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LSURVIVOR
Hello, today was a bad day for my husband at K3 interview and me here in Michigan, We had everything that was asked for in an interview, the big day was finally here, I was so full of excite ment and anticipation then a bomb fell on our day. My husband sat for 5 hours he was the last one called. But let me back up...he sat up front and watched all people get a denial none not one person turned in their passport for any visa! The woman before him was a Moroccan woman (who was a US citizen for 23 yrs) with her older non english speaking mother to get a visitor visa for her Mom. The blonde CO denied her the visa too! The daughter screamed at the CO *why can't Mom go with me today she went and was approved for visa 4 times already in 8 years , why not this time? *this is Bulls--t and f--- you and s---t on that visa and grabbed her Mom who almost fainted out the door! then they called Adils name, the last one and he knew in his heart he was not getting a visa from that blonde CO. She asked him about 60 questions, (this interview took 40 minutes) since I am 11 trs older than him and *fixed ....cannot have children--she asked him, you know you cannot have children with her right( what a nosy woman) she asked about my maiden name (he told her it was Polish) asked about my ex and my dead husband, then she looked at ALL emails and wedding dinner pics, my phone bills, commented to him on my age and I look way younger, was smiling at him and handed him the 221g white paper, took his cell phone number and said he will be called in 3 weeks to 2 months, do I need to write my Senator in Michigan or something? Are they just gonna send his fingerprints to Washington DC or something, do I need to write consulate? help, !!! its been 13 months marriage to this big day that was crushed! Thank you if anyone can respond.....sad me Diana
Haole
QUOTE(LSURVIVOR @ Jun 4 2008, 08:00 PM) *
Hello, today was a bad day for my husband at K3 interview and me here in Michigan, We had everything that was asked for in an interview, the big day was finally here, I was so full of excite ment and anticipation then a bomb fell on our day. My husband sat for 5 hours he was the last one called. But let me back up...he sat up front and watched all people get a denial none not one person turned in their passport for any visa! The woman before him was a Moroccan woman (who was a US citizen for 23 yrs) with her older non english speaking mother to get a visitor visa for her Mom. The blonde CO denied her the visa too! The daughter screamed at the CO *why can't Mom go with me today she went and was approved for visa 4 times already in 8 years , why not this time? *this is Bulls--t and f--- you and s---t on that visa and grabbed her Mom who almost fainted out the door! then they called Adils name, the last one and he knew in his heart he was not getting a visa from that blonde CO. She asked him about 60 questions, (this interview took 40 minutes) since I am 11 trs older than him and *fixed ....cannot have children--she asked him, you know you cannot have children with her right( what a nosy woman) she asked about my maiden name (he told her it was Polish) asked about my ex and my dead husband, then she looked at ALL emails and wedding dinner pics, my phone bills, commented to him on my age and I look way younger, was smiling at him and handed him the 221g white paper, took his cell phone number and said he will be called in 3 weeks to 2 months, do I need to write my Senator in Michigan or something? Are they just gonna send his fingerprints to Washington DC or something, do I need to write consulate? help, !!! its been 13 months marriage to this big day that was crushed! Thank you if anyone can respond.....sad me Diana

Call your senator. He should be in your phone book or Google Senators Michigan.
What did the 221g ask for?
hheaven67
omg, we are sooooo sorry to hear this...we pray for you & your husband....take care...

jen & jim
pushbrk
What does the 221g notice say? We need information to give information.
caybee
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Jun 5 2008, 02:27 PM) *
What does the 221g notice say? We need information to give information.

Right, this is very important. Almost everyone interviewing in Casa, including us, gets a 221(g). It is very rare for anyone to receive the visa the same day. In some cases, the 221(g) means you just have to wait for security checks to be completed and then they will ask for the passport to put in the visa. In others, it means your file is being returned to USCIS, and in that case, you need to take immediate action to try to prevent the return -- some have done that successfully.

