My Pete filed for his new police report after he left the US at the end of February. So far it has not appeared. He's talked to someone in (New Scotland Yard?) and he's talked to his local constable. He's talked to a supervisor at the police station. They all promise to look for it or to get it for him.
The local constable did look on the computer and has confirmed that the check was cashed and that the police report has not been received at the police station?
Are we doing something wrong? Have we missed something? Is it supposed to go to the police station and then THEY send it to the person who applied for it?
What more can Pete do? Thank you for any help -- this is the only thing holding him up.
Full Version: Police Report lost? Was sent for in MARCH!!
don't know about the new ones, but the old ones arrived in the mail to your designated address... aren't the new ones supposed to take less time? I'd hazard a guess it's lost 
bugger, as they say
bugger, as they say
For a while now police certs from UK come from a central office not local office.
SEE:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.asp
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/...s2001.html#pcuk
SEE:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.asp
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/...s2001.html#pcuk
my police certficate came directly to my home address within 3 working days. 
I applied for my police report a few weeks ago and it came 8 days later. Your fiancé needs to be dealing with the people at ACPO and not his local station they have nothing to do with the process any longer. If he originally applied through the police station its quite likely the reports you ordered will no longer be accepted at the embassey. The process changed at the beginning of the year and you need to make sure you have the ACPO report to pass the interview.
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
QUOTE(BexandAlan @ Jun 11 2008, 08:13 AM) 
Your fiancé needs to be dealing with the people at ACPO and not his local station they have nothing to do with the process any longer. If he originally applied through the police station its quite likely the reports you ordered will no longer be accepted at the embassey. The process changed at the beginning of the year and you need to make sure you have the ACPO report to pass the interview.
What she said
QUOTE(BexandAlan @ Jun 11 2008, 03:13 AM)
I applied for my police report a few weeks ago and it came 8 days later. Your fiancé needs to be dealing with the people at ACPO and not his local station they have nothing to do with the process any longer. If he originally applied through the police station its quite likely the reports you ordered will no longer be accepted at the embassey. The process changed at the beginning of the year and you need to make sure you have the ACPO report to pass the interview.
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
This is confusing - my fiance is in Scotland and is applying for a Criminal History System and Police National Computer checks through the Lothian & Borders Police. The email they sent him today states that:
"Letters from either Lothian and Borders Police (about information held on the Scottish Criminal History System) or the National Identification Service (which deals with applications for information from the Police National Computer) will be accepted by visa and immigration authorities. You will either receive a letter stating that there is no known information in your name, or a copy of any information that is held about you."
It seems that the ACPO specifically states for England, Northern Ireland, and Wales - but Scotland is omitted. Any idea where he should get his report from?
Thanks!
Celtic59 is a recent scottish graduate and had to get, and did get an ACPO cert. The good news is, they are very fast to process.
Your fiancé needs to be dealing with the people at ACPO and not his local station they have nothing to do with the process any longer. If he originally applied through the police station its quite likely the reports you ordered will no longer be accepted at the embassey. The process changed at the beginning of the year and you need to make sure you have the ACPO report to pass the interview.
Thank you, I'm glad I asked on here. WHY on earth is his police station saying THEY will look for it!!!!! (rhetorical question.)
Thank you, I'm glad I asked on here. WHY on earth is his police station saying THEY will look for it!!!!! (rhetorical question.)
I just talked to him and told him what was said on here. This is what happened--he went in early March to his local police station and they gave him the form. He said it was different from the one he had filled out before so it looks like he had the right form.
At the police station they told him to fill it out and bring it back to them. So he filled it out, made out at check to THEM, and they took it and said they would send it to London.
So now he has the cancelled check cashed by the police and nothing from London.
I told him to call the help desk and he will do that tomorrow.
WHAT A MESS! Looks like he might have to start all over again and the police have his money!
Also, while I'm here, he has moved in with his grown daughter recently. Does he absolutely need to change his address with the Embassy or is it alright for him to just have his mail forwarded or held? He thinks it would hold things up if he had to change his address with them.
At the police station they told him to fill it out and bring it back to them. So he filled it out, made out at check to THEM, and they took it and said they would send it to London.
So now he has the cancelled check cashed by the police and nothing from London.
I told him to call the help desk and he will do that tomorrow.
