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*julez*
QUOTE(jiskat08 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:06 AM) *
QUOTE(Jene @ Apr 10 2008, 05:55 AM) *
I don't think I would call that person responsible, more so...uh, stupid or naive.

People who pay child support, should know and have the common sense that they need to arrange the courts to receive the monies for the child, rather than 'trust' the ex. Then again COMMON SENSE isn't that common anymore. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(simple_male @ Mar 22 2008, 12:41 AM) *
It is really sad when the system punishes a responsible dad who always paid the ex by check. Surely, it is painful for children who are caught between this. System should punish those who are really behind paying child support.



You mean MONEY not MONIES wow.gif


wow.gif You do realize that MONEY does have a plural form and it is MONIES:


monies Usage Examples
Converse of object
  • owe: Should payment not be forthcoming then NUS would move to recover monies owed.
  • refund: Note for students: NEWI is unable to refund any monies charged to a student 's print account.
  • disburse: Trusts which enjoy tax-exempt status must conform strictly to their remit and cannot disburse any surplus monies except to fulfill their stated objectives.
  • recover: Should payment not be forthcoming then NUS would move to recover monies owed.
  • earmark: Sergeant Terras is helping with fundraising and assisting in making a case for the monies previously earmarked for the Galashiels facility.
  • repay: We also have the right to terminate the contract and repay any monies paid by you in accordance with the preceding sentence.
respect: The monies secured by the lien are limited to monies in respect of the goods held only.

Adjective modifier
  • outstanding: Any outstanding monies should be sent into the office by Monday 16 th January please.
  • remaining: Any remaining monies will be refunded to the credit card used at the time of purchase.
  • additional: The agent concerned filed additional monies on 20 April which were credited to his account on 25 April 2000.
  • sufficient: Evidence that the candidate would have sufficient monies to meet tutorial fees and subsistence costs while studying at the University.
  • such: You will receive an official receipt for such monies or valuables.
  • substantial: Acting against a clearing bank in relation to the recovery of substantial monies fraudulently obtained by a former employe and accomplices.
Modifies a noun

worth: You certainly are getting your monies worth from your subscription at Star Archive!

Noun used with modifier
  • surplus: Put this and any surplus monies into an instant access Cash ISA ( subject to contribution limits ).
  • sponsorship: All sponsorship monies from this year 's races are going to community projects in DR. Congo.
  • retention: The clients representative will sign the building off, thus releasing final retention monies.
  • grant: The work I do is in my home office with a computer, bought without grant monies.
  • deposit: No interest is paid to either the Landlord or Tenant on deposit monies held.
  • subscription: The subscription monies will be used for the general development and expansion of the company and its services.
DanielParul
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Apr 10 2008, 12:48 PM) *
QUOTE(jiskat08 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:06 AM) *
QUOTE(Jene @ Apr 10 2008, 05:55 AM) *
I don't think I would call that person responsible, more so...uh, stupid or naive.

People who pay child support, should know and have the common sense that they need to arrange the courts to receive the monies for the child, rather than 'trust' the ex. Then again COMMON SENSE isn't that common anymore. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(simple_male @ Mar 22 2008, 12:41 AM) *
It is really sad when the system punishes a responsible dad who always paid the ex by check. Surely, it is painful for children who are caught between this. System should punish those who are really behind paying child support.



You mean MONEY not MONIES wow.gif


wow.gif You do realize that MONEY does have a plural form and it is MONIES:


monies Usage Examples
Converse of object
  • owe: Should payment not be forthcoming then NUS would move to recover monies owed.
  • refund: Note for students: NEWI is unable to refund any monies charged to a student 's print account.
  • disburse: Trusts which enjoy tax-exempt status must conform strictly to their remit and cannot disburse any surplus monies except to fulfill their stated objectives.
  • recover: Should payment not be forthcoming then NUS would move to recover monies owed.
  • earmark: Sergeant Terras is helping with fundraising and assisting in making a case for the monies previously earmarked for the Galashiels facility.
  • repay: We also have the right to terminate the contract and repay any monies paid by you in accordance with the preceding sentence.
respect: The monies secured by the lien are limited to monies in respect of the goods held only.

Adjective modifier
  • outstanding: Any outstanding monies should be sent into the office by Monday 16 th January please.
  • remaining: Any remaining monies will be refunded to the credit card used at the time of purchase.
  • additional: The agent concerned filed additional monies on 20 April which were credited to his account on 25 April 2000.
  • sufficient: Evidence that the candidate would have sufficient monies to meet tutorial fees and subsistence costs while studying at the University.
  • such: You will receive an official receipt for such monies or valuables.
  • substantial: Acting against a clearing bank in relation to the recovery of substantial monies fraudulently obtained by a former employe and accomplices.
Modifies a noun

worth: You certainly are getting your monies worth from your subscription at Star Archive!

Noun used with modifier
  • surplus: Put this and any surplus monies into an instant access Cash ISA ( subject to contribution limits ).
  • sponsorship: All sponsorship monies from this year 's races are going to community projects in DR. Congo.
  • retention: The clients representative will sign the building off, thus releasing final retention monies.
  • grant: The work I do is in my home office with a computer, bought without grant monies.
  • deposit: No interest is paid to either the Landlord or Tenant on deposit monies held.
  • subscription: The subscription monies will be used for the general development and expansion of the company and its services.


