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Ana&D
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif
fwaguy
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Same places as always... Kayak, Vayama, Cheaptickets, local travel agent/consolidator... Look through all sources and see what comes up...
Ana&D
QUOTE(fwaguy @ May 28 2008, 01:27 PM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Same places as always... Kayak, Vayama, Cheaptickets, local travel agent/consolidator... Look through all sources and see what comes up...


Thank you kindly, I'm just new at booking international flights online blush.gif . Jus hope he won't end up flying our Aerosvit, cause those guys are truly horrible servicewise. Know from personal experience blink.gif
fwaguy
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:38 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ May 28 2008, 01:27 PM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Same places as always... Kayak, Vayama, Cheaptickets, local travel agent/consolidator... Look through all sources and see what comes up...


Thank you kindly, I'm just new at booking international flights online blush.gif . Jus hope he won't end up flying our Aerosvit, cause those guys are truly horrible servicewise. Know from personal experience blink.gif


I have flown AeroSvit several times... They are not necessarily any worse than some US based airlines.... I speak from personal experience as well being a former airline employee.. smile.gif
Ana&D
QUOTE(fwaguy @ May 28 2008, 01:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:38 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ May 28 2008, 01:27 PM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Same places as always... Kayak, Vayama, Cheaptickets, local travel agent/consolidator... Look through all sources and see what comes up...


Thank you kindly, I'm just new at booking international flights online blush.gif . Jus hope he won't end up flying our Aerosvit, cause those guys are truly horrible servicewise. Know from personal experience blink.gif


I have flown AeroSvit several times... They are not necessarily any worse than some US based airlines.... I speak from personal experience as well being a former airline employee.. smile.gif


I must be spoiled then innocent.gif Most of my trips to U.S. were during college and I fully took advantage of ISIC student discount, flying mostly British Airways half price... Therefore you can understand my feelings while on Aerosvit flight past December smile.gif. Well, he flew Delta last time and it seemed ok... Plus they have that direct flight JFK-KBP
1HappyGuy
You just have to get use to the higher costs now. My stepson is flying to Kyiv in July. Even though we bought his tickets in February we still had to pay almost $1,800 for his roundtrip from San Francisco to Kyiv. At least the international flights are still serving meals. I have a six hour domestic flight next week, San Francisco to Boston that has no meal. Pretty soon they'll be charging us extra for the air they supply on the plane.

zqt3344
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif



Try this place in Detroit, aatravelinc.com, it is run by Ukrainians and Russians, and they can somehow find pretty good prices on flights to Kiev usually. Also if you look for tickets go online and search late tuesday (12 am)nights up until thursday nights late at 12am, airlines normally cut rates in half during those days of the week for sale. Otherwise Friday through Tuesday afternoon you pay out the A _ _ ! There are two ladies in aatravelinc, check with Oksana or Galina.

DO NOT FLY AEROSPIT! IT IS HORRIBLE and TRULY SUCKS, you were warned, stay away from them.

I would try flying 1) Lufthansa 2)Austrian Airlines 3) KLM 4)British Airways 5)United 6)Delta 7)Ukrainian Air into Ukraine at Kiev, these listed are usually with lowest prices and on time unlike Aeropsit!

Bad thing for you is that anyone flying to Ukraine from starting in March to August usually has to pay double or triple what you can at other times of the year. Usually when I go in Summer months even with booking in advance it is always double the price or more, sometimes lowest price is found flying during tuesday through thursday, and stay away from flying in on a weekend when the rates are much higher. Good luck.
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Ana&D
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 12:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif



Try this place in Detroit, aatravelinc.com, it is run by Ukrainians and Russians, and they can somehow find pretty good prices on flights to Kiev usually. Also if you look for tickets go online and search late tuesday (12 am)nights up until thursday nights late at 12am, airlines normally cut rates in half during those days of the week for sale. Otherwise Friday through Tuesday afternoon you pay out the A _ _ ! There are two ladies in aatravelinc, check with Oksana or Galina.

