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Sinergy
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 17 2008, 06:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Sinergy @ Mar 17 2008, 01:18 PM) *
I think if she really used him, yea, he has every right to send her home, he brought her here, with the thought that she loved him and really wanted to be with him, and the whole time she was lieing. Yea, he has every right to wanna send her back home. I dont think hes horrible for wanting that, nor do i think hes "disposing of her". She used him to get here, and its him who can send her home. Using ppl is wrong, and id be just as pissed as he is.

and OMG, ive never seen so much breaking of TOS in any thread on VJ blink.gif


Evidently the mods are taking a long winter's nap. We have the right to "wanna" anything but not the "right" force a fiance or spouse to get on a plane. Only the authorities can do that.

Legally speaking yea, i agree with ya, emotionally speaking, nah, his heart is broken and his hurt and angry. But legally, yea, as you sd, only the authorities can do that.
yunwoo
Im so sorry, refund is only allowed for first 30 days and merchandise must be returned in as new condition.[size="4"][/size]
pokernut
i did learn from the first one. I didnt marry this one and im not going through 2 years of hell to be dumped at the end of the paperwork trail... I at least improved... I caught this one early on ... and shes gone.... as soon as i can get it done...

Mrs.J06
QUOTE(pokernut @ Mar 17 2008, 10:01 PM) *
i did learn from the first one. I didnt marry this one and im not going through 2 years of hell to be dumped at the end of the paperwork trail... I at least improved... I caught this one early on ... and shes gone.... as soon as i can get it done...


Pokernut, even though I do understand your pain and feel for you, I think your wording is somewhat off on that.

Maybe you should take a step back and make sure it won't happen with the next one again. Don't get me wrong, I wish you the best whatever the outcome of this will be, but please show some respect for fellow human beings.
LaL
QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 17 2008, 01:09 AM) *
This isnt the thread for having a little fun. Try the OFF TOPIC threads.


Thanks Jason-Sasha, I agree with you.


QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 17 2008, 04:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Sinergy @ Mar 17 2008, 01:18 PM) *
I think if she really used him, yea, he has every right to send her home, he brought her here, with the thought that she loved him and really wanted to be with him, and the whole time she was lieing. Yea, he has every right to wanna send her back home. I dont think hes horrible for wanting that, nor do i think hes "disposing of her". She used him to get here, and its him who can send her home. Using ppl is wrong, and id be just as pissed as he is.

and OMG, ive never seen so much breaking of TOS in any thread on VJ blink.gif


Evidently the mods are taking a long winter's nap. We have the right to "wanna" anything but not the "right" force a fiance or spouse to get on a plane. Only the authorities can do that.



A PM would have done the trick, we do not "hunt" for TOS violations and depend on members to report infractions to us.


That aside - either the posts in this thread ease up and stay on topic or this thread may be closed. I am now moving this to the proper forum (organizers?).
rebeccajo
QUOTE(LaL @ Mar 18 2008, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 17 2008, 01:09 AM) *
This isnt the thread for having a little fun. Try the OFF TOPIC threads.


Thanks Jason-Sasha, I agree with you.


QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 17 2008, 04:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Sinergy @ Mar 17 2008, 01:18 PM) *
I think if she really used him, yea, he has every right to send her home, he brought her here, with the thought that she loved him and really wanted to be with him, and the whole time she was lieing. Yea, he has every right to wanna send her back home. I dont think hes horrible for wanting that, nor do i think hes "disposing of her". She used him to get here, and its him who can send her home. Using ppl is wrong, and id be just as pissed as he is.

and OMG, ive never seen so much breaking of TOS in any thread on VJ blink.gif


Evidently the mods are taking a long winter's nap. We have the right to "wanna" anything but not the "right" force a fiance or spouse to get on a plane. Only the authorities can do that.



A PM would have done the trick, we do not "hunt" for TOS violations and depend on members to report infractions to us.


That aside - either the posts in this thread ease up and stay on topic or this thread may be closed. I am now moving this to the proper forum (organizers?).


The org's don't get a PM either.

