kd4uvc
Mar 5 2008, 07:28 PM
My bunny, Beata, understands English OK. She does not understand the southern version of writing very well. I have been trying to explain what I need from her to send to California. If I can get the paperwork here, I will find a translator. Is there a place here or somewhere else which explains the paperwork I need from her in Russian? Can someone help me out? This ole country boy is doing his best but it I sometimes think I'm cold trailing on the paperwork when hunting for my bunny. This dog wants to hunt real bad. Thanks.
If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
eekee
Mar 5 2008, 07:44 PM
kd4uvc
Mar 5 2008, 07:55 PM
Boy, that is pert-near quick as a jackrabbit. I do appreciate it very much and if you let me know when you get married, I'll dance a jig to celebrate you wonderful day.
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 04:28 PM)

My bunny, Beata, understands English OK. She does not understand the southern version of writing very well. I have been trying to explain what I need from her to send to California. If I can get the paperwork here, I will find a translator. Is there a place here or somewhere else which explains the paperwork I need from her in Russian? Can someone help me out? This ole country boy is doing his best but it I sometimes think I'm cold trailing on the paperwork when hunting for my bunny. This dog wants to hunt real bad. Thanks.
If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
Where are you at in the process? Your timeline indicates you haven't filed yet, so I assume what you're asking for is what paperwork to file the I-129F you need from her.
If so, the answer is that you need the following from her:
- Form G-325A. There are 4 copies of what look to be the same page, but they all actually are slightly different at the very bottom of the page. So make sure all 4 pages get printed, and not just the first page printed 4 times. She needs to sign and date each copy. It might be easier for you to just tell her to sign them, and that you will fill them in after she mails them back to you.
- 2 passport photos. See the
K-1 guide for more info on dimensions.
Those are really the only things you need from her to file. I would recommend finding a translator that is willing to be on the phone with her. If she has access to a computer, have the URL handy for the translator to tell her where to download the forms. (again, K-1 guide will help with this.)
If I've completely misunderstood your question, let me know.
Good luck, and as for how you speak, just be yourself.
Don E
Mar 5 2008, 08:14 PM
If I understand you correctly, you're wanting to know what she needs to send you so that you can submit the I-129f to the CSC.....right? Eekee gave you a link to what she will need when she goes to the Embassy for the interview. Although there is some overlap, those are two different things. While I can't give you anything in Russian, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't any misunderstanding. Heck, maybe I'm the one who is misunderstanding!

QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 08:28 PM)

My bunny, Beata, understands English OK. She does not understand the southern version of writing very well. I have been trying to explain what I need from her to send to California. If I can get the paperwork here, I will find a translator. Is there a place here or somewhere else which explains the paperwork I need from her in Russian? Can someone help me out? This ole country boy is doing his best but it I sometimes think I'm cold trailing on the paperwork when hunting for my bunny. This dog wants to hunt real bad. Thanks.
If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
Don E
Mar 5 2008, 08:18 PM
Don't forget the divorce certificate(s)(if applicable) and the signed affadavit of intent to marry.
QUOTE(mox @ Mar 5 2008, 09:08 PM)

QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 04:28 PM)

My bunny, Beata, understands English OK. She does not understand the southern version of writing very well. I have been trying to explain what I need from her to send to California. If I can get the paperwork here, I will find a translator. Is there a place here or somewhere else which explains the paperwork I need from her in Russian? Can someone help me out? This ole country boy is doing his best but it I sometimes think I'm cold trailing on the paperwork when hunting for my bunny. This dog wants to hunt real bad. Thanks.
If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
Where are you at in the process? Your timeline indicates you haven't filed yet, so I assume what you're asking for is what paperwork to file the I-129F you need from her.
If so, the answer is that you need the following from her:
- Form G-325A. There are 4 copies of what look to be the same page, but they all actually are slightly different at the very bottom of the page. So make sure all 4 pages get printed, and not just the first page printed 4 times. She needs to sign and date each copy. It might be easier for you to just tell her to sign them, and that you will fill them in after she mails them back to you.
- 2 passport photos. See the
K-1 guide for more info on dimensions.
Those are really the only things you need from her to file. I would recommend finding a translator that is willing to be on the phone with her. If she has access to a computer, have the URL handy for the translator to tell her where to download the forms. (again, K-1 guide will help with this.)
If I've completely misunderstood your question, let me know.
Good luck, and as for how you speak, just be yourself.

eekee
Mar 5 2008, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(Don E @ Mar 5 2008, 08:14 PM)

If I understand you correctly, you're wanting to know what she needs to send you so that you can submit the I-129f to the CSC.....right? Eekee gave you a link to what she will need when she goes to the Embassy for the interview. Although there is some overlap, those are two different things. While I can't give you anything in Russian, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't any misunderstanding. Heck, maybe I'm the one who is misunderstanding!

QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 08:28 PM)

My bunny, Beata, understands English OK. She does not understand the southern version of writing very well. I have been trying to explain what I need from her to send to California. If I can get the paperwork here, I will find a translator. Is there a place here or somewhere else which explains the paperwork I need from her in Russian? Can someone help me out? This ole country boy is doing his best but it I sometimes think I'm cold trailing on the paperwork when hunting for my bunny. This dog wants to hunt real bad. Thanks.
If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
but i believe that the main document-gathering stage is the interview stage... i thought you only need proof of not being married for the first process of the k-1 visa. anyway the consulate site has numbers for the consulates in russia, so she can always call them and ask.
QUOTE(Don E @ Mar 5 2008, 05:18 PM)

Don't forget the divorce certificate(s)(if applicable) and the signed affadavit of intent to marry.
Oh cripes, you're absolutely right. Doh.
kd4uvc
Mar 6 2008, 04:59 AM
Sorry about taking time to get back. What I need is someone in simple Russian write down what she needs to send me for the USCIC part, I-129. I'll get it translated. I can talk to her in English but she is in a tiffy when it comes to understanding what I need here.
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 6 2008, 02:59 PM)

Sorry about taking time to get back. What I need is someone in simple Russian write down what she needs to send me for the USCIC part, I-129. I'll get it translated. I can talk to her in English but she is in a tiffy when it comes to understanding what I need here.
Hey,
ready to help you with Russian.
As I understand it, you're putting together a document that explains what the Russian beneficiary needs to send to the USC in order to start the process.
Please post the translation on this thread, and I'll make a VJ Wiki entry from it for future filers.
slim
Mar 6 2008, 02:46 PM
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 08:28 PM)

If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
I'm definitely not going to be offended, but I am going to laugh.
I live really close to Kentucky, and there's a line that once crossed, everyone sounds like that. I can't help but laugh at them. And then about an hour later, I find myself talking just like them. And I have to laugh at that too!
As for getting started with the documents, there's a pretty good list in the guides section. I'm sure someone on here can PM you with it in Russian (I can't... not that good!) or you can direct her to a Russian Fiancee site where they have that stuff memorized.
QUOTE(slim @ Mar 6 2008, 11:46 AM)

I live really close to Kentucky, and there's a line that once crossed, everyone sounds like that. I can't help but laugh at them. And then about an hour later, I find myself talking just like them. And I have to laugh at that too!
My sister is like an accent chameleon. Wherever she moves, she absorbs the accent. Not pretentiously, she just sorta does it without knowing she does it. She currently lives in deep deep deeeeeeep Texas, and I can't hardly stand to be in the same room with her. It is a riot to hear her yelling at her kids though.
Kazan' Tiger
Mar 6 2008, 06:19 PM
Slim, I know exactly what you mean. Having lived in Cinci, across the border in Covington, and in Louisville, it don't take to long to say "Florence Y'all!" (Inside joke for anyone living in Northern Kentucky.)

QUOTE(slim @ Mar 6 2008, 02:46 PM)

QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 5 2008, 08:28 PM)

