my lady is on her way to moscow embassy,standing in line i imagine at this very moment,im rushing through everything in my head we went over together the last week,all questions we think they will ask based on what i have read here, any possible scenario that might pop up unexpectedly. we have all documents,a lawyer, all things in order,AND IM STILL AS NERVOUS AS A GERBIL IN A KEY WEST PET SHOP ON FRIDAY NIGHT!:)
i cant sleep, and she didnt sleep all night either. i called to her at 540 am her time to wake her up,but low and behold, she was very much AWAKE.

i ask everyone here who will, to please pray for our success,as many of us on here have,her and i have been through much since jan 2007,when we first began speaking. i love her soo much. thank you to all for your advice and help, and i promise to write a review of moscow after we find out,im thinking about 330 this morning,i should know. thank you again to jason/sasha,because sasha talked to my lady and it helped alot with her questions about interview.
to corey /mariya-congratulations!!!! soon you will be together!!!!- David

I think everything will be fine, the only thing that worries me is you got a lawyer... EWWWWW hope he/she doesn't screw it up for yah!!!

I wish you the best of luck, although you probably do not need it.

thanks alot, really.
i proofread all my documents from lawyer before i sent them 3 times,glad i did,because they didnt list my daughter as a partial dependent of mine,(part time dad, i pay child support)so i added her. this would have been a BIG mistake! that being said,he pumped out the financial documents to me and mailed them ALL IN ONE DAY! my cpa's fault,not lawyers.
the only hithng that worries me is, we havent set a specific date for marraige yet,and i told elena to tell them the truth, that is we are waiting for the visa before we buy plane ticket,and make final arrangements as they state to do on their website.(we followed their directions)

Praying!

So, uh, with floods and earthquakes in asia, thousands upon thousands dead, dying and suffering - along with everything else in the world that is going on - you think your lady getting a visa is really going to make your god's list of priorities?

Wow.

Yep. He's got time for all that and even plenty of time left over to burn all the heathens in hell for eternity. God is awesome!


And Native, good luck! I hope everything went well! =)

Ditto, and I will send my prayers heavenward also, truthfully, I don't think you are going to need them, but it never hurts to hedge your bets.

I watched Evan Almighty this weekend and there was a great line in there..... God (Morgan Freeman) said "When you pray for patience, does God give you patience or does He give you the opportunity to be patient? When you pray for courage, does He give you courage or does He give you the opportunity to be courageous?"

I would say prayer is a bunch of balogna because you're asking something of someone(thing) that you can't prove even exists and it has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of what you're asking for.

Yet, by the same token, if the insurance companies and govt. force us to acknowledge "acts of god" then that's proof of a supernatural if I've ever heard it!

Good luck! I am sure you will be fine.

to those who understood what i asked,i thank you for your thoughts and prayers,very much appreciated and i will return the favor.
for those who didnt,thats ok too. by the way SHE GOT HER VISA AT 3AM EST. she was first in, first out,and i will post review later as told by her.

to the cynics,atheists and whoever else may pop up with a fancy hip modern title i appreciate your view, and you have a right to it,its what makes america great!( slim- this is not directed to you but the jackass who made the stupid china crack)
- having said that- i wasnt speaking to you to pray for me. i dont ask of what you cannot possibly give or comprehend. why respond at all? but i will pray for you because you need it more than i.
you may not beleive in god,but he believes in you,and if youre right,and im wrong, it doesnt really matter does it?. but if i am right and you are wrong,better start listening to that little voice inside called your conscience,becuase hes everybodys god,not just mine. and do i think he has time for me? you bet i do, and you too. omnipotence and omnipresence.

it is a terrible tragedy what happened in china,and terrible things happen all over the world. why would you bring that up? terrible things are happening here in our own backyard everyday,but do you see progress or a public outcry for anything besides cheap gas?
did you want to pick a fight or something or look cool? did mama not give you enough titty as a baby and make you the way you are,devoid of compassion for another? was the penile ruler unkind to you in gym class? lighten up man. life is too short to be so angry all the time. get a job,get plastic sugery,get a bike,get a tattoo,masturbate,do something interesting besides making whacko statements like that.

