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thetreble
What the %$#@!!!???

I'm actually disheartened by this. It's...cultural!
Krikit
It always comes down to money.

But it sure won't be the same. sad.gif
thetreble
Since the mind-80s I have been listening to that intro song pretty much every saturday night. (until i moved to this god forsaken place I guess..hahah wink.gif )

It just seems like it's iconic in a way....Why is there a need to change it? This might just be as bad as when Blue died sad.gif
flames9
I read on one site, she gets about $500 a game for it!
MrsCat
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


flames9
oh ya,there will be some serious outrage over this!! i wish i knew how to download the theme to my verizon cell phone!!
Eric_and_Corinna
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Where in Alaska did he live? I might know him good.gif
Krikit
QUOTE(Eric_and_Corinna @ Jun 5 2008, 07:35 PM) *
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Where in Alaska did he live? I might know him good.gif

Ruh roh. Careful Catt. laughing.gif
Texanadian
Some how opening a hockey game with the Friendly Giant theme song just wouldn't be the same.

Stick with the old song!
Eric_and_Corinna
QUOTE(Krikit @ Jun 5 2008, 08:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Eric_and_Corinna @ Jun 5 2008, 07:35 PM) *
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Where in Alaska did he live? I might know him good.gif

Ruh roh. Careful Catt. laughing.gif



It's too late now!! She already married him no matter what I might know wink.gif
Leafgal
Perhaps it is time for us all to write about our outrage to them, like it was said shades of the Ron McLean debacle.
MrsCat
QUOTE(Eric_and_Corinna @ Jun 5 2008, 05:35 PM) *
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Where in Alaska did he live? I might know him good.gif


Chris lived in Metlakatla - aka Annette Island Indian Reservation

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=met...sa=N&tab=wl

And a caveat - prior to January, 2006 I am not responsible for a single thing or person his did! devil.gif

Earmuffs
never cared for hockey...


and if you want the song on your cell just transfer it from your computer... thats what i do..
Eric_and_Corinna
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 10:44 PM) *
QUOTE(Eric_and_Corinna @ Jun 5 2008, 05:35 PM) *
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Where in Alaska did he live? I might know him good.gif


Chris lived in Metlakatla - aka Annette Island Indian Reservation

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=met...sa=N&tab=wl

And a caveat - prior to January, 2006 I am not responsible for a single thing or person his did! devil.gif


I never met anyone from there, so you're safe wink.gif

QUOTE(Earmuffs @ Jun 6 2008, 04:14 AM) *
never cared for hockey...


and if you want the song on your cell just transfer it from your computer... thats what i do..


Earmuffs, it's a good thing you live in Texas then!! Plenty of NASCAR and football to keep you busy...
trailmix
As news reports circulated Thursday suggesting the CBC had already dumped Claman's composition, objections were quickly voiced by ordinary fans and more notable ones -- including Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach and longtime Hockey Night in Canada commentator Howie Meeker.

"This is ridiculous," Stelmach said as the Alberta legislature's spring session wrapped up Thursday.

"Aside from O Canada, the Maple Leaf Forever, really the Hockey Night in Canada theme -- I mean we hear it everywhere, even during the summer."

"You get to a barbecue in rural Alberta and somebody strikes it up after a good volume of O Canada, and it's going to disappear?"

The premier became emotional about the topic and took a deep breath before saying the CBC has caused him a few heartaches and sleepless nights.

He suggested he'd take his "pent-up" feelings to iconic hockey personality Don Cherry.

Meeker, a former NHLer renowned for his high-energy presence during decades of hockey telecasts, was apoplectic over the reported demise of the theme.

"To half the Canadians 40 years and over, we grew up with that damn thing," Meeker, the 84-year-old ex-Toronto Maple Leaf and former Conservative MP, said from his home in Parksville, B.C.

"That's part of our history, part of our life, part of the enthusiasm for the game. When you heard that, you thought Canada, you thought hockey, you thought CBC. What idiot -- What the hell are they trying to do? Who's running the CBC?"

Calgary Herald
thetreble
Well it turns out there has been a pretty big outrage about this and anecdotes have started to pop up everywhere. A father said that in 1990, in Tokyo, Japan, his son stood up in a crowd at a bar or restaurant and started to sing the HNIC anthem. Well, all of a sudden, random Canadians who just happened to be there also stood up and began to sing along with his son. haha dancin5hr.gif How amazing is that?

