Jabberwocky
Apr 7 2008, 07:29 PM
Capt.,
Would you consider creating a subforum within OT for posts related to the Presidential Election, including the Primaries? The number of threads about the campaigns and the candidates are running amok.
A.J.
Apr 7 2008, 07:42 PM
I disagree. The election will be over in a few months and then this forum will be listless for another 2/12-3 years.
Cassie
Apr 7 2008, 07:48 PM
I'll just resurrect my $5 surcharge for each new political thread. That'll curb it!
Jabberwocky
Apr 7 2008, 08:05 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 7 2008, 05:42 PM)

I disagree. The election will be over in a few months and then this forum will be listless for another 2/12-3 years.
How about a category selection then for the poster of the thread, then adding a filter for those who want to see a list of threads under a similar topic? That would give each viewer the option to see all of the threads in OT, or just the ones relating to certain subjects.
Nessa
Apr 7 2008, 08:14 PM
a politics thread doesn't need to be just about the elections right now.
Jabberwocky
Apr 7 2008, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Apr 7 2008, 06:14 PM)

a politics thread doesn't need to be just about the elections right now.
I thought about that, but there are a lot of topics that bleed into politics - immigration for example, which would make it difficult to decide where it belongs.
Krikit
Apr 7 2008, 08:35 PM
All these political threads have pretty much kept me out of the OT forum. I agree that they need a subforum. It's ongoing. Even when there wasn't an upcoming election, there were numerous political threads being posted. At this point there is still another 7 months of this. And then after that there'll be the numerous threads discussing the election. And then after that there'll be the numerous threads discussing how much better so-and-so would have been than so-and-so. And so on and so on and so on. I think we should amend the byline.....
VisaJourney.com - Your family immigration and political discussion community
Jabberwocky
Apr 7 2008, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(Krikit @ Apr 7 2008, 06:35 PM)

All these political threads have pretty much kept me out of the OT forum. I agree that they need a subforum. It's ongoing. Even when there wasn't an upcoming election, there were numerous political threads being posted. At this point there is still another 7 months of this. And then after that there'll be the numerous threads discussing the election. And then after that there'll be the numerous threads discussing how much better so-and-so would have been than so-and-so. And so on and so on and so on. I think we should amend the byline.....
VisaJourney.com - Your family immigration and political discussion community
I think what unfortunately happens way too often is that a topic gets politicized. For example, somebody posts a thread about a single mother and her child who has leukemia. Somebody comes along and makes some backhanded remark in reference to some political ideology and then the whole sh!tfest ensues. There are some here who like that kind of excitement, but too much of it is as boring as never having a heating discussion about anything. We just need some balance. Let people post what they want to post (within the TOS), but offer them a way to filter through OT for topics they're most interested in.
charlesandnessa
Apr 7 2008, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 7 2008, 07:29 PM)

Capt.,
Would you consider creating a subforum within OT for posts related to the Presidential Election, including the Primaries? The number of threads about the campaigns and the candidates are running amok.
or we have 3 different threads - an obama, hillary, and mccain thread where things related to either candidate is supposed to be posted. that would sure cut down on me opening so many different threads to see the same stuff going on daily.
A.J.
Apr 7 2008, 09:37 PM
If a McCain thread was started but nobody posted, does the thread exist?
Mags
Apr 7 2008, 09:41 PM
QUOTE(charlesandnessa @ Apr 7 2008, 10:32 PM)

QUOTE(Mister Fancypants @ Apr 7 2008, 07:29 PM)

Capt.,
Would you consider creating a subforum within OT for posts related to the Presidential Election, including the Primaries? The number of threads about the campaigns and the candidates are running amok.
or we have 3 different threads - an obama, hillary, and mccain thread where things related to either candidate is supposed to be posted. that would sure cut down on me opening so many different threads to see the same stuff going on daily.
That would be an excellent idea, imo.
One thread for Obama topics, one thread of Clinton topics, one for McCain and an additional one for any other topics pertaining to the election. Any questions, queries or news articles would go in the respective threads.
I too have felt that the political threads are taking over the OT section of this forum. There is anything between 10-15 (or more) a day posted. It overwhelms the other topics that members here post. OT is supposed to be a place for people to forget the immigration process and have a bit of fun away from it all. The political threads can sometimes make it seem like fun is a far off distant place.
I'm not knocking them, or saying they are not welcome, but maybe a bit more controlled posting wouldn't go amiss here.
PlatyPius
Apr 7 2008, 09:46 PM
How about an instant 12 month ban for anyone who posts more than 2 political topics per week?
charlesandnessa
Apr 8 2008, 07:18 AM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 7 2008, 09:37 PM)

If a McCain thread was started but nobody posted, does the thread exist?
you and i both know the easy remedy for that is post something that draws hillbots.
Happy Bunny
Apr 8 2008, 08:02 AM
I'm not normally into micromanaging discussion, but summat needs to be done with all these political threads. Dunno what the appropriate solution is, but something should be done. Cos it's completely out of hand.
PlatyPius
Apr 8 2008, 08:19 AM
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 8 2008, 09:02 AM)

