Hi Everyone,

I'm in the midst of gathering the paperwork for the I-751 and was wondering if one sworn affidavit which I already have is enough. I know that the application says that I'm supposed to have two. But unfortunately, I simply cannot find another person who is willing to sign and swear to another one (it was hard enough finding one person as it is!). So should I just submit that one that I already have (along with the application and joint evidence that I have) and hope that it will go through without any problems? Anyone else out there just submit one affidavit instead of two and did you have any problems with that?

Any thoughts, opinions, or ideas appreciated. Thanks.

Ant

one should be fine..

if you have a lot of other evidence I wouldn't worry about it...

there have been many discussions about this but in my humble opinion affidavits are not a requirement, they are just a suggestion and they are good to include if you don't have a lot of other evidence...

Affidavits are not necessary. They are just another example of evidence you can provide. We didn't provide any affidavits and were approved with no problems.

Hi MarilynP and Raymaga,

Thanks for your replies and reassurance about only having one affidavit. It's good to know too, that you didn't have any problems with your I-751 paperwork, even though you didn't submit any affidavits at all. I guess I'll submit that one affidavit that I have, as after all, I can't submit the additional affidavits that I don't have..lol...

By the way, here is a list of the additional joint evidence that I have: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1710209 I hope this will be sufficient enough too.

Ant

yeah I had no problems.. no RFEs or anything..

just to give you an idea this is what we included in our package ....

copy of baby's hospital certificate
copy of baby's death certificate
copy of rental agreement
copy of car insurance
copy of one recent joint tax form
copy of 401K that states that I am the primary beneficiary
copy of health care statement showing that I am covered under hubby's health care insurance
copy of one recent gas bill
copy of one recent phone bill
copy of one recent cable bill
copy of recent bank statements
copy of paper showing that hubby added me to his bank account
Copy of some bills (Sirius, Netflix etc) with just hubby's name and our address on it
Copy of some bills with just my name on it and our address (recent electric bill etc..)
Some envelopes with both our names and address on them...

I just sent in the most recent bill for each utility.... The phone and gas were in my name but I added hubby's name, the electric company didn't let me add my hubby's name...... and I just included the most recent bank statement.... and the application that we filled out to add me to hubby's account...

Hi MarilynP,

Thanks for your reply and for including your helpful list of the joint evidence that you included in your I-751 package and congrats about your approval. Sorry about the loss of your baby, and I hope that you find comfort in knowing that your “angel is in the sky”…

I was surprised that you didn’t get an RFE, as you only submitted only the most recent bills and I thought they wanted to see all the bills over a period of time, not just the most recent bill. I guess if the evidence overall shows the entire period of the marriage, then it should be ok? I had a similar problem too with one of the bills (the cable bill) and not being able to add my name onto that, but that’s ok, as I have plenty of other bills already.

Anyway, here is my list (from the other message thread), so you can see how what I have so far in joint evidence compares to your list. I hope this is sufficient enough:

Application form and application/biometric fees
Cover letter
Permanent Residence Card (both front side and back side)
Canadian Passport (with added married surname)
Marriage Certificate
Pregnancy and Miscarriage Medical Notes
Joint Home Purchase Agreement and Maintenance Fees Letters
Joint Homeowner Insurance Declaration and Invoice
Joint Home Renovation and Repair Receipts
Joint Checking Account Bank Statements
Joint Credit Card Statements
Joint Non-Filing of Income Tax Letter/Explanation
Joint Automobile Insurance Policy Declaration and Statements
Joint Electric Bills
Joint Gas Bills
Joint Water and Septic/Sewer Invoices
Joint Telephone Invoices
Photographs during the years of our marriage
Joint Trips and Events Receipts and Tickets
Joint Mail, Subscriptions, and Junk Mail
Affidavit from an individual who have known us since conditional residency

Ant

yeah I think you are fine as long as you have evidence from throughout the marriage.... I only included the recent bills but I had other stuff that was from earlier.. etc

and I think the baby stuff helped in my case too..


not all the evidence has to be joint.... i also included bills and stuff that were just in my name and some in the hubby''s name but they are good proof to show that you live at the same address...

Hi MarilynP,

Thanks for clearing that up, as I was confused at first as to how you got approved with only one of each bill. Now I see that all the evidence you had overall did cover that span of time of your marriage. Yes, the joint evidence that I have so far (about 50-100 pages or so total) is from throughout the entire timeline of the marriage, so I should be ok there. Hmmm...never thought about non-joint stuff, but I think I have enough joint stuff, so I don't think it will come to that, but it's good to know anyways. Glad that the baby stuff helped in your case too, though again, sorry for your loss. Not sure if the baby stuff (pregnancy and miscarriage notes) I have in my case will help, but it will have to do for now(sigh...I have the baby stuff...but no baby........).

Ant

I would not be advising people that any evidence expressly suggested by the instructions is not necessary. Even if there are people who were approved without one, you are not going to have the same adjudicator as those people. Those petitions may have been approved at a rubber-stamp service center like CSC or may have been approved by an adjudicator with looser standards. In short, these folks may have just been lucky. Who knows? You don't, I don't, and the two folks above putting in their $0.02 certainly don't. It's always best to send as much as you possibly can. If you have an affidavit, and can get another one, I would send in both.

hey i am just giving my opinion... i never said don't send in any affidavits..... and in my opinion the affidavits are just a suggestion, not a necessity.. and are good to send if you don't have a lot of other evidence...

there are quite a few people here who didn't send in affidavits and were approved...

