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almaty
questions in this area...


One, is it essential to have 2 of these?

also, did you get them notarized?

and the basis content of such affidavits?
jsouthwick
QUOTE(almaty @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM) *
questions in this area...


One, is it essential to have 2 of these?

also, did you get them notarized?

and the basis content of such affidavits?


We had each side neighbor sign an affidavit we prepared for them. I believe it had their name address, date and place of birth. Don't remember if it was notarized or not. USCIS asks for them so I definitely would provide them. If you are a regular church attender have your priest or minister fill one out, I believe such an affidavit carries a lot of weight.
almaty
thanks for the info..
Minfay
I'm an over-achiever....I sent in six. Here is an example of one of them:

BEFORE THE UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY


IN RE: Joint Petition of )
XXXXX and XXXXX to ) A# XXX_XXX_XXX
Remove Conditions on Residence )
ofXXXXXXX )


AFFIDAVIT OF: XXXXX


BEFORE ME, the undersigned authority, personally appeared XXXX XXXXX who, after being first duly sworn and cautioned upon her oath, deposes and states:

1. My name is XXXXXX XXXXX. I live at XXXXXXXX, USA. I was born in Senatobia, Mississippi, USA on February 5, 1942. I have personal knowledge of the facts set forth herein.

2. I have known XXXX since 2002. We met while painting ceramics.

3. My husband, XXXX, and I have enjoyed the company of XXX and XXX on many occasions. While we going out for dinner occasionally, we have established a couple of annual events that we particularly look forward to. For the past two years we have spent Christmas Eve with them and have attended a local charitable function held annually in the summer. XXX wants XXX to enjoy the social and cultural experiences of his new home. My husband and our son have introduced XXX to baseball by taking him to a Chicago Cubs game.

4. XXX told me about her relationship with XXX in 2004. The joy on her face and in her voice said her heart love. I have spent many hours painting and talking, listening and counseling. It was our honor to witness them take their vows. It is our honor to see that marriage blossom.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT


XXXXX XXXXXX

STATE OF ILLINOIS )
) ss:
COUNTY OF C O O K )

Sworn to and subscribed before me this ______ day of ………..2008, by XXXXX, who personally appeared before me, is personally known to me or produced ………………as identification, and did take an oath.


Notary:
Print Name:
Notary Public, State of:
My commission expires:

*Marilyn*
you can send them in if you want but they are not a necessity specially if you have a lot of other evidence... they are mainly looking to see if your finances are intermingled etc...

I did not send in any affidavits and i was approved..
tsunamihart
I used the templates from this site, had some friends and some neighbors sign them, then got them notarized. I know you don't have to do everything that is on the list of recommendations for the I 751 but I didn't take any chances, I made them up a nice folder with everything on the list with good documentation. I figure I'd rather have overkill then get a notice telling me I forgot something and waiting on the system... I still get nightmares about empty desks with stacks of paper 4 feet high... wacko.gif
Tammi
Did not send in any, and we were approved. We had a ton of evidence and didn't feel the need to send in the optional letters. If was going to though, I'd probably get them notarized.
russian_armenian
QUOTE(jsouthwick @ Apr 22 2008, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE(almaty @ Apr 22 2008, 10:00 AM) *
questions in this area...


One, is it essential to have 2 of these?

also, did you get them notarized?

and the basis content of such affidavits?


We had each side neighbor sign an affidavit we prepared for them. I believe it had their name address, date and place of birth. Don't remember if it was notarized or not. USCIS asks for them so I definitely would provide them. If you are a regular church attender have your priest or minister fill one out, I believe such an affidavit carries a lot of weight.

Lawers believe that affidevits carry a little weight-weakeast proof. But they have to be notarized if you want to send them (and from US ctzns or GC holders)
Haole
Pretty simple!
If USCIS clearly ask for them in the instruction do them.
Why take a chance even if others were approved without submitting them.
Anyone that has gone thru all the BS to get to removing conditions should know by now to do what "The Man" ask for!!! headbonk.gif
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Haole @ Apr 23 2008, 03:34 PM) *
Pretty simple!
If USCIS clearly ask for them in the instruction do them.
Why take a chance even if others were approved without submitting them.
Anyone that has gone thru all the BS to get to removing conditions should know by now to do what "The Man" ask for!!! headbonk.gif

umm, the instructions clearly state that the following list are examples.... if that whole list is required evidence, how is a person who doesn't have any kids supposed to submit a birth certificate???

QUOTE
The documents should cover, but not limited to,the following examples:
1. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to the marriage.

2. Lease or mortgage contracts showing joint occupancy and/or ownership of your communal residence.

3. Financial records showing joint ownership of assets and joint responsibility for liabilities, such as joint savings and checking accounts, joint federal and state tax returns, insurance policies that show the other spouse as the beneficiary, joint utility bills, joint installments or other loans.

4. Other documents you consider relevant to establish that your marriage was not entered into in order to evade the U.S. immigration laws.

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by at least two people who have known both of you since your conditional residence was granted and have personal knowledge of your marriage and relationship. (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit.) The original affidavit must be submitted and also contain the following information regarding the person making the affidavit: his or her full name and address; date and place of birth; relationship to you or your spouse, if any; and full information and complete details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge. Affidavits must be supported by other types of evidence listed above.


http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD
Pseud
I don't think we sent any in at first, and we had lacked evidence such as joint mortgages because when we opened the account they didn't want my name on it because i was 'conditional' etc - they were scared to commit to me because in their eyes my status wasn't secure.

Then we got RFE'ed.

We got about six or seven affadavits from friends - even one from my home country who had visited. One came from a US Navy officer and was notarized. The rest were just statements. We asked them to write it in their own words but to include the information that USCIS request. We also sent in a couple of other things - car insurance statement, one electricity statement with both our names on (that I had called up and explained the situation to the elec company and got them to assist)

I just found out yesterday that 'card production' had been ordered... so, I think it pays to include some. IMO.
*Marilyn*
QUOTE(Pseud @ Apr 23 2008, 09:24 PM) *
I don't think we sent any in at first, and we had lacked evidence such as joint mortgages because when we opened the account they didn't want my name on it because i was 'conditional' etc - they were scared to commit to me because in their eyes my status wasn't secure.

Then we got RFE'ed.

We got about six or seven affadavits from friends - even one from my home country who had visited. One came from a US Navy officer and was notarized. The rest were just statements. We asked them to write it in their own words but to include the information that USCIS request. We also sent in a couple of other things - car insurance statement, one electricity statement with both our names on (that I had called up and explained the situation to the elec company and got them to assist)

I just found out yesterday that 'card production' had been ordered... so, I think it pays to include some. IMO.

I am not saying you shouldn't include affidavits.... but if you have plenty of other evidence I think it is ok not to send them... and like you said you didn't have a joint mortgage so they probably wanted to see more proof......
russian_armenian
QUOTE(Haole @ Apr 23 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Pretty simple!
If USCIS clearly ask for them in the instruction do them.
Why take a chance even if others were approved without submitting them.
Anyone that has gone thru all the BS to get to removing conditions should know by now to do what "The Man" ask for!!! headbonk.gif

You see, my lawer has about 20 years of immigration experience-and talks to immg officers on everyday basis. He was very clear that I should not bother with affidevits. I was surprised-but why should I argue with professional about simple matter. Personally, I think it would not hurt to include. But if you have bunch of other stuff and do not want to bother friends/relatives, why overkill.
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