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mox

Mar 7 2008, 12:29 PM

I know this question has been asked before, and I know the prevailing answer for my situation is "you don't need a bank statement if your income exceeds 125% of the poverty guidelines." However, I have not yet seen an answer that satisfies me completely, due to the wording of the I-134 instructions. I've pasted the relevant portion of the instructions below:

II. Supporting Evidence

As the sponsor, you must show you have sufficient income and/or financial resources to assure that the alien you are sponsoring will not become a public charge while in the United States. Evidence should consist of copies of any or all of the following documentation listed below that are applicable to your situation. Failure to provide evidence of sufficient income and/or financial resources may result in the denial of the alien's application for a visa or his or her removal from the United States. The sponsor must submit in duplicate evidence of income and resources, as appropriate:

A. Statement from an officer of the bank or other financial institutions where you have deposits, identifying the following details regarding your account:
1. Date account opened;
2. Total amount deposited for the past year;
3. Present balance.

B. Statement of your employer on business stationery, revealing:
1. Date and nature of employment;
2. Salary paid;
3. Whether the position is temporary or permanent.

...

I've underlined 2 relevant portions of my concern. The first underline seems to be straightforward. Basically look at the list below and pick the evidence that meets your situation. Based on that, it seems as if I can get away with an employer letter (and pay stubs, although that is curiously not in the instructions).

It's the second underline I'm having a problem understanding. What does it mean that I need to submit "in duplicate?" Does that mean 2 copies of the employer letter, or that I need to supply 2 different methods of verifying my income? Since item C (not quoted above) is for self-employed people and doesn't apply to me, and item D (also not quoted) doesn't apply either, then if they're saying I need to provide 2 different methods of verifying my income, I really only have the Bank Officer letter as a second option.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? I do appreciate responses like "I didn't send a bank statement and we were approved," but I guess what I'm really looking for is some justification.

And the reason I'm asking is because I went to my bank the other day to get a letter, and even though I had a sample letter with me, they all looked at me like a deer in the headlights and finally decided the guy who had the authority to do that was out for the day. I'd like to avoid that again if I can justify in my own mind that it's not necessary.

jsouthwick

Mar 7 2008, 12:43 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 01:29 PM)

I know this question has been asked before, and I know the prevailing answer for my situation is "you don't need a bank statement if your income exceeds 125% of the poverty guidelines." However, I have not yet seen an answer that satisfies me completely, due to the wording of the I-134 instructions. I've pasted the relevant portion of the instructions below:

II. Supporting Evidence

As the sponsor, you must show you have sufficient income and/or financial resources to assure that the alien you are sponsoring will not become a public charge while in the United States. Evidence should consist of copies of any or all of the following documentation listed below that are applicable to your situation. Failure to provide evidence of sufficient income and/or financial resources may result in the denial of the alien's application for a visa or his or her removal from the United States. The sponsor must submit in duplicate evidence of income and resources, as appropriate:

A. Statement from an officer of the bank or other financial institutions where you have deposits, identifying the following details regarding your account:
1. Date account opened;
2. Total amount deposited for the past year;
3. Present balance.

B. Statement of your employer on business stationery, revealing:
1. Date and nature of employment;
2. Salary paid;
3. Whether the position is temporary or permanent.

...

I've underlined 2 relevant portions of my concern. The first underline seems to be straightforward. Basically look at the list below and pick the evidence that meets your situation. Based on that, it seems as if I can get away with an employer letter (and pay stubs, although that is curiously not in the instructions).

It's the second underline I'm having a problem understanding. What does it mean that I need to submit "in duplicate?" Does that mean 2 copies of the employer letter, or that I need to supply 2 different methods of verifying my income? Since item C (not quoted above) is for self-employed people and doesn't apply to me, and item D (also not quoted) doesn't apply either, then if they're saying I need to provide 2 different methods of verifying my income, I really only have the Bank Officer letter as a second option.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? I do appreciate responses like "I didn't send a bank statement and we were approved," but I guess what I'm really looking for is some justification.