Personally I left the thread where it was because there has been no marriage. Thus no immigration benefits to be affected.
athena_ny
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Mar 18 2008, 11:32 AM) *
QUOTE(LaL @ Mar 18 2008, 11:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 17 2008, 01:09 AM) *
This isnt the thread for having a little fun. Try the OFF TOPIC threads.


Thanks Jason-Sasha, I agree with you.


QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 17 2008, 04:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Sinergy @ Mar 17 2008, 01:18 PM) *
I think if she really used him, yea, he has every right to send her home, he brought her here, with the thought that she loved him and really wanted to be with him, and the whole time she was lieing. Yea, he has every right to wanna send her back home. I dont think hes horrible for wanting that, nor do i think hes "disposing of her". She used him to get here, and its him who can send her home. Using ppl is wrong, and id be just as pissed as he is.

and OMG, ive never seen so much breaking of TOS in any thread on VJ blink.gif


Evidently the mods are taking a long winter's nap. We have the right to "wanna" anything but not the "right" force a fiance or spouse to get on a plane. Only the authorities can do that.



A PM would have done the trick, we do not "hunt" for TOS violations and depend on members to report infractions to us.


That aside - either the posts in this thread ease up and stay on topic or this thread may be closed. I am now moving this to the proper forum (organizers?).


The org's don't get a PM either.

Personally I left the thread where it was because there has been no marriage. Thus no immigration benefits to be affected.


I did the same.
Nutty
Dear Pokernut,

I am sorry that you had to find out the hard way....

I lived in Asia (India and Thailand mostly) so I had many Thai girlfriends and we often talked "girl to girl" about the subject of "finding a western man" for them. I won't deny that many of my friends were in the "market" to find a western provider. Some girls were accepting that maybe the guy isn't perfect and learn to love them if they were treated well and taken care of. But if the ATTRACTION isn't even there, then it's hard to fake and eventually the marriage suffers.

It is hard enough marrying someone with a great age disparity, but then add to this a cultural difference, lack of shared interests...

I hope it all works out for you.

Tina
Sinergy
I kept it where it was bc it was a K-1 issue, it didnt belong in OT, and there hasnt been anything passed the K-1 entry, especially since they are not married yet.

I was also half asleep when i read this. whistling.gif
MRS BILLY BONG
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.
pushbrk
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.


I too am surprised we don't see more like this but the process isn't rushing anybody into marriage or decisions to marry. Those choices are made by the individuals and cannot be blamed on some system.
zqt3344
It is simple. You not married to this scammer during the 90 day k1 visa perios = not your problem, stop worrying about her, report her to ICE and let them know you are not getting married and what happened, let her find her own way back home, wash her off your hands and out the front door of your home, she made her choice.

You got married to this scammer before the end of the 90 day K1 expires = better get a divorce asap and get a lawyer for you have some complex issues in your life now to deal with and probably some expenses.

Best of luck.
kicking.gif

QUOTE(pokernut @ Mar 16 2008, 03:47 PM) *
To make a long story short, I want her sent back asap. I dont have the money to send her back right away. I dont feel that she deserves even an extended vacation here at the costs that this has already brought to me. Its going to be two months before I can get a ticket for her to go back. Can I just call immigration and they come and get her? Maybe they can bill me? What can I do to get her on a plane back to her home country as soon as possible???

MRS BILLY BONG
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.


I too am surprised we don't see more like this but the process isn't rushing anybody into marriage or decisions to marry. Those choices are made by the individuals and cannot be blamed on some system.


90 days for the K1 - most people need 6 months minimum to plan a wedding...it's so unpredictable.
pushbrk
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.


I too am surprised we don't see more like this but the process isn't rushing anybody into marriage or decisions to marry. Those choices are made by the individuals and cannot be blamed on some system.


90 days for the K1 - most people need 6 months minimum to plan a wedding...it's so unpredictable.


K1 is a fiance(e) visa, so the 90 days begins months after the decision to marry has already been made. It's not a sight unseen mail order bride scenario.
MRS BILLY BONG
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.


I too am surprised we don't see more like this but the process isn't rushing anybody into marriage or decisions to marry. Those choices are made by the individuals and cannot be blamed on some system.


