mohamed N melinda
May 9 2008, 02:57 PM
we went today to apply for SSN and the man told us we cant get it cause now i am no longer faince but husband and that i need to get EAD first to get SSN !!!!! and that might take about 4 months to get?is that right? i am so confused
any help
Cécy
May 9 2008, 03:07 PM
More than whether you are married or not it depends on when you entered the country on your K1. After 74 days or so in the country, they no longer create a SSN number under the k1 visa. Then depending on what they tell you (it varies by states) you need your EAD or Green Card for it.
EAD takes about 90 days.
mohamed N melinda
May 9 2008, 03:11 PM
i just came to usa 10 days ago so i thought i can get my social security but the man there told me i have to get EAD first to get it since i am no more k1 as he said
The Molinas
May 9 2008, 03:13 PM
You have to wait until you receive your greencard, ead... They need to see proof that of your current immigration status
i applied for my SSN as soon a i arrived in the US, and after the marriage i wanted to change my name but they told me that i have to come back with proof of my status... i even brought my NOA 1 from my EAD/AOS but it wasnt sufficient.
You should have applied for you SSN before the marriage. Now you'll have to wait until you receive your Greencard/Work authorization
lynie
May 9 2008, 03:21 PM
my husband got his SSN after we got married and before we filed AOS with no problem. all he needed was his I-94.
we married 4 days after he arrived, and he applied for his SSN a week and a half later, and we received it in the mail 2 weeks after that. We filed AOS paperwork after he received his card.
search other threads on this - it is widely discussed (my comp. is slow and i'm having trouble or i'd try to find them). But it is not uncommon for employees at the SS offices to not know their own rules. But, you need to be in the system, which takes about 2 weeks after you arrive. maybe that's the problem - ? I know it's important to wait 2 weeks after your arrival before you apply, and also not to wait until your I-94 is about to expire. Check the FAQs and how to apply for SSN in the guides - it gives advice and examples of what to bring with you when you apply.
good luck.
ZeeNusah
May 9 2008, 03:30 PM
You may want to take this document with you and direct them to Section C:
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx...33;opendocumentYou should be able to get an SSN.
TracyTN
May 9 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE(The Molinas @ May 9 2008, 03:13 PM)

You have to wait until you receive your greencard, ead... They need to see proof that of your current immigration status
i applied for my SSN as soon a i arrived in the US, and after the marriage i wanted to change my name but they told me that i have to come back with proof of my status... i even brought my NOA 1 from my EAD/AOS but it wasnt sufficient.
You should have applied for you SSN before the marriage. Now you'll have to wait until you receive your Greencard/Work authorization
That is simply not true, not for K1s. See the document in my signature. They also should not have required you to show proof of immigration status for a simple name change. Obviously the people in your local SSA office don't know what they're doing.
You do need to wait at least 10 days after entry before applying so that they can confirm your immigration status. It is probably best to have applied for it before your marriage - but only because their own rules seem to confuse them.
But since you are now married, I'd go apply for it anyway, and print out the document in my signature. There is 'no reason you cannot have your SSN as a K1 after your marriage. The fact that they often times don't know (or don't understand) their own rules isn't your problem!
lazylivn
May 9 2008, 05:08 PM
This was my experience. They didn't want to give my husband his social security number either. Said he didn't qualify. I had that memo printed showing he did and gently nudged them to check it, see if it was current or had changed. After waiting another 30 minutes while they called around to find out for sure....he was able to get it.
QUOTE(TracyTN @ May 9 2008, 04:32 PM)

That is simply not true, not for K1s. See the document in my signature. They also should not have required you to show proof of immigration status for a simple name change. Obviously the people in your local SSA office don't know what they're doing.
You do need to wait at least 10 days after entry before applying so that they can confirm your immigration status. It is probably best to have applied for it before your marriage - but only because their own rules seem to confuse them.
But since you are now married, I'd go apply for it anyway, and print out the document in my signature. There is 'no reason you cannot have your SSN as a K1 after your marriage. The fact that they often times don't know (or don't understand) their own rules isn't your problem!
vic&el4ever
May 9 2008, 05:24 PM
QUOTE(TracyTN @ May 9 2008, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE(The Molinas @ May 9 2008, 03:13 PM)