I'm not normally into micromanaging discussion, but summat needs to be done with all these political threads. Dunno what the appropriate solution is, but something should be done. Cos it's completely out of hand.
It is.
Far too many topics started that are Anti-Hillary or Anti-Obama. It's the whole "Well look what
*I* found!" thing. Yes, I'll post in them - I'll bash Hillary any chance I get - but I don't go around flooding the board with new topics. I posted an unbiased poll, and that's really about all for the past month. I don't need to try to distract attention from my candidate's short-comings by pointing out those of the opponent. In the end, EVERYone looks dirty after the SpinMachine has been through the neighborhood.
I suggest a limit on how many political (election) topics you can start. For THAT is the problem....the same people posting topic, after topic, after topic. (10 in one day ring any bells?)
What sounds fair? One per week? One per day? I'd go for one per week, myself.
Or maybe we should just have a moratorium on election threads in general.... Because, be honest....if we have a Hillary-bashing subforum, an Obama-bashing subforum, etc - it's just gonna be a bloodbath. In the end it's all just a big willy-measuring contest.
Jenn!
Apr 8 2008, 08:28 AM
I think it would be easy enough for the mods to PM the offenders and tell them to quit it. When "regular" members try to suggest that someone has gone overboard, it is usually met with a "well, if you don't like it, then don't click on it" attitude.
rebeccajo
Apr 8 2008, 08:43 AM
Doesn't it just go back to the same old basic underlying point?
If you have a $hit-$tirrer, show them the door.
rkl57
Apr 8 2008, 08:44 AM
I don't really see the problem with the election. I don't see one person or even a gew engaging in the debate.
During my years of perusing this website, it has definitely gone through "phases" of popular topics that threaten to "overwhelm" OT - 9-11 conspiracy theories, global warming, illegal immigration, etc. Many people on this board have pet issues that they like to post about. Since the election is current, it is not surprising that people want to talk about it and post about their POV.
A.J.
Apr 8 2008, 08:58 AM
Because of all the whining, I decided to post a thread about fish.
Freakin' FISH!!!!!
I disgust me.
Ms. Squirrel
Apr 8 2008, 09:11 AM
I am also a bit annoyed by the political thread flood in OT. The "thread for each candidate"- idea sounds good to me.
Nessa
Apr 8 2008, 03:20 PM
i think anyone who starts a new political thread should be decapitated
A.J.
Apr 8 2008, 03:21 PM
I posted a thread about FISH this morning and hardly anyone noticed.
rkl57
Apr 8 2008, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 8 2008, 03:21 PM)

I posted a thread about FISH this morning and hardly anyone noticed.
I enjoyed that post very much - most informative!
Jenn!
Apr 8 2008, 03:27 PM
Does Hillary like fish? She probably says she does even though she doesn't.
Number 6
Apr 8 2008, 03:35 PM
I certainly don't think there's need to create a new thread for every single article that's dredged up. After all, many of the "anti Obama / Clinton" threads reiterate the same basic points, just in a different ways. How many times can you have the same conversation....
Probably why many of them get single digit (if any) replies.
Number 6
Apr 8 2008, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 8 2008, 04:27 PM)

Does Hillary like fish? She probably says she does even though she doesn't.
I'm sure we can find an obscure reference to a comment she made in 1980, contrast that with a later statement from 2005 and say "liar". Hell it works with cigarettes.
And perhaps John McCain doesn't like shellfish. I guess that makes him anti-shellfisher.
Jabberwocky
Apr 8 2008, 04:07 PM
What about a 'topic selector' drop down menu when someone posts a new thread? Let the OP decide how they want to categorize their thread - Politics, Immigration, Religion, Relationship, Humor, Current Events, Personal. Then have a filter option that would only show you the threads in the topics you are interested in.
Currently (at this moment), only the top 15 threads display on the first page in OT, and 4 of them are have to do the elections, which is lower than it normally is.
QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 8 2008, 06:02 AM)

I'm not normally into micromanaging discussion, but summat needs to be done with all these political threads. Dunno what the appropriate solution is, but something should be done. Cos it's completely out of hand.
So what you're saying is, you hate Hillary Clinton. Typical.
/ducks and runs for cover
illumine
Apr 8 2008, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(Number 6 @ Apr 8 2008, 01:39 PM)

QUOTE(Jenn! @ Apr 8 2008, 04:27 PM)

Does Hillary like fish? She probably says she does even though she doesn't.
I'm sure we can find an obscure reference to a comment she made in 1980, contrast that with a later statement from 2005 and say "liar". Hell it works with cigarettes.
And perhaps John McCain doesn't like shellfish. I guess that makes him anti-shellfisher.
Your bias is showing - When Obama was asked if he liked shellfish, he replied PRESENT.
Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 8 2008, 05:12 PM
Why can't we have a sub forum for fish threads? I have my pole ready.
QUOTE(Purple_Hibiscus @ Apr 8 2008, 03:12 PM)

