Just wondering what you think?

Eh, that quote from Oblahma shows that he tops "W" in ignorance.

Afghans don't speak Arabic because they aren't Arabs.

Another 200+ statements like that and then we might venture to say he tops "tops 'W' in ignorance."

And let's not pretend all presidential nominees have not demonstrated ignorance at one point or another...such as John McCain's "You've stumped me" response when asked, "Do condoms help prevent the transmission of AIDS?"

Just wondering what everyone thinks.

they speak different languages so I voted. Yes

well, I am shocked that someone would be so stupid to ask this. the translators that speak arabic are better suited for iraq because it is used more in iraq than in afghanistan. I speak from experience from having been deployed to both countries. Iraq is mostly an arabic speaking country, Afghanistan is split between pashtu, farsi, arabic, and taliban. But the terrorist in both countries understand arabic because all forms of arabic stim from arabic. Obama probally forgot what form of language is spoken in Afghanistan since he was only in the region when he was young. Obama should know better due to the fact that he attended an extremist muslim school in his younger years. so you be the judge if you think what country they are better used in

I voted NO also. I support your answer kiddie.

No matter how many times you spread that internet lie, it won't make it any more true...


HE NEVER ATTENDED A RADICAL MUSLIM SCHOOL

CNN Reporter: I've Been to Madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and Obama's Indonesian Elementary School Is Nothing Like That. On January 22, CNN Reporter John Vause reported, "I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta, looking for what some are calling an Islamic Madrassa, like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan.. I've been to those Madrassas in Pakistan and Wolf, this school is nothing like that." [CNN, Situation Room, 1/22/07]

Indonesian Embassy Says That Besuki School Attended by Barack Obama "Has Never Been an Islamic Madrassah Type of School." A letter from the Indonesian Embassy stated that "Sekolah Dasar Negeri Besuki in Menteng, Jakarta, Indonesia has always been a public school. It has never been an Islamic madrassa type of school." [Letter From Ambassador Sudjadnan Parnohadiningrat to Senator Barack Obama, 1/25/07]

Time's Joe Klein: Attacks On Obama's Elementary School Are "Laughable" Given the Moderate Form of Islam Practiced in Indonesia, Especially in Those Days." Time's Joe Klein wrote, "The effort to slime Barack Obama has begun in the slimiest possible way." Describing attacks on Obama's elementary school, Klein wrote, "Now, this is nonsense of course. Obama's stepfather was not a Muslim extremist (among other things, he worked for Shell Oil). Obama attended public school for two years in Indonesia, in addition to the two years he spent in catholic schools--although, as Obama's staff points out, Indonesia is a Muslim country, so the public schools undoubtedly reflect the dominant relgious culture. The notion that the Obama's school was a Wahabi madrasa is laughable, given the moderate form of Islam practiced in Indonesia, especially in those days." [Time Blog, 1/22/07]





OBAMA IS A PRACTICING CHRISTIAN

Obama Has Been A Member Of Trinity United Church Of Christ For Twenty Years. Monroe Anderson stands up for Reverend Wright's ministry, "For the past two decades, Barack Obama has been a faithful member of the congregation at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ." [<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20070325/ai_n18757010">Chicago Sun-Times, Monroe Anderson, 3/25/07]

no country will ever admit that a school is radical. you are listening to the clinton news network that is fully supporting dems and cares nothing more than spreading democratic views to everyone.

I wasn't aware that "taliban" was a language

There is no "America needs to mind it's own business and leave other countries alone" option so I couldn't vote.

There is hardly any Arabic spoken in Afghanistan or Pakistan .........each locality has its own form of URDU......for example in Multan Pakistan they speak a different dialect of the Urdu......then when u get closer to the mountian area u hear a lot of pashtun (not sure of the spelling on that one)....the only Arabic i have really heard there in that area is when they are reading their holy Books........as u head toward Kashmir Pakistan and India u hear URDU and also Kashmiri......there are so many different languages spoken in the area of Pakistan Afghanistan and the Kashmir of Pakistan and India but most come back to the URDU as the basic language spoken .......how ever there are very educated people that are able to speak Arabic..or Arabs that have migrated to those areas they do speak Arabic but also speak the local dialect ...but it is not the language that is spoken for the most part........Iraq would be a better place to send the Arabic translators......................

