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Ganja_Girl
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Culture shock, adjustment period, blahblahblahhhhhh. I'm so sick of hearing all of this. Come to America to be with the love of your life (supposidely) and be a MAN about it. Don't go searching on porn a few days after you get here and look for women to have sex with. I can't believe ANYONE would make excuses for that behaviour. I commend the OP for being as strong as she was and got rid of him before she made an even bigger mistake. Good for you, OP!!! I wish you luck in your decision in the future.


What I think also, he was a jerk.

melusine
agree.. not acceptable whatever adjustment or cultural shock
rebeccajo
I can't help but wonder what the reaction to this type of post would have been had the USC been male and the beneficiary a woman.
Sheherazade
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Apr 26 2008, 07:19 PM) *
I can't help but wonder what the reaction to this type of post would have been had the USC been male and the beneficiary a woman.


I don't see why there would be any difference. wacko.gif Its a terrible behaviour regardless of the person.
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(Paula&Minya @ Apr 22 2008, 01:02 PM) *
I saw that too. huh.gif Dunno about anyone else, but I couldn't send the "love of my life, my future husband" back to his home country because of some mood swings(read adjustment type behavior) and some 'very innapropriate' (read porn) material downloaded onto my PC. It would be time for a serious discussion to see how we fix the problem, but no him returning from whence he came after just one week her would not be an option at that early a stage. Just MO.

-P

Pardon??

You find the 'love of your life' trawling for women online merely a few WEEKS after you are together and you forgive it because it's MOOD SWINGS?????????????

Thank goodness the OP has more sense that you do.....
JaEnglishGirl
QUOTE(jannaxhitti @ Apr 22 2008, 01:26 PM) *
QUOTE(Paula&Minya @ Apr 22 2008, 01:02 PM) *
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Apr 22 2008, 12:48 PM) *
Am I reading correctly that your fiance just arrived April 12?


I saw that too. huh.gif Dunno about anyone else, but I couldn't send the "love of my life, my future husband" back to his home country because of some mood swings(read adjustment type behavior) and some 'very innapropriate' (read porn) material downloaded onto my PC. It would be time for a serious discussion to see how we fix the problem, but no him returning from whence he came after just one week her would not be an option at that early a stage. Just MO.

-P


Mood swings? He told me on his 4th day here that I needed to change my friends because he didn't like them. On his 3rd day here (the day I went back to work), he looked at over 60 porn websites, and each day after was the same, over and over. And on his 6th day here, he started searching personal ads, and no I don't mean "man seeking woman for friendly conversation", I mean "findhornygirls.com" with the search criteria of "male, 26, seeking female 18-35 for SEX in Minneapolis".
And it's not JUST that... when I asked him about this, he became extremely defensive and denied the whole thing (even though we were sitting in front of the computer at the time) and told me that I was insane and making these crazy things up. He said he didn't want to marry someone with mental issues who would contrive such things and "judge" people in such ways. He told me that I was a terrible person with no morals. So basically-- he turned everything he is and pointed it at me. And I'm sorry, but I don't deserve that. I have given my heart and my soul to this man, and I don't need to be treated like this.
If you were to meet this man, you would probably think that he is kind, sweet, gentle, and a complete gentleman. I used to think this too. And believe it or not, part of me still does. He had me caught under a spell-- he could say the meanest, most degrading thing to me and 15 minutes later, I would be back in his arms, smiling and happy. He is so eerily charming... and when I think about all these things, I realize that I've heard similar stories from women who've been abused. Their husband beats the crap out of them and the next morning, everything is hunky-dorey. I don't know if he would have ever become physically abusive... and I'll never know. But I do know that the emotional abuse was enough.

So please don't judge me for "sending him away" after such a short time. This was supposed to be the "honeymoon stage" of our relationship. And if he is treating me this way now, how will he treat me 1, 5, 15 years down the road?

I believe I have made the right decision. And I appreciate all of you who are here to support me, not judge me.


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I am convinced you've done what's best for YOU....I would have done EXACTLY the SAME!!!
What you did is what any SANE, REASONABLE person would do.....For those who claim they wouldn't, one must wonder just HOW difficult it was for them to find someone, since they are obviously willing to put up with ANYTHING to keep him unsure.gif
BabyBlueSusie
I am soooo sorry that you had to go through this Janna, sad.gif but I hope that you will continue to keep in touch, because I have enjoyed corresponding with you.

I agree that there is no excuse for this behavior (looking for sex on the web), and that you did the right thing. Adjustment is one thing, but cheating (or attempting to do so) is deceitful and inexcusable.