You have to wait until you receive your greencard, ead... They need to see proof that of your current immigration status
i applied for my SSN as soon a i arrived in the US, and after the marriage i wanted to change my name but they told me that i have to come back with proof of my status... i even brought my NOA 1 from my EAD/AOS but it wasnt sufficient.
You should have applied for you SSN before the marriage. Now you'll have to wait until you receive your Greencard/Work authorization
That is simply not true, not for K1s. See the document in my signature. They also should not have required you to show proof of immigration status for a simple name change. Obviously the people in your local SSA office don't know what they're doing.
You do need to wait at least 10 days after entry before applying so that they can confirm your immigration status. It is probably best to have applied for it before your marriage - but only because their own rules seem to confuse them.
But since you are now married, I'd go apply for it anyway, and print out the document in my signature. There is 'no reason you cannot have your SSN as a K1 after your marriage. The fact that they often times don't know (or don't understand) their own rules isn't your problem!
My wife got her SSN soon after our after Marrage, but they didn't even look at it. They only looked at her I-94 on her Passport. Sure you can't work till your AOS is done or you get your EAD.
When her son Arrived on a K-2 Visa to follow, we went to get his SSN also and all we heard from them again is: “No he needs a EAD to get his SSN”. I read you link, but I dont completely understand it.
2. Aliens Who Require an EAD from DHS Authorizing Employment
K-2
Child of K-1
The I-766 shows “A-6” under Category; the I-688B shows “(A)(6)” under Provision of Law. Does this mean he can not get a SSN?
Thanks!
RaTBoX
May 9 2008, 06:43 PM
QUOTE(vic&el4ever @ May 9 2008, 05:24 PM)

My wife got her SSN soon after our after Marrage, but they didn't even look at it. They only looked at her I-94 on her Passport. Sure you can't work till your AOS is done or you get your EAD.
When her son Arrived on a K-2 Visa to follow, we went to get his SSN also and all we heard from them again is: “No he needs a EAD to get his SSN”. I read you link, but I dont completely understand it.
2. Aliens Who Require an EAD from DHS Authorizing Employment
K-2
Child of K-1
The I-766 shows “A-6” under Category; the I-688B shows “(A)(6)” under Provision of Law.
Does this mean he can not get a SSN?
Thanks!
This SSA policy section means that they won't give an K2 visa holder an SSN without first seeing an EAD stamp on an I-94 (a)(6) code stamp, or an EAD under category (a)(6).
Just to be clear, only read an SSA policy about your eligibility to receive an SSN number, not about your work authorization. The SSA is not the agency who decides your work authorization, the USCIS is.
I Quit
May 9 2008, 10:57 PM
QUOTE(mohamed N melinda @ May 9 2008, 03:57 PM)

we went today to apply for SSN and the man told us we cant get it cause now i am no longer faince but husband and that i need to get EAD first to get SSN !!!!! and that might take about 4 months to get?is that right? i am so confused
any help
At which SSA office did the geniuses tell you this?
Cassie
May 9 2008, 11:04 PM
QUOTE(I Quit @ May 9 2008, 10:57 PM)

QUOTE(mohamed N melinda @ May 9 2008, 03:57 PM)

we went today to apply for SSN and the man told us we cant get it cause now i am no longer faince but husband and that i need to get EAD first to get SSN !!!!! and that might take about 4 months to get?is that right? i am so confused
any help
At which SSA office did the geniuses tell you this?
Indeed, that is total crap.
I got my SSN a month after getting married, with no problems.
mohamed N melinda
May 9 2008, 11:07 PM
it was at midlothian Virginia office . and i agree with you it is really stupid
I Quit
May 9 2008, 11:11 PM
Since I assume there is no name change involved, SSA isn't going to know you are married unless you tell on yourself. So another option is to take off the ring and try another SSA office and keep your mouth shut about being married.
mohamed N melinda
May 9 2008, 11:15 PM
QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:11 AM)

Since I assume there is no name change involved, SSA isn't going to know you are married unless you tell on yourself. So another option is to take off the ring and try another SSA office and keep your mouth shut about being married.
i will do that on monday and try to go to another office neer me
I Quit
May 9 2008, 11:19 PM
QUOTE(mohamed N melinda @ May 10 2008, 12:15 AM)

QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:11 AM)

Since I assume there is no name change involved, SSA isn't going to know you are married unless you tell on yourself. So another option is to take off the ring and try another SSA office and keep your mouth shut about being married.
i will do that on monday and try to go to another office neer me
http://www.ssa.gov/locator
island_princess
May 10 2008, 11:28 AM
I arrived here in the US with a K-3 spousal visa. I tried to acquire SSN, but they did not give it since I had no Greencard or EAD yet. This is what I don't understand about the SSN process. A fiancee visa holder can get an SSN, even before the marriage, while a K-3 spousal visa can not. To think, the K-3's I-94 validity is two years.
island_princess
May 10 2008, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:19 PM)

