Y_habibitk
Mar 6 2008, 11:59 PM
I am curious,what can I say? AND I wanted to start a poll for some reason.
sereia
Mar 7 2008, 12:00 AM
don't have any, not sure if i want any anytime soon (definitely waiting a while!), and if i DO maybe 2 (see how #1 turns out though!)
Cassie
Mar 7 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE(sereia @ Mar 7 2008, 01:00 AM)

don't have any, not sure if i want any anytime soon (definitely waiting a while!), and if i DO maybe 2 (see how #1 turns out though!)
ditto. and if we do, it will be by adoption.
sereia
Mar 7 2008, 12:06 AM
I would consider adoption but my husband refuses to even discuss the idea. So I hope that if we do want kids that I'm fertile and he's packing heat!
Jason-Sasha
Mar 7 2008, 01:51 AM
We both would like children. But not too soon. So, in the meantime we will just practice as often as we can.
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 07:43 AM
this poll sucks. first of, wtf is up with people???? multiple choice? oh, I'm gonna vote yes and no at the same time

and then wtf is up with the second question? we're not all USC waiting for our SO, make the question available for everybody to answer. God damn it!
almaty
Mar 7 2008, 08:35 AM
i voted no on everything............
Cecile and Bryan
Mar 7 2008, 08:39 AM
No children yet. We'll wait a while before to have kids: after spending several years apart, now we want to spend time together. Just him and me. Then 1 or 2 children would be nice.
Wacken
Mar 7 2008, 08:41 AM
1) We have one child already.
2) No. It is too expensive. I think I got a little spoiled in Germany.
3) 1, barring a vasectomy failure or some bizarre change of our dark hearts.
Nagishkaw
Mar 7 2008, 08:49 AM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 07:43 AM)

this poll sucks. first of, wtf is up with people???? multiple choice? oh, I'm gonna vote yes and no at the same time

and then wtf is up with the second question?
we're not all USC waiting for our SO, make the question available for everybody to answer. God damn it!
The OP can create her poll anyway she likes. You have a choice to not participate.
I voted nope and nope.
I can't vote since there is no "oh hell no option" for the 3rd question (or something not insinuating we will have).
Magenta
Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM
There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
Stoopid poll.
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 09:30 AM
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 08:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
Stoopid poll.


that's the attitude
greeneyedgirlfl
Mar 7 2008, 10:00 AM
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
That's what I'm saying...
So, Magz, can my cats join your club?
charles!
Mar 7 2008, 10:17 AM
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
Stoopid poll.

cats are cheaper
Magenta
Mar 7 2008, 10:26 AM
QUOTE(greeneyedgirlfl @ Mar 7 2008, 10:00 AM)

QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
That's what I'm saying...
So, Magz, can my cats join your club?
The VJ Kitty Posse isn't my club; I don't know who started it but Sister Fracas, Jenn!, Kathryn and Mephys all had it in their siggy long before me! I think anyone is free to join.
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 12:36 PM
I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?
Sister Fracas
Mar 7 2008, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:26 AM)

QUOTE(greeneyedgirlfl @ Mar 7 2008, 10:00 AM)

QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
That's what I'm saying...
So, Magz, can my cats join your club?
The VJ Kitty Posse isn't my club; I don't know who started it but Sister Fracas, Jenn!, Kathryn and Mephys all had it in their siggy long before me! I think anyone is free to join.

The VJ Kitty Posse is open to all members who not only believe in, but also encourage the use of kitty pix to defuse any and all popcorn threads.

