Jeraly
Mar 19 2008, 05:04 PM
Ok - I figured as this is the word on everyone's lips at the moment that we needed somewhere to keep all the info in one place.
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First off:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...types_2994.htmlQUOTE
Vaccination Requirements
United States immigration law requires immigrant visa applicants to obtain certain vaccinations prior to the issuance of an immigrant visa. Panel physicians who conduct medical examinations of immigrant visa applicants are required to verify that immigrant visa applicants have met the vaccination requirements. See IV Vaccination Requirements for the list of required vaccinations and additional information.
As a fiancé(e), you are not required to fulfill this requirement at the time of your medical examination for a fiancé(e) visa. However, you may want to do so. These vaccinations are required when you adjust status following your marriage.
By this we can assume that we don't need to get the HPV vaccine until we are in the US (by "we" I mean females under the age of 27:
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/...ccinechart.htmlI would still like to know what happens if our last injection (as it seems to be a six month course of three injections) falls after our 27th birthday. Any info on this would be welcome.
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Next:
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/niv/add_crime.htmlQUOTE
Applicants who have, or have applied for, a Subject Access Statement
If you have applied for, or are in possession of a Subject Access Statement, and you will appear for a visa interview before August 15, 2008, the Nonimmigrant Visa Section will accept this Statement, provided it was issued within 6 months of the date of the visa interview. Applicants appearing for interviews on or after August 15 will be required to furnish the new style police certificate from the ACPO.
As the K-1 is a NON-IMMIGRANT VISA we can also assume that the above is true for us. I have read that there is dispute about consulates stating that K-1 is IMMIGRANT. I am going to print the information that clearly states it isn't and wave it in the face of any officials who contest otherwise

There is also a thread regarding the Police Certificate
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Hope this helps some people and I hope we can get more info here as well
Alex & Rachel
Mar 19 2008, 05:40 PM
Thank you, Jeraly

Sucks that I'll have to get the HPV vaccine - I'll hopefully have completed AOS long before I am 27. I just have to work out whether it's going to be better getting the vaccine here or in the US - it may be cheaper in the US, but I'd to get as much as possible out of the way before I emigrate.
Poiteen
Mar 19 2008, 05:47 PM
I'm so annoyed about this, I think that the police cert + HPV combo is enough to warrant an extortion line call. Humph. I don't have the wait-for-AOS option since i'm CR-1. And I really was hoping to go in august, so 6 months is really pushing it.
What I don't understand is do they give you the whole course in Knightsbridge? in one day? if so, maybe they are the most economical option? 120GBP is better than 3x80GBP which is the best price i've heard from GP's.
hmmmmm
Poiteen
Mar 19 2008, 06:01 PM
This is the equivilent page for immigrant visas:
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/iv/ukpc.htmlnot looking good for me
greeneyedgirlfl
Mar 19 2008, 06:10 PM
They certainly don't make this process easy, do they?
TheATeam
Mar 19 2008, 06:13 PM
Are vaccines required in the UK for a K1 visa? I know that the USCIS says that they aren't, but I contacted the consulate in Canada and here they are, regardless of the visa type. If they're not required for a K1 visa, then the HPV vaccine isn't something to worry about. That vaccine isn't required for AOS.
Edited to also add that as far as I understand it, you only need the first injection for the interview to be a success. After that, they strongly recommend you get the other two shots.
rebeccajo
Mar 19 2008, 06:13 PM
You'd be better off to email the embassy with any concerns you have. You'll get little useful information out of calling the extortion line.
Insofar as the vaccine goes, it's just not the type of thing you can do in 'one dose'. It's three injections here over a period of time also.
I can almost guarantee you that even if the vaccine is expensive at your Doc, it'll be worse at Knightsbridge.
Poiteen
Mar 20 2008, 04:45 AM
Hello all,
just got off the phone to Knightsbridge... She said that they only need to see that I've had the first dose, and have started the course, and at that point i'm approved as far as the HPV is concerned.
If you are K-1 I suppose you can tell them that you'll have it done in the US before AOS. (Though it seems to be questionable if it's required for AOS at all)
I'm not sure when I'd need to finish the course by, or who'd be checking up on it after that point - removal of conditions?

well at least I know i don't have to wait around for 6 months to get a course of unnessesary medication.
Jeraly
Mar 20 2008, 05:19 AM
QUOTE(Poiteen @ Mar 19 2008, 10:47 PM)