WHAT A MESS! Looks like he might have to start all over again and the police have his money!
Also, while I'm here, he has moved in with his grown daughter recently. Does he absolutely need to change his address with the Embassy or is it alright for him to just have his mail forwarded or held? He thinks it would hold things up if he had to change his address with them.
Are you guys waiting for this to send back your packet 3? I notice from your signature that you haven't returned it yet. I just wanted to say that you should tick the police cert box anyway, and sent Packet 3 back, and worry about the Police cert while the embassy is moving along with your case. The ACPO cert only takes a few days to get back (even at the £35 price), so you'll have no difficulty having it by interview time. 
The new police cert is obtained through the link that Pushbrk provided (the ACPO one) the local police service probably don't stay up to date on the procedures that the US embassy is putting in place. So I wouldn't pay any attention to what form they gave him.
The new police cert is obtained through the link that Pushbrk provided (the ACPO one) the local police service probably don't stay up to date on the procedures that the US embassy is putting in place. So I wouldn't pay any attention to what form they gave him.
Newenglander I just saw your timeline too. If you guys haven't yet sent back P3 you should do that now, my certificates came 8 days after I put the ACPO application in the post first class. . . two days after I sent back P3. Even if something did go drastically wrong Phil can still interview without the certificates and the K1 will be issued pending submission of them anyway - not that it will come to that. Sorry that the local station seems to have everything so wrapped around their necks at least you know what you have to do now.
I would suggest if he hasn't returned P3 yet then he should just include a cover letter informing the embassy of his new whereabouts and asking them to update his record. From what I have seen changing addresses and other minor details won't delay your progress in any way. I don't trust the post office here in the UK and see a delay more likely occurring because the PO lost Packet 4 than anything to do with London. Phil needs the interview letter to get into the embassy and some people have received their letter with only 3-4 days notice to their interview - if he has to wait for it to be re-routed that could get quite messy. Just my 2 cents.
Bex xxx
I would suggest if he hasn't returned P3 yet then he should just include a cover letter informing the embassy of his new whereabouts and asking them to update his record. From what I have seen changing addresses and other minor details won't delay your progress in any way. I don't trust the post office here in the UK and see a delay more likely occurring because the PO lost Packet 4 than anything to do with London. Phil needs the interview letter to get into the embassy and some people have received their letter with only 3-4 days notice to their interview - if he has to wait for it to be re-routed that could get quite messy. Just my 2 cents.
Bex xxx
QUOTE(Hopeful5 @ Jun 11 2008, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE(BexandAlan @ Jun 11 2008, 03:13 AM)
I applied for my police report a few weeks ago and it came 8 days later. Your fiancé needs to be dealing with the people at ACPO and not his local station they have nothing to do with the process any longer. If he originally applied through the police station its quite likely the reports you ordered will no longer be accepted at the embassey. The process changed at the beginning of the year and you need to make sure you have the ACPO report to pass the interview.
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
I would say call the ACPO helpdesk, the woman is lovely. She will be able to check whether the report has ever been carried out or not and she will also know if you SO will need to send new photos or whether or not the original one on file can be put onto your replacements.
The reports come direct to your house so you might want to ask Pete to call your local sorting office and see if they are holding anything for him. Mine came direct through the door but maybe they chose not to deliver them to him for one reason or another. The return address on the back of the envelope was ACPO so perhaps the woman at the help desk can tell you if they have been returned also.
Good luck
Bex xxx
This is confusing - my fiance is in Scotland and is applying for a Criminal History System and Police National Computer checks through the Lothian & Borders Police. The email they sent him today states that:
"Letters from either Lothian and Borders Police (about information held on the Scottish Criminal History System) or the National Identification Service (which deals with applications for information from the Police National Computer) will be accepted by visa and immigration authorities. You will either receive a letter stating that there is no known information in your name, or a copy of any information that is held about you."
It seems that the ACPO specifically states for England, Northern Ireland, and Wales - but Scotland is omitted. Any idea where he should get his report from?
Thanks!
Hi,
Its the same one - i found this -
Scotland - Police certificates from the Association of Chief Police Officers of England, Wales and Northern Ireland (ACPO) also cover Scotland. All citizens and residents of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (including those resident in Scotland) should apply through ACPO.
on another wmbassy site
REgards
DE
Thank you, everyone. We have become very impatient about this. Pete has emailed me that he has downloaded the CORRECT police report form and will be sending it in. He's upset with his local police for not knowing and leading him to believe that it would be arriving. They will be refunding his money.
