Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 11 2008, 02:46 PM
Dungeon?
That woud be really awesome and almost grown up!
Thanks you for reading this request Captain Ewok!
Captain Ewok
Apr 11 2008, 03:51 PM
Interesting concept but not sure how this floats with the current TOS as written... thoughts? I am personally worried it could lead to an environment not reflecting the greater VJ values that we try to promote.
Jabberwocky
Apr 11 2008, 04:04 PM
I think it could be fun as long as there are still some rules. It can't be an anything-goes or people will start posting pics of their private parts...and members should be able to kick somebody out by vote if they go overboard.
mox
Apr 11 2008, 04:25 PM
Look at some of the threads in off-topic. There are spiteful, hateful, racist, and downright vulgar posts that come up daily, some of which are eventually locked, but many of which are allowed to continue. I think this is a good thing. But I also think it's enough.
I believe there's room for more than just immigration-related information (hence my support for off-topic and political forums) but I also think a line needs to be drawn at some point. If we want to an "off-off-topic" forum, let's just put it under another domain, completely unaffiliated with VJ.
Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 11 2008, 04:26 PM
Have you ever participated in a non moderated forum where that has happened (the pictures of private parts)? I don't post on many boards, but this is the only actively moderated forum I have ever used and there is more friction here than on any of the sites I post at that aren't moderated. Of course, that could be related to ths site's primary function but I don't know.
It will not ruin my day if you don't take up this suggestion, I just thought it would be interesting.
charlesandnessa
Apr 12 2008, 09:33 AM
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 11 2008, 04:04 PM)

I think it could be fun as long as there are still some rules. It can't be an anything-goes or people will start posting pics of their private parts...and members should be able to kick somebody out by vote if they go overboard.
then it will become a popularity contest.
Jabberwocky
Apr 12 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Apr 12 2008, 07:33 AM)

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 11 2008, 04:04 PM)

I think it could be fun as long as there are still some rules. It can't be an anything-goes or people will start posting pics of their private parts...and members should be able to kick somebody out by vote if they go overboard.
then it will become a popularity contest.
The person who gets kicked out can make an appeal to the Capt. - he can look into it and see whether it was justified or not.
Mags
Apr 12 2008, 11:17 AM
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Apr 12 2008, 10:33 AM)

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 11 2008, 04:04 PM)

I think it could be fun as long as there are still some rules. It can't be an anything-goes or people will start posting pics of their private parts...and members should be able to kick somebody out by vote if they go overboard.
then it will become a popularity contest.
Big Brother.
There'll be PMs going on behind the scenes egging people to vote "so and so" off. It'll turn into a clique war.
An over 18s, private forum has potential, but that rule would just turn it back into a High School.
mox
Apr 12 2008, 11:19 AM
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 12 2008, 08:52 AM)

QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Apr 12 2008, 07:33 AM)

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 11 2008, 04:04 PM)

I think it could be fun as long as there are still some rules. It can't be an anything-goes or people will start posting pics of their private parts...and members should be able to kick somebody out by vote if they go overboard.
then it will become a popularity contest.
The person who gets kicked out can make an appeal to the Capt. - he can look into it and see whether it was justified or not.
LOL. Because...you know...Ewok has no life.
Also, we should have year books and glee club!

(Dammit Mags, you made my analogy before me!)
Jenn!
Apr 12 2008, 11:19 AM
I agree with mox, someone with the knowhow should start one on another domain. No holds barred! We can even create new usernames and see how long it takes us to figure out who everyone else is.
Mags
Apr 12 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

I agree with mox, someone with the knowhow should start one on another domain. No holds barred! We can even create new usernames and see how long it takes us to figure out who everyone else is.

I think it was done before by someone here (can't remember who). No one signed up or seemed interested.
QUOTE(mox @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

(Dammit Mags, you made my analogy before me!)
Sowwy!
Jenn!
Apr 12 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(Mags @ Apr 12 2008, 12:25 PM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

I agree with mox, someone with the knowhow should start one on another domain. No holds barred! We can even create new usernames and see how long it takes us to figure out who everyone else is.

I think it was done before by someone here (can't remember who). No one signed up or seemed interested.
Wasn't that a separate forum for politics that Larry started?
Mags
Apr 12 2008, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:28 PM)

QUOTE(Mags @ Apr 12 2008, 12:25 PM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

I agree with mox, someone with the knowhow should start one on another domain. No holds barred! We can even create new usernames and see how long it takes us to figure out who everyone else is.