Congratulations!

WOW!!

And you call me a whacko.....heh.

You make god so proud!!!

Cheers!
AKDiver

I'll second that.

How about let people who believe in God believe in God...it's clear the OP does and it's clear that some of the posts here are antagonizing him and of a hurtful nature to those who believe...this is against the TOS of VJ. If you don't believe in God...good...we are all happy for you...keep it to yourself or start your own post celebrating whatever it is that floats your boat. Don't bring it to someone else's thread and try to ruin what is a happy moment for them. You won't change anyone's mind just as they won't change yours so let's skip the religious debate please.

And just when I was about to ask for a religious debate.....

Sorry, Slim! lol

Thank God that no PETA people or people of a sensitive and artistic nature jumped in on the Gerbil comment, we would have really been swamped with some nasty posts instead of the age old God yes/no that we are in our own individual way, very familiar with.

I think you need to take a reading comprehension class. I never said anything about believing or not believing in god. My question was about god's priority list and what makes the cut. Try again.

God Bless,
AKDiver

You know exactly what you were trying to do. Don't play stupid. (or are you not playing?) The terms of service for VJ state that it is not permitted to:

Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

Your post stated:



You are attempting to belittle the OP (and all other believers in God...that's God with a capital G) implying that his beliefs are silly. Unless you are a complete idiot you would know this will antagonize and instigate an argument. You ARE taking away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by myself. I would guess you are having the same effect on anyone else who believes in God...it's offensive.

I'm not naive enough to think you are merely on a fact-finding mission on God's priorities. I doubt anyone else here is either.

Many people have problems accepting the fact that others have something they believe in when they believe in nothing and feel the need to attack these beliefs. It's a normal reaction to such insecurities. But I digress.

I'm sure you can find much more interesting things to argue over here than religion. Posts like yours have been done way too many times here and have lost all their originality, so please, find something else to be unhappy about. Thanks!

As much as I would like to see a fact-finding mission on God's priorities (still pulling for that religious debate) I'm pretty sure this is going to go in a different direction. Especially after seeing Cheers changed to God Bless.

Wow! You've got it all figured out, eh??

No, I was implying that his plea for divine help concerning a visa is pretty selfish, considering the other areas to which divine help could be applied.

If you get yourself in a tizzy, that's hardly my fault. Don't read my posts. It's simple to do and costs you nothing. Yet, you can't resist! You must want to know what I have to say. Put me on your ignore list if you must - but don't blame your unhappiness on me.

and so you are assuming that I don't believe in god?

Hey, I'm not the one insisting on an argument and telling people what they should or should not say in their posts. I know how to skip over material I don't find interesting and move on to the next post. Do you?

God Bless!
AKDiver

Does it need to be a large-scale tragedy for someone to be deserving of a little positive energy? I don't even believe in God and I don't see anything wrong with asking for a prayer or two.

I'm glad to hear your good news Native!

Still no religious debate.

I'll keep checking.

There's no rule that says you can only pray for world peace, ending world hunger, etc. Nothing is too small to pray to God about and it's perfectly ok to pray for things that apply to you. Most of us believe that God is omnipotent and omnipresent thus praying for one thing will not detract God from getting to something else...He doesn't need a priority list.



I'm not in a tizzy. I just don't like to see people putting down others because of their race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. I'm not trying to make rules here what you can post and not post...it's VJ's rules, not mine.



Yes. I'm assuming that based on the content of your first post (ex. referring to your god which would imply that you don't believe in the same God). Also, most people who believe would always capitalize God...He's not just some god...He's THE God. Also, just based on some of your other posts I would venture to guess you don't believe in God. It's usually pretty easy to tell believe it or not.



I'm not insisting on an argument either, but if I was going to argue something it would be that you should have just skipped the OP's post (since you claim to know how to do this) or posted something encouraging rather than posting something negative. I'm hoping you will exercise your ablity to skip over material by not responding to this post, unless you feel like there's something you need to add.

Have a nice day!




I'm working on it Slim...these things take time.