ANOTHER brick wall: he can't send in the packet because our US lawyer did it all on her computer and sent it to him. He only has limited use of a computer in a library so the lawyer thought it best to do it and send it to him. HE STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED IT! Now I think we should have sent it DHL but we sent it international first class. It was supposed to take about one week but it's been several weeks now. (I wonder if the lawyer has a tracking number and can look it up --just thought of that.)
ANOTHER brick wall: he can't send in the packet because our US lawyer did it all on her computer and sent it to him. He only has limited use of a computer in a library so the lawyer thought it best to do it and send it to him. HE STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED IT! Now I think we should have sent it DHL
but we sent it international first class. It was supposed to take about one week but it's been several weeks now. (I wonder if the lawyer has a tracking number and can look it up --just thought of that.)QUOTE(newenglander @ Jun 12 2008, 04:43 PM)
Thank you, everyone. We have become very impatient about this. Pete has emailed me that he has downloaded the CORRECT police report form and will be sending it in. He's upset with his local police for not knowing and leading him to believe that it would be arriving. They will be refunding his money.
ANOTHER brick wall: he can't send in the packet because our US lawyer did it all on her computer and sent it to him. He only has limited use of a computer in a library so the lawyer thought it best to do it and send it to him. HE STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED IT! Now I think we should have sent it DHL but we sent it international first class. It was supposed to take about one week but it's been several weeks now. (I wonder if the lawyer has a tracking number and can look it up --just thought of that.)
ANOTHER brick wall: he can't send in the packet because our US lawyer did it all on her computer and sent it to him. He only has limited use of a computer in a library so the lawyer thought it best to do it and send it to him. HE STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED IT! Now I think we should have sent it DHL
but we sent it international first class. It was supposed to take about one week but it's been several weeks now. (I wonder if the lawyer has a tracking number and can look it up --just thought of that.)Has he sent back packet 3 yet? as he only need to include the forms there and tick the checklist and take all the other stuff to the interview
and the London K-1 check list is scanned on this very website. You could print it out and send it to him.
Has he sent back packet 3 yet? as he only need to include the forms there and tick the checklist and take all the other stuff to the interview
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I don't think he has the forms to send in. Our lawyer here in the US took his information and filled it all in for him -- I think he needs those forms to send in and he's still waiting to receive them.
It's all gone crazy but I hope this is just a phase we're going through. Now the police don't want to refund his check! they just want to send a letter to London saying that he already paid -- he'll get his money back one way or another and will send it to London with his new form. He has also talked to the nice woman, Alice, at the help desk and has obtained useful information from her.
Think were all getting concerned here that your holding up packet 3 when there is no need to and you can get an interview date sorted, based on when i sent mine back on 22 May its taken 3 weeks to get packet 4 and then another 3 weeks till my interview date. So if he dl's and completes them its all information that you both know and sends it back tomorrow its going to be few more weeks before an interview date is set.
Thats why we keep asking. Its just that the longer you take sending packet 3 back you will have to then wait for packet 4 and then the interview date, so could be quite a while longer.
To send packet 3 back its just a case of filling in a few forms and sending those back - there is no need at this stage to send any evidence.
Hope this helps
Pandora
Guess were just concerned about you thats all and if the police cert isnt resolved by an interview date then the embassy will hold the visa awaiting the certificate and then forward it to him once they receive it.
QUOTE(pandora @ Jun 16 2008, 01:00 PM)
Think were all getting concerned here that your holding up packet 3 when there is no need to and you can get an interview date sorted, based on when i sent mine back on 22 May its taken 3 weeks to get packet 4 and then another 3 weeks till my interview date. So if he dl's and completes them its all information that you both know and sends it back tomorrow its going to be few more weeks before an interview date is set.
Thats why we keep asking. Its just that the longer you take sending packet 3 back you will have to then wait for packet 4 and then the interview date, so could be quite a while longer.
To send packet 3 back its just a case of filling in a few forms and sending those back - there is no need at this stage to send any evidence.
