, 10:03 PM
Just popping in...
I converted/reverted when I was a freshman in college (2000) after a literature class sparked my interest...I was raised catholic although my family is not very religious. So, I was already a Muslim long before I met my DH. As was already mentioned in this thread, he (and I) both believes no one should ever convert to a religion unless they truly believe in that religion, he felt if he a married a non-Muslim she would only convert for him which is a terrible reason to convert.
Anyway, alhamdulilah..that's my story.
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