Please ask your husband to scan the 221(g) paper and send it to you, and let us know EXACTLY what it says. Even if it's the worst case, there are folks in the MENA regional forum who can help you with the next step, but since they told him they would contact him, I am hopeful for you.
Nagishkaw
Well, if he was denied, I think she would have just stopped the interview instead of it going on for 40 minutes. Perhaps they are placing him on AP. And too, there woul;d be no need for her to say they will call him in 3 weeks to 2 months. Call DOS and see what they say about the 221g.
brnidokiegurl
I dont see where you said they told him they were SENDING BACK THE PETITION, once you tell us what the papers say we will know more but so far i dont see a return...
Marlita
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.


UGH!!!
Paris Heart
QUOTE(Marlita @ Jun 5 2008, 06:37 PM) *
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.


UGH!!!

I read the embassy review for Moracco, pretty much all mention the "blond lady" she sounds like a demon disguised as human C.O.
I wonder what her record is for denials VS. approvals??? Marlita your right. Age dont matter, and what business is it of C.O.? men do like older woman, Im 8 years older then my love. We can marry who ever we want, but its a shame when a agency has the power to let you live together or not in "The Land of the Free" with your one true Love.
God Bless everyone. Keep faith Diana, its not over with yet Dear. Your in my prays.
Paris Heart
LSURVIVOR
QUOTE(mona_jamie @ Jun 5 2008, 02:47 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Jun 5 2008, 02:27 PM) *
What does the 221g notice say? We need information to give information.

Right, this is very important. Almost everyone interviewing in Casa, including us, gets a 221(g). It is very rare for anyone to receive the visa the same day. In some cases, the 221(g) means you just have to wait for security checks to be completed and then they will ask for the passport to put in the visa. In others, it means your file is being returned to USCIS, and in that case, you need to take immediate action to try to prevent the return -- some have done that successfully.

Please ask your husband to scan the 221(g) paper and send it to you, and let us know EXACTLY what it says. Even if it's the worst case, there are folks in the MENA regional forum who can help you with the next step, but since they told him they would contact him, I am hopeful for you.

Hi wow lots of people answered thanks, here goes the 221g..........Your case requires additional administrative processing, we require nothing further from you at this time. We will contact you by telephone as soon as we are able to continue with your case.................. so I am guessing I will call Dept of State after 1 week to look dumb* to see what it means but if blondie said 3 weeks or more I am thinking she meant it (for fingerprint checks?), and that blonde (maureen ) needs to get a life and move to another consulate, its a wonder she does not have a flat tire or 3 when she gets out of work every day. She is over doing her job, why should she care that Adil cannot have children with me? I had 1 with my ex, that is enough and really none of her business if we match right!? thanks everyone for calming my nerves! Diana
LSURVIVOR
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Jun 5 2008, 02:27 PM) *
What does the 221g notice say? We need information to give information.

well hi there! I do not know if I have to answer everyone that asked and sent me info but I will do this for you guys, you seem like smartie pants (in a good way!) and I like that in you all.....221g
**your case requires administrative processing, we require nothing further from you at this time. We will contact you by telephone as soon as we are able to continue with your case**
so this is a mouse and cat game now huh? they put a piece of paper in your hand and wiggle it til you get sick of waiting and want to pull your hair out! I do not drink but I sure want a stiff rum and coke now heh! heck throw in a cigarette and I do not smoke either! I need something to calm my nerves so I am guessing he will be here in Michigan in 2 months? I may still contact Dept of State after 1 week and play *dumb* like I are already smile.gif thank you, Diana
pushbrk
QUOTE(LSURVIVOR @ Jun 5 2008, 10:32 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Jun 5 2008, 02:27 PM) *
What does the 221g notice say? We need information to give information.