I think it was done before by someone here (can't remember who). No one signed up or seemed interested.
Wasn't that a separate forum for politics that Larry started?
Oh was it him? Was it politics? Oops.

I really brain farted that out of my head didn't I? Perhaps it was. All I know is that in general, VJers don't seem to like to transfer off site. There is this invisible thread that pulls them back, even if they say they hate it.

It's just the way of the world, I guess. Oh and it's an addiction.
Jenn!
Apr 12 2008, 11:40 AM
Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.php
Mags
Apr 12 2008, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpWoooooooooooo! Go, Jenn!
PlatyPius
Apr 12 2008, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(Mags @ Apr 12 2008, 12:25 PM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

I agree with mox, someone with the knowhow should start one on another domain. No holds barred! We can even create new usernames and see how long it takes us to figure out who everyone else is.

I think it was done before by someone here (can't remember who). No one signed up or seemed interested.
QUOTE(mox @ Apr 12 2008, 12:19 PM)

(Dammit Mags, you made my analogy before me!)
Sowwy!
That was me. I started a forum for non-moderated discussion. VJ Troll, Lucky Strike, and a couple of other people joined and that was all.
Jabberwocky
Apr 12 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 09:40 AM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpI registered, but my activation key email has not come thru yet.

I even requested it again. Yahoo sucks.
mox
Apr 12 2008, 03:52 PM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 09:40 AM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpYou should probably be aware of the
mybb3.org terms of service. Specifically, prohibited content includes:
Prohibited Content:
- Content that violates the laws
- Adult or Obscene material
- Hacking, Piracy, Viruses, Warez or illegal mp3's
- Depictions of Minors or Children (even minimal sexual context is not allowed)
- Illegal Drugs or Terrorism
- Invasion on privacy or the Impersonation of others
- Derogatory, Slanderous, Racial or Explicit Material
- Sharing of passwords or Serial Numbers
- Spam or MLM
- Harassment
- Illegal Conduct of Any Sort
rkl57
Apr 12 2008, 03:55 PM
Damn - there goes my opportunity to use it as a new distribution channel for my drug business
mox
Apr 12 2008, 04:05 PM
I basically see the "Adult or Obscene material" and "Derogatory, Slanderous, Racial or Explicit Material" as deal breakers for a true "dungeon" forum. In fact, reading through the complete TOS, I think it's more restrictive in some ways than VJ. Especially the clause where they talk about having ownership of your board.
Captain Ewok
Apr 12 2008, 04:19 PM
Yes they are pretty restrictive and not designed for the type of thing you are referring to. There is a degree of respectibility in not allowing a totally "anything goes" forum per say. I would consider a new forum here to catch the various things outside of the realm of current forums however we still have to follow the TOS. Their TOS does the same thing in a way. They can't have a porn ring or something running amuck.
Jenn!
Apr 12 2008, 06:16 PM
Well, I don't envision it getting to porn ring status. We'll see how it goes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see it more as a place where the "personal attack" rule doesn't apply.
Number 6
Apr 12 2008, 08:46 PM
I dunno about anyone else, but some of our... wackier members would probably benefit from a "shut your hole" forum
john & jean
Apr 12 2008, 08:54 PM
ARE BOOBS "private parts"???
PlatyPius
Apr 12 2008, 09:17 PM
What I find amusing about restrictions, TOS, and the like is.....
My pagan message board is almost "anything goes". I own the domain, and I pay for a server that has no restrictions on what I upload to it. I also own (license) the message board software. With all of this freedom to post whatever.... there is never any trouble there. People can cuss all they want, they can say whatever about whomever they want....but they usually don't.
Rules and repression seem to produce more profanity and "naughtiness" than anarchy.
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 07:16 PM)

Well, I don't envision it getting to porn ring status. We'll see how it goes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see it more as a place where the "personal attack" rule doesn't apply.
Except I still believe that what is said over there will be carried over to here. I can just see some people reporting to Ewok things that are said over there. Maybe I should have used a fake name. lol
William33
Apr 12 2008, 10:50 PM
QUOTE(Purple_Hibiscus @ Apr 11 2008, 02:46 PM)

Dungeon?
That woud be really awesome and almost grown up!
Thanks you for reading this request Captain Ewok!
Why not start your own website with these attributes? This is after all, a family based immigration website.
What you are suggesting, appears to be yet another sub OT forum, with an anything goes attitude.
Does that sum it up?
Captain Ewok
Apr 13 2008, 12:58 AM
Well there is also another possibility. I will post it here a bit later... (mystery

).
Jabberwocky
Apr 13 2008, 02:29 AM
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Apr 12 2008, 10:58 PM)

