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Captain Ewok
What do you guys think?
Jenn!
My vote got deleted and I can't vote again. mad.gif
Captain Ewok
What was your vote? I will add it in smile.gif.
charles!
1000 votes no, ewok votes yes, forum is made tongue.gif

i think it is necessary due to the sheer volumn of political threads. good.gif
Captain Ewok
QUOTE
1000 votes no, ewok votes yes, forum is made


lol tongue.gif
Jenn!
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Apr 10 2008, 05:22 PM) *
What was your vote? I will add it in smile.gif.


Thanks I voted yes, but don't tell anyone!
LoriLawless
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.
Toshtishtash
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illumine
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).
kaydee457
QUOTE(toshtishtash @ Apr 10 2008, 04:44 PM) *
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What's wrong with political posts?

What purpose would this "poll" serve? There's a disparity in the number of liberals vs. conservatives in this forum. More liberals than conservatives. That alone would skew the "poll".......
A.J.
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.
kaydee457
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


Ahh, perhaps I'm one that can't read for I didn't know the purpose of this poll....Now I do!

I voted NO!
Nagishkaw
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 04:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).


( Bigotry , name-calling, and a LOT of favouritism ).
Jenn!
Banish is a little strong, no? More like, move it. Will it be difficult to locate?
illumine
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Apr 10 2008, 02:55 PM) *
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 04:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).


( Bigotry , name-calling, and a LOT of favouritism ).



Welcome to VJ!
LoriLawless
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 05:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).


I knew someone would say that.

That's true, yes. However, it seems that the topic "merits" it's own section due to the popularity of it.

If you know what I mean.
illumine
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 02:53 PM) *
but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif


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illumine
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:57 PM) *
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 05:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).


I knew someone would say that.

That's true, yes. However, it seems that the topic "merits" it's own section due to the popularity of it.

If you know what I mean.



No, I don't. This election process has forced more Americans than ever to vote- that's HUGE! And ti's exciting - Americans are energized to pick a leader (as split as they appear to be). Our country is in turmoil & a recession. I think it's great that current events can be discussed with my peers, whether or not I agree.

At the end of the day, OT is exactly that, OFF TOPIC. The purpose of this site is immigration, not OT. Don't give it more importance than it already has. No one makes anyone click on a thread. wink.gif
Jenn!
To me it really doesn't matter at all since I use Recent Topics or View New Posts most of the time.
LoriLawless
Not arguing with you. I was asked and I voted.

This is exactly why I read but don't post in those threads.

I'm not here to get into arguments with you all

Have a nice day.

Jabberwocky
Capt.,

Since this appears to be very divisive, what about adding filters for the topics, where the OP can designate what category they want their post recognized as (politics, humor, religion, news) and then members can select which filters they want on? This would make viewing the list of threads in OT customizable to everyone's tastes and this would eliminate the need for subforums within OT.

Nagishkaw
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 04:56 PM) *
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Apr 10 2008, 02:55 PM) *
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 10 2008, 04:51 PM) *
QUOTE(LoriLawless @ Apr 10 2008, 02:41 PM) *
I voted yes too. Off topic is too flooded by political posts.



Off Topic
Anything (well almost) that you need to say you can say here.

blink.gif

Last I checked, this means politics (& religion & bodily fluids & illegal immigrants).


( Bigotry , name-calling, and a LOT of favouritism ).



Welcome to VJ!


Thank you and good luck on your journey ! wink.gif
Mr. Big Dog
I'm from FL - will my vote count? tongue.gif
Madame Cleo
There's not option for a no holds barred, non moderated, subterranean dungeon forum. That's what I vote for.
metta
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 05:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.