90 days for the K1 - most people need 6 months minimum to plan a wedding...it's so unpredictable.


K1 is a fiance(e) visa, so the 90 days begins months after the decision to marry has already been made. It's not a sight unseen mail order bride scenario.


What Im saying is that K1ers cant exactly pick a wedding date... can they? Hell, I tried to plan having a baby around one of these K1's.
Caladan
QUOTE(pokernut @ Mar 17 2008, 01:13 AM) *
just out of curiosity.. when she goes back to her home country, would this affect how long she would have to wait to file a work visa?


Maybe. It depends in part on whether she falls out of status (if she's only been here two months she's still in status), incurs an overstay, etc.

ICE isn't going to come and pick her up when she's in status and return her to her home country. You can report her to ICE, and that may launch an investigation which will culminate in her deportation, but it won't be a quick or easy process for her, and certainly not one you can rely on to get rid of her while she's still in status.
pushbrk
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 06:13 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(MRS BILLY BONG @ Mar 18 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Hey - this process keeps people apart. Some never even have the chance of getting to know the other until they are rushed into marriage. I'm surprised we dont see more posts like this.


I too am surprised we don't see more like this but the process isn't rushing anybody into marriage or decisions to marry. Those choices are made by the individuals and cannot be blamed on some system


90 days for the K1 - most people need 6 months minimum to plan a wedding...it's so unpredictable.


K1 is a fiance(e) visa, so the 90 days begins months after the decision to marry has already been made. It's not a sight unseen mail order bride scenario.


What Im saying is that K1ers cant exactly pick a wedding date... can they? Hell, I tried to plan having a baby around one of these K1's.


Your bolded above has nothing to do with picking a wedding date. I understand K1 folks don't have the same freedom plan the kind of "wedding" at facilities and with some of the kinds of services many big wedding/receptions feature but that goes more to the kind of ceremony than to the success of the marital relationship. Successful marriages come from every conceivable kind of "wedding". On the other hand, our so far very successful and happy marriage has followed a very nice wedding and reception that was planned in far less than 90 days.
Caladan
If you think 90 days isn't enough time to know whether your significant other is the real thing, then you need not to file. Seriously. Aside from the immigration aspect, you're allegedly getting married and signing a bunch of financial paperwork, right?

Plus, the visa's good for six months. We started planning our wedding the day he got the visa for five months down the road. He entered about three months after getting the visa. Big floofy Catholic wedding with a reception of 75 guests.
pushbrk
QUOTE(Caladan @ Mar 19 2008, 09:15 AM) *
If you think 90 days isn't enough time to know whether your significant other is the real thing, then you need not to file. Seriously. Aside from the immigration aspect, you're allegedly getting married and signing a bunch of financial paperwork, right?

Plus, the visa's good for six months. We started planning our wedding the day he got the visa for five months down the road. He entered about three months after getting the visa. Big floofy Catholic wedding with a reception of 75 guests.


Right. Any rushing is a result of personal choices, not the visa process. K1 is a fiance(e) visa. You file the petition AFTER you make the decision to marry. Nothing about the visa process dictates how you make the decision about who to marry.
gtron
this thread is really sad. it's too bad he might have been deceived. it's too bad that he isn't smarter. it's too bad that he thinks humans are like merchandise. both sides are very disturbing and sad to read or think about.
TinTin and Samby
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 16 2008, 10:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Corey-Mariya @ Mar 17 2008, 06:37 AM) *
I think all he is looking for is a sympathy party and i dont feel bad for him at all! And i Dont think he could of really been in love with her! Did he really love her? Or did he love how young she was and how she looked?

how dare you?! who gives a damn what you 'think'? this isn't a thread for us all to give our disinterested opinions on, like who's going to win the Superbowl... this is a real person with a real problem who has asked for help

you've NEVER made an error of judgement, Corey-Mariya? you've NEVER formed an impression of someone, good or bad, which later turned out to be incorrect? you've NEVER wanted something to turn out right, so persisted with it even when a little voice was whispering you might be wrong about that? lay your perfect life and perfect choices bare for us all to read, and then we'll all tell you what we 'think' of you

as for the 'retarded' comment - words fail me

get some compassion, or shut up

in fact, just shut up; I haven't seen a word of sense posted by you in any thread



Amen! good.gif
Magenta
There has been no mention of a scam. Please don't automatically assume that unless the OP indicates this is the case. It could be a simply a of lack of attraction, personality differences or that it just didn't work out.

QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Mar 18 2008, 03:54 PM) *
It is simple. You not married to this scammer during the 90 day k1 visa perios = not your problem, stop worrying about her, report her to ICE and let them know you are not getting married and what happened, let her find her own way back home, wash her off your hands and out the front door of your home, she made her choice.

You got married to this scammer before the end of the 90 day K1 expires = better get a divorce asap and get a lawyer for you have some complex issues in your life now to deal with and probably some expenses.

Best of luck.
kicking.gif

QUOTE(pokernut @ Mar 16 2008, 03:47 PM) *
To make a long story short, I want her sent back asap. I dont have the money to send her back right away. I dont feel that she deserves even an extended vacation here at the costs that this has already brought to me. Its going to be two months before I can get a ticket for her to go back. Can I just call immigration and they come and get her? Maybe they can bill me? What can I do to get her on a plane back to her home country as soon as possible???


Nessa
QUOTE(KarenCee @ Mar 17 2008, 05:31 AM) *
QUOTE(Y_habibitk @ Mar 16 2008, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE(melusine @ Mar 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No offenses either but thoses cases are i think expected when for example you have 25 yrs difference or someone really heavy with a tiny young adult all cute and fancy from poorer countries.

I do not know what is your situation.

I saw some picts on the gallery that sometime..... i wonder about the honnesty of all that.


I have seen couples like you're describing above.. here.. both usc. Some people like older men/women and some ppl like some "curves" lol
No offense, I get what youre saying but....come on!


THIS is a perfect example of why I have taken all my pics out of the gallery. Too many judgmental people who look at them and make comments like this. Some brazen enough to address certain people directly about their photos. UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE. blink.gif

To the OP...IMHO you could have phrased your opening post with a bit more discretion. I do believe it would have avoided this onslaught of judgment towards you. I am sorry this has happened to you. If you have not married this person and she leaves to go with this friend you mentioned, then count yourself lucky. She cannot adjust status without marriage to you, she will be out of status after 90 days, and you have nothing further to worry about. Let her find her own way home.

ditto on the judgemental people. That pisses the he!! outta me.

and ditto on her finding her way home. Good luck to the OP.
Habilus
It is a violation of the sacntity of ones life to give someone your complete trust and invite them to share a life together, only to have them emotionally devistate you, finaciallly destroy you, physically exhaust you and invade your home like an occupying army. This I can speak from experience.

So I can understand the ease at which the original poster made the statement "I want her out ASAP."

Every few months, I get a chance to sleep in till 6:00 AM. I work a full time job, have a full time business and two wonderful children. I haven't had a day off since October 05. I keep spare clothes, tools, a parka and my guitar in my very used Suburban. When I have the time I'll play a few songs and dream of toy boats on makebelieve seas in the parking lot at Costco. After two and a half years, my coffee house is finally making a little money. It's enough to keep me out of bankruptcy. It will be a long hard struggle back.

I reurn each night to a filthy home and a "wife" who has slept half the day. When she does greet me at the door, it's with her hand out. When I give her every dollar I can spare, she walks away, shaking her head in disgust. She can't be bothered with bills and debt, American Idol is on. The frozen chicken pot pie can give me a thousand calories, ready in 6 minutes. I'll need them all.