With regards to the other things you said about him being controlling and so on, that is, unfortunately, a stereotypical characteristic of Albanian men. Of course they are not all like this, but many of the things Creel said are true with respect to speaking with other men, cooking, cleaning, etc. It is just a matter of how willing both parties are to compromise on these matters.

These sorts of things I could attribute to cultural difference, but cheating is one thing that I absolutely could not. Cheating is looked down upon in Albanian culture far more than in American/Italian culture (I mention those two because they are the two cultures that I have personal experience with). It is considered, as it should be, to be the lowest of all lows.

I honestly don't know where he gets off thinking that he could just walk into your home and do the things that he did. I am glad that you put him in his place and showed him that such behavior would not be tolerated.

I hope that you don't feel as though you did anything wrong, and that you will look to the future for comfort. Afterall, who knows what it has in store for you? tongue.gif

Wendy, I am glad that you are ready for your fiancee to come here and act like a complete @ss, because it is guaranteed to happen!! laughing.gif laughing.gif

Ladies - I am starting the thread now!!
william_wallace
Well i have had a similar experience. Maybe not as bad but bad enough for the the relationship to go t*ts up. My ex wife who is a US citizen totally changed after she filed the 1-130. Everything before that was totally perfect. But soon as she filed, she totally changed. Her attitude, i got totally ignored, i was told to sleep on the couch, she started taking mood swings and i mean serious mood swings. She would go on adultfriendfinder.com, i thought WTF, i found out that she was moving to Colorado in which she denied, i tried and tried to talk to her, she would just totally blank me out. As you say the honeymoon period. I think ours lasted little over 2 months. I tried in vain for a few weeks to get it sorted out but it was like farting against thunder. That when i knew it was time for me to go back to the UK.

Its just a shame that some of these LDR's dont work. I feel for anyone that goes through it. It's not a nice feeling at all. Oh about 1 month after i arrived in the UK, yep she moved to Colorado, to another man lol
morocco4ever
QUOTE(jannaxhitti @ Apr 22 2008, 02:26 PM) *
QUOTE(Paula&Minya @ Apr 22 2008, 01:02 PM) *
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Apr 22 2008, 12:48 PM) *
Am I reading correctly that your fiance just arrived April 12?


I saw that too. huh.gif Dunno about anyone else, but I couldn't send the "love of my life, my future husband" back to his home country because of some mood swings(read adjustment type behavior) and some 'very innapropriate' (read porn) material downloaded onto my PC. It would be time for a serious discussion to see how we fix the problem, but no him returning from whence he came after just one week her would not be an option at that early a stage. Just MO.

-P


Mood swings? He told me on his 4th day here that I needed to change my friends because he didn't like them. On his 3rd day here (the day I went back to work), he looked at over 60 porn websites, and each day after was the same, over and over. And on his 6th day here, he started searching personal ads, and no I don't mean "man seeking woman for friendly conversation", I mean "findhornygirls.com" with the search criteria of "male, 26, seeking female 18-35 for SEX in Minneapolis".
And it's not JUST that... when I asked him about this, he became extremely defensive and denied the whole thing (even though we were sitting in front of the computer at the time) and told me that I was insane and making these crazy things up. He said he didn't want to marry someone with mental issues who would contrive such things and "judge" people in such ways. He told me that I was a terrible person with no morals. So basically-- he turned everything he is and pointed it at me. And I'm sorry, but I don't deserve that. I have given my heart and my soul to this man, and I don't need to be treated like this.
If you were to meet this man, you would probably think that he is kind, sweet, gentle, and a complete gentleman. I used to think this too. And believe it or not, part of me still does. He had me caught under a spell-- he could say the meanest, most degrading thing to me and 15 minutes later, I would be back in his arms, smiling and happy. He is so eerily charming... and when I think about all these things, I realize that I've heard similar stories from women who've been abused. Their husband beats the crap out of them and the next morning, everything is hunky-dorey. I don't know if he would have ever become physically abusive... and I'll never know. But I do know that the emotional abuse was enough.

So please don't judge me for "sending him away" after such a short time. This was supposed to be the "honeymoon stage" of our relationship. And if he is treating me this way now, how will he treat me 1, 5, 15 years down the road?

I believe I have made the right decision. And I appreciate all of you who are here to support me, not judge me.


Wow....just wow. Sorry I am so late in replying, but I haven't been to this forum much. I probably should stay away as many have suggested.