well hi there! I do not know if I have to answer everyone that asked and sent me info but I will do this for you guys, you seem like smartie pants (in a good way!) and I like that in you all.....221g
**your case requires administrative processing, we require nothing further from you at this time. We will contact you by telephone as soon as we are able to continue with your case**
so this is a mouse and cat game now huh? they put a piece of paper in your hand and wiggle it til you get sick of waiting and want to pull your hair out! I do not drink but I sure want a stiff rum and coke now heh! heck throw in a cigarette and I do not smoke either! I need something to calm my nerves so I am guessing he will be here in Michigan in 2 months? I may still contact Dept of State after 1 week and play *dumb* like I are already smile.gif thank you, Diana


It's not a game at all. Nearly all visas from the middle east are getting put through additional AP. I'm sure this is widely discussed in the regional forum. It's why he saw nobody leave with a visa.
morocco4ever
This is in no way a returned petition, so you can calm down. It sounds like she shook you up pretty bad, which is what they like to do. So yes, you can remain calm and wait for the call.

I don't want to be premature here, but seriously I think congratulations will be in order shortly.
Nutty
221(g) - Does it have anything written or marked on it????

Because 221(g) can also be administrative processing......



Administrative Processing means the interview was successful.

But, now you have to wait for the Department of State to do all their security checks and it can be weeks or months before you have security checks cleared.
sara535
Its absolutely standard and par for the course that you received that 221g. Pretty much every Arab male between 16 and 65 is going to get administrative processing/review while security checks are underway. When my husband was going through this I researched ahead of time and I knew to tell him not to freak out when this occurred because its absolutely normal and standard and to be expected. If the 221 g said case was being returned or if the CO said she was going to return it that would be a different story but it sounds to me like he got the normal one.
*Note to anyone else going through Casa (and most of the other middle east/north africa countries) : Expect a 221 g while the security checks are ongoing. read the 221g and make sure its the one for additional processing and then just relax... smile.gif easier said than done but it IS easier if you are prepared and waiting for it.

I also think congratulations are in order for you very soon LSURVIVOR
ColombianoGringo
I hate to be nosy, but how did the CO know that you are unable to have children? How would she know about your medical records?
brnidokiegurl
After reading more i feel u are ok doing normal time checks...but yes Casa is very corrupt...and the blonde is the worst...they make all these decisions that are not theirs to make....on the looks, age whatever but of course they are not going to write this down as reasons...they play with to many people life here. If this is doing there job funny how they give visas to guys that have broken up with the girls here and let them come on over , this is really doing a good job to check!!!!! Then you let someone go there did all papers right, tell nothing but truth BUT they feel to say no (they prob come right out and ask about the question of having kids) they have been known to ask many questions that should be held private
LSURVIVOR
QUOTE(Marlita @ Jun 5 2008, 07:37 PM) *
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.


UGH!!!
hey! you are my kind of friend we are on the same page! we should go to lunch hah and discuss the blondie and ways to make her change her vocation right! Sounds like a plan, You would be a good friend to have around! later, Diana
sara535
QUOTE(LSURVIVOR @ Jun 6 2008, 10:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Marlita @ Jun 5 2008, 07:37 PM) *
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.


UGH!!!
hey! you are my kind of friend we are on the same page! we should go to lunch hah and discuss the blondie and ways to make her change her vocation right! Sounds like a plan, You would be a good friend to have around! later, Diana


Unfortunately, Casablanca IS a high fraud consulate and there are many many cases of younger men marrying older women for the green card and to get out of Morocco. It happens. So they really ARE just doing their jobs there, although some with a more bitter attitude than others (like Blondie). Of course there are some legitimate couples that get messed up by it and there are some scammers that make it through. But the point is, Casa seems to have sadly earned its reputation for fraud and couples going through there need to be aware of this and realize its going to impact their case. Situations like age differences and future children really do raise questions and will probably be scrutinized at interview time. everyone dealing with this consulate needs to do like the boy scouts and be prepared !
LSURVIVOR
QUOTE(sara535 @ Jun 9 2008, 11:53 AM) *
QUOTE(LSURVIVOR @ Jun 6 2008, 10:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Marlita @ Jun 5 2008, 07:37 PM) *
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.

