Since my tax return money landed in my bank account this week, I assume they finally assigned my wife her ITN (i had sent in all that stuff needed to get it with my paper return).
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
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QUOTE(HOHOHO @ Apr 15 2008, 03:20 PM) 
Since my tax return money landed in my bank account this week, I assume they finally assigned my wife her ITN (i had sent in all that stuff needed to get it with my paper return).
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
Yes, I got the paper copy of ITIN, couple of days before the federal refund direct deposit.
Yours will be in the mail and will get soon.
Is it true that if you file for ITIN for your spouse you are not eligible for tax stimulus refund? I know you are not elegible if you file married filing jointly but I thought I also heard that if you request an ITIN for your spouse you are not entitled to that refund. Is this true. I heard another VJ'er say that this is what the IRS told her after she filed her return.
I have a few more hours til I need to get these taxes in the mail and I'm not sure if I want to put the W7 request in there or not. AUGH!!!!!
I have a few more hours til I need to get these taxes in the mail and I'm not sure if I want to put the W7 request in there or not. AUGH!!!!!
QUOTE(HOHOHO @ Apr 15 2008, 03:20 PM)
Since my tax return money landed in my bank account this week, I assume they finally assigned my wife her ITN (i had sent in all that stuff needed to get it with my paper return).
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
I received the paper copy but my taxes wont be deposited until Apr 29 (according to website)
QUOTE(Marlita @ Apr 15 2008, 03:43 PM)
Is it true that if you file for ITIN for your spouse you are not eligible for tax stimulus refund? I know you are not elegible if you file married filing jointly but I thought I also heard that if you request an ITIN for your spouse you are not entitled to that refund. Is this true. I heard another VJ'er say that this is what the IRS told her after she filed her return.
I have a few more hours til I need to get these taxes in the mail and I'm not sure if I want to put the W7 request in there or not. AUGH!!!!!
I have a few more hours til I need to get these taxes in the mail and I'm not sure if I want to put the W7 request in there or not. AUGH!!!!!
Here is your answer under ITIN
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
You can claim your tax rebate when you file 2008 retun next year. So, if you are worried about 1 year interest, do not include ITIN now, but that will reduce your rebate check amount.
the IRS sent ahmed a letter asking for basically the same papers i included in the application attached to my tax form. I called and they wouldnt talk to me because its HIS number so im assuming if they put their foreign address they will be the one to know the number first
QUOTE(Marlita @ Apr 15 2008, 03:43 PM)
Is it true that if you file for ITIN for your spouse you are not eligible for tax stimulus refund? I know you are not elegible if you file married filing jointly but I thought I also heard that if you request an ITIN for your spouse you are not entitled to that refund. Is this true.
What? Tell me it's not so. I read before that even filing MFJ with the spouse requesting an ITIN you'd still get the stimulus for one person ($600), just not the $1200 you'd get normally filing MFJ with a resident spouse with an SSN.
QUOTE(badspellor @ Apr 15 2008, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE(Marlita @ Apr 15 2008, 03:43 PM)
Is it true that if you file for ITIN for your spouse you are not eligible for tax stimulus refund? I know you are not elegible if you file married filing jointly but I thought I also heard that if you request an ITIN for your spouse you are not entitled to that refund. Is this true.
What? Tell me it's not so. I read before that even filing MFJ with the spouse requesting an ITIN you'd still get the stimulus for one person ($600), just not the $1200 you'd get normally filing MFJ with a resident spouse with an SSN.
You'll get it next year all your $1200. Just losing interest for 1 year.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
my tax lady seemed to think i might get just my part still
QUOTE(brnidokiegurl @ Apr 15 2008, 01:06 PM)
the IRS sent ahmed a letter asking for basically the same papers i included in the application attached to my tax form. I called and they wouldnt talk to me because its HIS number so im assuming if they put their foreign address they will be the one to know the number first
Actually I got the number first via phone and then via mail, the way it happen with us, the IRS agent called my husband on the phone while I was on the line with him.