We run in parallel with the "Lolly Pops and Blowing Sunshine up Your Bum" Club. Some members may be in both groups, but only a Venn Diagram could confirm this.
almaty
Mar 7 2008, 01:57 PM
i am in the Canadian Smarts club
jundp
Mar 7 2008, 02:07 PM
Would anyone like a parakeet and 2 gerbils?
I can't get another cat (or baby) until those are gone.
A.J.
Mar 7 2008, 02:38 PM
No, I don't know, I don't know.
Jenn!
Mar 7 2008, 02:42 PM
QUOTE(Sister Fracas @ Mar 7 2008, 01:17 PM)

QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:26 AM)

QUOTE(greeneyedgirlfl @ Mar 7 2008, 10:00 AM)

QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)

There is also no option for "I'd rather have another cat, instead."
That's what I'm saying...
So, Magz, can my cats join your club?
The VJ Kitty Posse isn't my club; I don't know who started it but Sister Fracas, Jenn!, Kathryn and Mephys all had it in their siggy long before me! I think anyone is free to join.

The VJ Kitty Posse is open to all members who not only believe in, but also encourage the use of kitty pix to defuse any and all popcorn threads.

We run in parallel with the "Lolly Pops and Blowing Sunshine up Your Bum" Club. Some members may be in both groups, but only a Venn Diagram could confirm this.

Kazan' Tiger
Mar 7 2008, 02:45 PM
Yes, have too many already!

And absolutely no more!
DeadPoolX
Mar 7 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 AM)

I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?
I'm sure if money weren't an issue at all, everyone here would probably want to have a couple of kids (or more, perhaps). The main problem is children are expensive. Excluding all the necessary expenses, like food and clothing, they're going to want toys (more likely video games today) and need supplies for school. Then there's healthcare. Let's not forget about college, which is costing more and more each year.
I'm sure I've forgotten quite a bit of stuff, but the point is that children cost a lot and you can't "return" or "exchange" the kid. Once you have a child, you're stuck with him or her -- unless you decide to give the kid up for adoption, but that's emotionally difficult and it can only be done when the child is a baby.
One other non-money issue to contend with here is that from what I gather, a good portion of the women on VJ are on their second marriage (maybe even third), so perhaps they already have kids and don't want any more. If they don't have children, perhaps these women are already in their mid-to-late 30s (or beyond), in which case the chances of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities tend to increase dramatically.
On the other hand... maybe some people just dislike kids and don't want them for that reason alone. Maybe they feel the twerps will "tie them down" or whatever. Who knows? I'm not a mind reader. I'm just tossing out ideas.
Alex+R
Mar 7 2008, 04:06 PM
QUOTE(DeadPoolX @ Mar 7 2008, 03:33 PM)

QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 AM)

I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?
I'm sure if money weren't an issue at all, everyone here would probably want to have a couple of kids (or more, perhaps). The main problem is children are expensive. Excluding all the necessary expenses, like food and clothing, they're going to want toys (more likely video games today) and need supplies for school. Then there's healthcare. Let's not forget about college, which is costing more and more each year.
I'm sure I've forgotten quite a bit of stuff, but the point is that children cost a lot and you can't "return" or "exchange" the kid. Once you have a child, you're stuck with him or her -- unless you decide to give the kid up for adoption, but that's emotionally difficult and it can only be done when the child is a baby.
One other non-money issue to contend with here is that from what I gather, a good portion of the women on VJ are on their second marriage (maybe even third), so perhaps they already have kids and don't want any more. If they don't have children, perhaps these women are already in their mid-to-late 30s (or beyond), in which case the chances of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities tend to increase dramatically.
On the other hand... maybe some people just dislike kids and don't want them for that reason alone. Maybe they feel the twerps will "tie them down" or whatever. Who knows? I'm not a mind reader. I'm just tossing out ideas.

That was fun to read. It was like, you started with a thesis, and then slowly proved yourself wrong by the end.

