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brtlmj
OK, let's start with a praise. Having lived in Poland, Germany and Ireland I love the availability and prices of OTC (over the counter - the stuff you can buy in a grocery store) drugs in the US. I especially appreciate the fact that no one forces me to buy ten pills at a time (when a hundred pills can be had for a similar price in the US). But, there is one exception...

I have a sore throat. So I went to a couple of stores and sure enough, each had at least half an aisle dedicated to sore throat. But nothing they have can actually help! It's all menthol, Benzocaine and similar anesthetists by a hundred names. Hey, pain relief is great. But what about something like Halset in Poland, or Strepsils in Ireland? Something that can kill those little buggers in my throat?

Does anyone know the reason for this? Some weird law? Or maybe a local custom?
GabiandVi
QUOTE(brtlmj @ Mar 29 2008, 10:48 AM) *
OK, let's start with a praise. Having lived in Poland, Germany and Ireland I love the availability and prices of OTC (over the counter - the stuff you can buy in a grocery store) drugs in the US. I especially appreciate the fact that no one forces me to buy ten pills at a time (when a hundred pills can be had for a similar price in the US). But, there is one exception...

I have a sore throat. So I went to a couple of stores and sure enough, each had at least half an aisle dedicated to sore throat. But nothing they have can actually help! It's all menthol, Benzocaine and similar anesthetists by a hundred names. Hey, pain relief is great. But what about something like Halset in Poland, or Strepsils in Ireland? Something that can kill those little buggers in my throat?

Does anyone know the reason for this? Some weird law? Or maybe a local custom?


Yeah. We have many more regulations for drugs in the US. It's a sort of chicken/egg question. Do we have more regulations because we are not to be trusted - we are irresponsible drug users. Or are we irresponsible drug users because we have more regulations - we are treated less trustworthy.

Having said that, I can buy antibiotics OTC here in China, and I don't care how responsible the majority of drug takers are, it only takes a few to create drug resistent strains of illnesses. I would rather they be prescription drugs in EVERY country.
brtlmj
I agree about antibiotics, but simple antiseptics should be available, I think...
Krikit
We can't get Strepsils in the US?!!! ohmy.gif *adds Strepsils to Canadian shopping list*
flames9
Always come back with a grocery list from visiting canada,lol As we lI order my pet flea and heart meds from Australia!! Cheaper than here in the USA http://www.petsuppliesnet.com/shop.htm No prescriptions required!!
GabiandVi
QUOTE(Crikey! @ Mar 29 2008, 08:44 PM) *
We can't get Strepsils in the US?!!! ohmy.gif *adds Strepsils to Canadian shopping list*


I don't remember the name of the antiseptic lozenge we used to suck when we were kids, but strepsils sounds familiar. However, my dad was an MD so maybe they were samples. I sort of doubt it though because he was an OB/GYN and I don't think the drug companies would have reason to give him antiseptic samples. Who knows . . .

Were they golden and had a mildly sweet taste, not super sweet like those cherry things that came in a box (ludens?), and they would numb your throat? Wasn't there also a pump spray for your throat named the same thing? Green, I think. I'm sure I've seen the pump at my parent's house in the last 5 or 6 years. That isn't an OTC drug?
Leafgal
QUOTE(flames9 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Always come back with a grocery list from visiting canada,lol As we lI order my pet flea and heart meds from Australia!! Cheaper than here in the USA http://www.petsuppliesnet.com/shop.htm No prescriptions required!!


OMG that is half the price. Is the shipping 3.99 to the US?
Reba
Chloraseptic spray I think is an antiseptic, and I have bought it here in the US off the shelf (btw, otc and ots are 2 different things. OTC you have to actually ask the pharmacist behind the counter for it, off the shelf, you can grab it yourself and go. just nitpicky wink.gif )

actually...curiosity got the better of me and I went to check the label on the Chloraseptic. The label says Oral Anesthetic, and nowhere says it contains an antiseptic, however the primary ingredient is Phenol, which is apparently a natural antiseptic.

from Wiki:
QUOTE
Phenol has antiseptic properties, and was used by Sir Joseph Lister (1827-1912) in his pioneering technique of antiseptic surgery, though the skin irritation caused by continual exposure to phenol eventually led to the substitution of aseptic (germ-free) techniques in surgery. It is also the active ingredient in some oral anesthetics such as Chloraseptic spray. Phenol was also the main ingredient of the Carbolic Smoke Ball, a device sold in London designed to protect the user against influenza and other ailments. In the early part of the 20th century, it was used in the Battle Creek Sanitarium to discourage female masturbation.[4]


Probably for labeling laws it does not say that it is an antiseptic. The FDA is weird about labels. tongue.gif
Krikit
QUOTE(GabiandVi @ Mar 29 2008, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(Crikey! @ Mar 29 2008, 08:44 PM) *
We can't get Strepsils in the US?!!! ohmy.gif *adds Strepsils to Canadian shopping list*


I don't remember the name of the antiseptic lozenge we used to suck when we were kids, but strepsils sounds familiar. However, my dad was an MD so maybe they were samples. I sort of doubt it though because he was an OB/GYN and I don't think the drug companies would have reason to give him antiseptic samples. Who knows . . .

Were they golden and had a mildly sweet taste, not super sweet like those cherry things that came in a box (ludens?), and they would numb your throat? Wasn't there also a pump spray for your throat named the same thing? Green, I think. I'm sure I've seen the pump at my parent's house in the last 5 or 6 years. That isn't an OTC drug?