Also you can send in your state taxes without the number, just write ITIN pending and they do the rest.(This is the way I did it- no problem).
We all ready have a bank account together and a credit card.
Good Luck!
Nita
QUOTE(lotofpatience @ Apr 15 2008, 04:09 PM)
You'll get it next year all your $1200. Just losing interest for 1 year.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
From your link:
QUOTE
Q: I know some people won’t get a stimulus payment. How do I know if I’m one of them?
A: You won’t get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
* You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
* You are a nonresident alien.
Q. I have an ITIN, but my spouse has a valid Social Security number. Can we get a payment?
A. If you and your spouse file a joint return, you will not get a stimulus payment. If your spouse files a separate return, your spouse may qualify for a payment, based on his or her income deductions and credits.
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately" status to qualify for the Economic Stimulus Payment and later on amend my original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the stimulus payment?
A. No.
A: You won’t get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
* You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
* You are a nonresident alien.
Q. I have an ITIN, but my spouse has a valid Social Security number. Can we get a payment?
A. If you and your spouse file a joint return, you will not get a stimulus payment. If your spouse files a separate return, your spouse may qualify for a payment, based on his or her income deductions and credits.
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately" status to qualify for the Economic Stimulus Payment and later on amend my original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the stimulus payment?
A. No.
So, apparently if you filed MFJ right away, you get NO stimulus. If you filed MFS first, then amend to MFJ, you could get the stimulus cheque for the USC but definitely NOT for the nonresident alien.
QUOTE(badspellor @ Apr 15 2008, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE(lotofpatience @ Apr 15 2008, 04:09 PM)
You'll get it next year all your $1200. Just losing interest for 1 year.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
From your link:
QUOTE
Q: I know some people won't get a stimulus payment. How do I know if I'm one of them?
A: You won't get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
* You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
* You are a nonresident alien.
Q. I have an ITIN, but my spouse has a valid Social Security number. Can we get a payment?
A. If you and your spouse file a joint return, you will not get a stimulus payment. If your spouse files a separate return, your spouse may qualify for a payment, based on his or her income deductions and credits.
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately" status to qualify for the Economic Stimulus Payment and later on amend my original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the stimulus payment?
A. No.
A: You won't get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
* You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
* You are a nonresident alien.
Q. I have an ITIN, but my spouse has a valid Social Security number. Can we get a payment?
A. If you and your spouse file a joint return, you will not get a stimulus payment. If your spouse files a separate return, your spouse may qualify for a payment, based on his or her income deductions and credits.
Q. If I have a spouse with an ITIN and therefore choose "married filing separately" status to qualify for the Economic Stimulus Payment and later on amend my original return to "married filing jointly" status, will I need to return the stimulus payment?
A. No.
So, apparently if you filed MFJ right away, you get NO stimulus. If you filed MFS first, then amend to MFJ, you could get the stimulus cheque for the USC but definitely NOT for the nonresident alien.
WOO HOO! This is just what I was looking for. I was about to not file for the ITIN at all for fear that this too would nix my stimulus payment. but now I know i can and then amend later.
Thanks! Off to the post office---->
QUOTE
Q. If I currently have an ITIN and file my return but later this year get an SSN, can I amend my return to get the payment or will I need to wait until I file my 2008 return to claim it?
A. You will need to wait until you file your 2008 income tax return to claim the economic stimulus payment. [New 4/14/08]
A. You will need to wait until you file your 2008 income tax return to claim the economic stimulus payment. [New 4/14/08]
I wonder if this means that even if you filed MFJ you would be eligible to file for it on your 2008 return? Though this stimulus package certainly doesn't take couples stuck in immigration in to count. At the very least the USC should be eligible no matter what. ;(
Just wondering, what mailing address did you all use on the W-7. Was it yours in US or spouse's foreign address?