Ignore him Marilyn. He tried to throw his weight around with me on another thread without success.

My wife also got approved without affidavits, and her evidence was less strong than yours or AntandD (no baby). If AntandD submitted the evidence he says he did, it's a lock. Don't stress yourself over it.

The only lock is the one that should be on your padded cell, psycho-newbie. Marilyn's opinion may have some weight, but you're an unknown quantity. What service center did you use? What country is your spouse from? What is your timeline? Did your spouse do AOS or enter on a CR-1 visa? Who knows? Who cares? You're certainly not looking to participate here in a big way. All you've done is barge in on the TSC-VSC thread and start criticizing others. How did VJ ever survive without your stellar contributions?

I rest my case. Knock off the bullying James. It serves no purpose.

Marilyn's case and my own had strong factual evidence without affidavits and both were approved. Yours supposedly had affidavits and is still pending. I filed at the same location as you yet mine was approved faster. Nuff said.

Your obsession and pejorative feelings towards immigration is scary, in addition to your condescension towards new members here. Give it a rest.

Who are you again? When did you file? When were you approved? Were you transferred from TSC to CSC? Nobody knows. Why should anyone trust your experience as any sort of guide?

I have no "obsession . . . towards immigration," whatever that means. Nor do I have "pejorative feelings toward immigration," whatever that also may mean. (Words and phrases may be pejorative, but feelings? Hardly.)

If you are talking about my attitude and/or feelings toward CIS, it richly deserves any contempt I may choose to heap it them as a badly run government agency. My wife and I petitioned well over a year ago. CIS has approved petitions that were filed in CSC in February of this year, but has still not approved mine or those of many others who filed a year ago in TSC. Choose to defend this sad state of affairs, if you like; I, for one, find it indefensible. As a recent NY Times editorial put it, CIS runs "a creaky, corrosively inept system for welcoming immigrants in — an underperforming bureaucracy that takes their money and makes them wait, with a chronic indolence that is just another form of hostility." Apparently you disagree with that assessment.

As for my ostensible condescension toward newbies, you are simply taking my heretofore rather limited interaction with you in the TSC-VSC thread and fallaciously assuming I treat all new members the same way. Bear in mind, I'm not the one who initially took you to task in that thread. I would leave it to others to assess what a complete jackass you came off as in your first post as you completely misunderstood what was going on and presumed to tell others how they should react to having waited a year for their petitions to be approved: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1811686

Hi MarilynP, Speaking_Softly, James,

Thanks for your replies, comments, and suggestions. Sorry that this message thread caused a disagreement between all of you. I started this message thread wondering if anyone else out there encountered a similar dilemma, not to cause more problems. No need for arguing and disagreeing, really. Either way, for those of you who got approved, I'm glad that it worked out well for you, and for those of you who are still waiting, I hope that you do get approved soon. Each immigration situation is different, so in the end, there is no one right or wrong way in terms of dealing with immigration.

As for my situation, I wish that I could have another affidavit, but I've exhaused all options in terms of getting another affidavit, and as I said before, I can't find another person to sign and swear to such. Hence, I have no other choice and can only submit the one affidavit that I already have and take a gamble with that. I just hope that with the evidence and paperwork that I have, I'll be approved without any problems....

Ant

Oh I see. First it was because I have complained on VJ. Now it's because I included affidavits that I haven't been approved yet? You, sir, are unbelievable. Your continued judgements are a slap in the face to many good people who are waiting for over a year to be approved.

To the OP: I am in the camp that believes that an affidavit is a fair piece of evidence to include. I personally wouldn't worry that you only have one. Together with the rest of the evidence you have listed, it looks like a nice well-rounded package. Best wishes to you as you submit it!

Hi Cassie,

Thanks for your reply and your well wishes. I agree, that an affidavit is fair to include, as after all, why would they request for it if they didn't want it? Lol...I guess submitting one is better than submitting none at all, so at this point I won't worry about that much either, as I can only submit what I have.

Now all I have to do is sit and wait until August (sigh, I wish I could submit it earlier), while the paperwork sits on my desk collecting dust for now (next to the empty boxes of chocolate Canadian Smarties...lol...).

Ant

Ant,

OF COURSE it's helps your case to include affidavits. I think everybody missed the sarcasm in my post directed at James.

I still say your case is as good as approved. You're hitting them with a tidal wave of hard, factual evidence that would make the affidavits look like nothing more than a tiny ripple. 50-100 pages is impressive and overwhelming.

And I reiterate, while affidavits can only help one's case, flaming immigration officials NEVER does and can only hurt it.

Good luck to you and especially Cassie. I know you've been waiting a long time and I do empathize, regardless of whether you believe it or not.

Hi Speaking_softly,

I agree, it does help to include affidavits in the I-751, as like I said before, “why would they request for it if they didn’t want it”. So I guess it was better for me to submit one, than none at all.

Yes, I am “hitting them with a tidal wave of evidence”, as I figure that it’s better to have more evidence than not enough at all. 50-100 pages do seem like a lot, but I’m pretty much giving them all that I have, so they don’t miss anything. It’s funny though; the affidavit is in one of the last pages in that pile of evidence that I have, so hopefully they won’t miss that “tiny ripple” in the pile and that they will consider the affidavit as part of the evidence.

Good luck with yours and everyone else’s I-751 and other immigration journeys. May it be a good one, with not to much waiting involved, and in the end will result in success.

Ant