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James&Christy
Hi,

Having arrived in the U.S. a month ago on my K-1 visa, I figured it was about time to get some health insurance. Unfortunately quite a few health insurance providers are refusing to insure me as I've not been in the country for twelve months yet.

We've found one who *will* insure me, but it's uber-expensive sad.gif

Any experiences or advice please? helpsmilie.gif

~James.
yassmine2878
Ahhhh, health insurance... this is right up my alley. Ive worked in physician and hospital billing for over 5 years so I am all too familiar with the evil Health Insurance Company. Which health insurance companies have you contacted? Do you our your spouse have the option of group coverage through an employer?
James&Christy
The only company/group insurance available to Christina is a joke, so unfortunately the answer is no.

We spoke to State Farm, and the guy there spoke to a couple of colleagues who also reckoned we'd have a problem. Blue Cross/Blue Shield *will* give us insurance, but it's expensive sad.gif

I am currently still on the travel insurance policy I got for this "trip", but i'm not sure entirely how long this will last until i get found out wink.gif



yassmine2878
Hmmmmm..... you can try www.myuhc.com
United Healthcare has its ups and downs. Im personally not fond of them, but you may find luck.

www.aetna.com
www.cigna.com
www.humana.com
www.medicalua.com (I think this is the correct website for United American, but Im not certain)
www.megainsurance.com (again, Im not certain this is the correct website)

I cant remember very many tonight, my brain is shutting down. I know there are a ton of other resources I can dig up for you and Ill post some more tomorrow when I get to work and in the "Evil Insurance Company" mindset. Hope this helps smile.gif
yassmine2878
Here are a few more company websites you can try:

www.benplan.com
www.cbca.com
www.definityhealth.com
www.deltahealthsystems.com
www.firsthealth.com
www.wausau.com

Good luck! smile.gif
nayalamb
i got insured under jig (via his employer) as soon as we got married. we used coventry, but i think they may only be in PA/NJ/DE/MD area.

i typed in 'immigrant insurance' in a search and got this http://www.specialtyrisk.com/immigrant_medical.htm

perhaps it can be of use to you. good luck!
Ephesia
QUOTE(nayalamb @ May 9 2006, 04:47 PM) *
i typed in 'immigrant insurance' in a search and got this http://www.specialtyrisk.com/immigrant_medical.htm


I bought insurance from SRI during my first 6 months here. After I started getting work assignments from a staffing agency I had registered with, I bought insurance from Blue Cross Blue Shield through them.
yassmine2878
You might also try other states' Blue Cross Blue Shield plans. Every state has one, so you might find better luck with one state versus another. And you do not necessarily have to live in a particular state to take advantage of their BCBS plan.
Boiler
QUOTE(James&Christy @ May 8 2006, 07:44 PM) *

The only company/group insurance available to Christina is a joke, so unfortunately the answer is no.

We spoke to State Farm, and the guy there spoke to a couple of colleagues who also reckoned we'd have a problem. Blue Cross/Blue Shield *will* give us insurance, but it's expensive sad.gif

I am currently still on the travel insurance policy I got for this "trip", but i'm not sure entirely how long this will last until i get found out wink.gif


Sounds like you know about the 'trip' insurance.

US Insurance is expensive, if you can not get anybody else to pay, Group/Employer, then go with as big a deductible as you can.
Galina
QUOTE(Boiler @ May 10 2006, 12:44 AM) *

Sounds like you know about the 'trip' insurance.

US Insurance is expensive, if you can not get anybody else to pay, Group/Employer, then go with as big a deductible as you can.


My wife had a 6 month wait to be eligable for my policy (to be in state resident). Bad luck, she had appendicitis after 5 months. This is a routine surgery - should be about $5,000. Medicare pays ~ $4200. No insurance? Hospital wants well over $50,000. (The bill would make you laugh - band aids are $200, saline bags (1L sterile salt water) is $500, nurses are $500/hour, pepto bismol $400, TYLEONOL $200/pill !!!)

Everything is marked up about 100 times what is would normally cost.

Doctors are pretty cheap compared to this - they only charged ~$1,000 /hour. A bargain compared to the hospital. (This required 12 doctors and 12 bills in 3 days.) 3 hours of actual care by an actual doctor.

Insanity, really.

The care she received was awful ( 15 hours in pre-op, couldn't get a surgeon to show up... Appendix ruptured while waiting).

Her mother is a physician. She was shocked.

One of our friends is a doctor here. Thank god, the hospital may have killed her otherwise. (every bad thing you could imagine. No one doing rounds, nurses not following Rx's, discharge orders screwed up.) He came by every day, looked at her chart, fixed the screw ups the nurses were making. This is an easy case, right?