What I don't understand is do they give you the whole course in Knightsbridge? in one day? if so, maybe they are the most economical option? 120GBP is better than 3x80GBP which is the best price i've heard from GP's.
Wow - which GP? Mine said £399 because that is how much the company GP Care (0117 956 2100) cost! I mean - even one injection at £80 is better than that... but it is still cheaper in the US so I am going to print out all the evidence saying K-1 is a non-immigrant visa and that the vaccines aren't required for it until AOS then wave it in their faces if they contest that!!
QUOTE(TheATeam @ Mar 19 2008, 11:13 PM)

Edited to also add that as far as I understand it, you only need the first injection for the interview to be a success. After that, they strongly recommend you get the other two shots.
Do you have a link to where it says that? I would like to add it to my collection for when I go through AOS

Of course if I am going to start it I might well finish it anyway - at least then it won't be wasted money even if I have to spend a bit more on it - guess it will have to depend on finances

QUOTE(Poiteen @ Mar 20 2008, 09:45 AM)

just got off the phone to Knightsbridge... She said that they only need to see that I've had the first dose, and have started the course, and at that point i'm approved as far as the HPV is concerned.
If you are K-1 I suppose you can tell them that you'll have it done in the US before AOS. (Though it seems to be questionable if it's required for AOS at all)

well at least I know i don't have to wait around for 6 months to get a course of unnessesary medication.

Great news that you dont' have to hang around!!! An if we only need the first injection then it does make things seem a little easier
Toshtishtash
Mar 20 2008, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(Poiteen @ Mar 19 2008, 10:47 PM)

What I don't understand is do they give you the whole course in Knightsbridge? in one day? if so, maybe they are the most economical option? 120GBP is better than 3x80GBP which is the best price i've heard from GP's.
hmmmmm
Yeh, that's what I was saying yesterday. My GP quoted me £80 per injection x 3 and Knightsbridge docs quoted me £120. I have a feeling that the £120 is only for the first injection though.
I think i'm just going to wait until AOS and then just wait and see what happens.

If I have to have it done, then so be it. Good news that we might only need the 1 though and not the 3!
Jeraly
Mar 23 2008, 10:40 AM
*bump*
People are still asking about the police certificate as well so if they could post here then it would help to keep all the info in the same place...
rebeccajo
Mar 23 2008, 10:48 AM
Maybe if you all would take your discussions to the embassy forum, rather than here, there would not be so much confusion.
Not everyone from the UK reads the regional forum. In fact, few do. Embassy questions would be best served in the proper forum.
Poiteen
Mar 23 2008, 01:28 PM
i think since the Police Cert discussion at least is unique to the UK it is perfectly valid to have the thread here.
Ting Tong Farang
Mar 23 2008, 01:35 PM
Not specific to the UK, they are pulling the same crap in Thailand. I'd rather my fiancee got it here so insurance would pay for it. I feel like we were extorted and it's BS.
Jeraly
Mar 23 2008, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(Ting Tong Farang @ Mar 23 2008, 06:35 PM)

Not specific to the UK, they are pulling the same crap in Thailand. I'd rather my fiancee got it here so insurance would pay for it. I feel like we were extorted and it's BS.
But you have to have the police certificate before you can enter the US... that is if you are talking about the UK-specific police certificate...
As for HPV - as far as I can tell it can't be done on insurance in the US because it isn't considered a mandatory vaccine
rebeccajo
Mar 23 2008, 04:34 PM
QUOTE(Poiteen @ Mar 23 2008, 02:28 PM)

i think since the Police Cert discussion at least is unique to the UK it is perfectly valid to have the thread here.

All I'm saying is more people are likely to read the discussion in the Embassy Forums.
Poiteen
Mar 24 2008, 12:05 PM
rebeccajo
Mar 24 2008, 12:07 PM
My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
*julez*
Mar 24 2008, 12:24 PM
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 01:07 PM)

My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
Your son had to get the HPV vaccine?
TracyTN
Mar 24 2008, 12:54 PM
Yeah- that'd be a first!
illumine
Mar 24 2008, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(TracyTN @ Mar 24 2008, 10:54 AM)

Yeah- that'd be a first!
rebeccajo
Mar 24 2008, 03:51 PM
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 01:07 PM)

My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
Your son had to get the HPV vaccine?
Oops. That's damn embarrassing.
I was at work and read too fast before I posted.
I meant the HEP series.
I'm glad Zach doesn't read here. He'd kill me.
*julez*
Mar 24 2008, 04:31 PM
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 04:51 PM)

QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 01:07 PM)

My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
Your son had to get the HPV vaccine?
Oops. That's damn embarrassing.
I was at work and read too fast before I posted.
I meant the HEP series.
I'm glad Zach doesn't read here. He'd kill me.
I figured as much, but felt clarification was necessary!