My cousin was a pharmaceutical rep so I know they do trades with other reps for different products. That might be how your Dad got them. They have different flavours and, yes, they numb your throat BIG time. laughing.gif I think Reba's right.... the pump spray is Chloraseptic.
Reba
QUOTE(flames9 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Always come back with a grocery list from visiting canada,lol As we lI order my pet flea and heart meds from Australia!! Cheaper than here in the USA http://www.petsuppliesnet.com/shop.htm No prescriptions required!!


and of course they don't have the Revolution dose for BIG dogs. That sucks.
brtlmj
QUOTE(Reba @ Mar 29 2008, 09:42 AM) *
Chloraseptic spray I think is an antiseptic, and I have bought it here in the US off the shelf (btw, otc and ots are 2 different things. OTC you have to actually ask the pharmacist behind the counter for it, off the shelf, you can grab it yourself and go. just nitpicky wink.gif )

actually...curiosity got the better of me and I went to check the label on the Chloraseptic. The label says Oral Anesthetic, and nowhere says it contains an antiseptic, however the primary ingredient is Phenol, which is apparently a natural antiseptic.

Hey, you are right! Thanks! It's a pity that the spray tastes like an orange-flavoured Lysol, but if it works, I don't mind smile.gif
*julez*
I highly recommend Cepacol Dual Throat Spray. I was really sick last week, with my throat feeling like razorblades were stuck it it, and one sprat of the Cepacol and my throat pain was relieved for hours!
flames9
QUOTE(Leafgal @ Mar 29 2008, 09:32 AM) *
QUOTE(flames9 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Always come back with a grocery list from visiting canada,lol As we lI order my pet flea and heart meds from Australia!! Cheaper than here in the USA http://www.petsuppliesnet.com/shop.htm No prescriptions required!!


OMG that is half the price. Is the shipping 3.99 to the US?


yeppers!! I have used them for around 1.5 yrs now and they are great!!! On average shipping takes 10-14 days, have had it as fast as a week!! No problems at all
flames9
here is a few others, BUT have never used them:

http://www.carealotpets.com/
http://www.vetshoponline.com/index.cfm
http://www.entirelypets.com/fronplusford1.html
Ephesia
Right there with ya! good.gif We bought our dog's heartworm and flea medicine from our vet for the first and last time early last year. I almost cried when they charged $300.00 to our credit card. No more. We now buy Phoebe's drugs online from Australia.


QUOTE(flames9 @ Mar 29 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Always come back with a grocery list from visiting canada,lol As we lI order my pet flea and heart meds from Australia!! Cheaper than here in the USA http://www.petsuppliesnet.com/shop.htm No prescriptions required!!
flames9
There are pet drug places online inthe USA, BUT one requires ur vet to write out a prescription, which many charge you!! No prescription required in Australia. I have been on a few pet forums and people say its impossible that they are the real stuff, blah blah blah,lol How can things be cheaper in other countries,lol Im pretty positive the one site tha I have used are the real things, they looked exactly like the ones I bought here. Now would I buy off of ebay? hell no,lol
GabiandVi
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 30 2008, 04:15 AM) *
I highly recommend Cepacol Dual Throat Spray. I was really sick last week, with my throat feeling like razorblades were stuck it it, and one sprat of the Cepacol and my throat pain was relieved for hours!


Cepacol! That's what those things were called! Thanks! They make lozenges and spray! Are they prescription?
govols
QUOTE(brtlmj @ Mar 28 2008, 09:48 PM) *
OK, let's start with a praise. Having lived in Poland, Germany and Ireland I love the availability and prices of OTC (over the counter - the stuff you can buy in a grocery store) drugs in the US. I especially appreciate the fact that no one forces me to buy ten pills at a time (when a hundred pills can be had for a similar price in the US). But, there is one exception...

I have a sore throat. So I went to a couple of stores and sure enough, each had at least half an aisle dedicated to sore throat. But nothing they have can actually help! It's all menthol, Benzocaine and similar anesthetists by a hundred names. Hey, pain relief is great. But what about something like Halset in Poland, or Strepsils in Ireland? Something that can kill those little buggers in my throat?

Does anyone know the reason for this? Some weird law? Or maybe a local custom?


Its quite simple why. Most European countries are looking to cure because there heath care is paid for out of taxes whereas in the US anything medical is big business and a cure would not be in the interest of the company's selling the product or the government who collects the billions of dollars taxes.

Tony
*julez*
QUOTE(GabiandVi @ Mar 30 2008, 08:58 AM) *
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 30 2008, 04:15 AM) *
I highly recommend Cepacol Dual Throat Spray. I was really sick last week, with my throat feeling like razorblades were stuck it it, and one sprat of the Cepacol and my throat pain was relieved for hours!


Cepacol! That's what those things were called! Thanks! They make lozenges and spray! Are they prescription?


Cepacol is non-prescription. Get the spray I talked about in my post, cos they have 2 different ones, plus the lozenges. It is seriously the best stuff ever!
Mononoke28
I honestly think that a lot of these drugs are sold with a prescription so they can charge more, it's all about money. My mom doesn't have insurance but she does go to the doctor here in the US to have her high blood pressure regulated, we take her Rx to Colombia and bring back her pills which cost 75% less. We also bring penicillin just in case.

They did ask her for her Rx once while coming in through Houston which she didn't have with her, the officer was going to take her medicine away and she said "If I get a heart attack because you took my medicine away, I'll make sure my lawyer takes you to court". He let her go without a fight after that. Go mom! kicking.gif

Diana
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