QUOTE(sparkofcreation @ Jun 21 2008, 10:17 PM)

QUOTE(NickD @ Jun 21 2008, 07:34 AM)

You can enter by land or sea from Mexico or Canada (or the Bahamas, or a bunch of other places), with only the natz certificate and a photo ID (like a driver license) until June 2009. You need a passport to enter by air since January 2007.
Is that because terrorists only travel by air? And why are they treating Canada like Mexico? Really don't have a surge of Canadians coming down here to lose health care, get American jobs that moved up to Canada, and to pay a much higher price for prescription drugs. And why did all this start six years after 9/11?
Sorry for the stupid questions.
They are treating Canada like Mexico because those are the only two countries by which you can enter by land. They are treating Canada and the Caribbean countries like Mexico because those are the only countries by which you can enter by sea. There's no point in saying "you need a passport to enter by land from Egypt."
And the delay was because many, many, many people drive between the countries, so it makes sense to have that be the last stage implemented. Hopefully a lot of people who didn't have a passport before would have gotten one in order to travel by air, and (hopefully) some of them will think ahead and get one now rather than waiting another year.
Oh, and as for your crack about medical care in Canada, I do know (of) a Canadian who was living in illegally in the US as an overstay in order to get health care. I personally have a medical condition where it took me about two months to start treatment here, but that delay would have been up to five years in Canada (about six months in the UK).
And it didn't *start* six years after 9/11; this is all part of the implementation of the recommendations of the September 11 Committee, which was convened immediately after 9/11. It's merely *ending* several years after 9/11. Just because you didn't know about it until now doesn't mean it wasn't in progress for the last six and a half years.
Not quite not knowing about it, but do know many laws have been passed during that period of time that is taking away our freedom with the guise of our safety. Might as well lock all 300 million of us in padded cells for our safety and laws are passed on the theory they will help without any effective enforcement of those laws or even doing a study if those laws are effective in accomplishing what they were intended for.
I suppose if you have the mentally of a lamb and do what your told, these laws are okay, but lambs are led to slaughter, this is suppose to be free and independent country, but with many of our government laws we are becoming very dependent with very limited freedom.
With 435 representatives, 100 senators, 9 supreme court judges, and one executive, it only takes 273 guys that is only 0.000091% of the population to make a law, only five guys on the supreme court can give the opinion that a new law does not conflict with our constitution. And if some of those guys were appointed by the president and approved by his congress, that very lowers the percentage that represents the will of the people. This is how our constitution was mangled in recent years.
Freedom of speech is wiped out if you say the wrong thing to a government official supposingly, you will find an IRS tax auditor at your door whether you deserved it or not. Some crackpot shoots someone and your right to bear arms is taken away, and the USCIS has the right to invade your bedroom if you elect to marry a person outside of this country just as a few examples. By recent polls, 80% of Americans are not happy what is going on, but it is still going on, with our vast means of communication, just seems like Americans should be given more of a say in what laws are passed. And are our representatives really serving the people?
Our borders to Canada have been opened for almost 200 years, are these new laws justified? And what about 9/11, America is suppose to be a peace loving charitable country, but somebody high up teed off this some two dozen terrorists that not only resulted in the wrongful deaths of 3,000 people but another 600,000 innocent people in retaliation. The wrong people are paying the price.