I totally agree with Troll. Everyone knows we're rooting for rival candidates and I confess a lot of what he posts gets my goat smile.gif but I do appreicate reading his POVs and to discern where he is coming from. Politics is contentious but out of the debates even viscious as they are, we gain insights.
I also concur with Dev on asking why we want to micromanage? After all we are adults and by now know pretty well who is going to post which POV.
Now with regard to volume, through all these years, I have suffered cats and dogs and all kinds of
idiotic topics taking over OT, only to ebb and flow.
I voted NO.
Mr. Big Dog
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 10 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Capt.,

Since this appears to be very divisive, what about adding filters for the topics, where the OP can designate what category they want their post recognized as (politics, humor, religion, news) and then members can select which filters they want on? This would make viewing the list of threads in OT customizable to everyone's tastes and this would eliminate the need for subforums within OT.

I like this idea. Would help me avoid the kitty pic threads. whistling.gif
Jabberwocky
QUOTE(Mr. Big Dog @ Apr 10 2008, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 10 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Capt.,

Since this appears to be very divisive, what about adding filters for the topics, where the OP can designate what category they want their post recognized as (politics, humor, religion, news) and then members can select which filters they want on? This would make viewing the list of threads in OT customizable to everyone's tastes and this would eliminate the need for subforums within OT.

I like this idea. Would help me avoid the kitty pic threads. whistling.gif



It would be a win-win situation all around.

={Rogue}=
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 10 2008, 05:22 PM) *
QUOTE(Mr. Big Dog @ Apr 10 2008, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 10 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Capt.,

Since this appears to be very divisive, what about adding filters for the topics, where the OP can designate what category they want their post recognized as (politics, humor, religion, news) and then members can select which filters they want on? This would make viewing the list of threads in OT customizable to everyone's tastes and this would eliminate the need for subforums within OT.

I like this idea. Would help me avoid the kitty pic threads. whistling.gif



It would be a win-win situation all around.


I love the idea of forum segragation tongue.gif It would end up the same as it is now imo!
Paul Daniels
Yep.

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 10 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Banish is a little strong, no? More like, move it. Will it be difficult to locate?


Indeed its not banishing. Perhaps some people are afraid that they (and their content) won't get as much attention as usual blink.gif
Olivia*
I like the idea of the 2008 political forum idea. It seems appropriate for the time. good.gif good.gif good.gif
Krikit
QUOTE(Mr. Big Dog @ Apr 10 2008, 06:09 PM) *
I'm from FL - will my vote count? tongue.gif

Damn! I'm from FL too. crying.gif

I vote YES!!! kicking.gif
charles!
25 yes
19 no
kaydee457
QUOTE(Mr. Big Dog @ Apr 10 2008, 05:09 PM) *
I'm from FL - will my vote count? tongue.gif


Why is your chad hanging, you prevert... laughing.gif
kaydee457
What's really flawed with this idea is that ordinary, mundane subjects sometimes morph into political discussions.

It would be chaotic to try and manage what threads belong where, or worse yet, moderators would have to warn people not to drift of into the political aspects of a particular topic. Not good.

This is a bad idea.
William33
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif
kaydee457
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 06:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif


Flip Flopper...... devil.gif Must be a dem.........
Nessa
yes
almaty
what sick chopf##k moved this thread from off topics to polls..ban his filthy hide
Magenta
QUOTE(Number 6 @ Apr 10 2008, 06:31 PM) *
Yep.

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 10 2008, 05:55 PM) *
Banish is a little strong, no? More like, move it. Will it be difficult to locate?


Indeed its not banishing. Perhaps some people are afraid that they (and their content) won't get as much attention as usual blink.gif


I think the nail head has been hit here.


QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif


He's a troll, William. He'll say whatever he thinks will stir up trouble.

Don't your trolly? *pats cute little troll on the head* There there. Can I get you an ice cream? tongue.gif
William33
The Captain placed this poll in OT, to gain specific feedback from the OT crowd.

Someone mistakenly moved it. I am moving it back to OT.
Alex+R
I say no. The political discussions often get stupid and tasteless, just like everything else in OT. I actually agree with Kaydee (maybe for the first time ever) that it would be hard to distinguish what belonged there and what belonged in regular OT in many cases.