If anyone gets offended by my attempt to be humorous by typing how I speak, ie, southern, please let me know and I will stop. Otherwise, Ima gonna be me.
I'm definitely not going to be offended, but I am going to laugh.
I live really close to Kentucky, and there's a line that once crossed, everyone sounds like that. I can't help but laugh at them. And then about an hour later, I find myself talking just like them. And I have to laugh at that too!
As for getting started with the documents, there's a pretty good list in the guides section. I'm sure someone on here can PM you with it in Russian (I can't... not that good!) or you can direct her to a Russian Fiancee site where they have that stuff memorized.
eekee
Mar 6 2008, 06:24 PM
kd4uvc, it might be a good idea for you to post what you're trying to say to your wife in english so that someone can translate exactly what you're trying to say to her.
kd4uvc
Mar 6 2008, 06:51 PM
I guess I need to say to her I need the following paperwork:
1. Divorce papers so I can get them translated.
2. Police record paperwork for you and Oksana so I can get them translated.
3. Places where you have lived for the last 5 years so I can put them on the 325 form.
4. Name, address, phone # in Russian so they can mail things to you.
5. All data needed on 325 form for Beata and Oksana.
6. ....
Anything else y'all can think of.
I am getting fustrated with myself because I cannot communicate to her what she needs to send to me because of my lack of Russian and my ignorance of the proceedures here.
She is getting fustrated because of her lack of the necessary English to fully understand.
Now, don't y'all fret. I ain't getting mad at her. If anything, I'm trying to keep her patient. I want her here, y'all know the feeling. I did not know what lonely was until I met her. I hate that feeling. I need your help. I ain't afraid to ask. Y'all are a good bunch and the only thing on the net which made me feel like I could make it happen. I got BS (cow patties for those who were offended) from the professional legal side from many. If I need to spend the money, I will but if I can use that money on better things like clothing for them when they arrive and another car because I only have one, I will do that.
If it will help, I will ask permission from her to pm you her email so you can speak to each other in Russian. I think that will give her confidence but I will respect her privacy and ask before I give.
As far as this website goes, "That Dog Hunts!!!"
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 6 2008, 03:51 PM)

Y'all are a good bunch
Ah...you're new here aren't you?

QUOTE
I got BS (cow patties for those who were offended) from the professional legal side from many. If I need to spend the money, I will but if I can use that money on better things like clothing for them when they arrive and another car because I only have one, I will do that.
Unless you are seriously adverse to filling out a few forms and assembling it into a big packet, don't get a lawyer. About the only reason you'd need one (besides being paperwork adverse) is if you had a situation that you considered non-standard or problematic. Otherwise, all you really need is some patience, a willingness do do a little reading, and this community.
QUOTE
If it will help, I will ask permission from her to pm you her email so you can speak to each other in Russian. I think that will give her confidence but I will respect her privacy and ask before I give.
If you can line up one of the wives or fiancee's to talk to her, that would be absolutely golden.
kd4uvc
Mar 6 2008, 07:10 PM
eekee
Mar 6 2008, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 6 2008, 06:51 PM)

I guess I need to say to her I need the following paperwork:
1. Divorce papers so I can get them translated.
2. Police record paperwork for you and Oksana so I can get them translated.
3. Places where you have lived for the last 5 years so I can put them on the 325 form.
4. Name, address, phone # in Russian so they can mail things to you.
5. All data needed on 325 form for Beata and Oksana.
6. ....
Anything else y'all can think of.
I am getting fustrated with myself because I cannot communicate to her what she needs to send to me because of my lack of Russian and my ignorance of the proceedures here.
She is getting fustrated because of her lack of the necessary English to fully understand.
Now, don't y'all fret. I ain't getting mad at her. If anything, I'm trying to keep her patient. I want her here, y'all know the feeling. I did not know what lonely was until I met her. I hate that feeling. I need your help. I ain't afraid to ask. Y'all are a good bunch and the only thing on the net which made me feel like I could make it happen. I got BS (cow patties for those who were offended) from the professional legal side from many. If I need to spend the money, I will but if I can use that money on better things like clothing for them when they arrive and another car because I only have one, I will do that.
If it will help, I will ask permission from her to pm you her email so you can speak to each other in Russian. I think that will give her confidence but I will respect her privacy and ask before I give.
As far as this website goes, "That Dog Hunts!!!"
1. "документы, подтверждающие окончание предыдущих браков," чтобы я мог переводить на английский язык
2. Мне нужна "Справка oб отсутствии судимости и записей криминального характера. В справке из милиции должны быть указаны все имена, фамилии и даты рождения, которыми Вы когда-либо пользовались. Справка должна содержать информацию о каждом месте (области, крае, республике Российской Федерации), где заявитель проживал или живет более 6 меcяцев, начиная с 16-летнего возраста, включая периоды учебы...Если Вы проживали за рубежом, справки требуются из тех стран, где Вы находились более одного года" для тебя и Оксаны, чтобы я мог переводить на английский язык
3. везде где ты жила последние пять лет.
4. ФИО, адрес, и номер телефона, чтобы они могли посылать документы и т.д. тебе
5. вся необходимая информация на форме №325 о Беате и Оксане.
i quoted some stuff about what exactly she'll need for the police report/divorce papers and i am sure my russian is not perfect as i am not a native speaker, but i think she'll understand what i (you!) mean.
kd4uvc
Mar 7 2008, 12:11 AM
Thanks, I sent it to her and now we wait.
slim
Mar 7 2008, 10:25 AM
Another thing you may want to do is have her fill out all the forms herself and get them translated there then sent to you. She can download the G-325 from one of the fiancee sites and print it off, sign it, and send it to you and then she can get her divorce documents, etc., translated and sent to you.
It'll be a lot cheaper for her to do that stuff there than for you to do it here!
Another thing you may want to do is have her fill out all the forms herself and get them translated there then sent to you. She can download the G-325 from one of the fiancee sites and print it off, sign it, and send it to you and then she can get her divorce documents, etc., translated and sent to you.
It'll be a lot cheaper for her to do that stuff there than for you to do it here!
Oh, and I just noticed..... you don't need police record stuff just yet. They'll need that later, but not now.
QUOTE(slim @ Mar 7 2008, 07:25 AM)

