i have a few questions. i live in Minneapolis, Mn.
what service center do i send this to? What is the processing time?
I will be applying based on part 2 answer B, 3 yr GC, married to a US born citizen for the past 3 years.
Parts 6 & 7 ask for employement history and Time out of US information. Since I have been only in the USA since fall of 2004 Do I include:
The info when i was in the philippines? the time i spent outside the United States before i arrived in the USA??? kind of confusion.
Please help
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QUOTE(RDan19 @ May 4 2008, 03:45 PM) 
i have a few questions. i live in Minneapolis, Mn.
what service center do i send this to? What is the processing time?
I will be applying based on part 2 answer B, 3 yr GC, married to a US born citizen for the past 3 years.
Parts 6 & 7 ask for employement history and Time out of US information. Since I have been only in the USA since fall of 2004 Do I include:
The info when i was in the philippines? the time i spent outside the United States before i arrived in the USA??? kind of confusion.
Please help
what service center do i send this to? What is the processing time?
I will be applying based on part 2 answer B, 3 yr GC, married to a US born citizen for the past 3 years.
Parts 6 & 7 ask for employement history and Time out of US information. Since I have been only in the USA since fall of 2004 Do I include:
The info when i was in the philippines? the time i spent outside the United States before i arrived in the USA??? kind of confusion.
Please help
below is the link of the address to send your application.
Application for Naturalization
About the employment history- the companies you worked for, your job title, your starting and ending dates of employment, prior or current jobs or occupations.
if your conditional permanent resident you have to remove your conditional status before you can apply for citizenship. 3 years as a permanent resident based on married to a US Citizen but you can apply before you meet your 3 years (minus 90 days) anniversary as a PR.
You only have to write the trips you made outside the US since becoming a Permanent Resident.
I'm hope this helps.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
sounds like we both came to the us around the same time in 2004. i actually counted the days from january 2003 to october 2004 when i came here and included a letter of explanation that i hadn't left the u.s. since coming here in 2004 on a k1 visa. i also listed all my jobs for the past 5 years. i also listed trips to hong kong and china in june 2004 prior to my relocation here and wrote an explanation about it. i haven't been approved so i couldn't tell you if that was right.
More crazy redundant questions.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
QUOTE(NickD @ May 5 2008, 06:27 PM)
More crazy redundant questions.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
First of all no question is a redundant or bad question. If I had the answer i wouldn't post it here. This certainly beats paying a immigration attorney 1000+ dollars and they will make you do all the leg work anyway.
SO how would you answer part 7b if you were a frequent traveler while still residing in your previous country. She cant recall all the trips she took outside the philippines. I guess i'm being carefull due to the fact that i dont want some pencil pusher to give us a hard time (RFE) since the question is clearly no stated well for the answer.
They should have different application for the 3 year and the 5 year citizenship requirements since the answer can be different in how USCIS ask the questions.
Did you hear back from USCIS?
QUOTE(RDan19 @ May 5 2008, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE(NickD @ May 5 2008, 06:27 PM)
More crazy redundant questions.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
Part 6 reads, "Where have you lived during the last five years? Begin with where you live now and then list every place you lived for the last five
years. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper."
Since my wife hasn't lived here five years yet, we clearly showed the dates she lived in her home country and here, this took some time in digging up records.
Part 7 asks. "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?' Using the information provided above, I used my days between dates program and came up with 396 days plus with also took one trip that lasted for 8 days for a total of 404 days. The question does ask how many total days did my wife spend outside of the USA in the last five years, right? That is how many days she spent in the last five years outside of the USA. 404 days.
Then they ask, "How many trips of 24 hours or more have you taken outside of the United States during the past five years?" Again five years, she has only taking one trip outside of the USA in the last five years, so we answered 1.
Then they ask, "List below all the trips of 24 hours or more that you have taken outside of the United States since becoming a Lawful
Permanent Resident. Begin with your most recent trip. If you need more space, use a separate sheet(s) of paper." This is the first time they mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident. None of the dates before this time mention since becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident., this is the first time they specify that. I was glad I saved the plane tickets to have records of those dates.
For employment, I showed her as being unemployed from the time she arrived here until two days after she received her EAD, with her skills, she found a job very quickly, but was not authorized to work during that time.
Then five years from what date? The day I was filling that out, the day of her green card anniversary, or the date we signed the application that was 88 days before her anniversary. Since her signature appeared next to the application signed date, that anywhere else in the world is the legal date, so I elected to use the application date as the reference for that five year period.
Right or wrong, all the dates match up and we have proof of those dates and we answered those questions to the best of our ability, but the single N-400 does cover a number of different types of applicants with different eligibility dates.
First of all no question is a redundant or bad question. If I had the answer i wouldn't post the question anymore here. This certainly beats paying a immigration attorney 1000+ dollars and they will make you do all the leg work anyway.
SO how would you answer part 7b if you were a frequent traveler while still residing in your previous country. She cant recall all the trips she took outside the philippines. I guess i'm being carefull due to the fact that i dont want some pencil pusher to give us a hard time (RFE) since the question is clearly no stated well for the answer.
They should have different application for the 3 year and the 5 year citizenship requirements since the answer can be different in how USCIS ask the questions.
Did you hear back from USCIS?
"Did you hear back from USCIS?"
Sure did, Receipt notice, biometric appointment, unfortunately they gave us an appointment in Milwaukee, and we already had made an appointment well in advance for the Venezuelan Consulate in Chicago as I thought we should renew my wife's and daughter's passport in case we needed that for the I-551 as their new green cards haven't come in yet. But they were in our mailbox when we came home that night. And we have the option of getting my wife's 3rd set of fingerprints on any Wednesday at noon in Milwaukee on a walk in basis. Provided it's not some kind of holiday reserved only for government employees. Ha, they said that, not me.
I sent a new copy of my wife's new green card as an update to her N-400 application in place of her expired one and one year extension notice.
Believe I read it should three hours to fill out the N-400, had to read that M-476 manual first, compile all the dates, and make over a half inch thick printed on both sides proof and documentation. Took more like three days to fill that out plus a little help from my attorney on some of the more nebulous questions.
Should have been warned about those dates.
Sure did, Receipt notice, biometric appointment, unfortunately they gave us an appointment in Milwaukee, and we already had made an appointment well in advance for the Venezuelan Consulate in Chicago as I thought we should renew my wife's and daughter's passport in case we needed that for the I-551 as their new green cards haven't come in yet. But they were in our mailbox when we came home that night. And we have the option of getting my wife's 3rd set of fingerprints on any Wednesday at noon in Milwaukee on a walk in basis. Provided it's not some kind of holiday reserved only for government employees. Ha, they said that, not me.
I sent a new copy of my wife's new green card as an update to her N-400 application in place of her expired one and one year extension notice.
Believe I read it should three hours to fill out the N-400, had to read that M-476 manual first, compile all the dates, and make over a half inch thick printed on both sides proof and documentation. Took more like three days to fill that out plus a little help from my attorney on some of the more nebulous questions.
Should have been warned about those dates.
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