But seriously, money isn't a factor in my not wanting kids. I just don't want them. Maybe someday I will, and as long as I'm not on welfare I'll probably have one then, god willing.
SteveLaura
Mar 7 2008, 04:10 PM
I'd like to see a Venn diagram, please.
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 04:19 PM
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Mar 7 2008, 03:06 PM)

QUOTE(DeadPoolX @ Mar 7 2008, 03:33 PM)

QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 AM)

I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?
I'm sure if money weren't an issue at all, everyone here would probably want to have a couple of kids (or more, perhaps). The main problem is children are expensive. Excluding all the necessary expenses, like food and clothing, they're going to want toys (more likely video games today) and need supplies for school. Then there's healthcare. Let's not forget about college, which is costing more and more each year.
I'm sure I've forgotten quite a bit of stuff, but the point is that children cost a lot and you can't "return" or "exchange" the kid. Once you have a child, you're stuck with him or her -- unless you decide to give the kid up for adoption, but that's emotionally difficult and it can only be done when the child is a baby.
One other non-money issue to contend with here is that from what I gather, a good portion of the women on VJ are on their second marriage (maybe even third), so perhaps they already have kids and don't want any more. If they don't have children, perhaps these women are already in their mid-to-late 30s (or beyond), in which case the chances of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities tend to increase dramatically.
On the other hand... maybe some people just dislike kids and don't want them for that reason alone. Maybe they feel the twerps will "tie them down" or whatever. Who knows? I'm not a mind reader. I'm just tossing out ideas.

That was fun to read. It was like, you started with a thesis, and then slowly proved yourself wrong by the end.

But seriously, money isn't a factor in my not wanting kids. I just don't want them. Maybe someday I will, and as long as I'm not on welfare I'll probably have one then, god willing.

I've noticed that too. I completely agree with people not wanting kids for reasons like they don't want to be a parent, they enjoy their lifestyle and kids would change that or they just dislike kids, but those people denying themselves to have a child just because it'll be financially difficult is not a good reason IMO.
Wacken
Mar 7 2008, 05:05 PM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 04:19 PM)


I've noticed that too. I completely agree with people not wanting kids for reasons like they don't want to be a parent, they enjoy their lifestyle and kids would change that or they just dislike kids, but those people denying themselves to have a child just because it'll be financially difficult is not a good reason IMO.
Why not?
DeadPoolX
Mar 7 2008, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Mar 7 2008, 03:06 PM)

QUOTE(DeadPoolX @ Mar 7 2008, 03:33 PM)

QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 AM)

I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?
I'm sure if money weren't an issue at all, everyone here would probably want to have a couple of kids (or more, perhaps). The main problem is children are expensive. Excluding all the necessary expenses, like food and clothing, they're going to want toys (more likely video games today) and need supplies for school. Then there's healthcare. Let's not forget about college, which is costing more and more each year.
I'm sure I've forgotten quite a bit of stuff, but the point is that children cost a lot and you can't "return" or "exchange" the kid. Once you have a child, you're stuck with him or her -- unless you decide to give the kid up for adoption, but that's emotionally difficult and it can only be done when the child is a baby.
One other non-money issue to contend with here is that from what I gather, a good portion of the women on VJ are on their second marriage (maybe even third), so perhaps they already have kids and don't want any more. If they don't have children, perhaps these women are already in their mid-to-late 30s (or beyond), in which case the chances of birth defects, diseases and abnormalities tend to increase dramatically.
On the other hand... maybe some people just dislike kids and don't want them for that reason alone. Maybe they feel the twerps will "tie them down" or whatever. Who knows? I'm not a mind reader. I'm just tossing out ideas.

That was fun to read. It was like, you started with a thesis, and then slowly proved yourself wrong by the end. 
But seriously, money isn't a factor in my not wanting kids. I just don't want them. Maybe someday I will, and as long as I'm not on welfare I'll probably have one then, god willing.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
However, I don't think I "proved" myself wrong at all. I wasn't even attempting to "prove" anything. As I said before, I was just throwing ideas out. Some people may not want kids simply because they just don't want them and no other reason (like yourself) and others may not wish to have them due to a financial or biological situation.
There could be some overlap too. Whatever the case, it's a personal decision. I think it's a bit rude to say that anyone's choice to have or not to have children is "right or wrong." It's their life. Let them live it.
kd4uvc
Mar 7 2008, 06:17 PM
NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate competition!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex+R
Mar 7 2008, 06:53 PM
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 7 2008, 06:17 PM)