Hope this helps
Pandora
Guess were just concerned about you thats all and if the police cert isnt resolved by an interview date then the embassy will hold the visa awaiting the certificate and then forward it to him once they receive it.
Thats why we keep asking. Its just that the longer you take sending packet 3 back you will have to then wait for packet 4 and then the interview date, so could be quite a while longer.
To send packet 3 back its just a case of filling in a few forms and sending those back - there is no need at this stage to send any evidence.
Hope this helps
Pandora
Guess were just concerned about you thats all and if the police cert isnt resolved by an interview date then the embassy will hold the visa awaiting the certificate and then forward it to him once they receive it.
UPDATE----UPDATE----UPDATE
Thank you for your kind concern, everyone. Just had a phone call -- Pete has FINALLY received the completed and ready to sign and send packet 3 from our lawyer. Ours has been very complicated, that's why we had to get a lawyer here in the US. She had HIM send HER the blank forms for HER to fill in and then send back to HIM. She sent them back to the wrong address but today the post office HAD THEM.
So now he has the correct police forms and has sent them in and he finally has packet 3 to send in. He says they wouldn't give him a date for his medical before he had packet 3. He's calling again today for the medical. He says after this experience he's sending everything by registered mail!!!!!!!!
So he will be delayed but in a way it's a good thing because our little doggie was put down on Sunday.
She was an English doggie that he brought over here last summer and she died of old age more than anything. Now, being delayed like this, he will (we hope) have time to find another one like her to bring over when he comes. She was a Lancashire Heeler and you can barely get them over here. We want to become involved in helping to get this PERFECT breed of little doggie established and recognized in the USA. THANKS AGAIN, everyone.
Great news Lois! London seem to have a rocket up their butts right now so you guys will be getting an interview date in no time. Sorry to hear about your little dog. They are a lovely breed it will be quite exciting for Pete to be bringing another with him for the next step of your journey.
Best wishes!
Bex xxx
Best wishes!
Bex xxx
QUOTE(newenglander @ Jun 17 2008, 04:54 PM)
UPDATE----UPDATE----UPDATE
Thank you for your kind concern, everyone. Just had a phone call -- Pete has FINALLY received the completed and ready to sign and send packet 3 from our lawyer. Ours has been very complicated, that's why we had to get a lawyer here in the US. She had HIM send HER the blank forms for HER to fill in and then send back to HIM. She sent them back to the wrong address but today the post office HAD THEM.
So now he has the correct police forms and has sent them in and he finally has packet 3 to send in. He says they wouldn't give him a date for his medical before he had packet 3. He's calling again today for the medical. He says after this experience he's sending everything by registered mail!!!!!!!!
So he will be delayed but in a way it's a good thing because our little doggie was put down on Sunday. She was an English doggie that he brought over here last summer and she died of old age more than anything. Now, being delayed like this, he will (we hope) have time to find another one like her to bring over when he comes. She was a Lancashire Heeler and you can barely get them over here. We want to become involved in helping to get this PERFECT breed of little doggie established and recognized in the USA.
THANKS AGAIN, everyone.
Thank you for your kind concern, everyone. Just had a phone call -- Pete has FINALLY received the completed and ready to sign and send packet 3 from our lawyer. Ours has been very complicated, that's why we had to get a lawyer here in the US. She had HIM send HER the blank forms for HER to fill in and then send back to HIM. She sent them back to the wrong address but today the post office HAD THEM.
So now he has the correct police forms and has sent them in and he finally has packet 3 to send in. He says they wouldn't give him a date for his medical before he had packet 3. He's calling again today for the medical. He says after this experience he's sending everything by registered mail!!!!!!!!
So he will be delayed but in a way it's a good thing because our little doggie was put down on Sunday.
She was an English doggie that he brought over here last summer and she died of old age more than anything. Now, being delayed like this, he will (we hope) have time to find another one like her to bring over when he comes. She was a Lancashire Heeler and you can barely get them over here. We want to become involved in helping to get this PERFECT breed of little doggie established and recognized in the USA. THANKS AGAIN, everyone.
NOOOOoooooo!!!!! Not registered mail!!!!!!! It has to be signed so gets diverted away from the post box and takes longer to get to the mail room and consequently takes longer to get in to the persons hand that's going to deal with it!!!!!!!!!
