Hi,
I'm applying to remove conditions on my GC in the next few days, it expires in about 2 weeks. and my husband was my sponsor (I-864). We moved in October 2006 and I sent the AR-11, but didn't know about the I-865 (Sponsor's Notice of Change of Address), I just knew about it now while going through the forum!!!!! Are we going to be fined? Can we still send it now?what should we do????should I send it with my application?? would it effect my application?
I'm truly freaking out right now!!!!
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ok first thing.. calm down ..lol
second.... mail it off now...
third .. you won't be fined...
fourth ... it shouldn't have any effect on your application...
second.... mail it off now...
third .. you won't be fined...
fourth ... it shouldn't have any effect on your application...
You sound so sure which makes me feel a little better! but this should have been sent within 30 days of the move, and we're almost 18 months late!!!hihiih
Well here's why I freaked out:
Penalties:
If the sponsor fails to give notice of a change in his
or her address, as required by 8 U.S.C. 1183a(d) and
8 CFR 213a.3, the sponsor may be liable for the
civil penalty established by 8 U.S.C. 1183a(d). The
amount of the civil penalty will depend on whether
the sponsor failed to give this notice knowing that the
sponsored immigrant(s) have received means- tested
public benefits.
Well here's why I freaked out:
Penalties:
If the sponsor fails to give notice of a change in his
or her address, as required by 8 U.S.C. 1183a(d) and
8 CFR 213a.3, the sponsor may be liable for the
civil penalty established by 8 U.S.C. 1183a(d). The
amount of the civil penalty will depend on whether
the sponsor failed to give this notice knowing that the
sponsored immigrant(s) have received means- tested
public benefits.
I sent mine off late a few times and I wasn't fined or anything..
we also did the same thing, mailed the AR11 but didn't think about my husband (sponsor) having to send in notice too and we were a year at the new address.
I sent in his change of address at the same time as my removal of conditions. On the cover letter of my package, I wrote that I didn't know..blah blah blah and that I have sent his change in. I was concerned that our evidence spanning over two years showed two different addresses. We received an NOA from his address change. We ended up getting an RFE cause of a typo (see my old post) but I'm not sure the RFE wasn't somehow related to the address update as who knows which department processes first.
Anyway, all is well. No fines, no penalties. Sent in my petition in late Sept 07...card received in March 08.
You'll be fine.
I sent in his change of address at the same time as my removal of conditions. On the cover letter of my package, I wrote that I didn't know..blah blah blah and that I have sent his change in. I was concerned that our evidence spanning over two years showed two different addresses. We received an NOA from his address change. We ended up getting an RFE cause of a typo (see my old post) but I'm not sure the RFE wasn't somehow related to the address update as who knows which department processes first.
Anyway, all is well. No fines, no penalties. Sent in my petition in late Sept 07...card received in March 08.
You'll be fine.
QUOTE(wally @ May 21 2008, 06:30 PM) 
we also did the same thing, mailed the AR11 but didn't think about my husband (sponsor) having to send in notice too and we were a year at the new address.
I sent in his change of address at the same time as my removal of conditions. On the cover letter of my package, I wrote that I didn't know..blah blah blah and that I have sent his change in. I was concerned that our evidence spanning over two years showed two different addresses. We received an NOA from his address change. We ended up getting an RFE cause of a typo (see my old post) but I'm not sure the RFE wasn't somehow related to the address update as who knows which department processes first.
Anyway, all is well. No fines, no penalties. Sent in my petition in late Sept 07...card received in March 08.
You'll be fine.
I sent in his change of address at the same time as my removal of conditions. On the cover letter of my package, I wrote that I didn't know..blah blah blah and that I have sent his change in. I was concerned that our evidence spanning over two years showed two different addresses. We received an NOA from his address change. We ended up getting an RFE cause of a typo (see my old post) but I'm not sure the RFE wasn't somehow related to the address update as who knows which department processes first.
Anyway, all is well. No fines, no penalties. Sent in my petition in late Sept 07...card received in March 08.
You'll be fine.
Thank you so much, that sure is relieving!!and congratulations on the Card.
I just filled the form up but I'm still not sure what to write on the cover letter, I'm thinking of sending it tomorrow, a few days before I send my package!
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 21 2008, 05:06 PM)
Hi,
I'm applying to remove conditions on my GC in the next few days, it expires in about 2 weeks. and my husband was my sponsor (I-864). We moved in October 2006 and I sent the AR-11, but didn't know about the I-865 (Sponsor's Notice of Change of Address), I just knew about it now while going through the forum!!!!! Are we going to be fined? Can we still send it now?what should we do????should I send it with my application?? would it effect my application?