Please confirm:
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
QUOTE(spg21 @ Apr 15 2008, 06:39 PM)
Just wondering, what mailing address did you all use on the W-7. Was it yours in US or spouse's foreign address?
US address
QUOTE(Nutty @ Apr 15 2008, 07:26 PM)
Please confirm:
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
You'll get the rebate next year when you file 2008 year taxes. There is no question "why", it is IRS law.
QUOTE(Nutty @ Apr 15 2008, 04:26 PM)
Please confirm:
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
I filed MFJ and applied for an ITIN # for my husband. I am being taxed on his foreign wages, so why wouldn't he be able to get the rebate?
Also, just to clarify....
I hope he will be here soon. Hopefully, by the summer. Once he gets here and gets his SS#, we can amend our 2007 tax return...or what?
how do we get the rebate?
Per the Stimulus guidelines you are not eligible to for the rebate. You would've had to file married filinf seperately. Then you would not have needed to include your husbands foreign wages and at least YOU would've gotten the rebate. I don't think you can ammend the taxes to married filing seperately and get the rebate either. Once you file and are not qualified for rebate the rebate passes you by. meaning you cannot get the 2007 rebate when you file 2008 taxes.
You can not ammend a joint return to seperate returns. Only seperate returns can be ammended to joint. States so on form 1040X.
IRS has said that 2008 returns will probably include a line asking if you did not get the stimulus payment in 2007 but are now qualified for it (spouse got a SSN before filling 2008 taxes) and you will get your $1200 credited to your 2008 return.
IRS has said that 2008 returns will probably include a line asking if you did not get the stimulus payment in 2007 but are now qualified for it (spouse got a SSN before filling 2008 taxes) and you will get your $1200 credited to your 2008 return.
QUOTE(spg21 @ Apr 15 2008, 06:39 PM)
Just wondering, what mailing address did you all use on the W-7. Was it yours in US or spouse's foreign address?
I put mine.... the tax guy said to do that even though it reads as if its the other way around.
I guess, my stuff iss bass akwards, I got the money, but no ITN officially yet.
obviously they couldn't deal me the extra cash out had they not ITN'd it.
I think!
Weird....
now my state return money has been zapped to my account....
I wonder if this means there is some automated communication between the ITN issuing dept. and the state.
I still haven't got an official ITN in the mail.
BUt I've got my moneys. [but still no NOA2]
now my state return money has been zapped to my account....
I wonder if this means there is some automated communication between the ITN issuing dept. and the state.
I still haven't got an official ITN in the mail.
BUt I've got my moneys. [but still no NOA2]
my state is being held until he gets a number, but i do know of one case, the person got the state return and federal having problems with the number for them. So i dont understand why or how they would go ahead and process some without the number and hold others waiting for the numbers.
QUOTE(HOHOHO @ Apr 15 2008, 12:20 PM)
Since my tax return money landed in my bank account this week, I assume they finally assigned my wife her ITN (i had sent in all that stuff needed to get it with my paper return).
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
When did you fle your W7? I filed 8 weeks ago and still nothing. I called yesterday and they told me 10 weeks to issue ITIN and then 8 weeks for refund. That puts my refund arrival in June!
QUOTE(SkipSherv @ Apr 17 2008, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE(HOHOHO @ Apr 15 2008, 12:20 PM)
Since my tax return money landed in my bank account this week, I assume they finally assigned my wife her ITN (i had sent in all that stuff needed to get it with my paper return).
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
I haven't got anything in the snail mail yet, and I need the ITN to finish off my state taxes (which are on hold awaiting this number also)... (way it works is I have to mail it in)....
can I get this from IRS? or is it on it's way in the mail? (if anyone's got theirs would like to hear about it).
will be nice to open a joint savings account also.
When did you fle your W7? I filed 8 weeks ago and still nothing. I called yesterday and they told me 10 weeks to issue ITIN and then 8 weeks for refund. That puts my refund arrival in June!
By the time I got all the stuff in, done, mailed back and forth overseas for singnatures and all that, mailed off in late February.
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