But, really, it IS good that your son doens;t read here!
rebeccajo
Mar 24 2008, 04:40 PM
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 05:31 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 04:51 PM)

QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 01:07 PM)

My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
Your son had to get the HPV vaccine?
Oops. That's damn embarrassing.
I was at work and read too fast before I posted.
I meant the HEP series.
I'm glad Zach doesn't read here. He'd kill me.
I figured as much, but felt clarification was necessary!

But, really, it IS good that your son doens;t read here!
Why?
Jeraly
Mar 24 2008, 05:40 PM
Hehehe

Poiteen - I know what you mean - Jeremy was p*ssed because of that very reason - he sent an e-mail to the DOS (he isn't normally that pro-active!) although what he thinks it will do I don't know...
As I understand it you can get away with just having the first injection so... Pity you can't get it done in the US if you are filing for CR-1
*julez*
Mar 24 2008, 06:28 PM
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 05:40 PM)

QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 05:31 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 04:51 PM)

QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 24 2008, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 24 2008, 01:07 PM)

My son had to have the vaccines to attend university in West Virginia.
Your son had to get the HPV vaccine?
Oops. That's damn embarrassing.
I was at work and read too fast before I posted.
I meant the HEP series.
I'm glad Zach doesn't read here. He'd kill me.
I figured as much, but felt clarification was necessary!

But, really, it IS good that your son doens;t read here!
Why?
I know my son would be upset if I implied he'd had a round of "girly" vaccines!
Poiteen
Mar 25 2008, 07:21 AM
Jeraly -
Not only that but as far as i can tell, it's not yet required for AOS (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but more than that, if i lived in any one of 48 state I would not need it at all, if i lived in the 2 states i mentioned above I would STILL not have to have it because I am not likely to be entering the 6th grade any time soon. FURTHERMORE even if I was of schoolgoing age I could opt out if I wanted to. This kind of thing gets on my goat. I reckon I'll have to have the first injection, but I am seriously considering not having the 2 follow up injections.
Jeraly
Mar 25 2008, 08:50 AM
I know - part of me thinks if I am going to have the first one then I might as well get the rest but we'll see how money fares when I move I think...
Poiteen
Mar 25 2008, 09:57 AM
That's what my OH argues, If i'm going to have the first one, and don't have a reaction, then I'm not likely to have a reaction to the others... doesn't look like I have a choice about the first one anyway.
Do you know if it is needed for AOS?
elmcitymaven
Mar 25 2008, 10:22 AM
QUOTE(Poiteen @ Mar 25 2008, 10:57 AM)

That's what my OH argues, If i'm going to have the first one, and don't have a reaction, then I'm not likely to have a reaction to the others... doesn't look like I have a choice about the first one anyway.
Do you know if it is needed for AOS?
But Poiteen, you don’t need to do AOS! Why would you bother to waste the money on the two further shots if you don’t need or want them?
This may be one to ask at your interview – do CR1/IR1 wives under 27 need to complete the course when they get over to America?
Jeraly
Mar 25 2008, 11:47 AM
I think it is needed for AOS but maven is right - I don't think you need to do AOS on CR-1 etc - you get your green card anyway
Poiteen
Mar 25 2008, 01:21 PM
I know that
I was just wondering, so I can fuel my annoyance
I've been looking around, and I see who or when the last 2 shots would be checked up on. Removing conditions doesn't seem to have any medical requirements, though if there was something left unfinished in my file at the time the visa was issued, it might pop up then?
Poiteen
Mar 26 2008, 05:49 AM
I made my medical appointment yesterday for the 14th April. Today I made an appointment with my normal doctor, but I have to check with them tomorrow to see if they have the HPV vaccine, and how much it costs. The receptionist didn't know but *thinks* it's £80 - I have to call tomorrow to get the Lady that deals with private shots. So I'll keep you updated ...
Jeraly
Mar 26 2008, 08:52 AM
Good call - not sure why everyone is getting quoted £80 and my doc said it was £399 for the course