I'm truly freaking out right now!!!!
I'm applying to remove conditions on my GC in the next few days, it expires in about 2 weeks. and my husband was my sponsor (I-864). We moved in October 2006 and I sent the AR-11, but didn't know about the I-865 (Sponsor's Notice of Change of Address), I just knew about it now while going through the forum!!!!! Are we going to be fined? Can we still send it now?what should we do????should I send it with my application?? would it effect my application?
I'm truly freaking out right now!!!!
Who cares about your sponsor at this point? The I-864 doesn't figure in the removal of conditions.
quote]
Who cares about your sponsor at this point? The I-864 doesn't figure in the removal of conditions.
[/quote]
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
Who cares about your sponsor at this point? The I-864 doesn't figure in the removal of conditions.
[/quote]
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
No, you will never receive anything from them regarding the AR-11.
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
No, you will never receive anything from them regarding the AR-11.
that is why it is good to send it with delivery confirmation, but you really don't have to mail it in anymore the ar-11 is available to complete online now...
QUOTE(MarilynP @ May 22 2008, 02:40 PM)
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
No, you will never receive anything from them regarding the AR-11.
that is why it is good to send it with delivery confirmation, but you really don't have to mail it in anymore the ar-11 is available to complete online now...
And the online form actually provides a confirmation number along with the information you supplied.
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE(MarilynP @ May 22 2008, 02:40 PM)
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
No, you will never receive anything from them regarding the AR-11.
that is why it is good to send it with delivery confirmation, but you really don't have to mail it in anymore the ar-11 is available to complete online now...
And the online form actually provides a confirmation number along with the information you supplied.
So you guys think I should do it AGAIN online after 18 months?
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:28 PM)
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE(MarilynP @ May 22 2008, 02:40 PM)
QUOTE(jethro @ May 22 2008, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
By the way, I never got anything from USCIS about the AR-11 that I sent when we moved, is it possible that they never got it??wasn't I supposed to receive something from them?
No, you will never receive anything from them regarding the AR-11.
that is why it is good to send it with delivery confirmation, but you really don't have to mail it in anymore the ar-11 is available to complete online now...
And the online form actually provides a confirmation number along with the information you supplied.
So you guys think I should do it AGAIN online after 18 months?
no, if you sent it in already. I wouldn't worry about sending it in again...
I always thought that you have to do change of address only if you have any pending application. By the way, try to inforce the sponsorship agreement in case of divorce...My girlfriend ended up in shelter and lawers told her that in reality it is not inforceble.
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 02:39 PM)
Who cares about your sponsor at this point? The I-864 doesn't figure in the removal of conditions.
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
QUOTE(russian_armenian @ May 23 2008, 05:45 PM)
I always thought that you have to do change of address only if you have any pending application. By the way, try to inforce the sponsorship agreement in case of divorce...My girlfriend ended up in shelter and lawers told her that in reality it is not inforceble.
The I-864 is a binding legal document and is very much enforceable.
nope, up until you become a citizen you need to inform the USCIS of every move you make....
QUOTE(russian_armenian @ May 23 2008, 02:45 PM)
I always thought that you have to do change of address only if you have any pending application. By the way, try to inforce the sponsorship agreement in case of divorce...My girlfriend ended up in shelter and lawers told her that in reality it is not inforceble.
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 22 2008, 02:39 PM)
Who cares about your sponsor at this point? The I-864 doesn't figure in the removal of conditions.
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
Well apparantly the USCIS DO care!!!
The sponsorship agreement remains in force until the sponsored immigrant:
Becomes a U.S. citizen;
Can be credited with 40 quarters of work;
Departs the United States permanently and either formally abandons lawful permanent resident status (by filing Form I-407) or is formally held in a removal proceeding to have abandoned that status;
In a removal proceeding, loses the lawful permanent resident status that the sponsored immigrant obtained based on your Form I-864; or
Dies.
Anyways, we mailed the form today so hopefully we should be fine.
The form was received by USCIS today,I'll let you guys know what happens.
QUOTE(Bluemoon4455 @ May 28 2008, 11:42 AM)
The form was received by USCIS today,I'll let you guys know what happens.
Hey guys, I just got a receipt from the USCIS, they received the form and changed the address, NO PROBLEMS what so ever!!!!!I guess it really doesn't matter WHEN you file it, you just NEED to file it.
Thank you all so much for your replies.
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