And the reason I'm asking is because I went to my bank the other day to get a letter, and even though I had a sample letter with me, they all looked at me like a deer in the headlights and finally decided the guy who had the authority to do that was out for the day. I'd like to avoid that again if I can justify in my own mind that it's not necessary.

I did both, made copies of both and submitted. Better to give them too much than too little.

YuAndDan

Mar 7 2008, 12:45 PM

Similar question asked earlier.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...=114577&hl=

For K-Visas the I-134 is used.

If income is above 125% then listing assets is NOT required.

One thing about I-134, the directions included with I-134 are very old, USCIS has no reason to update them since USCIS has no application for that form.

The consulates tend to treat the I-134 like a mini-I-864 as so prefer the same financial evidence as the I-864.

In our case this what the I-134 included.

I-134 signed and notarized.
SIMPLE Tax transcripts from the IRS for past 3 years, (Redundant for the (1040,W2,1099) but are free from the IRS http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq1-6.html
Photo copy of IRS form 1040, and W2s for past 3 years (Not necessary if you provide the transcripts)
Letter from my employer stating annual salary, job responsibility, and that is full time, on company letterhead.
Photo copies of past month or so of pay stubs up to a few weeks before the interview.

My income was well above the povertyline so I did not include any asset data (LIKE BANK STATEMENTS or property values).

If your income exceeds 125% or (100% for military) of the povertyline when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME.

YuAndDan

Mar 7 2008, 01:07 PM

Most consulates spell out what they want included with the I-134 in the Packet 3 letter.

QUOTE

Financial documents from the petitioner – a US citizen: please note, that Affidavit of Support (form I-134) is not required, but may be requested. The document must be notarized. Please submit financial documents to show that the applicant will not become a public charge in the United States. Such documents may include, but are not limited to:

Most recent year tax returns (form 1040) or tax transcripts from IRS
Copy of bank account (Again good if you need to use it as an asset)
Earnings and leave statement (For may this is listed on pay stubs)
W-2 forms (Part of the Return above)
Letter from employer

http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consu...cord_id=fiancee

mox

Mar 7 2008, 01:11 PM

QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Mar 7 2008, 09:45 AM)

If income is above 125% then listing assets is NOT required.

This seems to be the common wisdom, but the instructions are unclear and I've yet to find a definitive source.

QUOTE

One thing about I-134, the directions included with I-134 are very old, USCIS has no reason to update them since USCIS has no application for that form.

The consulates tend to treat the I-134 like a mini-I-864 as so prefer the same financial evidence as the I-864.

I've seen you post this answer before (I really need to template some of my answers too

), do you have a source for the I-134/I-864 treatment? Not trying to challenge you on this, I'd just like to know for my own edification and peace of mind. Seems to me like USCIS need to update their damn forms if for any other reason than the confusing instructions.

mox

Mar 7 2008, 01:13 PM

QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:07 AM)

Most consulates spell out what they want included with the I-134 in the Packet 3 letter.

QUOTE

Financial documents from the petitioner â€“ a US citizen: please note, that Affidavit of Support (form I-134) is not required, but may be requested. The document must be notarized. Please submit financial documents to show that the applicant will not become a public charge in the United States. Such documents may include, but are not limited to:

Most recent year tax returns (form 1040) or tax transcripts from IRS
Copy of bank account (Again good if you need to use it as an asset)
Earnings and leave statement (For may this is listed on pay stubs)
W-2 forms (Part of the Return above)
Letter from employer

http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consu...cord_id=fiancee

And yeah, I actually meant to quote the consulate's list on my initial post, but forgot to. These instructions are also somewhat vague. In fact, they seem to strengthen the case that at least in the case of Moscow you should be providing a bank statement. (Again, I know lots have done without it and been approved. I guess I'm just anal for definitive answers. I know, I know...how on earth did I get this far?

)

YuAndDan

Mar 7 2008, 01:15 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 01:11 PM)

QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Mar 7 2008, 09:45 AM)

If income is above 125% then listing assets is NOT required.

This seems to be the common wisdom, but the instructions are unclear and I've yet to find a definitive source.

QUOTE

One thing about I-134, the directions included with I-134 are very old, USCIS has no reason to update them since USCIS has no application for that form.

