Hi friends,..!!!!

Just have question about check list for I-864 and DS-230,..??

I completed both forms and I am ready to mail it to NVC,...just want yours comments about my check list,...are they completed,..????

There is check list for I-864:

Cover letter
Cover sheet with barcode
Form I-864
2007 Federal Tax Return(recent year)
Employment Letter
Pay stubs for the most recent months
Proof or citizenship
Form I-864A (my father is going to be my co-sponsor(because I alone dont meet poverty guidelines) from household member,we live together) 2007 Federal Tax Return(recent year) (for my father)
Employment Letter (for my father)
Pay stubs for the most recent months (for my father)
Proof or citizenship (for my father)

There is check list for DS-230

Cover letter
Cover sheet with barcode
Two Passport Size Photographs Of Beneficary(NVC case number,date of birth and full name of beneficary written on back of each picture)
DS-230 part I completed and signed by beneficiary
DS-230 part II completed by beneficiary and unsigned,as of yet,per instructions
Original Birth Certificate Of Beneficiary and photocopy (with translation)
Photocopy of the Biographic Data Page of Beneficiary's passport
Our Original Marriage Certificate and photocopy (with translation)
Original Office Police Certificate for Beneficiary (with translation)

What do you think about mine documents(check list) for forms I-864 and DS-230,..Is this enough documents with those forms,..??Are they completed???? Thanks for yours comments any comment is welcome,.....good luck to you all,..!!!!!!

You need to get copy of completed federal tax returns with all supporting schedules and W-2s for the 3 most recent tax years for you and your father. Make sure to sign copy of tax returns.

Additionally, you may also want to request copy of federal transcript. You can order via phone 24x7 and they will arrive in few days. Although this is just extra info in addition to copies of tax returns. How to obtain transcript is described in step by step on wiki page http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/...28Before_NVC.29

You seem to have it all completed. Just don't forget to send an extra photocopy of each document along with originals and keep another extra copy with you.

Thanks guys for replays,...

but do I have to submit for recent second and third year,..?? I just submit for the most recent year for 2007,and it is optional in I-864 to send them for second and third year,..what do you think are they going to send me RFE if I dont send them for the recen second and third year(2006 and 2005)????

The guides state that we have to submit the last 3 years tax returns, but I've read in some posts that they are asking just for 2007. I'm taking the last 3 tax returns, I think it safer.

Oh well, in fact to NVC you must submit the last 3 years tax returns.

I've read that some people was taking only 2007 tax return to the interview, but to NVC the last 3 tax returns must be sent.

Thanks guys and good luck to you all on yours cases!!!!!
I just called NVC and spoke with one lady operator and ask her about Federal tax returns ,..She said that they need just tax returs for recent 2007 year,..and that is second and third year optional,....
I am going right now to send my completed I-864 package to NVC,...and cross my fingers and pray that everything will be allright,...GOOD LUCK TO YOU GUYS AGAIN,..

Cao, i mi smo na istom mjestu gdje i ti. Znaci prikupljamo dokumenta za I864 I DS-230. Primjetila sam da nisi navela dokumenat koji je za njih jako vazan a to je court and prison records. Ovaj dokumenat se vadi naravno u sudu. Trazis od njih da ti izdaju dokumenat koji potvrdjuje da se protiv tebe ne vodi nikakav krivicni postupak.
Zelimo ti puno srece!!!

Cao i vama,....i zelim puno srece,.... Mislis za dokumenat za DS-230,..???
jesam izvadio sam dokumenat taj i prevod imam i sve kompletirano,...to je ovaj dokument Original Office Police Certificate for Beneficiary (with translation) i u njemu pise da nema krivicni gonjenja i sve dalje,....

A sta mislis o ovim taxama treba li za sve tri godine ili samo za 2007???,..ja sam sad zvao NVC i zena mi kaze da netreba za sve tri godine samo za 2007,...ja idem da posaljem samo za 2007 pa sta bog da,...

Da, da mislim na DS-230 dokumenta. U redu je to sto si izvadio taj dokumenat iz policije na kome pise da se ne vodi postupak protiv tebe. To inace pise na svakom policijskom certifikatu. Ali ja ti samo naglasavam da ti treba i iz suda ovjeren dokumenat. Znaci trebaju ti dva dokumenta sto se tice ne kaznjavanja. Licno sam ih zvala i pitala prosle sedmice i oni su mi to potvrdili. Sto se takse tice, zaista nisam sigurna. Jer tamo pise da je obavezna taksa za prethodnu godinu, tj. 2007-mu. A 2006 i 2005 su optional. Mislim da nisu obavezne. Ja bih ti predlozila da ih sada nazoves i pitas da li ti treba court and prison records, i vidi sta ce ti reci. Kao sto sam vec rekla, prosli petak kada sam ih zvala, rekli su mi da je taj dokumenat obavezan. Javi nam sta si rijesio po top pitanju. Veliki pozdrav!!!