What ever floats your boat. Thank God enough voters aren't that irrational and will vote Obama as our next President. You can count on that.

Did Obama really say that? WTF..................who the hell is advising him on Foreign Policy. FFS

The federal government would get a lot more qualified Arabic "translators" if they'd get a clue and realize that what they're looking for are INTERPRETERS. No interpreter worth their credentials will work for an employer so clueless as to think they're a "translator." I'm serious. I've known Arabic interpreters who have actually said, calling them translators shows the government is clueless about what they're actually looking for, and if they miss something so big, how likely is it they'll know about what the job actually entails?

Oh, and of course they should stay in Iraq unless there's an actual shortage in Afghanistan, which I suppose there may be for things like analysis of international television broadcasts.

Donny...don't tell me you're another of Limbaugh's ditto heads who doesn't bother to check his sources before accepting what that bloated fat bastard says?


You probably missed these facts.

The ABCNews.com Political Radar blog said of Obama's statement in a May 13 post that "Obama posited -- incorrectly -- that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan -- forgetting, momentarily, that Afghans don't speak Arabic." In responding to the post, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton reportedly said that "[t]his poorly researched and written piece is inaccurate in that it just completely ignores the need for Arabic translators in Afghanistan" and noted the presence of foreign fighters in Afghanistan, including those from "various Arab countries," as The New York Times reported in October 2007. In addition, during a report on the January 18, 2002, edition of PBS' NewsHour, correspondent Spencer Michels reported that "U.S. intelligence agencies and the military have been scrambling to hire or train speakers of Middle Eastern languages like Arabic, Farsi, and Pashto, all languages spoken in Afghanistan."

Further, contrary to Limbaugh's assertion that Obama "ma[de] up a couple languages that they speak" in Afghanistan, Urdu is spoken there, and Pashtu or Pashto is one of the official languages of the country.

Moreover, when Sen. John McCain made the admittedly false claim at a March 18 press conference in Jordan that Iranian operatives are "taking [i]al-Qaeda[/i] into Iran, training them and sending them back," Limbaugh downplayed the misstatement as "this little -- this gaffe." Indeed, on the March 21 edition of his show, a caller asked, "McCain was wrong? McCain was not wrong." Limbaugh responded, "It doesn't matter whether McCain's right or wrong. This is what the Democrats do. They're going to try to attack. And Obama's desperately trying to change the subject, and he's trying to make it look like he's already won the nomination. So, he's focusing on McCain, who is the presumptive Republican nominee. It's -- and he knows the drive-bys are going to carry his water. He knows the drive-bys will then go to McCain and play this little -- this gaffe up and so forth."


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So if you're going to by gaffes on foreign affairs, McCain's got the lead.

Are you sure about that?



(at about 3:15.... I'd like to know what exactly is "American" that didn't come from some other culture? The only "American" culture that is truly "American" is corruption and immorality IMHO and all other "American" culture has come here from the immigrants who have brought it here with them when they came..... anyway, that's off topic)





Personally I think it's insane to vote (or not vote) for a person based on their race and, while I'm not surprised, I am sad that racism is still this prevalent in the US.
I do, however, understand religion being an issue with voters and feel it's fair for them to consider the religion (core beliefs that a person follows in their everyday life) of a man as a factor in whether they should vote for him or not.
BTW, I do not believe Obama is muslim and would actually go so far as to say that I'd be concered that he has a deep-seated hatred of muslim men since two of them apparently abandoned him and his mom in his lifetime. Nonetheless, he supports Isreal's right to terrorize the Palestinian ppl and has stated his intention to continue funding Isreali terrorism and that is enough, on its on, to lose my vote.

Here's another one LOL

Steven,

I seen it for myself on the news not anywhere else. Of course the spokesman for the Obama campaign is going to come out and try to smooth it over. The point is that Barack Obama is clueless on foreign policy and many other subjects I might add. Have you also noticed that he only sounds brilliant when reading off a teleprompter, when he speaks off the cuff he sounds like a complete idiot.

My biggest fear is that after four years of George W. Bush butchering the English language, the #1 qualification the American people are looking for in a President is a person that deliver a good speech. Even if what he says in that speech is absolute garbage.