The consulates tend to treat the I-134 like a mini-I-864 as so prefer the same financial evidence as the I-864.

I've seen you post this answer before (I really need to template some of my answers too

), do you have a source for the I-134/I-864 treatment? Not trying to challenge you on this, I'd just like to know for my own edification and peace of mind. Seems to me like USCIS need to update their damn forms if for any other reason than the confusing instructions.

Look at my additional post: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1642504

Instructions specifically from Moscow. I can point you to many other consulate websites directions. Again they expect the same evidence as the I-864 because the K-Visa holder will later need to use I-864 when adjusting status.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 7 2008, 01:29 PM

I have an additional question... What if one does keep any monumental sum in a bank? I don't keep any more than $200 in a bank ever. Therefore, I was not planning on submitting this as the list states (note keyword "may"):

Such documents may include, but are not limited to:

Most recent year tax returns (form 1040) or tax transcripts from IRS
Copy of bank account (Again good if you need to use it as an asset)
Earnings and leave statement (For may this is listed on pay stubs)
W-2 forms (Part of the Return above)
Letter from employer

As I am not using assets, I'll submit everything else, but a bank statement showing a balance of $100 seems silly!

mox

Mar 7 2008, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 AM)

As I am not using assets, I'll submit everything else, but a bank statement showing a balance of $100 seems silly!

The instructions on the I-134 want total deposits over the last 12 months too, not just a current balance. So it does make sense to me from the perspective of verifying that you really are employed and depositing an income into your bank account. Of course there are a lot of people who don't deposit their checks, but if you do then I can see this as a valid way of proving (or at least strongly implying) you really do have a job that meets the poverty guidelines.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 7 2008, 01:41 PM

I can show paycheck stubs, but I am one that does not put paychecks in the bank. Total deposits for a year in my bank account would not even add up to even one month's worth of paychecks. It would not support anything.

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 01:33 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 AM)

As I am not using assets, I'll submit everything else, but a bank statement showing a balance of $100 seems silly!

The instructions on the I-134 want total deposits over the last 12 months too, not just a current balance. So it does make sense to me from the perspective of verifying that you really are employed and depositing an income into your bank account. Of course there are a lot of people who don't deposit their checks, but if you do then I can see this as a valid way of proving (or at least strongly implying) you really do have a job that meets the poverty guidelines.

shikarnov

Mar 7 2008, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 01:33 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 AM)

As I am not using assets, I'll submit everything else, but a bank statement showing a balance of $100 seems silly!

The instructions on the I-134 want total deposits over the last 12 months too, not just a current balance. So it does make sense to me from the perspective of verifying that you really are employed and depositing an income into your bank account. Of course there are a lot of people who don't deposit their checks, but if you do then I can see this as a valid way of proving (or at least strongly implying) you really do have a job that meets the poverty guidelines.

Personally I think it's ridiculous that we have to prove anything. We're citizens of this country, and the assumption should be that we're telling the truth unless the government has reason to suspect differently, and subsequently has evidence to prove otherwise. This entire process is very dictatorial in nature.

My bank (Wachovia) couldn't provide me with a simple report saying that my total deposits were for the past year. Apparently only the past few months are kept on their computers. They said I could turn over all my paper bank statements to the government and let them sift through those documents to compile a total. Can you imagine? I made them write a letter stating the fact that their computer system doesn't provide that information readily. I did get the average balance over the past year though, the date the account opened, and the current balance. That'll have to be sufficient for Big Brother, because they're not getting their grubby paws on my line item bank statements without a warrant.

I'm starting to understand the Libertarian viewpoint that government is bad. This entire process has been utterly ridiculous, and unnecessarily complex, invasive, and difficult.

Z

YuAndDan

Mar 7 2008, 01:46 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 01:33 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 AM)

As I am not using assets, I'll submit everything else, but a bank statement showing a balance of $100 seems silly!

The instructions on the I-134 want total deposits over the last 12 months too, not just a current balance. So it does make sense to me from the perspective of verifying that you really are employed and depositing an income into your bank account. Of course there are a lot of people who don't deposit their checks, but if you do then I can see this as a valid way of proving (or at least strongly implying) you really do have a job that meets the poverty guidelines.

