Supposing the beneficiary had an ignored K 1visa petition. Now, here comes another guy who wants to petition her for a K1 visa. Is there any complication in the immigration? Thanks so much .....

Me and my ex-fiancee met last march 2007 but were 2months in the relationship at that time..And then he filed k-1 visa last july 2007.We always had a misunderstanding AND when time goes by..on that situation,we decided to broke up because we knew that were out of love to each other..And then last November i met a very kind man..Matured enough to understand me.We met on 1st week of february and came back to his country after a couples of day.

And he wants to file for k-1 visa this coming September. Does the 1st petitioned will affect this second one to us?He received NOA1 last august and nothing hear from him..just the last word"im just going to ignore it!
I really dont have any idea in this situation..
HELP ME PLEASE!!

Help me to understand. Two different men petitioned for a visa for you. One earlier, who has yet to inform anyone that he will not go through with it, and now this new person has also filed a petition on your behalf? So you are wondering if there will be complications with the current petition since the old one, by another petitioner, is still in process?

Your post is a lil bit confusing my dear. So...U mean your 1st FIANCE filed a k1 visa for you last year of july?then while on the process of the case you guys broke up?then last year of November you met a guy and he wants to file a K1 visa for u?
You have to call USCIS and write to them and let them know what happened and you want to withdraw the application.im not sure if u can do it or your ex-fiance coz he was the one who filed it.
Definitely it will affect your case if your new man will file now.Ask a lawyer for this one just to be make sure and to avoid any complications and unwanted issues to arise in the future.
THE IMBRA is not an issue for you.Its only applicable for the petitioner not to the beneficiary of k1 visa.

GOod luck!

yes..two different man..one is earlier..and the 2nd one was planning to file k-1 visa in my bhalf this coming september..
im wondering if the 1st petitioned will affect this coming second petition..my ex-fiancee received NOA1..he told me that last year b4 we broke up..and after that,nothing i hear from him..i dont even receive any letter after all that stuff..im wondering too whats goin on on that 1st petitioned because my ex-fiancee dont give me the case #,so i can checked it..but he dont give me our case# b4 we end the relationship...

I dont hear anything to my ex-fiancee...So how can i fix everything??..My recent boyfriend now know about this but i want to fix it before he file this coming september..I try to contact my ex-fiancee to help me in this situation..but nothing...he changed his #..
Is there any way to fix it.???.It was a totally abondoned petitioned..He just ignore it

This is another place where the use of incorrect terminology confuses many. Yes, the first petition (not application) needs to be withdrawn but the beneficiary cannot do that. The USC petitioner needs to do it. If they don't, then the only thing the foreign beneficiary in this circumstance can do is write a letter explaining the former relationship has ended and they will not be following through with any visa application based thereon.

None of this has anything to do with IMBRA.

1- How do you know your first fiance sent the petition ?? maybe he just didnt do it but said he would..

And I am not here to judge but how can you want to marry a man or men lol that you dont even know?

love isnt a game..less a mariage...

Anyway if you are sure the petition been sent and is on completion..then the only thing is to cancel it which only your fiance can do.


If theres none sent already theres no problem you nw fiance can apply for you.


good luck

1- How do you know your first fiance sent the petition ?? maybe he just didnt do it but said he would..

And I am not here to judge but how can you want to marry a man or men lol that you dont even know?

love isnt a game..less a mariage...

Anyway if you are sure the petition been sent and is on completion..then the only thing is to cancel it which only your fiance can do.


If theres none sent already theres no problem you nw fiance can apply for you.


good luck

If you dont want to judge then why judge? How do you know she doesnt know him?

They met online November then personally in February. Sometimes that's all it takes to know someone enough to want to marry em.

Right. This kind of judgmental comment is totally out of line and is not mitigated in the least by saying you don't want to judge. Just don't do it.

WOOOO...take it easy there !!!

I answered the question regarding if she can be the beneficiary for a second k-1...but it might be her first anyway. (if her first fiance never sent it out )


We have the right to our own opinions on VJ...


So dont wear the hat if you feel hurt by the thruth


Good luck

Quick to judge, slow to read...