I need to get a letter from my doc as well but I am going to chase that again when I have my med/interview date!!
L & P
Mar 26 2008, 09:06 AM
Well I just realised ....thanks to that thread that my daughter might need HPV. She just turned 11
Jeraly
Mar 26 2008, 09:22 AM
I can't imagine them making it mandatory and not subsidising it somehow
L & P
Mar 26 2008, 09:28 AM
Wel she will be having last hepatitis A and B shot next week. She started them last year to go to Senegal with my mum. She will have those and I think I will wait Medical for HPV. All her other vaccins are up to date
Poiteen
Mar 26 2008, 10:11 AM
Yes, according to the latest table 11-26 year olds need it.
http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/...ccinechart.html
karvy02
Apr 18 2008, 04:56 AM
Well, my fiance had his interview this morning and since I'm EXTREMELY meticulous with paperwork, I made sure he had absolutely everything that was required. I-134 Affidavits of Support with heaping amounts of evidence, passport photos, a copy of the NOA2 and I-129F, and of course, his police certificate.
The good news is that my fiance was approved for his visa, but the bad news is that we're being delayed because there's a new police certificate form being used in obtaining visas to the US, NZ, and Australia. I didn't know about this NEW certificate, but apparently the US Embassy is ONLY ACCEPTING the new police certification starting THIS WEEK. We were never notified in our packets regarding this new regulation or certificate and were unaware of this.
So my fiance was given a blue courier slip saying "Approved pending missing document" and he needs to go through another layer of paperwork and of course, more fees, before we can send back the passport and get the visa. It's extremely infuriating, especially because we were given no official notice of this new regulation.
The new police certificate form for UK filers can be found here:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.aspStill fuming...
Sal and Jay
Apr 18 2008, 05:06 AM
QUOTE(karvy02 @ Apr 18 2008, 10:56 AM)

Well, my fiance had his interview this morning and since I'm EXTREMELY meticulous with paperwork, I made sure he had absolutely everything that was required. I-134 Affidavits of Support with heaping amounts of evidence, passport photos, a copy of the NOA2 and I-129F, and of course, his police certificate.
The good news is that my fiance was approved for his visa, but the bad news is that we're being delayed because there's a new police certificate form being used in obtaining visas to the US, NZ, and Australia. I didn't know about this NEW certificate, but apparently the US Embassy is ONLY ACCEPTING the new police certification starting THIS WEEK. We were never notified in our packets regarding this new regulation or certificate and were unaware of this.
So my fiance was given a blue courier slip saying "Approved pending missing document" and he needs to go through another layer of paperwork and of course, more fees, before we can send back the passport and get the visa. It's extremely infuriating, especially because we were given no official notice of this new regulation.
The new police certificate form for UK filers can be found here:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.aspStill fuming...

Congrats on the Visa approval, I understand how you feel, I read a posting saying that the old version of police report was ok till August, but I decided to get the ACPO one in case, im glad i have now. From what I understand it takes about 10 Days to arrive.
jeffmich2007
Apr 18 2008, 05:41 AM
QUOTE(Sal and Jay @ Apr 18 2008, 05:06 AM)

QUOTE(karvy02 @ Apr 18 2008, 10:56 AM)

Well, my fiance had his interview this morning and since I'm EXTREMELY meticulous with paperwork, I made sure he had absolutely everything that was required. I-134 Affidavits of Support with heaping amounts of evidence, passport photos, a copy of the NOA2 and I-129F, and of course, his police certificate.
The good news is that my fiance was approved for his visa, but the bad news is that we're being delayed because there's a new police certificate form being used in obtaining visas to the US, NZ, and Australia. I didn't know about this NEW certificate, but apparently the US Embassy is ONLY ACCEPTING the new police certification starting THIS WEEK. We were never notified in our packets regarding this new regulation or certificate and were unaware of this.
So my fiance was given a blue courier slip saying "Approved pending missing document" and he needs to go through another layer of paperwork and of course, more fees, before we can send back the passport and get the visa. It's extremely infuriating, especially because we were given no official notice of this new regulation.
The new police certificate form for UK filers can be found here:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.aspStill fuming...