In that case you could use bank statements, and highlight the payroll deposits.

Keep in mind this not listed on the I-134, because that would be listing the same thing twice, income cannot be counted also as an asset. Also the deposit amounts are "Take-Home" pay, and the I-134 uses Gross income BEFORE deductions and taxes, so the numbers on the statements will be less than the numbers on your returns W2, employer letter, and pay stubs.

The more that you attach to the I-134 the more questions the VO can ask. I am of the firm belief "Keep it Simple", provide them solid evidence of income (Returns, pay-stubs, employer letter), and continued employment (Pay stubs, and employer letter)

YuAndDan

Mar 7 2008, 01:53 PM

QUOTE(shikarnov @ Mar 7 2008, 01:44 PM)

Personally I think it's ridiculous that we have to prove anything. We're citizens of this country, and the assumption should be that we're telling the truth unless the government has reason to suspect differently, and subsequently has evidence to prove otherwise. This entire process is very dictatorial in nature.

My bank (Wachovia) couldn't provide me with a simple report saying that my total deposits were for the past year. Apparently only the past few months are kept on their computers. They said I could turn over all my paper bank statements to the government and let them sift through those documents to compile a total. Can you imagine? I made them write a letter stating the fact that their computer system doesn't provide that information readily. I did get the average balance over the past year though, the date the account opened, and the current balance. That'll have to be sufficient for Big Brother, because they're not getting their grubby paws on my line item bank statements without a warrant.

I'm starting to understand the Libertarian viewpoint that government is bad. This entire process has been utterly ridiculous, and unnecessarily complex, invasive, and difficult.

Z

The consulate wants evidence that the prospective immigrant wont just enter the USA and then become dependent on public assistance. Later when adjusting status the spouse sponsor MUST sign a contract that the immigrant will be supported by the sponsor, (I-864).

I am of like mind about too much government, dems are for MORE government, conservatives are for LESS government.

mox

Mar 7 2008, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Mar 7 2008, 10:46 AM)

The more that you attach to the I-134 the more questions the VO can ask. I am of the firm belief "Keep it Simple", provide them solid evidence of income (Returns, pay-stubs, employer letter), and continued employment (Pay stubs, and employer letter)

Agreed, which is why I'm asking the question at all. I'm not quite as extreme in my objections as Shikarnov, but it does unsettle me to have to provide more than is absolutely necessary. Not because of government intrusion (although I *am* wary of that also) but because of what you said--the more you give them, the more questions they can ask. The last thing I want is for them to be grilling my girl--whose English is about 60%--on stuff she's going to have no idea how to answer.

QUOTE

I am of like mind about too much government, dems are for MORE government, conservatives are for LESS government.

The last 8 years have certainly thrown a spanner in this argument.

ben2

Mar 7 2008, 02:09 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 12:29 PM)

I know this question has been asked before, and I know the prevailing answer for my situation is "you don't need a bank statement if your income exceeds 125% of the poverty guidelines." However, I have not yet seen an answer that satisfies me completely, due to the wording of the I-134 instructions. I've pasted the relevant portion of the instructions below:

II. Supporting Evidence

As the sponsor, you must show you have sufficient income and/or financial resources to assure that the alien you are sponsoring will not become a public charge while in the United States. Evidence should consist of copies of any or all of the following documentation listed below that are applicable to your situation. Failure to provide evidence of sufficient income and/or financial resources may result in the denial of the alien's application for a visa or his or her removal from the United States. The sponsor must submit in duplicate evidence of income and resources, as appropriate:

A. Statement from an officer of the bank or other financial institutions where you have deposits, identifying the following details regarding your account:
1. Date account opened;
2. Total amount deposited for the past year;
3. Present balance.

B. Statement of your employer on business stationery, revealing:
1. Date and nature of employment;
2. Salary paid;
3. Whether the position is temporary or permanent.

...

