Great question... prior to our marriage my husband and I agreed on several things this was one of them.. not only is he supposed to wear lose fitting clothing from waist to knee but a shirt too. He thought it was weird how I asked that of him when to me it made perfect sense. He couldn't imagine we women would be or could be attracted to a bare chested man. I replied and what about my bare arms could attract a man??? He conceded.

But again that was one of our "agreements" we made prior to marriage. We also have a "hijab" behavior we follow the both of us.

grrrrrrrrrrrreat question VW!!!

lol Thanks.. it's silly but did the trick.

True so true...I find that if a wife is going to cover completely, her husband should display his modesty too...cover up as well - doesn't have to wear a head garment, but he should be covered from neck to toe. He should make himself the most presentable as possible. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

As you all know, we're not Muslim, but oddly enough, my husband and I try to dress similarly for all occasions. If I want to wear sneakers or jeans, he will too. Whenever we have any festive party, whatever it is...we always dress accordingly. I also try never to wear anything revealing, nothing low-cut, nothing that he would find objectionable. I actually find that by doing this, it keeps things very peaceful in our home. Also, I never really wear any makeup except for lipgloss to keep the lips hydrated - I prefer the natural look. There is one thing that I do enjoy that my husband does regularly - he loves cologne and I like that.

You're welcome...and it's not silly, sometimes we just need to feel like a woman again.

He cuts all his flippin curls off!!!!
You're right though and this ticks me off about a lot of men.... you'll see women covered up head to toe at the store and her husband wearing shorts and tight tank tops! That really gets my goat!
My hubby doesn't wear shorts outside, even though most of his shorts come below his knee anyway. When I asked him why he doesn't wear the long shorts outside he said because it isn't fair to me when I'm all covered up and he's in shorts. He also wouldn't be caught dead outside or in front of anyone other me with no shirt or in a shirt with no sleeves. He also doesn't wear short shirts anymore because I gets jealous
He likes to wear his traditional clothes and I like when he does but he's shy to wear it in public here unless we're going to the masjid. I guess he's scared the American men will tease him about wearing a dress....
He also leaves his beard and doesn't shave.

agreed!

my habibi is a typical moroccan (from my understanding) lol so some days we have a beard others nope.... I love it when it gets past the "ouchy" phase of his beard and get a little ticked when he shaves but like it smooth too...

I can't stand mine to shave.... he used to before he got here but he stopped once he was here because he knows I hate it. He's made it into a goatee once since he's been here and I was like.... ummmm NO so now it's back to a full beard.

My husband knew his limits n always covers Alhamdulillah.

I want to add i cover becoz my body belongs to me no one has the privilage of looking at it.. it makes me know what im worth and gives me self-respect so even if my husband doesnt care i wd ve still covered Alhamdulillah.

I have sleeves and thin t-shirt I found at Target... but I have to have the thin white at work for the uniform, but I can't just wear a thin white longsleeved t-shirt, it's really not modest and defeats the purpose. So sleeves with a pink or light colored shirt work really well under my chef's coat and the double layered shirt plus jacket is just too hot.

I do need ones that go over the elbows though

I'm too tired to look tonight, but inshalla will find something tomorrow

btw: My husband dresses modestly also with t-shirts and sleeves and rarely wears shorts (only to the beach) and those go past his knees anyway. It sucks swiming in pants eta I've done it...

One point I would like to make is that hijab is not only for the outside but also its an inside thing too. The modesty in what a Muslimah wears is not only for outside but what she wears in her heart and intentions.

It took me about four years after I became muslim to wear hijab. Then after I divorced my husband and many things happened I went through a time that I did not wear it. Now I have chosen to start wearing it again.

I agree that men also should dress modestly , no tight clothes and so on.

One post was about men and that they should not be so weak and they too have a responsability not to look at the women so cladly dressed. Yes, true. However who knows better than Allah how men can be. They are weak in many ways and also as Muslim women we go to our kids school, some work, and go to stores , parks etc. So there are far more non muslim men who dont care if they look so we should gaurd our modesty as well because of that. So many times I read or hear women talking about how they get harrassed or men come on to them in the work place. However these same women are wearing tight clothes, legs showing , breasts hanging so what should one expect? And honestly our whole society teaches young girls to be "sexy" in they way they act, dress and present themselves.

Another thing that gets me is why people makes such a big deal , in the west when someone is in hijab I mean its funny that if I am in hijab and someone next to me is in shorts and tank top I am the one who stands out . Ill never forget how the news stations made such a BIG deal when Laura Bush wore a scarf on her head in Saudi, when she was talking to women there about breast cancer. Yet the same people dont mind if their daughters walk on the beach in a bikini .

So as Muslim women some wear the hijab and yet they dont have pure hearts, the backbite, show off thier wealth and have a sense of false pride, And some women who dont wear hijab have sincere hearts, pure souls . Its a whole package and I am the weakest of all sometime.However I keep wearing my hijab hoping it will give me strength to remind me of who I am. And in the end I beleive for me its what Allah tells us. But to make a big deal over covering your head and forget that there are so many other things that need to imporve in our Umah is not something I will do. There are alot of other issues more important to me. Hijab in this country has to come from your strength and desire to wear it.

Salam

I really like the way you said that.. Alhumdulillah..

Well said......