Honey you made the right decision. There is a name for this personality trait 'Passive Aggressive'. This is by far the worst personality type. I was married to one for 15 years, they do not change. They make their little worlds around justifying their actions, and if they are caught doing what is unacceptable they either deny it or blame it on you. Their world is reality, and its a scary reality.

Do I think he used you? No. But I don't think he would change either. Good luck on what your future holds for you.
Completely
QUOTE(jannaxhitti @ Apr 21 2008, 10:04 PM) *
Hello all. I'm writing once again for some advice and hope that someone can help me out. After 8 months of being separated and waiting for his visa, after going to the interview and passing everything with flying colors, after arriving here in the US and finally being together... I found out that the man I was engaged to was a stranger.

Once here, half the time he was the man I remember; and the other half, he was controlling and manipulative. He also used my computer daily while I was at work to download VERY inappropriate things and to also seek out other women in Minneapolis.

I am broken-hearted... we (or maybe was it just I?) worked so hard throughout this visa process to ensure that everything would work out with the paperwork, the embassy, etc... and of course sometimes relationships don't work out, but this is all just too much. I discovered all of these things on Saturday and he was on a plane tonight, by my choice and his as well. (He still won't admit he did these things although the evidence is all on my computer... he says I've made it all up and that I'm a terrible person for being so judgmental.)

I am wondering--- I know with the I-134, I signed saying that I have all financial responsibility for him. Is that only when he is in the US?? Now that he's on his way back to Europe, am I okay or still liable? Am I safe to just let this visa expire, knowing that he can't re-enter the US? What are the necessary precautions I need to take??

I can't believe this is all happening. Please, someone, say something. cray5ol.gif


I am sorry that this happened to you, but you know cheer up! there is always someone for you up there.. Dont worry and everything will be okay..

Try to read this piece that I got from the website .. I forgot who is the author of this, but whoever he is this helped me a lot to understand the things about marriage..


I have never met a man who didn't want to be loved.
But I have seldom met a man who didn't fear
marriage.
Something about the closure seems constricting, not
enabling. Marriage seems easier to understand for
what
it cuts out of our lives than for what it makes
possible within our lives.

When I was younger this fear immobilized me. I did
not
want to make a mistake.I saw my friends get married
for reasons of social acceptability, or sexual
fever,
or just because they thought it was the logical
thing
to do. Then I watched, as they and their partners
became embittered and petty in their dealings with
each other. I looked at older couples and saw, at
best, mutual toleration of each other. I imagined a
lifetime of loveless nights and bickering days and
could not imagine subjecting myself or someone else
to
such a fate.

And yet, on rare occasions, I would see old couples
who somehow seemed to glow in each other's presence.
They seemed really in love, not just dependent upon
each other and tolerant of each other's foibles. It
was an astounding sight, and it seemed impossible.
How, I asked myself, can they have survived so many
years of sameness, so much irritation at the others
habits? What keeps love alive in them, when most of
us
seem unable to even stay together, much less love
each

other?

The central secret seems to be in choosing well.
There
is something to the claim of fundamental
compatibility. Good people can create a bad
relationship, even though they both dearly want the
relationship to succeed. It is important to find
someone with whom you can create a good relationship
from t! he outset. Unfortunately, it is hard to see
clearly in the early stages.

Sexual hunger draws you to each other and colors the
way you see yourselves together. It blinds you to
the
thousands of little things by which relationships
eventually survive or fail. You need to find a way
to
see beyond this initial overwhelming sexual
fascination. Some people choose to involve
themselves
sexually and ride out the most heated period of
sexual
attraction in order to see what is on the other
side.

This can work, but it can also leave a trail of
wounded hearts. Others deny the sexual side
altogether
in an attempt to get to know each other apart from
their sexuality. But they cannot see clearly,
because
the presence of unfulfilled sexual desire looms so
large that it keeps them from having any normal
perception of what life would be like together.

The truly lucky people are the ones who manage to
become long-time friends before they realize they
are
attracted to each other. They get to know each
other's
laughs, passions, sadness, and fears. They see each
other at their worst and at their best. They share
time together before they get swept up into the
entangling intimacy of their sexuality.

This is the ideal, but not often possible. If you
fall
under the spell of your sexual attraction
immediately,
you need to look beyond it for other keys to
compatibility. One of these is laughter. Laughter
tells you how much you will enjoy each others
company
over the long term.

If your laughter together is good and healthy, and
not
at the expense of others, then you have a healthy
relationship to the world. Laughter is the child of
surprise. If you can make each other laugh, you can
always surprise each other. And if you can always
surprise each other, you can always keep the world
around you new.