QUOTE(mohamed N melinda @ May 10 2008, 12:15 AM)

QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:11 AM)

Since I assume there is no name change involved, SSA isn't going to know you are married unless you tell on yourself. So another option is to take off the ring and try another SSA office and keep your mouth shut about being married.
i will do that on monday and try to go to another office neer me
http://www.ssa.gov/locatorIf I were you, I would not do that. That's very deceitful, and not recommended especially when your immigration status is vulnerable.
David-Mae Forever
May 10 2008, 11:45 AM
QUOTE(island_princess @ May 10 2008, 11:28 AM)

I arrived here in the US with a K-3 spousal visa. I tried to acquire SSN, but they did not give it since I had no Greencard or EAD yet. This is what I don't understand about the SSN process. A fiancee visa holder can get an SSN, even before the marriage, while a K-3 spousal visa can not. To think, the K-3's I-94 validity is two years.
As far as I know, it is due to the fact that K1 is work authorized and K3 is not...
--Mae
island_princess
May 10 2008, 12:58 PM
A K-1 can work, with a I-94 validity of 90 days, while a K-3 has 2 years validity. In esense they are they same - need to do AOS stateside. Confusing.
QUOTE(David-Mae Forever @ May 11 2008, 12:45 AM)

QUOTE(island_princess @ May 10 2008, 11:28 AM)

I arrived here in the US with a K-3 spousal visa. I tried to acquire SSN, but they did not give it since I had no Greencard or EAD yet. This is what I don't understand about the SSN process. A fiancee visa holder can get an SSN, even before the marriage, while a K-3 spousal visa can not. To think, the K-3's I-94 validity is two years.
As far as I know, it is due to the fact that K1 is work authorized and K3 is not...
--Mae
I Quit
May 10 2008, 01:35 PM
QUOTE(island_princess @ May 10 2008, 12:28 PM)

I arrived here in the US with a K-3 spousal visa. I tried to acquire SSN, but they did not give it since I had no Greencard or EAD yet. This is what I don't understand about the SSN process. A fiancee visa holder can get an SSN, even before the marriage, while a K-3 spousal visa can not. To think, the K-3's I-94 validity is two years.
For about the 100th time. At one time SSA also required a K-1 to have an EAD card or work authorization stamp to be assigned a work authorized SSN, but INS at that time was having trouble getting EAD cards out to K-1s under the A6 catagory while the K-1 status was still valid, so the infamous EM-00154 was issued. K-3s don't have the A6 option or any real worry about status expiring before the EAD card arrives.
I Quit
May 10 2008, 01:37 PM
QUOTE(island_princess @ May 10 2008, 12:30 PM)

QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:19 PM)

QUOTE(mohamed N melinda @ May 10 2008, 12:15 AM)

QUOTE(I Quit @ May 10 2008, 12:11 AM)

Since I assume there is no name change involved, SSA isn't going to know you are married unless you tell on yourself. So another option is to take off the ring and try another SSA office and keep your mouth shut about being married.
i will do that on monday and try to go to another office neer me
http://www.ssa.gov/locatorIf I were you, I would not do that. That's very deceitful, and not recommended especially when your immigration status is vulnerable.
No it isn't since being married or not is not a requirement to be assigned an SSN and the SSA office was wrong to have not taking the application in the first place.
mohamed N melinda
May 12 2008, 12:25 PM
we went to SSN office . in thirsday he told me i cant have my SSN now just iafter i have my EAD . then we went today and i printed some papers from social security website that show i can have it . so he is like i am sorry and i already applied for it Alhamodlilah
TracyTN
May 12 2008, 12:30 PM
Great news!
cellarlily
May 12 2008, 02:00 PM
Good news!
Same thing happened to my husband. He ended up going to a different SS office, didn't mention being married and he had no problems. It's frustrating that not all of the SS employees know their own rules, but if you equip yourself with the proper documentation, you'll have a much better chance.
mohamed N melinda
May 12 2008, 02:17 PM
yes we went to the same office but had papers show him he was wrong so he aplogize!!!
I Quit
May 12 2008, 04:10 PM
As I said you would be doing nothing wrong by going to another office, since that office was wrong to not take the application in the first place.
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