Why can't we have a sub forum for fish threads? I have my pole ready.
ALL forums are fishing forums if you know how to do it right.
Krikit
Apr 8 2008, 05:14 PM
Aaaaargh! The political postings are running amok in the political-postings-are-running-amok thread!
illumine
Apr 8 2008, 05:18 PM
QUOTE(Krikit @ Apr 8 2008, 03:14 PM)

Aaaaargh! The political postings are running amok in the political-postings-are-running-amok thread!

I had to correct that reply - all 3 candidates deserved equal digs.
Number 6
Apr 8 2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah seriously. Fish smells pretty bad after a few days anyway.
illumine
Apr 8 2008, 05:45 PM
While we're at it, a bodily fluids subforum would please many others, I'm sure.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...120829&st=0
Krikit
Apr 8 2008, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(illumine @ Apr 8 2008, 06:45 PM)

While we're at it, a bodily fluids subforum would please many others, I'm sure.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...120829&st=0I was just about to respond that I agree that there should be a sex subforum.... and then I clicked on that link.
Number 6
Apr 8 2008, 05:54 PM
Can we have an "its all about me" subforum too?
nane1104
Apr 8 2008, 08:07 PM
I am absolutley for a subforum for election related topics. And if it really goes "dead" after the election, it can get shut down or re-merged" into the regular OT forum.
Toshtishtash
Apr 9 2008, 05:27 AM
I just want to say that I think it's only fair that if we have a Presidential Election forum, we should also have a forum for the upcoming Mayoral elections on Pitcairn Island. As you know, the current Mayor, Jay Warren will be running again, and there is a fierce battle as to who will represent the Waponi party in the primaries. And by "fierce battle" I mean the loser of course is thrown into the lagoon, where he or she will be torn apart by the vicious razorbeak dolphins that inhabit the bay, so it should prove to be a pretty good one.
A.J.
Apr 9 2008, 10:46 AM
For all you apolitical scaredycats, there's another thread about fish today.
Mags
Apr 9 2008, 10:51 AM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 9 2008, 11:46 AM)

For all you apolitical scaredycats, there's another thread about fish today.
Perhaps Trolly here should have a forum all to himself too.
A.J.
Apr 9 2008, 10:52 AM
Not a bad idea. Can it be moderation-free? We can call it "The Dungeon".
Krikit
Apr 9 2008, 10:54 AM
QUOTE(mox @ Apr 9 2008, 11:44 AM)

I just want to say that I think it's only fair that if we have a Presidential Election forum, we should also have a forum for the upcoming Mayoral elections on Pitcairn Island. As you know, the current Mayor, Jay Warren will be running again, and there is a fierce battle as to who will represent the Waponi party in the primaries. And by "fierce battle" I mean the loser of course is thrown into the lagoon, where he or she will be torn apart by the vicious razorbeak dolphins that inhabit the bay, so it should prove to be a pretty good one.
What do you care, Moxy? Didn't your wife abandon you without so much as a farewellishly? Let it go, brother. Let it go.
QUOTE(Krikit @ Apr 9 2008, 08:54 AM)

What do you care, Moxy? Didn't your wife abandon you without so much as a farewellishly? Let it go, brother. Let it go.
I know. I should. I really should. It's just that...well it's just that it feels like a Pitcairian Razorbeak Dolphin has ripped my heart from my chest and fed it to her broodlings. I just keep thinking that she'll (the girl, not the dolphin) re-thinkingly.
almaty
Apr 9 2008, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 9 2008, 10:46 AM)

For all you apolitical scaredycats, there's another thread about fish today.
fish threads, ftw!
Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 9 2008, 04:27 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 9 2008, 07:52 AM)

Not a bad idea. Can it be moderation-free? We can call it "The Dungeon".
That is an excellent idea. To keep it properly X rated I think it should require a seperate password and be over 18 only.
Jabberwocky
Apr 9 2008, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(Purple_Hibiscus @ Apr 9 2008, 02:27 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Apr 9 2008, 07:52 AM)

Not a bad idea. Can it be moderation-free? We can call it "The Dungeon".
That is an excellent idea. To keep it properly X rated I think it should require a seperate password and be over 18 only.
I like where you are going with this, PH. We should be able to post uncensored pics there too.
Purple_Hibiscus
Apr 9 2008, 05:17 PM
We should install a bar too.
Seriously though, I actually think this is a good idea. An uncensored X rated, no holds barred not for the faint hearted OTT forum.
Good punctuation, spelling and grammer are not required!
Number 6
Apr 9 2008, 05:53 PM
That'll go down pretty well with some of our more "colorful" posters.
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