Any way- I do understand that it's extremely costly to play the song. But again, it's so iconic to our culture. The HNIC theme song, with your friends at a bar, drinking a beer. Come on! haha
MrsCat
I think one solution is that the Alberta Gov't just pay for the song - especially since Steady Eddy is a fan. We can take one penny from every barrel of oil to subsidize the rest of Canada's enjoyment. I mean if we're going to ruin our environment, lets do it to a good tune!
thetreble
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 6 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I think one solution is that the Alberta Gov't just pay for the song - especially since Steady Eddy is a fan. We can take one penny from every barrel of oil to subsidize the rest of Canada's enjoyment. I mean if we're going to ruin our environment, lets do it to a good tune!


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Krikit
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.



QUOTE(thetreble @ Jun 6 2008, 09:55 AM) *
Well it turns out there has been a pretty big outrage about this and anecdotes have started to pop up everywhere. A father said that in 1990, in Tokyo, Japan, his son stood up in a crowd at a bar or restaurant and started to sing the HNIC anthem. Well, all of a sudden, random Canadians who just happened to be there also stood up and began to sing along with his son. haha dancin5hr.gif How amazing is that?

That's just awesome. biggrin.gif
Texanadian
Humming the HNIC song should be a qualified substitute to having a Canadian passport.
Krikit
QUOTE(Texanadian @ Jun 6 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Humming the HNIC song should be a qualified substitute to having a Canadian passport.

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Cassie
QUOTE(Krikit @ Jun 6 2008, 02:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Texanadian @ Jun 6 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Humming the HNIC song should be a qualified substitute to having a Canadian passport.

laughing.gif good.gif


hehe it would be easier than finding a guarantor!
thetreble
I put the HINC song as my ringtone on my phone., No one else is going to get it when it rings here, but I shall savour every call!
flames9
Screw u CBC!!!!! http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240196&lid...s=topStory_main
MrsCat
QUOTE(flames9 @ Jun 9 2008, 01:38 PM) *


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008.../hnic-song.html

They have the audacity to publish the story on their website. Those a$$es!
Eric_and_Corinna
The Hockey Theme lives!!! good.gif

TSN and CTV thumb their collective noses at CBC and purchases the rights to the song formerly known as the HNIC Theme Song. Way to go boys!!

Emancipation
Dolores Claman is a capitalist IMO.. and I DON'T mean that as a compliment.. smile.gif
Mephys
Even if I have never been a hockey fan ( due to being dragged in arenas for my brother's games for about 7 years) this song has been part of so many nights at home. It's just comforting to hear it smile.gif I'm glad they managed to save it.
flames9
I guess it is "saved" but is one goin gto get the same feeling on TSN when it is played as it was on CBC? probably not! I recall when the only game televised during the regualr season was the Saturday night game, now that was hockey night in Canada!!

And from what I have read, there is more to the CBC and write of the song conflict that we know about. I have no qualms with a person wanting to be paid fairly for their work, and her work is a "jingle" write, so she struck gold, good for her! Show me (her) the $$$$,lol
Cassie
I am just surprised that CBC hadn't bought the rights in perpetuity before now! And now it's too late.

HNIC will not be the same.
MrsCat
I was watching CTV news this morning, and the weather guy was dancing to the HNIC song - almost felt he was mocking it. However, I am sure it was done in jest, but it just isn't the same without the CBC logo on the screen - bad way to start the morning.
Texanadian
Honestly, I think we're over blowing it a bit. I mean we're talking about 20 seconds of jingle at the beginning and then the coverage starts. It will be much harder to watch hockey when Don Cherry/Ron McLean stop doing the in-between period banter. Although I must admit, I think Hrudey does a good job. Both on the knowledge aspect and on the entertainment aspect.

Not that I won't miss the HNIC jingle on CBC....but then again, the only hockey I get down here is on ESPN and ABC. So I miss everything about watching hockey on CBC. Almost makes me want to buy a Bell ExpressVu and set it up down here.
flames9

Hockey theme 'wasn't hard to do,' composer says

PETER CHENEY

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

June 12, 2008 at 4:52 AM EDT

TORONTO — It started on a peaceful afternoon in 1968, when Dolores Claman sat down at her Knabe grand piano and began picking at the keys, searching for a sound. Outside the window was her garden, then the blue expanse of Lake Ontario. Ms. Claman tried B-flat, then the key of C, seeking the musical essence of something she had never seen firsthand: a professional hockey game.

