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Tash
Hello,

Does anyone know if it will be an issue if only one parent (the Mother) name is only on the beneficary's birth certificate? I have a copy of my husband's original birth certificate and it only has his mother name. Has anyone completed this section with only 1 name and had no issues? Per the guideline it states both parents name should be on it.
Hotlegz
Hey tash

He needs to get a cert with both parents name on it...does he know where his father is ? if so he can go and add his name at the RGD
coolgt
that is a good qestion,

"what if the mother have her child when she 18-20 never married.
when she got her child birth cert it only state the mother name not father."


so my best guess is check your embassy
Hotlegz
QUOTE(coolgt @ Mar 15 2008, 11:26 PM) *
that is a good qestion,

"what if the mother have her child when she 18-20 never married.
when she got her child birth cert it only state the mother name not father."


so my best guess is check your embassy



they require it in JA..even more a marriage...u don't have to be married to add the fathers particulars as long as he shows ID or whatever proof they require
Tash
QUOTE(kimmykashi @ Mar 15 2008, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE(coolgt @ Mar 15 2008, 11:26 PM) *
that is a good qestion,

"what if the mother have her child when she 18-20 never married.
when she got her child birth cert it only state the mother name not father."


so my best guess is check your embassy



they require it in JA..even more a marriage...u don't have to be married to add the fathers particulars as long as he shows ID or whatever proof they require


Ok then thanks, I guess hubby will be busy next week. I really hope there will be no problems or too much of a delay. His father is there with the family. Not certain as to why he wasn't listed at the time. So he said he will look about it Monday. Thanks again.
indianheart
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 15 2008, 09:00 PM) *
QUOTE(kimmykashi @ Mar 15 2008, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE(coolgt @ Mar 15 2008, 11:26 PM) *
that is a good qestion,

"what if the mother have her child when she 18-20 never married.
when she got her child birth cert it only state the mother name not father."


so my best guess is check your embassy



they require it in JA..even more a marriage...u don't have to be married to add the fathers particulars as long as he shows ID or whatever proof they require


Ok then thanks, I guess hubby will be busy next week. I really hope there will be no problems or too much of a delay. His father is there with the family. Not certain as to why he wasn't listed at the time. So he said he will look about it Monday. Thanks again.


I would call nvc and ask...some times there is no way to get in touch with father if even known(we always know who our mother is)
Hotlegz
QUOTE(indianheart @ Mar 16 2008, 11:34 AM) *
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 15 2008, 09:00 PM) *
QUOTE(kimmykashi @ Mar 15 2008, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE(coolgt @ Mar 15 2008, 11:26 PM) *
that is a good qestion,

"what if the mother have her child when she 18-20 never married.
when she got her child birth cert it only state the mother name not father."


so my best guess is check your embassy



they require it in JA..even more a marriage...u don't have to be married to add the fathers particulars as long as he shows ID or whatever proof they require


Ok then thanks, I guess hubby will be busy next week. I really hope there will be no problems or too much of a delay. His father is there with the family. Not certain as to why he wasn't listed at the time. So he said he will look about it Monday. Thanks again.


I would call nvc and ask...some times there is no way to get in touch with father if even known(we always know who our mother is)



then in that case you would have to get some kind of letter stating that from the RGD
Jigi
hi,

Need both the parents name.

Jigi
Chris Parker
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 15 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Does anyone know if it will be an issue if only one parent (the Mother) name is only on the beneficary's birth certificate? I have a copy of my husband's original birth certificate and it only has his mother name. Has anyone completed this section with only 1 name and had no issues? Per the guideline it states both parents name should be on it.

I'm not quite sure who the beneficiary is here and why the father's name is relevant to your case, so it is hard to answer your question exactly.

In general, a birth certificate that has been amended more than 1 year after child's birth is going to be considered a "delayed" birth certificate and is going to be considered invalid for immigration purposes. If the father is known (sometimes they aren't!) and their identity is relevant to your case, amending the birth certificate like others are suggesting is only going raise all sorts of suspect flags about the legitimacy of the birth record itself. Instead, the embassy want to see the original birth certificate and any evidence you have of who the father actually is, the same evidence that you'd supposedly have to submit to get the birth record legitimately amended anyway.

My advice - leave the birth certificate alone. Submit proof of paternity as separate, additional evidence.
Tash
QUOTE(Chris Parker @ Mar 18 2008, 04:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 15 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Does anyone know if it will be an issue if only one parent (the Mother) name is only on the beneficary's birth certificate? I have a copy of my husband's original birth certificate and it only has his mother name. Has anyone completed this section with only 1 name and had no issues? Per the guideline it states both parents name should be on it.

I'm not quite sure who the beneficiary is here and why the father's name is relevant to your case, so it is hard to answer your question exactly.

In general, a birth certificate that has been amended more than 1 year after child's birth is going to be considered a "delayed" birth certificate and is going to be considered invalid for immigration purposes. If the father is known (sometimes they aren't!) and their identity is relevant to your case, amending the birth certificate like others are suggesting is only going raise all sorts of suspect flags about the legitimacy of the birth record itself. Instead, the embassy want to see the original birth certificate and any evidence you have of who the father actually is, the same evidence that you'd supposedly have to submit to get the birth record legitimately amended anyway.

My advice - leave the birth certificate alone. Submit proof of paternity as separate, additional evidence.


Hi Chris, I am the wife (the petitioner) - sponsering my Husband, (the beneficary). I have already emailed NVC. I'm going to call them today. But my Husband is still doing the necesssary steps in getting his Father name added. Today he went to the Jamaica Registar's Office to conduct an interview and brought along his Mother's marriage certificate. He now has to have both his mother/father sign a form. I asked the question because it didn't clarifity on the guide if it was in the case when a parent was filing for a child or spouse filing for a spouse. But I will post back when I get an answer from NVC.