Congrats on the Visa approval, I understand how you feel, I read a posting saying that the old version of police report was ok till August, but I decided to get the ACPO one in case, im glad i have now. From what I understand it takes about 10 Days to arrive.
I too had to go get a new Police Certificate since i did get the old version back in January but now they changed it !
If you want you can have super fast certificate at the cost of £70 and have it in a couple days

Michelle
Damian&Kelly
Apr 18 2008, 06:17 AM
i don't think its worth paying double.. it says it takes like 10 days but my fiance paid the 35 and it only took 4 or 5 days we were very surprised.
L & P
Apr 18 2008, 06:18 AM
I got the new one and it took only 4 working days....so keep your fingers crossed...might come faster than you think
jeffmich2007
Apr 18 2008, 06:26 AM
[quote name='karvy02' date='Apr 18 2008, 04:56 AM' post='1766555']
Well, my fiance had his interview this morning and since I'm EXTREMELY meticulous with paperwork, I made sure he had absolutely everything that was required. I-134 Affidavits of Support with heaping amounts of evidence, passport photos, a copy of the NOA2 and I-129F, and of course, his police certificate.
The good news is that my fiance was approved for his visa, but the bad news is that we're being delayed because there's a new police certificate form being used in obtaining visas to the US, NZ, and Australia. I didn't know about this NEW certificate, but apparently the US Embassy is ONLY ACCEPTING the new police certification starting THIS WEEK. We were never notified in our packets regarding this new regulation or certificate and were unaware of this.
So my fiance was given a blue courier slip saying "Approved pending missing document" and he needs to go through another layer of paperwork and of course, more fees, before we can send back the passport and get the visa. It's extremely infuriating, especially because we were given no official notice of this new regulation.
The new police certificate form for UK filers can be found here:
http://www.acpo.police.uk/certificates.aspStill fuming...

While it is annoying having to wait a little longer for Visa you are just think your just about done with USCIS for a little while and look on bright side your fiance will be with you soon

London are fast with Administration so it wont be too long

You got through the worst of it all

Now the good times are ahead

Michelle
milneshine
Apr 18 2008, 06:34 AM
Yes, but the ridiculous thing is if the old certificate proved you weren't a criminal the new one will do the same checks and come up with the same result! I understand your frustration but thankfully some of the posts on here warned me of the issue. You were TWO days after their deadline.
The new one has a photo on it so I can see why they have chosen it. Not sure why they charge so much though.
latteberry
Apr 18 2008, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I could never get anyone to give me a straight answer at NVC, where they've been holding up our packet from being sent to London because of the "new" certificate requirement, even though the old one was supposed to still be valid. So, while I was waiting for them to pull their heads out we just went ahead and ordered a new one.
The real pain is having an "authorized person" write and sign the identity affidavit on the back of that teeny passport-sized picture. It can't be just anyone, it has to be a solicitor, your GP, your optometrist, a teacher, etc. who has known you for at least 2 years.
We used his optometrist and sent it via the regular, non-expedited method. We got it back in like 4 days, over this last bank holiday weekend. It wouldn't have been worth paying double for it to get here on virtually the same day. We ordered a second copy included for only £5 more which will be worth it when the interview comes up.
So, we sent that in to NVC a couple of weeks ago and hopefully they will *finally* send our paperwork to London so we can get our interview appt.
Jeraly
Apr 18 2008, 11:09 AM
I used the old certificate last week and it was fine - I started a post about a month ago about the new police certificate with links and references that says it can be used until August - I printed it all out and was going to wave it in their face if they had anything to say about my old one

Here:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=116959
redkitty
Apr 19 2008, 04:45 AM
Just wanted to say we got the new police certificate in 4 days! Nothing is that fast in this country!!
Stan1234
Apr 19 2008, 08:14 AM
I'm a little confused now, I sent off to the met police and have now finally received a police certificate or what i think is a police cert. Its has National Identification Services Authentic Document stamped along the top, then other than some fancy printing in the background, just seems to be a letter saying Dear/Sir Madad, Section 7, Data protection act, yada yada in reply to you request, blah, no information held, yours faithfully. Is this ok to be used to april, or should I hand over another £35 and get the ACPO thing done?
Cheers
Poiteen
Apr 19 2008, 09:03 AM
It seems they've stopped accepting the old Subject Access form which you have. Yes, that's another £35 you'll never see again
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