DO NOT FLY AEROSPIT! IT IS HORRIBLE and TRULY SUCKS, you were warned, stay away from them.

I would try flying 1) Lufthansa 2)Austrian Airlines 3) KLM 4)British Airways 5)United 6)Delta 7)Ukrainian Air into Ukraine at Kiev, these listed are usually with lowest prices and on time unlike Aeropsit!

Bad thing for you is that anyone flying to Ukraine from starting in March to August usually has to pay double or triple what you can at other times of the year. Usually when I go in Summer months even with booking in advance it is always double the price or more, sometimes lowest price is found flying during tuesday through thursday, and stay away from flying in on a weekend when the rates are much higher. Good luck.
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Wow, thanks a lot for info, especially for times to book! Will def. pass it all to my fiance! And I did warn him bout Aerosvit, since my last inboud flight from JFK was with them, and it truly sucked. My personal favourite is British Airways, service is great and they have flight directly from Orlando to Kiev through London, with an option to see UK's capital smile.gif.
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Well, it depends how you want to fly.
If you want to purchase airfare from Ukraine to USA, you could use Expedia or Travelocity.
But if you want to purchase airfare from USA to Ukraine, it depends what city you want to fly from. If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA. But if your departure city is Detroit, Chicago, Indianapolis, and other cities further from the East coast, it it better to use following websites:
http://www.fare-shopper.com/
http://www.aatravelinc.com/
http://www.nedorogo.com/
http://www.travelpapa.com/

All these websites are using the same search engine so you do not have to research all of them. The cost is the same on all of them and it is significantly cheaper then other websites.
If your destination in Ukraine is other than Kiev, use aerosvit website for the ukrainian internal flights or you could use autoluks bus:
http://www.autolux.ua/russian/schedule
Goodluck

Dmitriy
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 10:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Well, it depends how you want to fly.
If you want to purchase airfare from Ukraine to USA, you could use Expedia or Travelocity.
But if you want to purchase airfare from USA to Ukraine, it depends what city you want to fly from. If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA. But if your departure city is Detroit, Chicago, Indianapolis, and other cities further from the East coast, it it better to use following websites:
http://www.fare-shopper.com/
http://www.aatravelinc.com/
http://www.nedorogo.com/
http://www.travelpapa.com/

All these websites are using the same search engine so you do not have to research all of them. The cost is the same on all of them and it is significantly cheaper then other websites.
If your destination in Ukraine is other than Kiev, use aerosvit website for the ukrainian internal flights or you could use autoluks bus:
http://www.autolux.ua/russian/schedule
Goodluck

Dmitriy


NWA does not fly out of JFK to any European destination.... It might be Delta in disguise.
Ana&D
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 11:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Well, it depends how you want to fly.
If you want to purchase airfare from Ukraine to USA, you could use Expedia or Travelocity.
But if you want to purchase airfare from USA to Ukraine, it depends what city you want to fly from. If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA. But if your departure city is Detroit, Chicago, Indianapolis, and other cities further from the East coast, it it better to use following websites:
http://www.fare-shopper.com/
http://www.aatravelinc.com/
http://www.nedorogo.com/
http://www.travelpapa.com/

All these websites are using the same search engine so you do not have to research all of them. The cost is the same on all of them and it is significantly cheaper then other websites.
If your destination in Ukraine is other than Kiev, use aerosvit website for the ukrainian internal flights or you could use autoluks bus:
http://www.autolux.ua/russian/schedule
Goodluck

Dmitriy



Dmitriy, spasibo smile.gif

Will forward those webpages to Dave, see what he finds in terms of airfare...
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 11:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 10:27 AM) *
QUOTE(Ana&D @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) *
My fiance is planning to visit me really soon here in Ukraine (YAY kicking.gif ). Since flight prices has gone up significantly since his last visit in January, any idea where we can find cheeper fairs? Any advice will be appreciated! innocent.gif


