My fiancée is hearing that I might not be able to get a cosigner now. I just sent in my I-129F. I'm waiting for the next step. I have been struggling with my own business and I know I don't have enough income. I do own commercial real estate with my family. My fiancée heard that they no longer except a cosigner. Does anyone know if that is true. I really don't want to move to Vietnam but I'm not going to live without her. Someone... anyone know anything about new rules about a cosigner?
Thanks,
Ralph and Hanh
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QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 09:15 AM) 
My fiancée is hearing that I might not be able to get a cosigner now. I just sent in my I-129F. I'm waiting for the next step. I have been struggling with my own business and I know I don't have enough income. I do own commercial real estate with my family. My fiancée heard that they no longer except a cosigner. Does anyone know if that is true. I really don't want to move to Vietnam but I'm not going to live without her. Someone... anyone know anything about new rules about a cosigner?
Thanks,
Ralph and Hanh
Thanks,
Ralph and Hanh
There's no such thing as a cosigner in the immigration process and never has been. I think you mean a co-sponsor. Technically, they are allowed but some Consulates are pretty strict on sponsorship. These tend to be Consulates in high fraud countries. Vietnam HCMC is a high fraud post. You'll want a Vietnam specific answer to this question. You could even email the Consulate with your question.
thank you... I will contact them. I'm not worried but she is. I know that God put us together for a reason and He will see us through 
Thank you for the fast response.
Thank you for the fast response.
You're going to have to go the K-3 route if you can't show the required 125% above the poverty level. HCMC allegedly is not accepting K-1 Co-Sponsors.
The I-134 instructions from HCMC Consulate says that you can use a co sponsor, or your fiancee's income in the US (if she has a job offer) or a combination of your income, co sponsor and her future income to meet the 125% requirements. I don't know if they actually will approve you with these alternates. I know most people are able to meet the requirement by themselves so there are few posters on VJ who can give you feedback about this.
Asking the HCMC Consulate is the best route. And perhaps getting advice from Marc Ellis about this could be good as he has been sucessful for many here on VJ with their issues with HCMC Consulate.
Good Luck
Peter and Thi
I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26
Asking the HCMC Consulate is the best route. And perhaps getting advice from Marc Ellis about this could be good as he has been sucessful for many here on VJ with their issues with HCMC Consulate.
Good Luck
Peter and Thi
I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26
great advice thanks.
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 02:41 PM)
great advice thanks.
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
You should consult with Marc Ellis. You have yourself in an interesting situation. If they are not accepting Co-Sponsors on K-1's, as Marc Ellis advised me, then you may be looking at abandoning your 129f, marrying there, filing the I-130 waiting for the NOA1, then RE-FILING the 129F (K-3's have to do this AFTER the NOA1 on an I-130) and seeing which gets approved first. I don't want to alarm you, but this is a distinct possibility.
My advise is to do what the others have suggested. Contact the Consulate and Marc Ellis.
Welcome to Wonderland Alice.
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 10 2008, 03:08 PM)
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 02:41 PM)
great advice thanks.
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
You should consult with Marc Ellis. You have yourself in an interesting situation. If they are not accepting Co-Sponsors on K-1's, as Marc Ellis advised me, then you may be looking at abandoning your 129f, marrying there, filing the I-130 waiting for the NOA1, then RE-FILING the 129F (K-3's have to do this AFTER the NOA1 on an I-130) and seeing which gets approved first. I don't want to alarm you, but this is a distinct possibility.
My advise is to do what the others have suggested. Contact the Consulate and Marc Ellis.
Welcome to Wonderland Alice.
Oh boy
I regret starting my own business sometimes. I have emailed Marc here and hope to hear from him this week. I have commercial property that will be sold this summer and I will have a large amount of money in the bank at that time. I don't know if that will make a difference. I have been hearing so many different things from so many people. I guess with my situation I need a pro. Thanks for the heads up.
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 10 2008, 03:08 PM)
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 02:41 PM)
great advice thanks.
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
She does have a job offer. The person that introduced us has her own nail salon here in the US and will hirer her right way. Last year was not a good year for me. This year is shaping up well for me so fare. I will contact whom you mentioned for assistance. Thank you so much!
You should consult with Marc Ellis. You have yourself in an interesting situation. If they are not accepting Co-Sponsors on K-1's, as Marc Ellis advised me, then you may be looking at abandoning your 129f, marrying there, filing the I-130 waiting for the NOA1, then RE-FILING the 129F (K-3's have to do this AFTER the NOA1 on an I-130) and seeing which gets approved first. I don't want to alarm you, but this is a distinct possibility.
My advise is to do what the others have suggested. Contact the Consulate and Marc Ellis.
Welcome to Wonderland Alice.
Oh boy
I regret starting my own business sometimes. I have emailed Marc here and hope to hear from him this week. I have commercial property that will be sold this summer and I will have a large amount of money in the bank at that time. I don't know if that will make a difference. I have been hearing so many different things from so many people. I guess with my situation I need a pro. Thanks for the heads up.
Three dollars in liquid assets will substitute for 1 dollar in income. There's a good chance something like a CPA's financial statement for you would be excellent supporting evidence for your I-134. Sounds like you'll need to qualify primarily with assets instead of earned income.