Hey thanks for that info, I am so naive when it comes to this, I went into this blind apparently and being honest not knowing anything about this consulate or how they do things, as long as he gets his visa then we will be complete, this wednesday is 7 days waiting *sigh* later, Dee

UGH!!!
hey! you are my kind of friend we are on the same page! we should go to lunch hah and discuss the blondie and ways to make her change her vocation right! Sounds like a plan, You would be a good friend to have around! later, Diana


Unfortunately, Casablanca IS a high fraud consulate and there are many many cases of younger men marrying older women for the green card and to get out of Morocco. It happens. So they really ARE just doing their jobs there, although some with a more bitter attitude than others (like Blondie). Of course there are some legitimate couples that get messed up by it and there are some scammers that make it through. But the point is, Casa seems to have sadly earned its reputation for fraud and couples going through there need to be aware of this and realize its going to impact their case. Situations like age differences and future children really do raise questions and will probably be scrutinized at interview time. everyone dealing with this consulate needs to do like the boy scouts and be prepared !

LSURVIVOR
QUOTE(ColombianoGringo @ Jun 6 2008, 06:27 PM) *
I hate to be nosy, but how did the CO know that you are unable to have children? How would she know about your medical records?



The CO asked Adil you plan to have children? he says I (me) had surgery and cannot have children, why does she ask this question, it is my private life and he thought so too! Many times in that 40 min of interview he had to hold back and not say what he was thinking cause she was so rude but I am amazed he did, ( he is an awful quiet kind of guy and cannot believe that CO got him riled up.) He said he was gonna say some bad words to her but thought of how long we waited for that interview. I guess she was weeding out the fake marriages eh? Well she got a real one and hope she sticks that in her hat! It will be 7 days of waiting this Wednesday the 11th, wonder how much longer for that phone call from the consulate!! Thanks for taking the time to chit chat, Diana
Rajaa_Reda
My heart sinks everytime I read posts about my husband's consulate.... I love the people of morocco but can't tolerate the politics there. even in our own consulate. When we got married it was a nightmare of corruption and only was able to become married was we knew a judge who knew a judge who knew the first judge that said no.l.... you get my point?? Anyway, I feel sick when I read these... But Insha'allah it'll all end with a happy ending???
Balogun4ever
QUOTE(Marlita @ Jun 5 2008, 08:37 PM) *
OMG! This consulate is crazy! 11 years isnt even a big age difference. And why is it that people think its so odd that the woman is older than the man....HELLO...women look good...men are attracted to that.....what does the age matter. And geesh...all in your business about having children or not...what in the world does this have to do with immigration?! I thought the CO was supposed to interview to make sure all work is in order. Why does the system let you get all the way thru name checks security checks financial checks only to have some random CO who has had you file for all of 5 minutes to deny you?!! This system is a load of crap sometimes. I know they are doing their job,,blah blah blah...but what the hell was USCIS and NVC doing in all that time prior. Why does the CO get to change your fate by just looking at you and thinking to themselves..."hmmm...this guy and this lady don't look like they 'match', let me deny them, or make them wait another 2 months of BS time and see if they come back"...I want to start yelling discrimination and prejudice cause this is obviously a case of judging a book by its cover not by the content of whats inside. I'm just so fed up with people and THEIR idealogy of what is acceptable.


UGH!!!


I couldnt have worded it better Marlita. I have yet to figure how USCIS and NVC put our I-129F and I130 thru in less than 2 months to have one person contest our marriage. I am 10 years older than my husband and i look damn good for my age. Yes I had my tubes tied but if my husband wanted a child we would find a way. How dare one woman decide we dont fit. We have been in AP over a year. I have numerous people fighting for us. What couple would stay together this long if not in love? The interviewer actually asked my husband what is the color of the roof on my house. WTH?? He has NEVER been to the US and even my 13 year old couldnt answer that after living in this house his whole life. Something needs to be done with this whole system.


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