- Derrel

This is "Visa Journey" not "Relationship Advice", so kindly keep your judgments of others relationship decisions to yourself.

You're walking in the garden of a lot of people who were engaged or married after short courtships. Not for you? Fine! Potato/Potahtoe. OK?

Yes this maybe visa journey but given the OP is 19years old ( which is quite young).

I agree with with Ladynoles to some degree....you cannot truly know someone til you live with them, but i suspect you have a better chance of sucess if you invest more time during courtship period...."marry in haste repent at leisure"

Thats not to say ALL short courtship relationships fail....some are very sucessfull happy marriages ( and good luck to them).......but i think when someone as young as 19 goes into one it is vastly different to when someone older is choosing a short courtship.

Those who are married after a short courtship period and are happy,secure and content in their lives certainly shouldn't feel the need to take umbrage or be personally offended with anyone who has a different point of view.. the response to give would be something like ....

" I hear what you say, you may be right in some cases however for me the short courtship was all the time i needed to know that this was the person for me to spend the rest of my life together"

If you want to discuss relationship advice there are appropriate forums here in which to do it. The IMBRA forum isn't one of them. This is a forum for IMBRA questions and answers. Please be kind enough to stay on topic.

wow...my topic became hot...THANKS FOR ADVICE..I REALLY APPRECIATE IT..YES..WE CANNOT JUDGE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US...WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE..even UR YOUNG OR OLD..OR in a SHORT OR LONG COURTSHIP..it doesnt matter...when u want to marry a man..its BECAUSE U LOVED HIM ANd U KNOW HIM enough...to be ur husband...

thanks alot.....im asking for what will i do on my case...not involve the age..niether the courthip period or etc...the main topic is WHAT WILL I DO TO MY 1ST PETITION..SO IT WILL NOT AFFECT MY 2ND 1..yes....it bother me..because it will appear on their database....this will be my 2nd time to be the beneficiary of 2 different petitioner...

How fortunate for you that the first petition didnt run its full course and you didnt marry the first petitioner...otherwise you would have been married to the wrong guy.

"wow...my topic became hot...THANKS FOR ADVICE..I REALLY APPRECIATE IT..YES..WE CANNOT JUDGE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US...WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE..even UR YOUNG OR OLD..OR in a SHORT OR LONG COURTSHIP..it doesnt matter...when u want to marry a man..its BECAUSE U LOVED HIM ANd U KNOW HIM enough...to be ur husband..."

Good luck with your journey.

You nailed it truffles

Dbears,

You filed for a fiance visa for a Filipina? I don't want judge but how could you do that? Why do you expect the girl to leave her life behind and come to the USA, on only your verbal promise of marriage? If you really loved and cared about her, you would have married her in the PI before you asked her to leave her life behind.

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I'm just making a point. The above does not express my feeling about fiance visas but if it did, the IMBRA forum is not the place to discuss such things. Perhaps you'll see my point now. Please stay on topic.

You miss the point.....this wasnt to do with the OP stating she was promised a marriage and it didnt happen...and she feels let down, which is basically what you are offering dbear as a argument. It doesnt fit this particular case.

The remarks refer to the speed of the action....and a suggestion that taking a little more time out so as she is NOT finding herself in a situation she may come to regrets.( I hope not ) ....at 19years old she may think she can deal with all life throws at her...and she may well be one of the unusual 19 year old who can - most need input from others.
The basis for this is that OP already said

"when u want to marry a man..its BECAUSE U LOVED HIM ANd U KNOW HIM enough...to be ur husband..."

and i am sure she felt exactly the same for the first petitioner ....

Yes it is advice..you may feel it is inappropriate on this board....you and the OP have the benefit of ignoring it if it offends.

Of course they are different issues. What is the same is they are both examples of judgmental comments that are inappropriate and off-topic for the IMBRA forum.

Please stay on-topic AND keep your nose out of other peoples' relationships when all they asked about was the visa process.

LOL....may i venture you confuse judgements with suggestions....

Not at all. The suggestion was made because of the judgment and more to the point was off topic. This is not a forum for relationship suggestions. The question was about the visa process.