I've underlined 2 relevant portions of my concern. The first underline seems to be straightforward. Basically look at the list below and pick the evidence that meets your situation. Based on that, it seems as if I can get away with an employer letter (and pay stubs, although that is curiously not in the instructions).

It's the second underline I'm having a problem understanding. What does it mean that I need to submit "in duplicate?" Does that mean 2 copies of the employer letter, or that I need to supply 2 different methods of verifying my income? Since item C (not quoted above) is for self-employed people and doesn't apply to me, and item D (also not quoted) doesn't apply either, then if they're saying I need to provide 2 different methods of verifying my income, I really only have the Bank Officer letter as a second option.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? I do appreciate responses like "I didn't send a bank statement and we were approved," but I guess what I'm really looking for is some justification.

And the reason I'm asking is because I went to my bank the other day to get a letter, and even though I had a sample letter with me, they all looked at me like a deer in the headlights and finally decided the guy who had the authority to do that was out for the day. I'd like to avoid that again if I can justify in my own mind that it's not necessary.

Not sure of the correct way, can only speak from experience. I did the K1 through the lawyer, and she told me to just print out the balance from the bank's website, which is what i did. That worked out fine. My income is way above the poverty line though, so that might make a difference as well.

russ

Mar 7 2008, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 7 2008, 12:29 PM)

I know this question has been asked before, and I know the prevailing answer for my situation is "you don't need a bank statement if your income exceeds 125% of the poverty guidelines." However, I have not yet seen an answer that satisfies me completely, due to the wording of the I-134 instructions. I've pasted the relevant portion of the instructions below:

I didn't send the letter, or 12 months of statements. It was fine.

I sent 2 pay stubs, one bank statement, and 2 tax returns.

Don't worry about it that much, the absolute worst case is that they ask for more.

Satellite

Mar 7 2008, 02:59 PM

Since VJ advice is partly based on personal experience I will add that we did just fine with no bank statements. Just tax forms, W2's and employment letter. If you want to add more that is your business, I can only speak of what worked for us.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 7 2008, 03:04 PM

Which are exactly what I intend to submit.

QUOTE(Satellite @ Mar 7 2008, 02:59 PM)

Since VJ advice is partly based on personal experience I will add that we did just fine with no bank statements. Just tax forms, W2's and employment letter. If you want to add more that is your business, I can only speak of what worked for us.

CBR

Mar 7 2008, 03:13 PM

This is how I understand it (been struggling with the same issue, mox):

The bank statement would be a SAVINGS account statement. Which would be necessary if your income didn't exceed the 125% enough to satisfy them to show that you have enough $$ to fall back on. Thereby satisfying their ASSET requirements which has to be a certain percentage of how far below the 125% you fall.

Supplying them with a CHECKING account statement is duplicate info as YuAndDan said. All that does is tell them that you deposited your checks into an account. It's irrelevant. Whether you stash it between your mattresses or deposit it in a bank doesn't matter. It's that you MAKE the money which you are proving with the taxes, letter from employer stating your income and the pay stubs.

I'm not going to worry about a bank statement as all I have is a checking account. My savings account has had $50 in it for over a year and hasn't gone up or down lol. Pretty irrelevant info.
I've been driving myself nuts over this too, but feel that this really makes sense (what i said above).

What do you think?

mox

Mar 7 2008, 03:27 PM

QUOTE(CBR @ Mar 7 2008, 12:13 PM)

This is how I understand it (been struggling with the same issue, mox):

The bank statement would be a SAVINGS account statement.

The instructions on the I-134 say "Statement from an officer of the bank or other financial institutions where you have deposits..."

It doesn't implicitly state savings. Or checking for that matter.

The problem is that the directive is so vague and ill-defined that it defies any concrete interpretation. Heck, it's even debatable as to what the requirement is used to prove. And perhaps this works to our advantage, and possibly why the consulates don't seem to really care about it when you have other proof of meeting the income requirement.

In any case I guess I won't worry about it. As someone else pointed out, the worst they can do is hold on to her passport until I provide the info. Hopefully that would be something I could just DHL to them.