You need insurance here, no matter how bad it is. Even if they won't cover ANYTHING, you still need it. You will get the insurance-company price. In our case, the appendectomy would be $4,800 (us paying everything). You don't really need insurance if you get insurance company negotiated prices. This is fine - these things don't happen every day.

Without insurance, we have about $80,000 in bills now (about $20,000/day in hospital). Of course, I'm not paying it.

But the fight you will have with the hospital will not be fun. It is an endless negotiation over everything.

(Their billing is typically so screwed up that they won't send you an invoice. They know you will send it back due to the number of mistakes. Our first 3 bills now have not had anything right yet.)

Anyway, get insurance. It is necessary here.





Boiler
QUOTE(Galina @ May 10 2006, 01:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Boiler @ May 10 2006, 12:44 AM) *

Sounds like you know about the 'trip' insurance.

US Insurance is expensive, if you can not get anybody else to pay, Group/Employer, then go with as big a deductible as you can.


My wife had a 6 month wait to be eligable for my policy (to be in state resident). Bad luck, she had appendicitis after 5 months. This is a routine surgery - should be about $5,000. Medicare pays ~ $4200. No insurance? Hospital wants well over $50,000. (The bill would make you laugh - band aids are $200, saline bags (1L sterile salt water) is $500, nurses are $500/hour, pepto bismol $400, TYLEONOL $200/pill !!!)

Everything is marked up about 100 times what is would normally cost.

Doctors are pretty cheap compared to this - they only charged ~$1,000 /hour. A bargain compared to the hospital. (This required 12 doctors and 12 bills in 3 days.) 3 hours of actual care by an actual doctor.

Insanity, really.

The care she received was awful ( 15 hours in pre-op, couldn't get a surgeon to show up... Appendix ruptured while waiting).

Her mother is a physician. She was shocked.

One of our friends is a doctor here. Thank god, the hospital may have killed her otherwise. (every bad thing you could imagine. No one doing rounds, nurses not following Rx's, discharge orders screwed up.) He came by every day, looked at her chart, fixed the screw ups the nurses were making. This is an easy case, right?

You need insurance here, no matter how bad it is. Even if they won't cover ANYTHING, you still need it. You will get the insurance-company price. In our case, the appendectomy would be $4,800 (us paying everything). You don't really need insurance if you get insurance company negotiated prices. This is fine - these things don't happen every day.

Without insurance, we have about $80,000 in bills now (about $20,000/day in hospital). Of course, I'm not paying it.

But the fight you will have with the hospital will not be fun. It is an endless negotiation over everything.

(Their billing is typically so screwed up that they won't send you an invoice. They know you will send it back due to the number of mistakes. Our first 3 bills now have not had anything right yet.)

Anyway, get insurance. It is necessary here.



Wow, this should be a sticky, summarises everything I have seen about the US Medical system.

Can I copy and use this for next time somebody asks?

Cynically the answer would have been to give a false name/address/SSN.
Leafgal
I will be covered by my SO insurance once we are married but the first days there before marriage I intend on having something to cover me just in case too because you never do know.
TracyTN
Insurance is definitely something to worry about before you move here. Its a huge financial burden to be without it in this country. sad.gif
yassmine2878
QUOTE(Galina @ May 10 2006, 02:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Boiler @ May 10 2006, 12:44 AM) *

Sounds like you know about the 'trip' insurance.

US Insurance is expensive, if you can not get anybody else to pay, Group/Employer, then go with as big a deductible as you can.


My wife had a 6 month wait to be eligable for my policy (to be in state resident). Bad luck, she had appendicitis after 5 months. This is a routine surgery - should be about $5,000. Medicare pays ~ $4200. No insurance? Hospital wants well over $50,000. (The bill would make you laugh - band aids are $200, saline bags (1L sterile salt water) is $500, nurses are $500/hour, pepto bismol $400, TYLEONOL $200/pill !!!)

Everything is marked up about 100 times what is would normally cost.

Doctors are pretty cheap compared to this - they only charged ~$1,000 /hour. A bargain compared to the hospital. (This required 12 doctors and 12 bills in 3 days.) 3 hours of actual care by an actual doctor.

Insanity, really.

......
Anyway, get insurance. It is necessary here.


Exactly. I do hospital billing and the charges are outrageous. If your insurance company is contracted with the hospital you get a huge chunk taken off for contract rates and reasonable and customary adjusments. Even if you have a $2000.00 deductible to pay, you are still better off with insurance. Even crappy group insurance is better than no insurance.
A.J.
I got my wife insured on my company policy as soon as we got married, which was less than two weeks after she arrived. She came with travel isnurance but that isn't very good I heard so therefore I made it a point to get married ASAP. We did the proper Indian reception many many months later.
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