Having said that, I didn't know all of that when I sent back my packet 3, and to my shame, sent it registered
congrats on recieving pkt 3 finally, and condolences on your lovely doggie
Oh I didn't know that about registered mail either. Hmmmmm.
Congrats on sending off packet 3!
Sorry to hear about your dog. My grandparents have three Lancashire Heelers and they really are delightful little dogs; I like the idea of them becoming more popular in the US!
Sorry to hear about your dog. My grandparents have three Lancashire Heelers and they really are delightful little dogs; I like the idea of them becoming more popular in the US!
Sorry to hear about your dog. My grandparents have three Lancashire Heelers and they really are delightful little dogs; I like the idea of them becoming more popular in the US!
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NOOOOoooooo!!!!! Not registered mail!!!!!!! It has to be signed so gets diverted away[/i]
I'll tell him NO registered mail. Seems with this visa process sometimes you're d***ed if you do and d***ed if you don't. LOL BUT we are winning, we are all winning.
THREE Lancashire Heelers, your grandparents must have a lot of fun. Those dogs make people happy, that's what they like to do best, I think.
Thanks for the help and good luck all.
I'm sorry to say it, but i've never heard of lawyers actually improving this process. They seem to add to the stress rather than ease it.
Make sure to tell Pete to check the forms before he sends them. I have heard of lawyers putting the wrong info on the forms, and causing even further mess.
Make sure to tell Pete to check the forms before he sends them. I have heard of lawyers putting the wrong info on the forms, and causing even further mess.
The 4th of July and we have had a breakthrough. (They do happen.)
After Pete sent in the correct police form, nothing happened. Three weeks and nothing received so he started phoning them and phoning them. They kept saying it was in the pipeline, it had to run its course. FINALLY today they phoned him and said that they were very sorry but they had LOST two of his papers!
Fortunately they gave him a personal email address and he scanned and emailed the two missing papers to them so now they have them AGAIN. Now they're saying he should finally have the police report in a week.
They said -- ignore the instructions about not stapling the papers together. They are losing lots of them and they are snowed under -- he said they are under about 24" of snow/paperwork. So staple or put a paperclip on your papers. They are overwhelmed because they have had so much dumped on them, including checks for foreign doctors and dentists, police recruits, nurses,
etc.
After Pete sent in the correct police form, nothing happened. Three weeks and nothing received so he started phoning them and phoning them. They kept saying it was in the pipeline, it had to run its course. FINALLY today they phoned him and said that they were very sorry but they had LOST two of his papers!
Fortunately they gave him a personal email address and he scanned and emailed the two missing papers to them so now they have them AGAIN. Now they're saying he should finally have the police report in a week.
They said -- ignore the instructions about not stapling the papers together. They are losing lots of them and they are snowed under -- he said they are under about 24" of snow/paperwork. So staple or put a paperclip on your papers. They are overwhelmed because they have had so much dumped on them, including checks for foreign doctors and dentists, police recruits, nurses,
etc.
So just to be clear, this is the ACPO cert that he has had trouble with? Because that is the only one the embassy will accept.
QUOTE(Poiteen @ Jul 5 2008, 06:34 AM)
So just to be clear, this is the ACPO cert that he has had trouble with? Because that is the only one the embassy will accept.
I'm not sure, it's just called the police certificate.
I'm not so happy now. It seems that the email that Pete sent with the two pages that they lost was never received. So Pete photocopied the two pages and sent them in again.
He's constantly in touch with them now -- latest news is that the forms he just sent in didn't have the date on them. So today he's scanned and emailed them again. If they don't get them this time, I assume he'll photocopy and SEND them AGAIN.
On the good side -- his contact person in (wherever they send for the police certificate) says that since his record is clean, he should just go ahead with the medical and at the medical they can just call HIM and he will vouch for Pete -- no waiting or pending.
The medical people aren't the ones that deal with the police report, it's the embassy, and they will only accept the ACPO report, and nothing else. I think it's worth clarifying this with Pete, as all this effort would be in vain, if it's getting a police report from the wrong dept.
The police cert that the embassy USED to accept, would still be the correct one for other purposes like working with children etc. It's not up to the police to tell you which form is correct, it's the embassy.
The police cert that the embassy USED to accept, would still be the correct one for other purposes like working with children etc. It's not up to the police to tell you which form is correct, it's the embassy.
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