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate competition!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um... what?
Y_habibitk
Mar 7 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 07:43 AM)

this poll sucks. first of, wtf is up with people???? multiple choice? oh, I'm gonna vote yes and no at the same time

and then wtf is up with the second question? we're not all USC waiting for our SO, make the question available for everybody to answer. God damn it!
Geez.. its my first poll, chill out for the love of God.

lol
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 07:36 PM
why not? because it's selfish. if you realistically can't afford to have a child, then it's understandable, but if you can but are just too worried about having to cut back in some of your luxuries, then it's selfish behavior, IMHO.
JVKn'CVO
Mar 7 2008, 07:38 PM
1) nope
2) we are going to wait a few years
3)So if I want 3-4, I have to vote going for the soccer team?
House count as of today:
hubby and me
1 siberian husky - "Anya"
2 cats
1 african sicklet (that looks like a giant gold fish)
Saludos,
Caro
Y_habibitk
Mar 7 2008, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(JVKn @ Mar 7 2008, 07:38 PM)

1) nope
2) we are going to wait a few years
3)So if I want 3-4, I have to vote going for the soccer team?
House count as of today:
hubby and me
1 siberian husky - "Anya"
2 cats
1 african sicklet (that looks like a giant gold fish)
Saludos,
Caro
Hee hee, no 3-4 wouldnt be a team, really lol
My house is:
my son and I
4 snakes -Achilles,Rosy, never named the other two heh heh
1 gecko- Hanibal
1 german shepherd- Akasha
Lisa
Amby
Mar 7 2008, 07:58 PM
we only want 1-2 kids (neil wants 2 so we have a backup incase something happens to one SERIOUSLY) which we will probably adopt because I'm too selfish and don't want to go through the pain and suffering. plus why have our own kids when there are tons of kids out there waiting for a family. we don't want them anytime soon though. maybe 5-10yrs down the road. we still have way too many things we want to do before we have a family. mainly travel stuff and I'm sure world travel is not easy and not as fun when you're hauling around kids
Nessa
Mar 7 2008, 08:08 PM
you talk like you can just snap your fingers and adopt a baby just like that.
Wacken
Mar 7 2008, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 07:36 PM)

why not? because it's selfish. if you realistically can't afford to have a child, then it's understandable, but if you can but are just too worried about having to cut back in some of your luxuries, then it's selfish behavior, IMHO.
I don't think it is selfish. That person is someone who is probably correct not to want children. Wrong personality, values for the job.
Luxuries are in the eye of the beholder.
Kazan' Tiger
Mar 7 2008, 10:46 PM
I looked at that and thought, what-???

I think you meant African Cichlid!
QUOTE(JVKn @ Mar 7 2008, 07:38 PM)

1) nope
2) we are going to wait a few years
3)So if I want 3-4, I have to vote going for the soccer team?
House count as of today:
hubby and me
1 siberian husky - "Anya"
2 cats
1 african
sicklet (that looks like a giant gold fish)
Saludos,
Caro
Sister Fracas
Mar 8 2008, 10:54 AM
JVKn'CVO
Mar 8 2008, 11:00 AM
QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 12:46 AM)

I looked at that and thought, what-???

I think you meant African Cichlid!
QUOTE(JVKn @ Mar 7 2008, 07:38 PM)

1) nope
2) we are going to wait a few years
3)So if I want 3-4, I have to vote going for the soccer team?
House count as of today:
hubby and me
1 siberian husky - "Anya"
2 cats
1 african
sicklet (that looks like a giant gold fish)
Saludos,
Caro
fudge! I googled it to try to get it right and not even then
Saludos,
Caro
charles!
Mar 8 2008, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(Nessa @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 AM)