ASAP would have been a blessing, but I wasn't so lucky. The three years I've been "married" to her have been devistating. Her visa will expire in three months.
TracyTN
What sort of visa did she emigrate with?
pokernut
I met my fiance online in Sept 2006 and flew to meet her in Oct 2006. She broke up with me about three months later and then a couple months after that told me she made a mistake and wanted me to take her back. My gut feeling said to give it some time, and I did take 4 months after that before I filed the k-1. She was not overly enthusiastic about chatting, but we did chat and did send emails almost daily. She was somewhat reserved in her emails, and I took that as just how she was. It bothered me that she didnt ask or set up the next time to chat and things like that. She would send one email, but not return to send more etc. I had a lot of doubts about her. I sent her money the entire time from when we first met in Sept 2006. It bothered me a little when I was trying to book a plane for her, and she was asking to stay there longer by about 3 weeks. It seemed a little odd to me. There were many little clues that she wasnt as interested in me as she should be for a k-1 visa, but I convinced myself enough to believe that was how she was. She was always busy with family and friends, and I never felt like I was a priority in her life that I should be. I know I had a lot of wishful thinking. Well when she got here, it was clear very soon she was here to get a job and that was her reason for coming, and that she didnt care for me. Sometimes it seemed like maybe she was confused. She was homesick also. She didnt want intimacy with me, but wanted me to pay the way for her to get established here. What irritated me the most, was that she ignored me, and just didnt show anything in the way of affection. She had it right when she broke up with me the first time, but she decided to lie to me to come here. I dont know what she thought it would be like when she got here, but of course this didnt work out. I put her on a plane today after only two weeks, and I went through a wide range of emotions. I could have filed a fraud case on her with the evidence that I had, but I didnt want to deal with the govt. I just put her on a plane back, and she also wanted to return since I wasnt going to pay her way on a "friends" basis. If I were ever to do anything like this again, I would find the time to go and visit more than once, and also spend time with my fiance. I would seriously consider marriage in the foriegn country as well. I have burned up my two k-1s now, and that also irritated me to burn one on a flake job. Im pretty sad and disappointed at the wasted time and resources on this. Im also sad that she has wasted what I think was a wonderful opportunity for her. Im going to spend some time working on myself and things I need to get done, and maybe I will take another shot, but Ive learned that hoping and wishing something to be, are not the same as seeing things as they really are. The sooner you can accept the truth of your situation, the better off you are. In some ways I think when I got her plane ticket, I was making a "crying call", making the last bet since there is so much already in the pot. Im very sad today.
LaL
Continuation of topic merged with newly created thread.
YMR
I am very sorry about what happened to you, but not all women are the same as not all men.


I would recommend you to take some time off and put your feelings and emotions in order. I donīt know your age but try to find somebody over the 30īs because women on that age knows what they want.

women on the 20īs they are not mature enough.

This is just what I think.
little white guy
QUOTE(Len_and_Bren @ Mar 16 2008, 09:32 PM) *
QUOTE(diadromous mermaid @ Mar 16 2008, 06:23 PM) *
QUOTE(Len_and_Bren @ Mar 16 2008, 08:19 PM) *
QUOTE(diadromous mermaid @ Mar 16 2008, 06:13 PM) *

This is ridiculous!
The OP suggested that he didn't have the money right now. He isn't shirking his repsonsibility. Give him some slack, people!

And if it is true that this woman deceived him into a relationship for immigrant benefit alone, she is breaking immigration law. Does she deserve more consideration that the "host" or "victim" she preyed upon?


I'm sorry mermaid my friend, but in my world people are NOT disposable. If the OP thinks they are, well, certainly I'll agree to disagree.
I have no pity for her either but I don't know her side of the story and am not about to take the OP's word for gospel when it's filled with bad vibes and thinking that his former fiance (or now spouse or whatever) is like a broken DVD player. If that's the way he thinks.... well...



I am not passing judgment on the alien or the OP, but I am interested in the visceral responses. What I am interested in is knowing where the threshhold lies? If a DVD player is "broken" we have no issue with returning it to the store. We have come to "expect" it to perform. If someone preys upon another, are they not a "broken" person?


Mermaid, if you're looking for an argument you chose the wrong person. I gave -and sustain- my opinion on the matter; and if you or anyone else does not like it, that is not my problem. I don't have to explain my responses to you or anyone else.
Peace out, L.