But it took Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan, It may take a Barack Obama to give us a good conservative President. Not a John McCain.

The worst gaffe that we could commit as a people is to betray our own country. Which actually was part of the Islamic extremist overall plan from the beginning. They knew that if we tried to fight them that the left-wing in our country would side against their own country and be their biggest supporters.

They were 100% correct!

Nah man. That's total dogshit.

It is true #6. You are living proof!

It happened during Vietnam and it is happening now.

Living proof of... what... exactly? That you're so irrational that you equate a democratic dialog over this country's foreign policy strategy with treason and mutiny?

How ignorant.

Sure. Because Vietnam was such a f*cking great idea to begin with.

Perhaps what you should be more concerned with is rogue leaders railroading the country down a bad road with no clear way out at the end of it.

no.

Once your country commits to war it is treason not to see it though. There is only two sides in a war. People that want your side to win and people that want your side to lose. Unfortunately, you are one that wants my country to lose. That makes you subversive to the well being of my country. You come to my country to live and enjoy the blessings that are granted to you here, yet you actively work to undermine my country at the same time. Are you with us or against us? It's only Black and White. Quit trying to hide in the gray that does not exist. I feel this makes you weak and cowardly. Real men don't try to hide in a nuance.

The democratic dialog only is legitimate until the boots of our armed forces are deployed in war on foreign soil. Once this happens the only honorable position is to support your country to as speedy victory as possible.

What if half way through WW2 we decided it was too hard and gave England to Germany, would you have been ok with that? Oh, that is right your perspective does not extend back that far.

Your 30 that makes your total years are a mature thinking man about 6 years. It takes a man until he is 24 to even be fully matured. You will see the truth one of these years. It will take at least another 5 to 10 to get some real life under your belt.

But then again some never mature.

Well what can I say really...

It takes a certain kind of mentality to frame everything in terms of absolutes.

Then again totalitarian attitudes seem to be pretty common among the uneducated, the ignorant and the vicious.

I am actually a quite kind, gentle and generous person. I also hunger for knowledge on a constant daily basis. Uneducated, hardly.

I do know in life there two absolutes: Right and Wrong, Good and Evil.

After 12 years of corruption and bungling at the UN, The war in Iraq was right because we were left no other option by the diplomats.

Saddam Hussein was evil that deserved to be eliminated from this earth, again the diplomats just lined their pockets at the world's and the Iraqi people's expense.

What you can say is that you stand for right over wrong and good over evil.

Sure. And for all your knowledge seeking you trotted out a bunch of stale, stereotypical neocon rhetoric. Uneducated? Totally. If you weren't - you'd be able to frame your own ideas without recourse to that bunch of smelly old dickweed.

As for kind and generous - you have pretty much labelled me as a traitor on a premise that is entirely spurious. Not to mention totally dishonest.

First, NeoCon stands for Neo-Conservative, Which means "new conservative". I am by no means a "new" conservative. NeoCons are typically former Democrats that have come to the conservative movement because of their "hawkish" positions on the military, not being true fiscal conservative. Hence big bloated budgets.

Second, These are my own ideas that I have been cultivating in my own mind since I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984, my first presidential election. The contrast between the 30 years of liberal and socialist economic stagnation and just a mere 4 years of application of free market principles was glaring. Jimmy Carter's weak foreign policies that strengthened dictators and oppressors of human rights and freedom around the world and Reagan's "Peace through Strength" that ended the stalemate of the cold war that people on the left could never even dream of happening. Who talked of "just getting along" with the communist system, no matter how destructive it was to the people that suffered under it and the peace of the world as a whole. I would say many on the left actually idealized the communist system and would have preferred it to our own, for the power and control it wielded over the people. Which is really the basis of the socialism, making people do things that they would not naturally do or choose for themselves. All in the guise of compassion and equality. Just ask the people of the former Soviet Union how compassionate their government was. Or how about Burma? Or Cuba? When they cry for joy just to get some food to live another day. Equal misery is the always the result. But like I said you are to young to know from direct experience, You only know what some left-wing professor indoctrinated into your brain.

Third, I only judge your character by the rhetoric that you spew on a daily basis.

You have my pity and my prayers.