Well, it depends how you want to fly.
If you want to purchase airfare from Ukraine to USA, you could use Expedia or Travelocity.
But if you want to purchase airfare from USA to Ukraine, it depends what city you want to fly from. If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA. But if your departure city is Detroit, Chicago, Indianapolis, and other cities further from the East coast, it it better to use following websites:
http://www.fare-shopper.com/
http://www.aatravelinc.com/
http://www.nedorogo.com/
http://www.travelpapa.com/

All these websites are using the same search engine so you do not have to research all of them. The cost is the same on all of them and it is significantly cheaper then other websites.
If your destination in Ukraine is other than Kiev, use aerosvit website for the ukrainian internal flights or you could use autoluks bus:
http://www.autolux.ua/russian/schedule
Goodluck

Dmitriy


NWA does not fly out of JFK to any European destination.... It might be Delta in disguise.


You might be surprised but it does. The merge between NWA and Delta is not completed yet. So NWA are still partners with KLM Dutch Airlines. They fly from Detroit and New York to Amsterdam. From Amsterdam to Kiev the KLM Airlines will be used.
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
You might be surprised but it does. The merge between NWA and Delta is not completed yet. So NWA are still partners with KLM Dutch Airlines. They fly from Detroit and New York to Amsterdam. From Amsterdam to Kiev the KLM Airlines will be used.


As an former NWA emplyee I still stand by my statement... NWA does NOT fly JFK to KBP... however, KLM does but as you mention via AMS... Air France (via CDG), Lufthansa (via FRA), British Airways (Via LHR) all do as well but NOT direct... The only direct flights are AeroSvit and Delta.
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:07 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
You might be surprised but it does. The merge between NWA and Delta is not completed yet. So NWA are still partners with KLM Dutch Airlines. They fly from Detroit and New York to Amsterdam. From Amsterdam to Kiev the KLM Airlines will be used.


As an former NWA emplyee I still stand by my statement... NWA does NOT fly JFK to KBP... however, KLM does but as you mention via AMS... Air France (via CDG), Lufthansa (via FRA), British Airways (Via LHR) all do as well but NOT direct... The only direct flights are AeroSvit and Delta.


I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.


Hmmmm.......

QUOTE
If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA.


Out of JFK you will not depart on a NWA aircraft for an international flight.
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:19 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.


Hmmmm.......

QUOTE
If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA.


Out of JFK you will not depart on a NWA aircraft for an international flight.



Please see attachment...
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:19 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.


Hmmmm.......

QUOTE
If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA.


Out of JFK you will not depart on a NWA aircraft for an international flight.



Please see attachment
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:37 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:19 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.


Hmmmm.......

QUOTE
If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA.


Out of JFK you will not depart on a NWA aircraft for an international flight.



Please see attachment...


Thank you for proving my point.... Out of JFK you do not depart on an NWA aircraft on an international flight.
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:44 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:37 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:19 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I did not say that NWA flies directly to Kiev. In my previous statement I said they fly to Amsterdam. And then their partner KLM Airlines are used from Amsterdam to Kiev.


Hmmmm.......

QUOTE
If you depart from New York, you could use Aerosvit, Delta or NWA.


Out of JFK you will not depart on a NWA aircraft for an international flight.



Please see attachment...


Thank you for proving my point.... Out of JFK you do not depart on an NWA aircraft on an international flight.



You probably know that having origin departure in North America you can not purchase airfare directly from KLM due to the partner's agreement between NWA and KLM. It does not make any difference whose crew operates the aircraft. The fact is that airfare is purchased via NWA. However, if you purchase the same tickets only with original departure point at Europe, it will be purchased via KLM
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM) *
You probably know that having origin departure in North America you can not purchase airfare directly from KLM due to the partner's agreement between NWA and KLM. It does not make any difference whose crew operates the aircraft. The fact is that airfare is purchased via NWA. However, if you purchase the same tickets only with original departure point at Europe, it will be purchased via KLM


Maybe so that was never the issue ... go back to post #10 and beyond and see what was being said....
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 02:02 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM) *
You probably know that having origin departure in North America you can not purchase airfare directly from KLM due to the partner's agreement between NWA and KLM. It does not make any difference whose crew operates the aircraft. The fact is that airfare is purchased via NWA. However, if you purchase the same tickets only with original departure point at Europe, it will be purchased via KLM


Maybe so that was never the issue ... go back to post #10 and beyond and see what was being said....