CBR

Mar 7 2008, 07:37 PM

I asked NVC while I was doing my call to see if my freakin petition got there yet (nope) and asked about this. She said ASSETS. So if your checking can be considered an asset (and not a sieve like mine) then I suppose it would be something they want. And she also said it's definitely not necessary if you're over 125%.

If you're close then I'd say submit the bank statement if it's going to reflect an asset for you. If not, don't.

jasman0717

Mar 7 2008, 08:41 PM

I just submitted several months of bank statements.

slim

Mar 8 2008, 10:48 AM

You guys should keep in mind that this isn't an audit into your financial history. This is simply providing proof that you're not sponsoring someone into the U.S. and then not going to be able to financially care for them.

Mox, I don't have a link or actual evidence on a website, but I do have first-hand knowledge and proof of what works. I sent almost the same things as Russ and Satellite and fared just fine.

As far as the bank letter goes, I think mine only had a 90-day balance on it. I submitted that along with a letter from my employer, three check stubs and the last two years of W-2s.

Simply put, all you're saying is:

"Here's my I-134 that says I make this much money per year. Here's a letter from my employer that says he pays me this much per year. Here's a few check stubs that prove I make this much per year. Here's a letter from my bank that says I put some of that money in the bank sometimes. And if you still don't believe me, here's a W-2 that you can use to cross-reference what I'm saying with what I'm paying. Have a nice day."

Remember also the only thing you actually need to list on the I-134 is "income" showing 125% of the poverty level. Don't worry about listing your house or IRA or whatever. Just put your salary. That's enough.

And mox...... chill out. You got this!!! (I know you want the piece of mind of knowing you're complying 100% with all guidelines, and the fact is, you are. There is no "you have to have this and you have to have that" because the I-134 is an all-encompassing document for all sponsorships. You're a pretty simple case with a K-1. Stop stressing man!)

mox

Mar 8 2008, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(slim @ Mar 8 2008, 07:48 AM)

And mox...... chill out. You got this!!! (I know you want the piece of mind of knowing you're complying 100% with all guidelines, and the fact is, you are. There is no "you have to have this and you have to have that" because the I-134 is an all-encompassing document for all sponsorships. You're a pretty simple case with a K-1. Stop stressing man!)

Hehe, thanks man. I'm actually pretty un-stressed about this stuff. I hit my stress-peak when I saw NOA2 approvals happening well past my filing date. After approval I've been pretty un-stressed. Well actually, a little stressed trying to put together a plan for her trip to Moscow. But it'll all come together.

Appreciate everyone's input. I'll probably skip the letter from the bank and just go with the tax filings, W-2's, employment letter, and pay stubs.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 8 2008, 12:48 PM

Kirk, my friend, Slim put it very well. I'm sending the exact same evidence you will be. I, believe, we will both be just fine! Its not going to be like the "The Inquisition".

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 11:23 AM)

QUOTE(slim @ Mar 8 2008, 07:48 AM)

And mox...... chill out. You got this!!! (I know you want the piece of mind of knowing you're complying 100% with all guidelines, and the fact is, you are. There is no "you have to have this and you have to have that" because the I-134 is an all-encompassing document for all sponsorships. You're a pretty simple case with a K-1. Stop stressing man!)

Hehe, thanks man. I'm actually pretty un-stressed about this stuff. I hit my stress-peak when I saw NOA2 approvals happening well past my filing date. After approval I've been pretty un-stressed. Well actually, a little stressed trying to put together a plan for her trip to Moscow. But it'll all come together.

Appreciate everyone's input. I'll probably skip the letter from the bank and just go with the tax filings, W-2's, employment letter, and pay stubs.

mox

Mar 8 2008, 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 09:48 AM)

Kirk, my friend, Slim put it very well. I'm sending the exact same evidence you will be. I, believe, we will both be just fine! Its not going to be like the "The Inquisition".

We're *so* going to beat you!

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 8 2008, 01:11 PM

Stop reminding me-!!!

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 12:53 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 09:48 AM)

Kirk, my friend, Slim put it very well. I'm sending the exact same evidence you will be. I, believe, we will both be just fine! Its not going to be like the "The Inquisition".

We're *so* going to beat you!

mox

Mar 8 2008, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 10:11 AM)

Stop reminding me-!!!