You can shove your prayers and your pity in a sack, mate

Whether you're a new conservative or an old one - there's really no difference in this context. nyone who seriously thinks that people talking about a very controversial foreign policy are somehow betraying or undermining their country needs their head examined. Not to mention a nice little black uniform to go with their absolutisms.

I must try to think of the left wing professor who "indoctrinated" me, that's actually pretty funny now that I really think about it. Again its the same stale old paranoic crap tossed about by the talk radio guys. Trotting it out suggests to me that you have clearly never been inside a higher education institution, let alone studied in one.

Suffice today I didn't idolise any of my tutors at university. Not a single one.

That said - there's seems to be no shortage of indoctrinated people in the audiences of Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Billy-boy O'Reilly or Ann Coulter.

Don't forget Bill Buckley!

That would be Nixon.

He and Brezhnev initiated the detente era, well before Carter's presidency.

Are you quite sure? Buckley had some interesting ideas on Iraq. Though none of them (at least the articles I found) involved him throwing around "traitor" labels.

You are clueless to my point. I am not talking about Nixon detente with China and Russia. I am talking about people that thought that their system was the equal of ours and that we should just let them do whatever they want without any checks on their ambitions. As a matter of fact, Jimmy Carter said that he prefers to negotiate with dictators, you only need to talk with one person that way. What an idiot! If left to Jimmy Carter the entire world would devolve into dictatorships. It certainly did under his presidency.

Bill Buckley as an influence on my development as a conservative, not in his specific views on Iraq.

Michael Savage is an extremist, I think he has depression and gives the conservative movement a bad reputation. I know people that think he is great but I don't see it.

Bill O'Reilly is too liberal for me he has moderate views that a don't agree with. Plus he is kind of a cold fish with no sense of humor. But he does have the most watched show on cable news.

Ann Coulter is funny looking and is not very tactful. I do agree with much she has to say, but all in all probably a net minus more then a plus.

Rush Limbaugh is the most entertaining of any person on radio. If you are to rate him on his acumen, he makes you look like a F#@k&%G idiot #6, even when he was high on drugs he could mentally run circles around you.

It's a pity you don't want my sack.

Who are these people you're talking about? Who is idealizing the communist system?

You refer to these nameless "people on the left," while summing up pretty well, in the text I bolded in my previous post, Nixon's (well, Kissinger's, really) approach to the Cold War and relations with the Soviets. To be fair, these agreements did have the desired effect, but I don't believe that Nixon and his advisers had the welfare of the Soviet population as their motivator.

Hmmm... If Rush Limbaugh "makes me look like F#@k&%G idiot" makes you feel better about your choice of hero, don't let me stop you.

The fact remains that tossing around accusations of treason makes you a whacked out nutjob. You have to have a lot of brass face to say something like that... but then again... its not like the words, or even the idea itself are yours are they? Its that same smelly old dogshit from talk radio.

All gut and no brain. Again.

Men. Of straw.

Ah, there is my patrician sack boy. I am not going to call you Number 6 anymore, I am going to refer to you as Patricia, because all the world is beneath you.

All gut and no brain makes me one up on you!

Just let me know when you want me to whip out that sack Patricia.

They are the same people on the left that to this day idealize Castro's Cuba, I don't know how many times I hear about how wonderful the health care system in Cuba is. How about Michael Moore of "Sicko" Fame, there is a name for you. Or the the legislation in the 80's preventing any U.S. help for the Contras in Nicaragua. John Kerry there is another name for you. When he first was elected to the U. S. Senate he had a hand in blocking aid to the Contras. It is about the only thing he has ever had a hand in the U. S Senate. What a piece of work that guy is. So these people are not nameless I just don't care to waste my time naming them. We all know who they are.

As far as Nixon goes I have many problems with him without even getting to Watergate. He expanded the US government even more than the Dem's did. Meeting with China and Russia was only an ice breaker. In the end what Reagan did with Russia was successful, what happened with China and leaving the communist in charge while they only adopted our economic system may have been a mistake. All the money to back there oppression the people. We had a glimmer of a chance at Tienanmen Square, but it was extinguished. Now they may rule the world.

It does? Interesting set of priorities you have there.

Then again freaks who masturbate to Rush Limbaugh are nothing new.