QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Apr 18 2008, 06:52 AM)

QUOTE(Jack and Barbara @ Apr 17 2008, 02:33 AM)

Rebecca, please stop. Please stop. I actually reread your post because I thought I read hypocrisy, but I couldn't believe how much until I reread it. Please read above in bold OR just go ahead and criticize. You are great at it. I only wish you had logic behind it...
I've read this entire thread in detail, and I don't see any hypocrisy, OR lack of logic, in anything rebeccajo has posted... on the contrary, the post you dissected with comments in bold (which I didn't quote, to avoid too long a post) displayed what seemed to me a lack of understanding of what RJ was saying; she was pointing out contradictions, which were clear to me when reading through it, and I suspect to others
and that's not personal, just an observation...
put simply, and without mention of the whole other issue that is lawsuits and so on that people have already raised: immigration services can't discriminate between countries when it comes to scrutiny/name checks/whatever, because it opens doors for exploitation down the line... same goes for airline security checks; as soon as one group of people don't get pulled aside, then there's an opening and a weakness for a potential terrorist to use later on down the track... these things HAVE to be applied across the board, or they don't work
there are other ways for friendly relationships to be fostered between countries, but a 'courtesy' waiver, or even simplification, of the security checks shouldn't be one of them
Well, some people were reading too much into it. But, instead of going back and forth and getting away from the point, I'll repeat what I have been saying again. I agree that immigration services cannot or should not discriminate, but it happens and anyone who thinks otherwise is not listening to reality.
If the Department of State has a list of 5 countries that "sponsor terrorism" there are going to be longer background checks on people from those countries regardless. Right or wrong for how the government came up with that list, it should not adversely affect every other country. Again, I'm not saying that anyone from those countries should have longer background checks; what I am saying is that other countries should not be penalized for the U.S. government scrutinizing a few, based off of a list that the U.S. government created. If the U.S. government put my fiancee's country on the list, then I would be on the phone with a congressional representative about it. But, I would also expect a lengthier background check because it is stated on the federal website as a "state that sponsors terrorism."