Thanks
Chris Parker
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 18 2008, 05:11 PM) *
Hi Chris, I am the wife (the petitioner) - sponsering my Husband, (the beneficary). I have already emailed NVC. I'm going to call them today. But my Husband is still doing the necesssary steps in getting his Father name added. Today he went to the Jamaica Registar's Office to conduct an interview and brought along his Mother's marriage certificate. He now has to have both his mother/father sign a form. I asked the question because it didn't clarifity on the guide if it was in the case when a parent was filing for a child or spouse filing for a spouse. But I will post back when I get an answer from NVC.

In my opinion, his father's name is irrelevant to the case and the birth certificate should be left alone. However, they probably won't care much about his birth certificate being delayed because his basis of eligibility is by marriage, not by birth.

Here is what can happen trying to fix-up a birth certificate for immigration authorities (case is from Jamaica too!):

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?v...hash=0-0-0-3653

---they sure don't like doing to a birth certificate what you are doing when an matter of eligibility is at issue!
Tash
QUOTE(Chris Parker @ Mar 18 2008, 05:26 PM) *
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 18 2008, 05:11 PM) *
Hi Chris, I am the wife (the petitioner) - sponsering my Husband, (the beneficary). I have already emailed NVC. I'm going to call them today. But my Husband is still doing the necesssary steps in getting his Father name added. Today he went to the Jamaica Registar's Office to conduct an interview and brought along his Mother's marriage certificate. He now has to have both his mother/father sign a form. I asked the question because it didn't clarifity on the guide if it was in the case when a parent was filing for a child or spouse filing for a spouse. But I will post back when I get an answer from NVC.

In my opinion, his father's name is irrelevant to the case and the birth certificate should be left alone. However, they probably won't care much about his birth certificate being delayed because his basis of eligibility is by marriage, not by birth.

Here is what can happen trying to fix-up a birth certificate for immigration authorities (case is from Jamaica too!):

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/template.htm?v...hash=0-0-0-3653

---they sure don't like doing to a birth certificate what you are doing when an matter of eligibility is at issue!


Ok thanks. I ended up calling NVC, and I spoke with 2 different operators in which they both told me I did not need to have my husband's birth certificate amended showing his fater name. Just as long as it's from the Registar's office and it's the original. They say it's understandable that the fathter may not be listed. I asked them both were they positive. And they say yes, so with that said I'm going to submit the one I have. I just hope all goes well.
Chris Parker
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 18 2008, 09:38 PM) *
Ok thanks. I ended up calling NVC, and I spoke with 2 different operators in which they both told me I did not need to have my husband's birth certificate amended showing his fater name. Just as long as it's from the Registar's office and it's the original. They say it's understandable that the fathter may not be listed. I asked them both were they positive. And they say yes, so with that said I'm going to submit the one I have. I just hope all goes well.

According to the case I linked, there is only one valid reason (as far as U.S. immigration is concerned) why someone born in Jamaica would want to amend their birth certificate to add the name of the father:

Jamaican Status of Children Act of 1976 - A child shall be considered legitimated under this Jamaican law when he/she is acknowledged by his/her father before age 18 by the father amending the child's birth certificate to add his name as father. Subsequent marriage to the mother is actually not necessary under this Jamaican law for the child to be considered legitimated (according to the case when it was decided in 1999), and such foreign statutory legitimation will be also recognized for U.S. immigration purposes---quite surprising!

However, beyond legitimation reasons - an amendment to the birth certificate to add the father will not be sufficient to prove parentage and will need to be accompanied by sufficient secondary evidence for the father to be recognized as such for U.S. immigration purposes (which is what I suspected).
Tash
QUOTE(Chris Parker @ Mar 19 2008, 12:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Tash @ Mar 18 2008, 09:38 PM) *
Ok thanks. I ended up calling NVC, and I spoke with 2 different operators in which they both told me I did not need to have my husband's birth certificate amended showing his fater name. Just as long as it's from the Registar's office and it's the original. They say it's understandable that the fathter may not be listed. I asked them both were they positive. And they say yes, so with that said I'm going to submit the one I have. I just hope all goes well.

According to the case I linked, there is only one valid reason (as far as U.S. immigration is concerned) why someone born in Jamaica would want to amend their birth certificate to add the name of the father:

Jamaican Status of Children Act of 1976 - A child shall be considered legitimated under this Jamaican law when he/she is acknowledged by his/her father before age 18 by the father amending the child's birth certificate to add his name as father. Subsequent marriage to the mother is actually not necessary under this Jamaican law for the child to be considered legitimated (according to the case when it was decided in 1999), and such foreign statutory legitimation will be also recognized for U.S. immigration purposes---quite surprising!

However, beyond legitimation reasons - an amendment to the birth certificate to add the father will not be sufficient to prove parentage and will need to be accompanied by sufficient secondary evidence for the father to be recognized as such for U.S. immigration purposes (which is what I suspected).


Thanks.
Marlita
There are many people who have asked this question on the Caribbean forum for Jamaican passports. Seems it is quite typical that fathers name is not on BC. Most all of them never had a problem. I think Kimmy needed fathers name but that may have been a different case. I would think its quite hard to get fathers name "legally" on a BC because the father would have to be present to amend it otherwise you can say any many is the father.

My husbands father is not listed either. He doesnt know who his father is and can never get his BC ammended.
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