Well there is also another possibility. I will post it here a bit later... (mystery

).
A cliffhanger.
Captain Ewok
Apr 13 2008, 05:45 AM
Well since we want to keep the VJ "Family" atmosphere as best as possible I agree certain types of "craziness" should not be promoted here. However, that said, myself and a few other people tossed around the idea of an expat type site to cover some of the areas "beyond the visa". We never had the time to launch the site but I took a few hours and made the beginning of the site (at least a good start). Now in the future when you want to discuss things "beyond VJ" you will have a place to go. I will fully support the site so feel free to shoot me feedback over there

. Any admin type issues (except in extreme circumstances) will be done seperately. These are two different sites and things that happen there will not have an effect here (or vice versa). Different audience and rules for each site, etc..
Just keep things civil and above water if you can

. No TOS over there yet but keep the pRon, illegal things, etc off the site (i.e. common sense approach).
http://www.expatgroups.com/forums/
Number 6
Apr 13 2008, 06:02 AM
Great idea!
Krikit
Apr 13 2008, 07:13 AM
Cool! Now I have to figure out what username I want. Do I want members to know who I am, or do I want to remain mysterious?
Leafgal
Apr 13 2008, 07:18 AM
Yeah I had that dilemma too, but hey I have nothing to hide, dang I signed up before I could have put my real agent name, oh well lol
Krikit
Apr 13 2008, 07:27 AM
QUOTE(Leafgal @ Apr 13 2008, 08:18 AM)

Yeah I had that dilemma too, but hey I have nothing to hide, dang I signed up before I could have put my real agent name, oh well lol
Oh right! Our agent names! Good thinking, Agent Leafy.
Leafgal
Apr 13 2008, 07:29 AM
Well I was feeling pretty fuzzy too, perhaps I should have waited till I really thought about it first, oh well what is done is done lol.
A.J.
Apr 13 2008, 07:01 PM
Ewok... cool!
Jenn!
Apr 14 2008, 08:32 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpIt got taken down *already*? Wow, either they're really efficient over there, or someone reported the forum.
Sinergy
Apr 14 2008, 08:40 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 14 2008, 09:32 AM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpIt got taken down *already*? Wow, either they're really efficient over there, or someone reported the forum.

Yea and i was looking forward to playing in that forum
PlatyPius
Apr 14 2008, 08:57 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 14 2008, 09:32 AM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 PM)

Well, I set up a forum to see if anyone would join. Maybe if there's enough interest, then Ewok would consider making something like it a part of the site.
Come register and be naughty!!!
http://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phphttp://vjdungeon.mybb3.org/index.phpIt got taken down *already*? Wow, either they're really efficient over there, or someone reported the forum.
Based on trends, I would guess the latter.
If you decide to do it again, let me know. My server = no one to report it to. Well, no one who will listen anyway.
Number 6
Apr 14 2008, 09:00 AM
Wow - that was fast. Perhaps that poll was a bit much...
rkl57
Apr 14 2008, 09:25 AM
Was there too much spewing of hatred or too much porn?
Based on trends, I would guess the former.
Jenn!
Apr 14 2008, 09:29 AM
QUOTE(rkl57 @ Apr 14 2008, 10:25 AM)

Was there too much spewing of hatred or too much porn?
Based on trends, I would guess the former.
What has happened to you, seriously?
Number 6
Apr 14 2008, 09:29 AM
Pretty much. Basically a public venting of what would ordinarily be Private Messages over here.
rkl57
Apr 14 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 14 2008, 09:29 AM)

QUOTE(rkl57 @ Apr 14 2008, 10:25 AM)

Was there too much spewing of hatred or too much porn?
Based on trends, I would guess the former.
What has happened to you, seriously?
Nothing at all.
Just curious why people have the need to publicly air their hate (#6 confirmed that I was right, I didn't really feel the need to check it out myself), though if people want to do so it's their problem not mine.
Number 6
Apr 14 2008, 09:41 AM
To be honest with you - it wasn't really "hate" and certainly not in a way that was intended to be taken particularly seriously.
Parodies of post styles kinda thing.
Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 14 2008, 01:03 PM
I guess the new site will take a while to 'come alive' but thank you for the efforts Mr Ewok.
I completely missed the 'VJ Dungeon' though, too busy at the weekend and now it's gone!

I keep getting bumped out of VJ, is there something I should know???
eric&gen
Apr 17 2008, 11:24 PM
Were is this 'VJ Dungeon'?
Captain Ewok
Apr 18 2008, 12:51 AM
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