I know the chances are infinitesimal, but I kinda hope our girls interview the same day. That would be pretty cool if they could somehow hook up and wait together.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 8 2008, 02:38 PM

Interesting thought. I just finished talking to Alla all about her Women's Day celebration. I mentioned all the approvals of late and told her there is a remote chance she could have her interview at the same time as others I talk to on VJ.

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 01:31 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 10:11 AM)

Stop reminding me-!!!

I know the chances are infinitesimal, but I kinda hope our girls interview the same day. That would be pretty cool if they could somehow hook up and wait together.

Jason-Sasha

Mar 8 2008, 07:04 PM

Hey guys. I submitted the minimum requirements and Sasha was approved. One years tax history (W2, tax return), paystubs, and a letter from my employer. Never included anything from the bank or personal assets.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 8 2008, 07:08 PM

You the man, Jason! Still basking?

QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 8 2008, 07:04 PM)

Hey guys. I submitted the minimum requirements and Sasha was approved. One years tax history (W2, tax return), paystubs, and a letter from my employer. Never included anything from the bank or personal assets.

Jason-Sasha

Mar 8 2008, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 07:08 PM)

You the man, Jason! Still basking?

QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 8 2008, 07:04 PM)

Hey guys. I submitted the minimum requirements and Sasha was approved. One years tax history (W2, tax return), paystubs, and a letter from my employer. Never included anything from the bank or personal assets.

Yeah, still dancing...

Haven't been spending as much time here lately, due to preparations. But I'm tryin' to keep up with all you guys as best I can.

P.S. Only about a week away from a couple sets of nifty wabbit ears, wouldn't you say?

Though, these are my favorite hats so far!

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 8 2008, 07:44 PM

I know what you mean. I know when Alla gets here my posting will be few and far between! (Hey, I think we can all admit, its more to pass the time until our ladies get here!) Glad you like the current headgear. You have already guessed our next look. Keep a look out as soon as 17 March passes!

QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 8 2008, 07:13 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 07:08 PM)

You the man, Jason! Still basking?

QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 8 2008, 07:04 PM)

Hey guys. I submitted the minimum requirements and Sasha was approved. One years tax history (W2, tax return), paystubs, and a letter from my employer. Never included anything from the bank or personal assets.

Yeah, still dancing...

Haven't been spending as much time here lately, due to preparations. But I'm tryin' to keep up with all you guys as best I can.

P.S. Only about a week away from a couple sets of nifty wabbit ears, wouldn't you say?

Though, these are my favorite hats so far!

mox

Mar 8 2008, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 04:44 PM)

I know what you mean. I know when Alla gets here my posting will be few and far between! (Hey, I think we can all admit, its more to pass the time until our ladies get here!) Glad you like the current headgear. You have already guessed our next look. Keep a look out as soon as 17 March passes!

I expect to be pretty scarce for a couple weeks when she gets here, but I do get to post from work so I'm sure you won't be rid of me that easily.

I'll register my unhappiness with the lack of "International Women's Day" bonnets one last time, and move on. I'm eagerly awaiting the "Southern Belle's Month" (April) wigs and bustiers though.

Jason-Sasha

Mar 9 2008, 12:23 AM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 08:04 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 04:44 PM)

I know what you mean. I know when Alla gets here my posting will be few and far between! (Hey, I think we can all admit, its more to pass the time until our ladies get here!) Glad you like the current headgear. You have already guessed our next look. Keep a look out as soon as 17 March passes!

I expect to be pretty scarce for a couple weeks when she gets here, but I do get to post from work so I'm sure you won't be rid of me that easily.

I'll register my unhappiness with the lack of "International Women's Day" bonnets one last time, and move on. I'm eagerly awaiting the "Southern Belle's Month" (April) wigs and bustiers though.

Now that would be awesome! I think they would look great in these. I never heard of Southern Belle's Month. I learn something new here everyday.

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 9 2008, 11:46 AM

Don't think y'all will be seeing any "Southern Belle" Themes.

April means something different to me.