Snicker!!! No, wait... actually...... rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif
jiskat08
QUOTE(Jene @ Apr 10 2008, 05:55 AM) *
I don't think I would call that person responsible, more so...uh, stupid or naive.

People who pay child support, should know and have the common sense that they need to arrange the courts to receive the monies for the child, rather than 'trust' the ex. Then again COMMON SENSE isn't that common anymore. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(simple_male @ Mar 22 2008, 12:41 AM) *
It is really sad when the system punishes a responsible dad who always paid the ex by check. Surely, it is painful for children who are caught between this. System should punish those who are really behind paying child support.




Despite the complaints of harsh judgment being passed in this thread, no one reported it to the moderation team.

That said, the OP had a question about an I-130 submission and a (child support related) passport issue.

A few folks provided useful answers, while others chose to criticize and pass judgment on the OP's spouse.

Criticism and personal attacks are completely opposite of the spirit and intent of Visa Journey and violate TOS. Members of VJ need help with immigration issues, not a judge and jury.

Stay on topic.

IF YOU CAN'T HELP, BETTER NOT to GIVE ANY JUDGMENT OR CRITIC...
WE ARE HERE IN VJ TO HELP EACH OTHER ..
SusieK
QUOTE(SHAPE OF MY HEART @ Mar 22 2008, 12:14 AM) *
Hello,
I have read your story and yes, i believe with your opinion here..
Its just sometimes or most of the time people are easily judge others without knowing what's the real story behind these people. And that's a pity for those..
Anyway, I hope the OP will read this response, since i think she started unsubscribing herself from this thread , because of this easily thrown up criticism..

Good luck everyone.

The wife.

QUOTE(az110965 @ Mar 22 2008, 11:52 AM) *
Hello All -
I'm new to this site but wanted to throw in my .02 on this subject as I'm VERY, VERY familar with it...

I've been divorced for almopst 3 years now and my divorce decree stated I was to pay $857 per month in child support. I faithfully paid my ogbligation every month (paid with personal checks and noted "child support" in the memo area. Well - in October of 2007 (over 2 1/2 years after my divorce, my employer receives a notice from the Child Support Enforment Agency stating that effective my next pay date my employer was to withdraw the funds from my payroll check and forward them to the CSEA. I didn't have any problem with this as I had been paying ever since the date of my divorce anyway. Well - to make a long story short, I receive a letter in November from CSEA stating that I was $25,500 in arrears for non payment of child support. I immediately got on the phone and began leaving messages for the person who was the "case officer". I left no less than 25 voice mails and never once received a response. My deduction went from $857 per month to $1045 to pay the "arrears" that I owed. I went to the Child Support with EVERY cancelled check and finally met with the case officer after sitting there for 7 hours. I was told that under Ohio law that payments made directly to the parent counted as "gifts" and would not be applied to MY responsibilities. Even after producing 29 cancelled checks that clearly stated "child support" in the memo column, I was told that the only way that the arrearage would be taken off was if my ex wife agreed to go with me to the courthouse and agreed to have a journal entry made that the funds I had given her all this time were in fact child support. My ex and I do not have a cordial relationship but I asked her anyway. She laughed at me and told me that there was no way that she would do anything to help me. (BTW - I now actually have CUSTODY of my son but that also has no bearing on what the CSEA states I'm in arrearage on).
To add insult to injury, I went to renew my passport to take my trip to see Tatiana in Moldova (even paid extra to the State Dept to expedite my renewel). I recieved a notification that I had been placed on the passport denial list because I had arrearages in excess of $2500.
Again I went back on the phone and was told that all I needed to do was speak to the case officer and she had the authority to remove my name from this list and that since I was already paying the "arrearages" it wouldn't cost me anything to get my passport back.
The case officer basically told me that she was sorry for my luck and that if I wanted my passport all I needed to do was to write a check (actually bring a Cashiers check) for $25k. We went into a negotiation and I advised her that I didn't have 25k lying around and she wound up settling for $1,500 to release my name from the passport denial list.
I guess the point of my post is that sometimes the dad isn't the deadbeat and even when he does the right thing he can end up on the losing end. Anyone who says that the child support system isn't biased towards the mother is sadly mistaken. I'm niot defecding the guy who's now the subject of 50 some odd posts, all I'm trying to say is that there were a lot of people who expressed opinions who knew absolutely nothing about how the system works. I wish this guy good luck and advise him to try and reach a compromise with his child support case officer. He may in fact be able to get his passport released fairly easily with an acceptable payment arrangement. Who knows - maybe he isn't the peice of trash that some people made him out to be.
Alan



Alan,

If your divorce decree or child support arrangements showed that payment was from your account to hers and not thru child services, then those equal the amount that she was to be paid - then you have been mislead.

Having dealt with this in a professional manner, you need to go and file a motion to be heard on this issue - the case worker for the child enforcement (yes they are paid to try and collect monies owed fyi) is incorrect. If your case had been done correctly and money taken from your check as it is a good record of payment, this would not be the case.

However, you have submitted checks to the mother in the correct amount and those legally binding to the effect of what is owed. by any chance did u put down support for such and such month?

As far as the original post, to have passport siezed is not a small issue, this takes years and after all other attempts have been made to collect including garnishment and court orders to sieze income tax returns.
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