O hvala na naglasavanju za taj dokumenat nazvacu ih i pitati kako i sta ide,....i naravno javicu vam sta su mi rekli,...Hvala opet cujemo se,...

Evo samo da vam javim mirjana i veljko da sad sam upravo zvao NVC i pricao sa operatorom i pitao ih za court and prison records i rekao sam da imam policijski sertifikat i da je cist,..i rekla mi je da samo osobe koje su bile osudjivane ili bile na sudu da trebaju taj dokument a osobe koje nikada nisu osudjivane da netrebaju taj dokument(a naravno policijski sertifikat potvrdjuje dali je osoba osudjivana i ima li ikakav postupak protiv te osobe)ako je sertifikat cist i ako pise da protiv osobe nema nikakvih tereta netreba dokument iz suda,...
Pozdrav i mnogo srece za vas slucaj,....

Drago nam je da su ti to razjasnili. Meni onda zaista nije jasno zasto su nama rekli suprotno. Sada se pitam da to zavisi od operatora do operatora. Ali dobro sta je tu je. Mi smo izvadili i ovaj iz suda, pa sta bude. E da jos nesto sam htjela da ti kazem. Sto mi bas i nije jasno. Zvala sam NVC dva puta prosle sedmice i izmedju ostalog dva puta sam postavila pitanje, da li trebamo prevoditi DS-230 dokumente. I oba puta, od dva razlicita operatora sam dobila isti odgovor, NE TREBA. Pa mi nije jasno kako ce oni znati sta onda pise na ovim dokumentima. Jedino postoji mogucnost da imaju tamo nekoga ko govori nas jezik. Zaista mi nista drugo ne pada na pamet. Tacnije rekli su mi, da ako ce moj muz obavljati razgovor u drzavi u kojoj trenutno zivi, onda ne treba prevod. Sta su tebi rekli za prevod? I da li si uopste pitao da li da prevodis dokumenta ili ne? I na kraju da te pitamo, odakle ste ti i tvoja supruga? Pozdrav od nas!!!

Sto se tice ovoga dokumenta za ds-230 u krajnjem slucaju poslace mi da mi fali taj dokument a danas cu reci supruzi da ide da ga izvadi pa da mi ga fakxa ili posalje mailom,...inace za prevode nisam ni pitao samo sam ih poslao jednoj zeni koja se inace bavi tim prevodjenjem i ima firmu za to bas i preveo sam sve dokumente u svakom slucaju bolje da ih prevedem,..mozete i vi da ih prevedete da posle nebiste imali frke oko toga ko zna sta im moze pasti napamet,....
A inace ja sam iz bosne a moja supruga je iz srbije,....pozdrav za sada od mene cujemo se posle,....ako bude bilo kakvih pitanja sugestija komentara slobodno me kontaktirajte oko pomoci na usluzi sam koliko mogu da pomognem a nadam se da se mogu i osloniti na vasu pomoc ako negdje zapne,..hehe pozdrav cujemo se

Naravno, na nas uvjek mozete da razunate. Ako mozemo da budemo od neke pomoci slobodno se javite. Hvala na lijepom, prijatnom i na kraju krajeva korisnom razgovoru. Saljemo vam puno pozdrava i zelimo mnogo srece!!!

Takodje puno pozdrava i mnogo mnogo mnogo srece na vasem slucaju i na svim slucajevima koji su ovdje,..nista cujemo se takodje ako ista zatreba tu smo da se pomazemo i da sto prije rijesimo nase slucajeve,..ja sam sad bas dosao iz poste poslao sam AOS I-864 sa svim dokumentima,..a sutra cu poslati kompletiranu formu DS-230 takodje sa svim dokumentima,.. pa cemo vidjeti sta dalje,...fingers crossed ehhehe cujemo se caos,..!!!!

Cheers and gm all-

Just an FYI - the tax returns seem to be somewhat of who you get and what they want - we had all paperword sent to lawyer (yes originals) and yep got an RFE for them wanting originals lol - grrrrr- lawyer sent but if you want to fight it takes a supervisor 7-14 biz days to review so will just go and reorder all originals.

With regard to the Federal Returns, we put down two years, they want all three - but just tax transcript on last year apparently - I guess - anyways sending all to them. Just a heads up and good luck to all-

Actually the guide states that they only want the last year sent in with the I-864, the other 2 years are optional - if you think it will help to show your steady income and ability to support the immigrant then by all means you should send all three, however to state that the guide indicates you should send three years is not accurate. I think it's important to back up information such as this with links to official information. I'm not trying to be rude or anything however when information is presented as fact it can lead a lot of people down the wrong path. Please see:

(i) Documentation .