Brush it off mermaid. If all you have is one eye ya sure can't see out of the other.
End it with a childess statement such as "peace out" well then thats a whole "nother"
story. Many times people jump, claw, condem and just plan run thier mouth based
on something posted without even trying to be a "human being". They enjoy being
some kinda animal. People DO post things when upset and NO many times you will
not know the real reason why. So off we go in a rush to judge someone over upset
posted words you or me don't realy know the truth about. Would you jump and judge
him or her to thier face over this?. No don't think so. Can you do it on a web page,
heck ya, thats easy. Wonder sometimes if posts people sink thier claws into with so
much passion with no understanding at all maybe see something about
thierself. One eye blind and can't see out the other. You can't wait for the punch line
to be posted as to why they said what they did thats your problem. Yours alone.
Magenta
Get back on track people, please. Thanks.
Habilus
QUOTE(YMR @ Mar 29 2008, 06:51 PM) *
I am very sorry about what happened to you, but not all women are the same as not all men.


I would recommend you to take some time off and put your feelings and emotions in order. I donīt know your age but try to find somebody over the 30īs because women on that age knows what they want.

women on the 20īs they are not mature enough.

This is just what I think.

Age offers little assurance of maturity. My "wife" is 36, but acts like an impetuous teenager.
SJ
She is not a dog! you should purchase ticket for her without calling ICE of whoever you want to call if she refused to leaved then call ICE or whoever handling your case.

You're the one brought her in USA and now you're afraid if they're going to send you bill when they will take her away. did USCIS
lured you to bring alien in your homeland with the promises money back guarantee if don't work out.
Chuckles
Pokernut, I'm saddened by your story. But please, do not "try this again". Before you do anything, get some counseling. It might sound stupid, but it can help. You have work on a few things with yourself, I suspect, before you are ready for a fufilling relationship.

There is nothing wrong with what you did (IMO), it isn't a crime to be lonely or desperate. Apparantly some people in this thread think it is... but your intentions were sincere. Put some of that energy you used back into yourself, and maybe look at some local personals.

I wish you the best of luck.
melusine
I am happy pokernut that you try your best to see the reality of it and seem to accept it even if you go through a hard time. When you think about it, you will probably realise also that this girl was wasting your time and sooner the better. Now that she is gone, do as you said, and make yourself a priority.

Good luck for everything good to come !
David-Mae Forever
QUOTE(Habilus @ Mar 30 2008, 01:52 PM) *
QUOTE(YMR @ Mar 29 2008, 06:51 PM) *
I am very sorry about what happened to you, but not all women are the same as not all men.


I would recommend you to take some time off and put your feelings and emotions in order. I donīt know your age but try to find somebody over the 30īs because women on that age knows what they want.

women on the 20īs they are not mature enough.

This is just what I think.

Age offers little assurance of maturity. My "wife" is 36, but acts like an impetuous teenager.


good.gif

I'm on my late 20's but my husband said I am more matured in so many ways than a 30+ or 40+ woman. It is all about compatibility for a relationship/marriage to be successful.

@pokernut,

Sorry that things didn't work out for you. At this point in time, you really need to let your heart heals up. Don't go looking for love, let love finds you. Sometimes, it could take longer than expected for it to come but you'll find out that the best things in life are the ones that you've patiently waited for.

Good luck!


QUOTE(SJ @ Mar 31 2008, 03:34 PM) *
She is not a dog! you should purchase ticket for her without calling ICE of whoever you want to call if she refused to leaved then call ICE or whoever handling your case.

You're the one brought her in USA and now you're afraid if they're going to send you bill when they will take her away. did USCIS
lured you to bring alien in your homeland with the promises money back guarantee if don't work out.


Chill out, girl... he already sent her home...