Also, I don't like when people pretend politics aren't a part of life or are something they can ignore. Taking those threads out of OT would add to that. That's called being a crappy citizen. "Politics is not a picture on a wall or a television sitcom that you can decide you don't much care for." ---Molly Ivins
Happy Bunny
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 10 2008, 05:24 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Ewok @ Apr 10 2008, 05:22 PM) *
What was your vote? I will add it in smile.gif.


Thanks I voted yes, but don't tell anyone!


Jenn, I swear, your posts always have me laughing from your wit...

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 10 2008, 06:07 PM) *
Capt.,

Since this appears to be very divisive, what about adding filters for the topics, where the OP can designate what category they want their post recognized as (politics, humor, religion, news) and then members can select which filters they want on? This would make viewing the list of threads in OT customizable to everyone's tastes and this would eliminate the need for subforums within OT.


I can't believe I'm going to say this, but Steven, that idea's not half bad. Huzzah!

QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif


He said no in chat as well..
William33
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 10 2008, 08:51 PM) *
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif


He said no in chat as well..


Guess we need the chat transcript here....Anyone?
Paul Daniels
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Apr 10 2008, 09:50 PM) *
I say no. The political discussions often get stupid and tasteless, just like everything else in OT. I actually agree with Kaydee (maybe for the first time ever) that it would be hard to distinguish what belonged there and what belonged in regular OT in many cases.

Also, I don't like when people pretend politics aren't a part of life or are something they can ignore. Taking those threads out of OT would add to that. That's called being a crappy citizen. "Politics is not a picture on a wall or a television sitcom that you can decide you don't much care for." ---Molly Ivins


I guess if it doesn't work they can change it back...
Happy Bunny
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:04 PM) *
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 10 2008, 08:51 PM) *
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.


In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif


He said no in chat as well..


Guess we need the chat transcript here....Anyone?



Interesting you say that....there is no chat transcript. It's been cleared.

DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

*raises eyebrow and stares*
SMOKE
QUOTE(Purple_Hibiscus @ Apr 10 2008, 05:11 PM) *
There's not option for a no holds barred, non moderated, subterranean dungeon forum. That's what I vote for.

ooohhh that'd be fun!
devil.gif YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA ! devil.gif
A.J.
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:04 PM) *
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 10 2008, 08:51 PM) *
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.

In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif

He said no in chat as well..

Guess we need the chat transcript here....Anyone?

I don't have the transcript, but I recall saying I didn't like the idea. Alex's post sums up my feelings on it well. Politics is life.

Mags, I know I call myself VJ Troll but I always thought of it as a non-serious dig at myself. I'm frankly offended that you see me a real troll.
Krikit
Troll, can I ask you why it's so personal to you why the political threads should not get moved into their own arena? I mean... #1 you'll know excatly where to find all the political stuff and .... #2 those of us who are interested will know exactly where to find all the political stuff. I can't see where the problem lies. unsure.gif
William33
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 09:37 PM) *
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:04 PM) *
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 10 2008, 08:51 PM) *
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:38 PM) *
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 10 2008, 04:53 PM) *
OT is full of idiocy. Some of it's political, some of it's sexual and some of it just silly games for the post whores.

Why single out one form of idiocy and banish it while leaving the others alone?

We can all play idiot word games, but not everyone can talk politics. Why? Because not everyone reads. Perhaps everyone should. Then we could all play luv.gif

ps. I voted no.

In the chat last night, you said yes? blink.gif

He said no in chat as well..

Guess we need the chat transcript here....Anyone?

I don't have the transcript, but I recall saying I didn't like the idea. Alex's post sums up my feelings on it well. Politics is life.

Mags, I know I call myself VJ Troll but I always thought of it as a non-serious dig at myself. I'm frankly offended that you see me a real troll.


Mags was being sarcastic. Relax on that.
illumine
QUOTE(William33 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:04 PM) *
Guess we need the chat transcript here....Anyone?


oh, chat records exist, yes. wink.gif Esp the name-calling.
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