Another thing you may want to do is have her fill out all the forms herself and get them translated there then sent to you. She can download the G-325 from one of the fiancee sites and print it off, sign it, and send it to you and then she can get her divorce documents, etc., translated and sent to you.
It'll be a lot cheaper for her to do that stuff there than for you to do it here!
Can't agree here, especially if she's not good making with the English. I'd recommend that she download the G-325A directly from USCIS. The forms page is
here, and the direct download link for the G-325A is
here. The reason I'd recommend against downloading them from anywhere else is that I've seen some sites with links to really outdated forms. USCIS will RFE on an old form, and you don't want to have to wait for her to send you another one.
The other thing I'd recommend is to just have her sign 2 sets of the forms (8 pages total) and send them to you. That way you have 2 complete copies of original signed forms, and there's no chance that a translator could screw it up. When you get the signed forms just fill them out yourself.
There is an instruction on the form that says "If your native alphabet is in other than Roman letters, write your name in your native alphabet below:" If you wanted to have her fill that section in too, you could. Or you could just pm ekee and ask her how to spell your fiancee's name in Cyrillic.
Satellite
Mar 7 2008, 11:07 AM
We just filled out the forms over the phone. I asked the question in Russian, she answered in Russian, and I translated it into English. Simple as that. Then I saved the form. Emailed it to my wife. She printed it out at home. Signed it and sent it back via regular mail.
russ
Mar 7 2008, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(Satellite @ Mar 7 2008, 11:07 AM)

We just filled out the forms over the phone. I asked the question in Russian, she answered in Russian, and I translated it into English. Simple as that. Then I saved the form. Emailed it to my wife. She printed it out at home. Signed it and sent it back via regular mail.
Given the 50% delivery rate from Russia we have seen over the years, I'd invest an extra 80 cents and mail two copies on different days. Everything we send there always arrives in about 10 days. Letters we get from Russia average about a month.
QUOTE(russ @ Mar 7 2008, 12:12 PM)

QUOTE(Satellite @ Mar 7 2008, 11:07 AM)

We just filled out the forms over the phone. I asked the question in Russian, she answered in Russian, and I translated it into English. Simple as that. Then I saved the form. Emailed it to my wife. She printed it out at home. Signed it and sent it back via regular mail.
Given the 50% delivery rate from Russia we have seen over the years, I'd invest an extra 80 cents and mail two copies on different days. Everything we send there always arrives in about 10 days. Letters we get from Russia average about a month.
Or it could be worth looking in to the cost of DHL Her City -> USA. Might be around $60 or so for a letter, but probably worth it if you have to wait a month otherwise. Depends really on how fast the OP wants to move on filing.
EDIT: The thought does occur to me too that you could have her fax a blank copy with her signature on it, then fill it in manually and file your petition. You will get an RFE for not having an original signature, but by that time (5 months if you're filing CSC, 2-3 months if VSC) the real form with her real signature could have been sent. Then you just reply to the RFE. Anyone see anything wrong with this approach?
kd4uvc
Mar 7 2008, 06:03 PM
eekee,
I copied what you typed out to send to her. I wish she would look at the website but I am not sure she knows how to look it up. She did not get the copy. R & I emailed her and she said that she replied to her. I think I am dealing with a confidence problem with her. She is an attorney there but she has a slight confidence problem with English. She speaks well and writes ok, nothing a spell checker could not handle. She is afraid of making a mistake in English. I have never witnessed a person which spoke or wrote perfect English. I do not think it is possible.
I just want her to fill the forms out and get them to me so we can start the process. Every day I get more lonely being away from her.
Robert
PS: Thanks for the help!!
eekee
Mar 7 2008, 09:29 PM
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 7 2008, 06:03 PM)