--Mae
gtron
why did i return to this thread? such a terrible read. sad.
cindishah
my sad and lonelygori brother found some free cheap and easy chicks on a site called Aff. he having time of his life , said he screw his way back to happiness. soon he is going to get married , and she is from next town over!! she cooks 3 times a week, cleans wo times a week works part time and use to be a pro. he is in heaven ,he says!! we r glad he ishappy . they go to church togher and are soo cute..rehabbed felon and ex prostitue..
cindishah
my sad and lonelygori brother found some free cheap and easy chicks on a site called Aff. he having time of his life , said he screw his way back to happiness. soon he is going to get married , and she is from next town over!! she cooks 3 times a week, cleans wo times a week works part time and use to be a pro. he is in heaven ,he says!! we r glad he ishappy . they go to church togher and are soo cute..rehabbed felon and ex prostitue..
Katie21
hmm it seems like you guys need to sit down and talk the whole issue through- does she even know how you feel and that you found the chat logs? A little talking doesnt hurt anyone and you can make your decision once you know the whole story.
shrewdgal
QUOTE(Jesse G @ Mar 16 2008, 04:15 PM) *
QUOTE(melusine @ Mar 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No offenses either but thoses cases are i think expected when for example you have 25 yrs difference or someone really heavy with a tiny young adult all cute and fancy from poorer countries.

I do not know what is your situation.

I saw some picts on the gallery that sometime..... i wonder about the honnesty of all that.


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what the hell? just because people are different ages or different sizes doesnt mean their marriage is a fraud???
shrewdgal
QUOTE(KimandRuss @ Mar 17 2008, 09:10 AM) *
QUOTE(Corey-Mariya @ Mar 17 2008, 02:57 AM) *
haha I turn 20 tomorrow! Tomorrow is my birthday! Yeah! I am young! There is a saying fool me once shame on you! Fool me twice shame on you! And being older doesnt make you more wise! hey I know I am in love and enjoying every second of it!


Yeah, the saying is actually...'fool me twice...shame on ME'. wink.gif

It's not so much age as it is life experience that make you wiser...and you don't usually have one without the other.

To the OP, I completely understand your frustration with this and my heart goes out to you. It seems your good sense was trying to tell you something yet, it was clouded by what it is you want most and wanted to believe. I can understand that. It happens to all of us. You had warning signs, it's happened before...DONT let it happen again! The only thing you can do now is really learn from your mistakes. To love and be loved is the best gift this life has to offer. There is someone out there for you to share your life with. Someone who wont lie or cheat. Perhaps she's in this country, though. wink.gif

IF all the OP states is true then this 'person' is one of the reasons we are all waiting so long to be with our loved ones. She is all that's wrong with this process and I would be disapointed if she was allowed to stay. Yes, I agree that she is a human being...but not a very nice one.

In regards to those who feel they are somehow empowered to judge the relationships of others.... I don't think it's any of our business to judge who is in love with who and why. Whether someone is too fat, too pretty, too young, too old, too rich..too poor...etc. How is that even our business and what gives any one of us the right to even suggest it's for visa fraud? We don't live their lives...we don't sleep in their bed. We can't even know the most intimate details of the people closest to us so what gives you the right to judge someone else's relationship based on a few lines or pictures in a forum? Of course there are cases of deception...but that can happen in even the most seemingly 'normal' relationships. Who made you judge and jury? We're not here for bigotry...we're here because we need and can offer support to each other based on similar circumstances. Those kinds of unjustified opinions should be kept to yourself because it really only shows your own arrogance and ignorance when you make statements like that.


agreed. I teach elementary school and my students are better educated than that!
przy
QUOTE(shrewdgal @ Apr 24 2008, 03:09 PM) *
QUOTE(KimandRuss @ Mar 17 2008, 09:10 AM) *
QUOTE(Corey-Mariya @ Mar 17 2008, 02:57 AM) *
haha I turn 20 tomorrow! Tomorrow is my birthday! Yeah! I am young! There is a saying fool me once shame on you! Fool me twice shame on you! And being older doesnt make you more wise! hey I know I am in love and enjoying every second of it!


Yeah, the saying is actually...'fool me twice...shame on ME'. wink.gif

It's not so much age as it is life experience that make you wiser...and you don't usually have one without the other.

To the OP, I completely understand your frustration with this and my heart goes out to you. It seems your good sense was trying to tell you something yet, it was clouded by what it is you want most and wanted to believe. I can understand that. It happens to all of us. You had warning signs, it's happened before...DONT let it happen again! The only thing you can do now is really learn from your mistakes. To love and be loved is the best gift this life has to offer. There is someone out there for you to share your life with. Someone who wont lie or cheat. Perhaps she's in this country, though. wink.gif

IF all the OP states is true then this 'person' is one of the reasons we are all waiting so long to be with our loved ones. She is all that's wrong with this process and I would be disapointed if she was allowed to stay. Yes, I agree that she is a human being...but not a very nice one.