It's the trivialization of a god that is most offensive. I mean, what's next - "dear god, help me find a parking space so I can make the big sale at walmart!" ??


how should I know which god the OP believes in?

God is not a proper name. It's also about as creative a name as calling the moon "Moon". I tend not to capitalize it.

If you choose to view something as negative, that's up to you. Outta my control man.


I always do this. If you don't like what I add, well, that's up to you.

God Bless!
AKDiver

umm, i think that "being reunited with the woman who is/is going to become your wife and hoping that the us will allow her to emigrate" is a LOT different from "finding a parking space at walmart." i hope that you did not trivialize your wife in this way.

ak, I think your responses speak for themselves. I've got better things to do so I'll just leave it at that so this dead horse will stop getting beat. (sorry Slim! )



Native, sorry for all the BS on your thread! I just want to say Congratulations and I'm happy for you!

Just for future reference (if you really don't understand why God is capitalized) I recommend reading the following Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case



If you have personal reasons for not following accepted conventions and making your own, more power to you.

Just when it was almost a debate.....

I wish you the best luck in the world today!

Congrats

Ditto...Congrats ! )

I would just like to say congratulations to everyone who has received their visa,and thank those who prayed for us,or had positive thoughts or whatever. i really very much appreciate everything.
i havent posted in a while,because i have been very busy readying everything. also,i did not mean in any way to cause a religious debate.( sorry slim)
IMO religion is mans attempt to get to god. i dont need religion,i know what i have to do.
the books already been written on what to do,you just have to pay attention,do what it says,live by the rules.
nowhere in the rules,does it say anything about letting GOD or your belief in him,be used as a doormat.

eekee,thank you for your honesty,funny thing is, ive had agnostic friends my whole life, we respect each other,and just dont go there in discussion,unless im asked a question.
i never try to force my beliefs down anyones throat.
there is scientific proof from reliable,respected university sources on the power of prayer. do yourself a favor,look it up.

lvivlovers,
you are right,i was taken aback and angered that mr. diver decided to pee in my cornflakes.
its kindof like an old man who wins the lottery,walks out of the store and gets crippled by passing car.
now theres an analogy for you.
i am a very sensitive person,unless you are al-qaida or taliban,and all i could see in my head,was poor crushed chinese people when i read what he wrote.
maybe he was tired,like me,but i forgive him.
and the comment about the parking place,i understand what he was trying to say,but as eekee said,there really is no comparison there,and it was a very poor analogy.
I would die for this woman,not for a damn parking place. kindof brings a lack of depth in feeling to the surface.
as for my poor response-
he is right it was not christian like,it was quite mercenary,but sometimes that part of me cannot be contained when the right buttons are pushed,we are not perfect,just forgiven.

when i wrote the post,i had been up for 27 hours straight,no food, and loaded with caffeine. i didnt sleep the next day either,but adrenaline,happiness helped.(and prayers!)
btw-
i actually have some friends who live in atlanta,russian/south african couple who are very very nice people. they have helped myself and elena from the beginning.
if youre interested,pm me.
thank you for coming to my defense while i was away.
my little sister also lives there.
poka,ill keep you posted- NATIVE FLORIDIAN

So we can't debate religion, can we debate the geo-political social climate that's tied to religion? Or the connection between crushed Chinese people and Al-Qaida/Taliban and how they affect our sensitivities?



"Did you really shoot that man over a parking space?" .................. "When you're older, you'll understand." (Time for the movie trivia again.)



Ah hah! So you are a Christian mercenary! That kind of sleep deprivation only comes with serious training from Langley or Quantico or even in the field somewhere like Camp X-Ray. There's a place in North Carolina that's big on training that sort of thing but they've come under increased scrutiny lately because some of their guys shot up a bunch of civilians after being awake for so long. Proof positive that running on two or three days without sleep is sometimes not the best for cognitive reasoning.

maybe,and no you cant have my chicken cavatelli mre. but ill make you apple crisp and some ranger pudding if u like

Ranger pudding is one of my all-time favorite MRE treats! Well, that and M&Ms with Barcelona Olympic sweepstakes still on them.

In all seriousness, the new (light tan/brownish color) MREs are actually quite good.