Beware of a relationship in which there is no
laughter. Even the most intimate relationships based
only on seriousness have a tendency to turn sour.
Over
time, sharing a common serious viewpoint on the
world
tends to turn you against those who do not share the
same viewpoint, and your relationship can become
based
on being critical together.

After laughter, look for a partner who deals with
the
world in a way you respect. When two people first
get
together, they tend to see their relationship as
existing only in the space between the two of them.
They find each other endlessly fascinating, and the
overwhelming power of the emotions they are sharing
obscures the outside world. As the relationship ages
and grows, the outside world becomes important
again.
If your partner treats people or circumstances in a
way you can't accept, you will inevitably come to
grief. Look at the way she cares for others
and deals with the daily affairs of life. If that
makes you love her more, your love will grow. If it
does not, be careful. If you do not respect the way
you each deal with the world around you, eventually
the two of you will not respect each other.

Look also at how your partner confronts the
mysteries
of life. We live on the cusp of poetry and
practicality, and the real life of the heart resides
in the poetic. If one of you is deeply affected by
the mystery of the unseen in life and relationships,
while the other is drawn only to the literal and the
practical, you must take care that the distance does
not become an unbridgeable gap that leaves you each
feeling isolated and misunderstood.
There are many other keys, but you must find them by
yourself. We all have unchangeable parts of our
hearts
that we will not betray and private commitments to a
vision of life that we will not deny. If you fall
in
love with someone who cannot nourish those
inviolable
parts of you, or if you cannot nourish them in her,
you will find yourselves growing further apart until
you live in separate worlds where you share the
business of life, but never touch each other where
the
heart lives and dreams. From there it is only a
small
leap to the cataloging of petty hurts and
daily failures that leaves so many couples bitter
and
unsatisfied with their mates.

So choose carefully and well. If you do, you will
have
chosen a partner with whom you can grow, and then
the
real miracle of marriage can take place in your
hearts. I pick my words carefully when I speak of a
miracle. But I think it is not too strong a word.
There is a miracle in marriage. It is called
transformation. Transformation is one of the most
common events of nature. The seed becomes the
flower.
The cocoon becomes the butterfly. Winter becomes
spring and love becomes a child. We never question
these, because we se! e them around us every day. To
us they are not miracles, though if we did not know
them they would be impossible to believe.

Marriage is a transformation we choose to make. Our
love is planted like a seed, and in time it begins
to
flower. We cannot know the flower that will blossom,
but we can be sure that a bloom will come.

If you have chosen carefully and wisely, the bloom
will be good. If you have chosen poorly or for the
wrong reason, the bloom will be flawed.
We are quite willing to accept the reality of
negative
transformation in a marriage. It was negative
transformation that always had me terrified
of the bitter marriages that I feared when I was
younger. It never occurred to me to question the
dark

motu
I think if something that drastic happens - you have to kick him out like you did. It holds true if it happens after 4 days or 14 years - its inexcusable.That said I got a kick out of the story - he is looking for sex online and you put him on a plane to Amsterdam - all he needs now is a few Euros to go to the red district rofl.gif
He is probably laughing and telling stories to his drinking buddies about his short visit to the states and his fun with porn and the sexcapades in Amsterdam.
jundp
QUOTE(jannaxhitti @ Apr 22 2008, 10:54 PM) *
I don't even know how I can thank you all for your responses and your support... These past few days have been like something I could have never imagined. I am feeling so many emotions right now--- relief yet remorse, liberation yet complete devastation. I know that this will come to pass... I will heal, and some day this will be a story I can tell that will be educational and somewhat amusing maybe... how could I have put all of myself into something and someone who turned out to be like this??? How could I not have seen the things I now see? Once I have taken a step back, things are so much more clear. There are red flags that I could have paid attention to long ago, but I chose to ignore them in the name of love. I know it is cliche, but "hindsight is 20/20".

The things you all have said to me over the past day have been invaluable and have literally kept me moving along. And I must move along, march forward... inside I know that what I have done is the best for me, but that doesn't necessarily make it hurt any less...

All I can say to all of you is thank you, merci, danke, tack, gracias, grazie, falmenderit...


janna,
you are very strong it seems. You ask how you could have seen this? I don't think you could have. There's cultural differences and then there are azzholes! And they live in America too. My ex was manipulative and turned out to be someone I didn't really know, so we definitely can find these types of men anywhere in the world!

I wish you great happiness as you pick up and move on with your life. rose.gif
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