QUOTE(Jason-Sasha @ Mar 9 2008, 01:23 AM)

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 08:04 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 04:44 PM)

I know what you mean. I know when Alla gets here my posting will be few and far between! (Hey, I think we can all admit, its more to pass the time until our ladies get here!) Glad you like the current headgear. You have already guessed our next look. Keep a look out as soon as 17 March passes!

I expect to be pretty scarce for a couple weeks when she gets here, but I do get to post from work so I'm sure you won't be rid of me that easily.

I'll register my unhappiness with the lack of "International Women's Day" bonnets one last time, and move on. I'm eagerly awaiting the "Southern Belle's Month" (April) wigs and bustiers though.

Now that would be awesome! I think they would look great in these. I never heard of Southern Belle's Month. I learn something new here everyday.

jsouthwick

Mar 9 2008, 01:53 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 8 2008, 09:04 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 04:44 PM)

I know what you mean. I know when Alla gets here my posting will be few and far between! (Hey, I think we can all admit, its more to pass the time until our ladies get here!) Glad you like the current headgear. You have already guessed our next look. Keep a look out as soon as 17 March passes!

I expect to be pretty scarce for a couple weeks when she gets here, but I do get to post from work so I'm sure you won't be rid of me that easily.

I'll register my unhappiness with the lack of "International Women's Day" bonnets one last time, and move on. I'm eagerly awaiting the "Southern Belle's Month" (April) wigs and bustiers though.

Oh yeah cotillion wear, that's Southern Belle, and how to teach a Russian woman how to drawl, I guess they have a head start with that rolled rrrr.

Thomas-n-Elena

Mar 9 2008, 05:39 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 12:46 PM)

Don't think y'all will be seeing any "Southern Belle" Themes.

April means something different to me.

Just have to ask what does april mean to you?

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 9 2008, 05:43 PM

You'd have to check VJ's April calendar!

(a hint in itself)

QUOTE(Thomas-n-Elena @ Mar 9 2008, 06:39 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 12:46 PM)

Don't think y'all will be seeing any "Southern Belle" Themes.

April means something different to me.

Just have to ask what does april mean to you?

mox

Mar 9 2008, 06:56 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 03:43 PM)

VJ has a calendar?! I just spent a couple minutes looking for it. Where is it?

eekee

Mar 9 2008, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 03:43 PM)

VJ has a calendar?! I just spent a couple minutes looking for it. Where is it?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?act=calendar

mox

Mar 9 2008, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(eekee @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 03:43 PM)

VJ has a calendar?! I just spent a couple minutes looking for it. Where is it?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?act=calendar

Whoa. So how does one get there if I don't always want to come back to this post and click the linky?

eekee

Mar 9 2008, 07:05 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 08:01 PM)

QUOTE(eekee @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 03:43 PM)

VJ has a calendar?! I just spent a couple minutes looking for it. Where is it?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?act=calendar

Whoa. So how does one get there if I don't always want to come back to this post and click the linky?

it's on the very top right of the screen on every visajourney page.

mox

Mar 9 2008, 07:17 PM

QUOTE(eekee @ Mar 9 2008, 05:05 PM)

it's on the very top right of the screen on every visajourney page.

LOL! Okay, that's just sad. I swear I looked EVERYWHERE!

You kids stay off my damn lawn!

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 9 2008, 07:22 PM

Don't forget to shake your fist in the air after you yell at the kids!

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 08:17 PM)

QUOTE(eekee @ Mar 9 2008, 05:05 PM)

it's on the very top right of the screen on every visajourney page.

LOL! Okay, that's just sad. I swear I looked EVERYWHERE!

You kids stay off my damn lawn!

mox

Mar 9 2008, 07:34 PM

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 05:22 PM)

Don't forget to shake your fist in the air after you yell at the kids!

I have to keep both hands on the walker. Because I'm ooooooold!

*throws hip out*

Kazan' Tiger

Mar 9 2008, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 9 2008, 08:34 PM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 9 2008, 05:22 PM)

Don't forget to shake your fist in the air after you yell at the kids!

I have to keep both hands on the walker. Because I'm ooooooold!

*throws hip out*