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FaustineJason
Hello, happy Tuesday people!!
I know I have been sending many posts these last days, but I have another question, though.
When I enter the US under K1 visa, we'd like to get married asap, just a few days after, so that we can start applying for AOS. Should we get my SSN before getting married or it doesn't matter if it is right after under my new name?? I read that it is ilportant to apply for SSN first thing, but if we wnat to get married a few days after my arrival, SSA won't probably have the info they need to give me a SSN...
What would be best?
Thanks!!!!!

Faustine
ddkm
After...SS Offices are usually not the nicest places so the fewer trips you have to make there, the better!
I Quit
QUOTE(FaustineJason @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) *
Hello, happy Tuesday people!!
I know I have been sending many posts these last days, but I have another question, though.
When I enter the US under K1 visa, we'd like to get married asap, just a few days after, so that we can start applying for AOS. Should we get my SSN before getting married or it doesn't matter if it is right after under my new name?? I read that it is ilportant to apply for SSN first thing, but if we wnat to get married a few days after my arrival, SSA won't probably have the info they need to give me a SSN...


It's not supposed to matter if you apply for the SSN before or after getting married, but some SSA starting making up their own rules when a K-1 applies after getting married. So it's your call. If you want less of a hassle apply before or after getting married with the maiden name. If you are feeling lucky and as someone said want one less trip to the SSA office, go with the married name.

Just remember if you try after getting married with the married name and the SSA office comes off some BS of you not being eligible because you are married, you can always try another office.

The main thing is being able to get the application processed before you have been her 76 days. After that point you are not eligible based on the K-1 status.

If you go the married name route, remember these things:

RM 00203.210 C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name

When an alien applies for an SSN card, SSA presumes the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred after the immigration document was issued.

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Name Data:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE:

http://web.archive.org/web/20051002025945/.../lnx/0100203735

If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, i.e. I-94, was issued, e.g., married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, i.e. SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

QUOTE(ddkm @ Mar 25 2008, 08:46 PM) *
After...SS Offices are usually not the nicest places..


Yes pure hell holes. LOL
JeffMayeth
QUOTE(I Quit @ Mar 26 2008, 09:00 AM) *
QUOTE(FaustineJason @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) *
Hello, happy Tuesday people!!
I know I have been sending many posts these last days, but I have another question, though.
When I enter the US under K1 visa, we'd like to get married asap, just a few days after, so that we can start applying for AOS. Should we get my SSN before getting married or it doesn't matter if it is right after under my new name?? I read that it is ilportant to apply for SSN first thing, but if we wnat to get married a few days after my arrival, SSA won't probably have the info they need to give me a SSN...


It's not supposed to matter if you apply for the SSN before or after getting married, but some SSA starting making up their own rules when a K-1 applies after getting married. So it's your call. If you want less of a hassle apply before or after getting married with the maiden name. If you are feeling lucky and as someone said want one less trip to the SSA office, go with the married name.

Just remember if you try after getting married with the married name and the SSA office comes off some BS of you not being eligible because you are married, you can always try another office.

The main thing is being able to get the application processed before you have been her 76 days. After that point you are not eligible based on the K-1 status.

If you go the married name route, remember these things:

RM 00203.210 C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name

When an alien applies for an SSN card, SSA presumes the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred after the immigration document was issued.

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Name Data:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE:

http://web.archive.org/web/20051002025945/.../lnx/0100203735

If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, i.e. I-94, was issued, e.g., married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, i.e. SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

QUOTE(ddkm @ Mar 25 2008, 08:46 PM) *
After...SS Offices are usually not the nicest places..


Yes pure hell holes. LOL



My experience is that I applied after we got our marriage certificate... go to SS office in Hampton VA.. with my application form, marriage certificate, passport and I-94. The employee saw that I'm on K1 visa she don't know how to treat it so she asked her superior how to process it... and then her superior said treat it as normal.. but then when she saw that I'm applying for SSN on married name she said its not good for apply now.. wait after a month. But then we asked her is there any way we can get it.. and she asked where do we need it for.. my husband told her we need it to get me in his medical benefits, driver's license, etc. So, she asked as to come in the office then she tried to process it. And she said, it worked! Whew!

We applied last week and my card arrived in mail last Monday!

Good luck!

Mayeth
FaustineJason
Hello,
Many thanks for these explainations...
I think I will go to the SSA to know what is the best to do, as I am now in the US visiting my boyfriend.
I Quit: All the links to RM...... seem pretty complicated, but I will try to understand everything to make the right decision!
Thanks
Have a good day!

Faustine
I Quit
QUOTE(FaustineJason @ Mar 26 2008, 03:47 PM) *
I Quit: All the links to RM...... seem pretty complicated, but I will try to understand everything...


Well that is the procedure SSA employees are supposed to follow, so reading and understanding it is the only way you know they are giving you correct information and doing the right thing.

I read it everyday, so it has finally made sense to me. LOL
kjw


I arrived here in the states on last dec. 12 2007 under K1 VISA. we got married feb.21, 2008. apply for SSN feb. 22,2008. it is past 1 month already but my SSN card not yet arrived till now. march 19, 2008 went back to SSA office to follow up the card. the lady said they sent the card already till now no card in the mail box yet. But she gave me my SSN number printed in the white paper.

so what do you think guys?
is it my SSN card stocked on the road and had a very bad traffic? lol! thats y my card not arrive here yet?
I Quit
QUOTE(kevin_johna @ Mar 26 2008, 04:19 PM) *
I arrived here in the states on last dec. 12 2007 under K1 VISA. we got married feb.21, 2008. apply for SSN feb. 22,2008. it is past 1 month already but my SSN card not yet arrived till now. march 19, 2008 went back to SSA office to follow up the card. the lady said they sent the card already till now no card in the mail box yet. But she gave me my SSN number printed in the white paper.


If you arrived December 12th of 2007 and you don't receive the card, you will need to wait until you have an EAD card or I-551 to be issued a replacement card. Did they tell you the date the SSN was
assigned? If it's been over a couple weeks, the card most likely got lost in the mail.
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