In regards to those who feel they are somehow empowered to judge the relationships of others.... I don't think it's any of our business to judge who is in love with who and why. Whether someone is too fat, too pretty, too young, too old, too rich..too poor...etc. How is that even our business and what gives any one of us the right to even suggest it's for visa fraud? We don't live their lives...we don't sleep in their bed. We can't even know the most intimate details of the people closest to us so what gives you the right to judge someone else's relationship based on a few lines or pictures in a forum? Of course there are cases of deception...but that can happen in even the most seemingly 'normal' relationships. Who made you judge and jury? We're not here for bigotry...we're here because we need and can offer support to each other based on similar circumstances. Those kinds of unjustified opinions should be kept to yourself because it really only shows your own arrogance and ignorance when you make statements like that.


agreed. I teach elementary school and my students are better educated than that!


Well put.
gemilina
Sorry but I have no sympathy for this woman whatsoever. She lied, he found out, he is upset and wants her gone. I would too if the same occurred to me. Who wants to be lied to and used and then be told to suck it up just because he was taken advantage of? The whole extent of their marriage is based on a lie...so I don't get where some people here thinks it's ok in any way to let this gal stay in the US and to kick this guy further. She doesn't have any right to be in the US and needs to be sent home. Everything was based on fraud and she knew it. If I posted on a forum that my husband just married me to get my money people would be irrate. They wouldn't say....awwww poor guy, just give him your bank card and leave him be. Not a chance. Just because we are on an immigration forum doesn't mean that everyone in this world who is involved in an immigration situation is legitimate. There will always be sharks in every pond. They also hurt the rest of us as we now have to go through so many hoops to validate our relationships and provide documentation upon documention so the system is ground to a halt and we wait to get approval.

I also agree that a person shouldn't go to a country where poverty or other outstanding issues are the norm thinking they are going to find their soulmate. Often times in places like this, there are people just waiting to find someone who lives in a well established country such as the US to improve THEIR own lives. I know it would be great if you could find someone who is alot younger and better looking, but when you do that, you roll the dice and the odds are truly not in your favour. If this guy has been burned twice now, I hope he lives...learns and moves on. Don't go down that same path is my thoughts.
athena_ny
QUOTE(shrewdgal @ Apr 24 2008, 05:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Jesse G @ Mar 16 2008, 04:15 PM) *
QUOTE(melusine @ Mar 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No offenses either but thoses cases are i think expected when for example you have 25 yrs difference or someone really heavy with a tiny young adult all cute and fancy from poorer countries.

I do not know what is your situation.

I saw some picts on the gallery that sometime..... i wonder about the honnesty of all that.


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what the hell? just because people are different ages or different sizes doesnt mean their marriage is a fraud???


laughing.gif seriously. People are so ignorant.

I guess because my husband is moreno and I'm gringa, and he's from a country much poorer than the US, it's marriage fraud. I guess I should go tell him that! I think he'll be quite surprised.
zqt3344
QUOTE(athena_ny @ Apr 28 2008, 09:49 AM) *
QUOTE(shrewdgal @ Apr 24 2008, 05:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Jesse G @ Mar 16 2008, 04:15 PM) *
QUOTE(melusine @ Mar 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No offenses either but thoses cases are i think expected when for example you have 25 yrs difference or someone really heavy with a tiny young adult all cute and fancy from poorer countries.

I do not know what is your situation.

I saw some picts on the gallery that sometime..... i wonder about the honnesty of all that.


blink.gif



what the hell? just because people are different ages or different sizes doesnt mean their marriage is a fraud???


laughing.gif seriously. People are so ignorant.

I guess because my husband is moreno and I'm gringa, and he's from a country much poorer than the US, it's marriage fraud. I guess I should go tell him that! I think he'll be quite surprised.


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