I can't believe you guys

you can't just not have kids just because they're expensive. What about things that money can't buy that kids provide, like
unconditional love, suffering, annoyance, disrespect?oh i got married for those
yaziedandlisa
Mar 8 2008, 12:35 PM
yah we are planning on kids.... and FYI hunny i voted on soccer team lol... hmmmm? good poll babe,, and for those who didnt like the poll= 00100... sorry for being rude babe... anyway... this is my wife poll and i LOVE it...
and no adoption ... google = why no adoption in islam...
yzd
bora bora
Mar 8 2008, 12:46 PM
My husband and I do want children - but not for a couple of years when we're better established here. We're both in our mid-twenties and neither one of us has children and we'd like to have a family together. We plan on having two children, but if that doesn't happen (having any kids) then that's what is meant to be.
Parivar CSK
Mar 8 2008, 01:40 PM
We have one(he's new! hehe)...waited about 2 1/2 years after Sujeet moved here/got married before we started trying.
I always said I wanted 2. At the moment, I am scared about recovering from another c-section and my labor was so long that I'd be afraid to try it that way again. It's too fresh in my mind. I am hoping "time heals all wounds" and I will be up for going through it again in a couple years. If not, there is always adoption but it's not an easy thing to go through either.
Wacken
Mar 8 2008, 02:21 PM
QUOTE(stina&suj @ Mar 8 2008, 01:40 PM)

We have one(he's new! hehe)...waited about 2 1/2 years after Sujeet moved here/got married before we started trying.
I always said I wanted 2. At the moment, I am scared about recovering from another c-section and my labor was so long that I'd be afraid to try it that way again. It's too fresh in my mind. I am hoping "time heals all wounds" and I will be up for going through it again in a couple years. If not, there is always adoption but it's not an easy thing to go through either.
I had a short but dreadful labor followed by weeks of infections. It has almost been two years in a couple of weeks and I think the worst is over. I remember it was bad, but the images are no longer so sharp. You won't forget, but you will more than likely get over it and move on. There are many reasons it would not be a good idea for me to have more children, but it is only a short time in my life and life of my child, labor and post-partum. It is not a particularly deciding factor for me. Beyond that, there are no guarantees that next time would be as bad as the last. Many people with bad birth experiences go on to have better ones. If it should ever happen that I fall pregnant again, there will definitely be some changes in how I want my labor and post-partum care managed. Probably the same is true for you.
I am sorry your experience wasn't as good as could be hoped. Eventually though, it will get better. Still too early to think about the next child anyway, just enjoy the cute little guy you have right now.
rkl57
Mar 8 2008, 06:24 PM
Well, I have never given birth, but my mother had a terrible labor with my brother (firstborn) and the world's easiest labor with me (second) - only one contraction and 5 minutes and I made my appearance in this world.
btw Stina - you look great in that photo with your son, motherhood suits you!
raphael7546
Mar 8 2008, 10:08 PM
I have a 12 yr old daughter from my previous marriage.
I would LOVE to have a baby with my hubby but, I am too old now.
guess I'll just have to wait to be a gramma instead.
Kazan' Tiger
Mar 8 2008, 10:13 PM
I used to have a bunch of those until just a few years ago. They are fun fish, challenging to balance personalities, but fun to watch!

QUOTE(JVKn @ Mar 8 2008, 11:00 AM)

QUOTE(Kazan @ Mar 8 2008, 12:46 AM)

I looked at that and thought, what-???

I think you meant African Cichlid!
QUOTE(JVKn @ Mar 7 2008, 07:38 PM)

1) nope
2) we are going to wait a few years
3)So if I want 3-4, I have to vote going for the soccer team?
House count as of today:
hubby and me
1 siberian husky - "Anya"
2 cats
1 african
sicklet (that looks like a giant gold fish)
Saludos,
Caro
fudge! I googled it to try to get it right and not even then
Saludos,
Caro
BelwinMills
Mar 8 2008, 10:20 PM
Were having one soon. Oh and I mean only one!! This pregnancy thing is hard work and I don't love it. It will just be the three of us.
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