eekee,
I copied what you typed out to send to her. I wish she would look at the website but I am not sure she knows how to look it up. She did not get the copy. R & I emailed her and she said that she replied to her. I think I am dealing with a confidence problem with her. She is an attorney there but she has a slight confidence problem with English. She speaks well and writes ok, nothing a spell checker could not handle. She is afraid of making a mistake in English. I have never witnessed a person which spoke or wrote perfect English. I do not think it is possible.
I just want her to fill the forms out and get them to me so we can start the process. Every day I get more lonely being away from her.
Robert
PS: Thanks for the help!!
i'm a bit confused... what happened? who did she reply to?
kd4uvc
Mar 8 2008, 05:58 AM
I don't know who. She just said yesterday morning that she received an email and she replied to it. I am getting seriously fustrated with her. The only thing on her mind the last few days was the Woman's Day Party with her friends and family. She is pushing my limit.
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 8 2008, 02:58 AM)

I don't know who. She just said yesterday morning that she received an email and she replied to it. I am getting seriously fustrated with her. The only thing on her mind the last few days was the Woman's Day Party with her friends and family. She is pushing my limit.
Int'l Women's Day is HUGE over there, cut her some slack. It's probably the second biggest holiday of the year behind New Years. And don't make the mistake that it's just a second Valentines Day. It really is a huge deal. When she says she's organizing a party with her friends and family, she's probably organizing what you and I would consider to be a prom or wedding reception on the epic-party-o-meter. Cut her a little slack and let her get through the day, and then she'll probably be more available to deal with it.
Get used to this too, and learn how to roll with it. Things that you think are ridiculously important will take a back seat to something you really can't fathom. Or sometimes what you think is important seems to be taking a back seat to nothing at all. It's just how it is with these women. Get used to it or you will be replacing drywall and forehead skin frequently.
Ask me how I know. Oy.
Oh, and you did send her flowers right? RIGHT?! Sweet jeebus tell me you sent her flowers.
kd4uvc
Mar 8 2008, 11:42 AM
No, I did not send her flowers. I sent her what she wanted. She gets mad when I send flowers. It's not the fact of the holiday, she used it as an excuse. She is doing strange things when I ask certain questions she has previously answered. I am not sure that she wants to fill out the paperwork. This has been happening for weeks now. She has started not eating, she lives with her parents now and they have food. There are some strange things going on and all together is causing me to question our relationship. She received her gift on Wednesday and afterwards, it was like sometimes, I did not exist. Whatever is going on, I cannot help if I don't know.
QUOTE(kd4uvc @ Mar 8 2008, 08:42 AM)

No, I did not send her flowers. I sent her what she wanted. She gets mad when I send flowers. It's not the fact of the holiday, she used it as an excuse. She is doing strange things when I ask certain questions she has previously answered. I am not sure that she wants to fill out the paperwork. This has been happening for weeks now. She has started not eating, she lives with her parents now and they have food. There are some strange things going on and all together is causing me to question our relationship. She received her gift on Wednesday and afterwards, it was like sometimes, I did not exist. Whatever is going on, I cannot help if I don't know.
Hmmmm. Sorry to hear this. Sounds like you've got some bigger things to work out than paperwork right now. Not sure what I can say, but I hope you and her can get it worked out.
slim
Mar 10 2008, 08:56 AM
It sounds to me like you guys talk (or message or Skype or whatever) way too much.
If you're trying to get in touch with her and she's busy doing stuff in her normal life, it may seem like she's blowing you off, but in reality, she's just going on with her normal life. When she's ready to talk to your or do the papers or whatever, maybe then she'll make it seem like you exist.
In the mean time, don't take it personally, just be patient. She'll get it done. She'll make time.
And if she doesn't..... well, then you're saving yourself a whole bunch of time because you'll know before getting further along in this VJ process whether or not she's as serious about this whole thing as you are.
Try not calling her for a few days. Don't send any messages. Nothing. Let her come back to you and then tell her the seriousness of getting this $#!T done. Her actions will let you know.
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