Ms. Claman was a classically trained musician who loved Bach, but she made her living composing jingles. She had written music for everything from toothpaste to its natural enemy, Macintosh toffee. Now she was thinking about Canada's national sport. She pictured Roman gladiators wearing skates. Suddenly, five notes popped into her head. She tapped them out, stressing the third: "dunt-da-DUNT-da-dunt."

Ms. Claman had no idea that she just made herself part of Canadian history - and that she had set the stage for an epic battle 40 years in the future.

"I wasn't thinking about much at the time," Ms. Claman, 80, said yesterday from her home in London, England. "The song wasn't hard to do."

Her song, which was adopted as the theme of CBC's Saturday Hockey Night in Canada broadcast, went on to become one of the country's most recognizable commercial tunes, but until this week, when rival network CTV bought it for an amount estimated at more than $1-million, it never made her more than a modest income.

"I am not a jet-set lady," she said. "I don't even own a car."

Ms. Claman's payoff is the coda to one of the strangest and most emotional battles in Canadian business history. By last week, she and the CBC were locked in what amounted to a game of chicken.

On Friday, the broadcaster announced that it couldn't come to terms with Ms. Claman, and will hold a national song-writing competition to find a new theme for Hockey Night in Canada.

On Monday came stunning news: CTV had bought Ms. Claman's song, and will use it as the centrepiece of its hockey coverage. Most fans hailed the move, but there are some dissenters; one fan compared it to selling The Star Spangled Banner to China.

For Ms. Claman, the sale is a welcome end to years of wrangling with the CBC, and is dollars-and-cents confirmation of her song's place in the national imagination. "I'm really glad that people care about it. It's been a long, hard road."

CTV will not say how much it paid for the song, but sources said the bid far exceeded $1-million. (Ms. Claman said yesterday that the CBC's top offer was approximately $850,000.)

For Ms. Claman, commercial vindication was long in coming. She composed the Hockey Night in Canada theme in 1968, on contract for a Toronto advertising firm. Because the song was classified as an advertising jingle, she did not get residuals. Instead, she was paid a one-time creative fee of $800. Her composition was performed by a 20-member orchestra; ironically, the musicians were paid union rates each time the song was used on air.

In the early 1970s, Ms. Claman's music was reclassified as a "theme" after the CBC began using it as the standard introduction to Hockey Night in Canada, meaning that she was entitled to music-use licence payments. She said the CBC paid between $2,000 and $10,000 each year. She believes the average was about $4,000. That changed in 1993, after she connected with Toronto agent John Ciccone, who advised her to license the song. After that, she was paid approximately $500 per broadcast, yielding a gross annual income estimated at $30,000 to $45,000.

Ms. Claman was born in Vancouver and won a scholarship to New York's prestigious Juilliard School of Music as a teenager. She later founded a commercial music company in Toronto with her husband, a British lyricist, and wrote more than 2,000 jingles and theme songs. She said yesterday she had no idea the hockey song she composed 40 years ago in her Scarborough living room would last so long.

"It just arrived in my head," she said. She wanted her song to reflect the narrative arc of hockey itself: the arrival at the rink, the battle on the ice, then the trip home, "plus a cold beer."

Ms. Claman said she employed an old advertising-business trick when she submitted her song. She actually composed two: the dunt-da-DUNT-da-dunt theme, plus a second one that she knew CBC executives and advertisers would reject.

"You have to make them feel like they had a choice. That's how the business works."
thetreble
I'm glad the song will at least still be heard. However, imaging HNIC with another jingle seems awkward. There will be no sing alongs sad.gif It took us all years to get that little diddy down! haha
flames9
Im sure CBC can get Anne Murray to write something!!
MrsCat
QUOTE(flames9 @ Jun 12 2008, 02:08 PM) *
Im sure CBC can get Anne Murray to write something!!


laughing.gif
thetreble
QUOTE(flames9 @ Jun 12 2008, 04:08 PM) *
Im sure CBC can get Anne Murray to write something!!


Ahhhhh! NOOOOOOO! laughing.gif
JoeCanuk
QUOTE(cattattude @ Jun 5 2008, 05:38 PM) *
OMFG - that's just wrong. Honestly, I bet it'll be just like when CBC wouldn't negotiate a pay raise for Ron McLean - so much outrage that they just did it in the end.

When I first met Chris - he lived on this small small island in Alaska. And when I first arrived, all the locals would sing the HNIC song when I walked through the grocery store. It made it feel like home. Everyone knows that song - its part of being CDN.


Exactly. I told my wife I'd give up my Canadian citizenship if this went down. lol She did not understand what the big deal was about a song so I just said that you had to be Canadian to understand.
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