(1) Federal Tax Returns. Each sponsor must submit either a transcript or a copy of his or her most recent US. Federal individual income tax return (Form 1040, 1040A or 1040EZ), including all Schedules filed with the IRS. If the sponsor submits a copy of the tax return, he or she must also include copies of any and all IRS Forms W-2 and 1099 that reflect income used to qualify. The second note under paragraph 20.5(e)(2) provides guidance regarding what to do if a W-2 or 1099 is missing. Note, however, that it is not necessary to s ubmit the Forms W-2 or 1099 if a transcript, rather than a copy, of the tax return is submitted. State or foreign income tax returns are not acceptable; if submitted, they must be returned to the intending immigrant.

The sponsor must submit with the Form I-864 the sponsor’s U.S. Federal income tax return for the most recent tax year (that is, the completed tax year immediately preceding the date the sponsor signs the Form I-864). USCIS may generally expect a sponsor, after April 15 of any given year (or April 16 or 17, in a year in which April 15 is on a Saturday or Sunday), to have completed his or her tax return for the previous year. If the sponsor requested an extension, the sponsor should provide proof of filing fo r the extension. If the sponsor did not file a tax return, the sponsor must prove that he or she was not required to file. If a sponsor should have filed, the sponsor must file retroactively and provide proof of filing. Note that U.S. citizens generally have an obligation to file a tax return on non-U.S. earnings even if there was no tax liability.

Adjudicator's Field Manual - Redacted Public Version - 20.5 Enforceable Affidavits of Support. [Revised as of 06/27/2006].

and

What income documentation is required? link
With their Form I-864, the sponsor is required to submit an IRS transcript or photocopy of only the most recent Federal income tax return. However, the sponsor may, at his or her option, submit Federal income tax returns for the three most recent years if the sponsor believes these additional tax returns may help establish the sponsor's ability to maintain his or her household income at the applicable threshold set forth in the poverty guidelines.

and from the I-864 form instructions, item 25, page 8:

You must provide either an IRS transcript or a photocopy from your own records of your Federal individual income tax return for the most recent tax year. If you believe additional returns may help you to establish your ability to maintain sufficient income, you may submit transcripts or photocopies of your Federal individual income tax returns for the three most recent years.

Trailmix, yes, I agree in part with your opinion and I would never think you have any reason to be rude about it right? First because it won't hurt anyone to send the last 3 tax returns, that was our procedure and we were fine. Since my husband and I went through this procedure last year, long time ago, I thought that we were just following the guides, I realy was misinformed about that, only the last tax return (2007) is requested, the other ones are optional, that's what the guides say indeed. I allways read everything but tax return was his part of the procedure and I really didn't read that part and you're right we should allways send links with instructions and that was my mistake in this case, because if I did it, I would have known that properly and I apologize about that. I usually do send links with information, anyway after all I think no one would get hurt sending the 3 last tax returns or be lead to a worng path in this case, to say that in this particular information would be a exaggeration. I'm a responsible person and allways have been when sharing and posting informations here, although sometimes we pass some and it can happens to anyone. Good luck!

Hi Trail,

I totally agree with you but for us and because I am self employed although over the poverty level, they wanted all three years (and yes tax transcript was attached for 2007 to back it up)- it was part of the RFE so just maybe a req for self employed but I dont think so - think maybe we got a newbie or something - I dont know anymore lol.

When I spoke to a supervisor there, they said yes they wanted three years even though our lawyer says No - again I AGREE but what can we do but comply with their request.

Cheers

But good luck to all!

Hi Susie,

Yes, that is the thing. 'Officially' you are only required to send in the last years transcript or tax return/slips - however, everyone should have all 3 years in hand when they get to NVC.

NVC's blanket instructions for all embassies and all cases just doesn't fly. For instance, for my Husband's application, two things one never would have thought of had to be sent:

1. For the I-864 I had to provide 3 years of Canadian tax returns, although the instructions specifically state - do not send foreign tax returns. (Granted the income on my I-864 was only Canadian - however we were using assets not income). I do understand their reasoning - they wanted to see that I actually have worked (was not currently working) and have reasonable earnings. That said - it's not in the instructions and who would have guessed.

2. My Husband is Australian, Canadian PR, who interviewed at Montreal. In order for him to be interviewed there he had to send a copy of his Canadian PR card - this, of course, is also not in their instructions because it doesn't apply to everyone.

I only submitted 1 U.S. tax return to NVC and it went through without a problem - however - when my Husband got to the interview in Montreal they asked to see the other 2 years, which he had on hand.

I guess the question is, how much stuff do you send to NVC that they are not requesting - does it matter? Probably not, if someone wants to send all 3 years I say go for it

Hi Trail,

Yeah go figure but will send everything to lawyer and if they want it they have it lol - I will be in the UK for two months so might as well send the vial of blood whilst I am at it.

But thank you very much, you just never know.

Cheers!!!! and stop with the thunderstorms neighbor lol

Newbie at VJ, but for sure not at the whole process at NVC. You're really funny guys...

God Bless you!

Virginia