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2x

lol..... so I got this new job... and I am working with a bunch of youngens that like to party and drink and date/sleep with the opposite sex. While it's still a new job I hate hearing this stuff.

any suggestions?

hmm a couple of funny things that happened on our trip to california........my mom smokes.....at Disney land she found the smoking area and was setting enjoying her smoking.........dont seem like such a bad thing right lol well this man came and sat down next to her and lit his cig.......took a couple of puffs turned to her and said.........sister ur in full hijab u can not set here and smoke.....my mom turned to him and said brother show me where it says in our book that u or i either one can smoke or not smoke.........he looked at her and said well ur suppose to behave in public where u dont draw attention she said to him if that was the case brother i would not be sitting in full hijab talking to u now would i?......he kind of laughed at that finally he said u have a point anyone in hijab in the usa is drawing attention she said yes so just kindly shut up and smoke and let me enjoy mine.....they got along great after that had a long talks while smoking ( we like to never got on our rides waiting for her to finish)

the other thing was i myself was asked so many questions........one very timid lady came to me and said can i ask u some questions about ur head cover is said of course with a big smile for her she said dont u get so hot under that.......i looked at her and saw that she was also sweating from the heat there ......i told her very honestly u know it does get hot but the difference is after sweating like ur doing i stay cool because the material has become some damp so any breeze i pick up allows me to feel cooler.........she thought about that for a few minutes the next time i saw her she had a cloth wetted down and tied around her neck and head lol

i cant even count how many times i was asked what part of the middle east we come from i always responded oh we come for the west as in the state of OREGON confused them alot lol

An Ipod?

lol... now I lost my ability to have a smily face : (

This conversation about what your husbands can do to make themselves more modest/less attractive is making me laugh.

The reason is women are so different regarding how we find the opposite sex to be attractive. Some women may love a beard. Men will oogle women in a totally different way. For me, I don't like it when my husband shaves his goatee, but others say he looks much better without it.

I don't think the hijab rule could really apply to a man, for them I think its all about actions.

In Islam, the hijab rule applies to both. They have to cover themselves from, at the very least, navel to knees. The beard is also a must (some don't agree... depends on your school of thought I guess).
They also have to lower their gaze and not mix unnecessarily with non related women as a part of modesty.

IMHO, the fact that some women find beards attractive is not a reason for men not to wear them.... some men find women in hijab attractive.... there are veil-fetish-perverts all over the web! but that doesn't mean women shouldn't wear it. (eta: the mad face is for the perverts not you lol)

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In Islam, the hijab rule applies to both. They have to cover themselves from, at the very least, navel to knees. The beard is also a must (some don't agree... depends on your school of thought I guess).
They also have to lower their gaze and not mix unnecessarily with non related women as a part of modesty.

IMHO, the fact that some women find beards attractive is not a reason for men not to wear them.... some men find women in hijab attractive.... there are veil-fetish-perverts all over the web! but that doesn't mean women shouldn't wear it. (eta: the mad face is for the perverts not you lol)
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So, why would the beard be considered a must? There are alot of muslim men who either dont know that or dont believe that and what happens if they dont have a beard? and surely all men should lower their gaze but unfortuneately that doesnt happen all that often. I cant stand seeing a man staring at a woman so hard that their eyeballs crawl out and follow her ! And it happens in all cultures and religions!

lol, I just asked my husband to shave his beard tonight. I hadn't seen him on the camera for days and then I saw him today and it got really thick. Neither of us agree with the school of thought saying he must wear a beard. I prefer him without it and I think he looks better without it. I don't mind if he keeps a very light one though and his mustach is fine as well as a gotee. I just hate a thick beard on him. He is happy to shave it for me if it makes me happy. I noticed in all the pics before he met me that he didn't have a beard so it is normal for him to not have one. He was just being lazy about shaving it recently.

I like it when mine keeps his beard short but trimmed and long enough so it dosent scratch....I also like it when he is freshly shaved too..lol

Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh,

Does everyone know about HUDA TV online? http://www.huda.tv/defaultN.aspx?rt=15

wow, ma'sha Allah that is a great site. I have just been sitting her listening and it is so nice. Thankyou for sharing it with us. Inshallah in the future I will continue to make use of this site.

You can watch Peace TV online too.... http://www.guidedways.com/islamictv.php They actually have a few channels there but some times when I go there I find the USA and UK channels in Arabic too.

Thanks, I'm still listening to the first one, lol. I will check those out though!

cool I am certainly interested... thank you Alhamdulilah
Rajaa

I'm doing some Islamic trivia and need some help. Who was the last Sahaba to die? If anyone could help on that answer I would appreciate it.

sorry i dont' even know what one of those are???

Sahaba is a companion of the prophet (peace be upon him). I believe I found the answer so its okay.

Well, you gonna share with the rest of us or leave us hanging??? lol

lol, sorry, I didn't know if anyone was interested. Abu Tufayl (may Allah be pleased with him) was the last sahaba to die in the year 110 AH (about 100 years after the prophet-peace be upon him).

wow where did you find this information???

He is referred to as a Sahaba, but was not actually a companion of the Prophet, but a follower of the original Sahaba.

I found it on wiki, but another person doing the trivia backed me up. Here is the link I got it from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahaba

Usually I end up searching the net and trying different key words until I find the answer to questions. I also have many websites with hadiths and information about Sahabas and stories of Islam that I can read and learn from. It really depends on the question as to how I research it.

wow where did you find this information???

On the net: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/alalwani_usulalfiqh/ch3.html

This is another good link as well:

http://www.inter-islam.org/hadeeth/st1.htm

Is there any place I can find the "rules" on Ramadan???

I love Google - here you go...my pre-Ramadan gift to you:

http://www.islamfortoday.com/ramadan01.htm

awwwww Chooookran

I don't know how to say you're welcome in Arabic...so I looked it up - Ala ElRahib Wa ElSaa...or de rien in French.

Afwan is Thank you

I know shukran is thank you. I'm looking for you're welcome.

lol... I didn't know either in ARabic... but did in French funny huh oh and spanish

shokran is thank you
afwan is you're welcome