Exactly it was not the issue. Please go back to the question "… any idea WHERE we can find cheeper fairs?" Please, notice, the questions was not "WHO is flying cheaper". The questions was "WHERE". In my post #9 I mentioned some websites and some aircraft websites WHERE the tickets can be found. So was my statement wrong???
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 02:02 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM) *
You probably know that having origin departure in North America you can not purchase airfare directly from KLM due to the partner's agreement between NWA and KLM. It does not make any difference whose crew operates the aircraft. The fact is that airfare is purchased via NWA. However, if you purchase the same tickets only with original departure point at Europe, it will be purchased via KLM


Maybe so that was never the issue ... go back to post #10 and beyond and see what was being said....



Exactly it was not the issue. Please go back to the question "… any idea WHERE we can find cheeper fairs?" Please, notice, the questions was not "WHO is flying cheaper". The questions was "WHERE". In my post #9 I mentioned some websites and some aircraft websites WHERE the tickets can be found. So was my statement wrong???


No... I simply made an add on comment about NWA not being the international carrier out of JFK (even if tickets were purchased on the NWA website) because NWA does not fly internationally out of JFK.

What I did not understand about your post #9 is why you limited the options to AeroSvit, Delta and NWA for service out of JFK. Certainly Lufthansa, BA, Air France, and others are options as well... Certainly a meta search engine would broaden ones possibilities not only for other cities but JFK as well.
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 02:31 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 02:02 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 PM) *
You probably know that having origin departure in North America you can not purchase airfare directly from KLM due to the partner's agreement between NWA and KLM. It does not make any difference whose crew operates the aircraft. The fact is that airfare is purchased via NWA. However, if you purchase the same tickets only with original departure point at Europe, it will be purchased via KLM


Maybe so that was never the issue ... go back to post #10 and beyond and see what was being said....



Exactly it was not the issue. Please go back to the question "… any idea WHERE we can find cheeper fairs?" Please, notice, the questions was not "WHO is flying cheaper". The questions was "WHERE". In my post #9 I mentioned some websites and some aircraft websites WHERE the tickets can be found. So was my statement wrong???


No... I simply made an add on comment about NWA not being the international carrier out of JFK (even if tickets were purchased on the NWA website) because NWA does not fly internationally out of JFK.

What I did not understand about your post #9 is why you limited the options to AeroSvit, Delta and NWA for service out of JFK. Certainly Lufthansa, BA, Air France, and others are options as well... Certainly a meta search engine would broaden ones possibilities not only for other cities but JFK as well.



I do not even know how to answer your question... Have you ever heard from your fiancee word "ZANUDA"? laughing.gif
fwaguy
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:55 PM) *
I do not even know how to answer your question... What question? Is it not obvious that your reply was very short sighted

Have you ever heard from your fiancee word "ZANUDA"? laughing.gif I think my wife would have an issue if I had a fiancee
Natalya-Dmitriy
QUOTE(fwaguy @ Jun 24 2008, 03:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Natalya-Dmitriy @ Jun 24 2008, 01:55 PM) *
I do not even know how to answer your question... What question? Is it not obvious that your reply was very short sighted

Have you ever heard from your fiancee word "ZANUDA"? laughing.gif I think my wife would have an issue if I had a fiancee




Your question in your post #22". Look, I do not see what you are trying to prove here. To me it does not make any difference if you have a wife or fiancée, same as if it was NWA or KLM. The question was asked and I answered it based on MY FLYING EXPERIECE! Not on YOURS! On MINE!!!!!
If I never flu with "BA, Air France, and others" why would I even mention it if I do not know? I answer only what I know. If you consider my reply shortsighted due to the fact that I do not want to say "I have heard anonymous say …" it is your rights to think so. But my rights are to finish this useless discussion with you. Good luck to you!
fwaguy
Your the one with your "undies" in a bunch...

Your the one who misread the post .....
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