vuhtran
Mar 13 2008, 01:22 PM
Hi VJers! I have a question for the people here. My Russian fiance said that she has to pay off her debts before they will allow her out of the country because it is a new law that went into affect this year. While this is somewhat true for debts that have gone to the courts for litigation, is this true for all debts or only certain type of debts? Does it depend on the amount of debt that is due?
Any insight would be appreciated!
YuAndDan
Mar 13 2008, 01:32 PM
May also want to post this to the Russia sub forum, many Russia members just lurk there.
My wife is from China, she had a few debts such as past health insurance, I helped her pay it off before she left China, it was mostly an honor thing, we did not want her Mum to get possibly stuck with the bill.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=98
Gaby&Talbert
Mar 13 2008, 01:41 PM
How can this be enforced? Does the consulate run a credit check on everyone before they can be approved?
YuAndDan
Mar 13 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE(Gaby&Talbert @ Mar 13 2008, 02:41 PM)

How can this be enforced? Does the consulate run a credit check on everyone before they can be approved?
The consulate does not, however, the country might not allow the person through the checkpoint to leave the country.
vuhtran
Mar 13 2008, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(Gaby&Talbert @ Mar 13 2008, 01:41 PM)

How can this be enforced? Does the consulate run a credit check on everyone before they can be approved?
That is correct. Before they let you leave Russia, they scan your passport to see if anything, like debt that is in litigation, exists. If it does, they will not let you leave. My friend had this done to his wife. He had to pay the $500 to the court to settle a lawsuit she was in.
Kazan' Tiger
Mar 13 2008, 02:32 PM
I heard about this a few months ago. The last discussion I had with someone over there resulted in this: Does all debt have to be paid off in full prior to departure? "No, only if there is a court order or it is in current litigation." So, if a Russian citizen has an outstanding balance on a loan or credit card and is in compliance with the payment schedule they can freely leave the country? "Yes".
Dan + Gemvita
Mar 13 2008, 02:37 PM
The US has something similar as reguards to child support. If you have outstanding child support, you cannot get or renew a passport.
Other countries cannot interfere with the visa, but they can impose requirements on a citizen leaving the country. Philippines requires CENOMAR, Indonesia requires a 1 million IDR tax upon leaving (about $100).
Kazan' Tiger
Mar 13 2008, 03:33 PM
The outstanding balance must be in excessive of $2500 and the local agency has reported same to the DOS.
QUOTE(Dan + Gemvita @ Mar 13 2008, 03:37 PM)

The US has something similar as reguards to child support. If you have outstanding child support, you cannot get or renew a passport.
Other countries cannot interfere with the visa, but they can impose requirements on a citizen leaving the country. Philippines requires CENOMAR, Indonesia requires a 1 million IDR tax upon leaving (about $100).
manwithabeard
Mar 13 2008, 04:09 PM
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Mar 13 2008, 02:32 PM)

May also want to post this to the Russia sub forum, many Russia members just lurk there.
My wife is from China, she had a few debts such as past health insurance, I helped her pay it off before she left China, it was mostly an honor thing, we did not want her Mum to get possibly stuck with the bill.
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=98This is the Russia sub forum.
mox
Mar 13 2008, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(seanconneryii @ Mar 13 2008, 02:09 PM)

This is the Russia sub forum.
The post didn't originally start here. It was moved here.
Jason-Sasha
Mar 13 2008, 05:31 PM
I also heard in the news that it was a new law but i doubt it will actually work in the next couple of years. They claim that when you are in an airport ready to leave russia and when you have an unpaid credit or smth like that they wouldn't let you leave but i really doubt that would happen. At least i never heard of people stopped in the airport because they owe money to some bank or government.
Personally, I took a loan from a bank just once and i paid it back. Don't really want my parents to deal with it when i leave the country.
Sasha
Satellite
Mar 14 2008, 09:20 AM
QUOTE(Dan + Gemvita @ Mar 13 2008, 12:37 PM)

The US has something similar as regards to child support. If you have outstanding child support, you cannot get or renew a passport.
I am pretty sure you can circumvent this if you are a dual citizen and traveling on your "other" passport. But its more like one way travel, if you can't renew abroad without paying up first.
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