Oh ok... Hmmm. I'm sure by the time I have to show my finances that it will be in the bank. I am also partners in land that is being developed. I know my case is more complicated than the average person. The story of my life.
I forgot to add (as I always do) that Marc told me in one breath that you only had to show 1 year in the past 3 with 125% over. Then in the next breath he told me to have a Co-Sponsor standing by. I had a bad 2005, all of the other years I am either close or well over. I was already on the K-3 track when we consulted with him.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 10 2008, 04:09 PM)
I forgot to add (as I always do) that Marc told me in one breath that you only had to show 1 year in the past 3 with 125% over. Then in the next breath he told me to have a Co-Sponsor standing by. I had a bad 2005, all of the other years I am either close or well over. I was already on the K-3 track when we consulted with him.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
WOW. I would move to Vietnam for a year and work as an English teacher before I do that
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 10 2008, 04:09 PM)
I forgot to add (as I always do) that Marc told me in one breath that you only had to show 1 year in the past 3 with 125% over. Then in the next breath he told me to have a Co-Sponsor standing by. I had a bad 2005, all of the other years I am either close or well over. I was already on the K-3 track when we consulted with him.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
WOW. I would move to Vietnam for a year and work as an English teacher before I do that
It sounds worse than it is. Thuy (in a very smart move) didn't tell me what was coming. She had already submitted to hers. When we stepped into the room I saw the machine and knew exactly what it was (I have a medical sales background). I just went to my "happy place" and tried not to laugh.
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 10 2008, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 10 2008, 04:09 PM)
I forgot to add (as I always do) that Marc told me in one breath that you only had to show 1 year in the past 3 with 125% over. Then in the next breath he told me to have a Co-Sponsor standing by. I had a bad 2005, all of the other years I am either close or well over. I was already on the K-3 track when we consulted with him.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
If you do end up going K-3 I will tell you what we went through and assist in any way I can. It wasn't real easy, but it got done. One thing I found out was that they (the Vietnamese Government) now requires both spouses to meet with a Government Psychiatrist. Before the Foreign Spouse was able to meet with one in their own country. I found this out after I jumped through a hell of alot of hoops here and actually got the paper signed. Then, to make it really interesting, I had to submit to a brain mapping (electrodes attached to my cranium and all)! That was at The Tien Giang Institute of Forensic Sciences. I spoke with another American at My Tho when we were signing "The Big Book" (the final step) as I call it and he said he just had to meet with a Psychiatrist in HCMC, who asked him the time and date and had him write it out. This is the same thing I had to do in America.
WOW. I would move to Vietnam for a year and work as an English teacher before I do that
Do you have a Bachelor's Degree? The Government made that a prerequisite to teach English there a few years ago. Be careful with the TEFL/TESL schools too. They are notoriously dishonest.
LOL no I don't have a degree. I my fiancée has a friend that works at an English school and she was telling me about that. Sorry... I was just joking. I also have a job offer from her brother to join up with him to fix computers. That's what I do here.
But I was just thinking that I should have her move to Mexico and then she can just walk across the border with no problem
... sorry - another joke 
You know, I have total faith in God. He put us together for a reason and He will see us through.
I just want to say thank you to everyone. I had no Idea that I would have gotten such generous and kind responses.
But I was just thinking that I should have her move to Mexico and then she can just walk across the border with no problem
... sorry - another joke You know, I have total faith in God. He put us together for a reason and He will see us through.
I just want to say thank you to everyone. I had no Idea that I would have gotten such generous and kind responses.
Ralph
I just noticed you filed in Vermont. That means you'll get your interview much quicker than those who file in California. The USCIS office there seems to get approvals in about 2-3 months instead of the 5-6 months California takes. You're on the fast track. So start getting your evidence, etc ready.
Good Luck!!
Peter and Thi
I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26
I just noticed you filed in Vermont. That means you'll get your interview much quicker than those who file in California. The USCIS office there seems to get approvals in about 2-3 months instead of the 5-6 months California takes. You're on the fast track. So start getting your evidence, etc ready.
Good Luck!!
Peter and Thi
I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26
WooHoo
thanks for that
I have a question how do you fill out the specifics on how you will support them on the I-134? if you are going to marry them what do you write. cause they are asking for specific information?
There's no such thing as a co-sponsor either. There are only sponsors.
Moving the thread to the Consulate Forum where there are more opportunities for the OP to research his situation.
Moving the thread to the Consulate Forum where there are more opportunities for the OP to research his situation.
I have another question how do I find the poverty levels to see if I make 125%?
QUOTE(bri @ May 11 2008, 03:10 PM)
I have another question how do I find the poverty levels to see if I make 125%?
The poverty level is $10,400 of 1 person. So if you have no kids thats it. So with the 125% it's $13,000
you can get more info here Poverty Guide
QUOTE(RalphandHanh @ May 12 2008, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE(bri @ May 11 2008, 03:10 PM)
I have another question how do I find the poverty levels to see if I make 125%?
The poverty level is $10,400 of 1 person. So if you have no kids thats it. So with the 125% it's $13,000
you can get more info here Poverty Guide
A person sponsoring a visa applicant will always need to qualify for a minimum of a two-person household, themselves and the intending immigrant. So, $17,500 is the minimum number anybody here needs to look at.
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