You set such high standards Pushbrk!...I know i can rely on you to offer me constructive coaching on the rights and wrongs of posting! I think I would like to emulate your exemplary principles in regard to definition of whats allowed and what is not...May I seek out as many of your future posts as i can to learn from your excellence ?

My mom was 17 and my dad was 18 when they married. It was a very, very short courtship. 42 years later, you could still see that they love each other very much.

I've been to many relationships. Short and long term. If you think you can really get to "know" someone simply by knowing him/her for say five years, then I think you're sadly mistaken.

In your opinion, what's the "standard" or acceptable lenght of time you have to know someone before you think you "really know" someone enought to marry?

Pushbrk's point is that judgements have no place on this thread.

The point I'm making is... Don't judge.

I dont know why that is so hard to understand and why you seem to think its ok.

Heck, you're not even aware you're making judgements.

i agree to you...my topic is not here to judge of anyone...each of your advice will help me alot about my visa processing... and whatever they said about my age or courtship...who care!!!i really appreciate the one who help me here...

You just made me roll with laughter. Actually pushbrk, I AM the Filipina fiancee and filing for a fiance visa has been a mutual decision. And to set the record straight, we originally planned on getting married here in the Philippines, as a matter of fact we have already booked some wedding vendors but then decided to just go for a K1 visa as it is more cost effective as of now and then have another wedding here in the Philippines 2-3years from now or maybe on our 5th anniversary.

You are so vent on "Please stay on-topic AND keep your nose out of other peoples' relationships when all they asked about was the visa process." but just read your post to me... and actually some of your other post here on VJ....

well, i won't add anything more coz i was taught to respect the elderly even if they are so touchy, after all, they are supposed to be so full of wisdom .. but man, you cracked me up with that one .. thank you for making me laugh, really needed that one.

Wow! It's tempting but I think I'll just keep my mouth shut.

babe07, hang around the forum. There's plenty of people here that will help you with your questions as you go through this process. Just ignore the people who thinks their sh*t don't stink.

Regarding your original post, I really think you have to contact USCIS. I know your ex is the one who filed the petition but YOU are the one applying for a visa. It would only make sense that USCIS honor your request to cancel your original petition. They'd probably request all this in writing but the point is, it doesnt hurt to contact USCIS. Better yet, it probably doesnt hurt to consult a competent attorney regarding your case.

Good luck!

good one dbear

that made me laugh too

To the OP: How can you be sure that your ex-fiance filed K1 for you? Do you remember filling out and signing forms? Did he ask you for some pertinent documents?

--Mae

yes..he filed k-1 visa..we arrangeD everything with the helpED of my cousin whos in california now.....i signED some paperworks and fill it all my information...i got CENOMAR,129-f form,biographic info in my G325form which is submitted in california...AND i know he filed k-1 as i remember, last july26..and after a cOUPLES OF WEEK he received NOA1..And after that..nothing hear from him...

Sorry if I had to ask... I have seen cases here where they were told by their ex-fiance that they filed K1 but the ex-beneficiary couldn't remember signing any forms nor submitting I-129F's requirements. Well, in that case, he did file for you. If he didn't cancel the petition, your case should have been in Manila Consulate by now (looking at your given dates of filing) and they should inform you about it. If only your case is at consulate stage, you have the option to cancel and not pursue it.

To all: is it possible that the case can be abandoned if the petitioner received an RFE and didn't respond to it?

I received the packet 4 just right now..and i cant stop crying,this is the day that im scare about..My medical will be on march 28 and visa interview is on april 4...please help me...now the 1st petition will totaly affect the second one who will be file on september..I dont know where will im going to start this mess...please help me,i dont have any idea..i am totaly block...

babe07,

Did you or your current fiance followed the advice of many here and called/contacted either the USCIS or embassy?

Whatever the affect of this petition is, its already been done. Whatever that affect is, you'll just have to find out.

People here can give all the advices but really the only people that can help you are the embassy people or a competent attorney. Call them and tell them that your ex filed this and decided to abandon it. Ask them how is this going to affect future petitions for you.

Good luck bab07!

So you have a very short time to know each other well when your ex fiance apllied for K-1 visa (That's scary). I think you have to keep in touch with your ex before you new boyfriend will file another one. There's no problem with it for as long as your ex will cancel it at the USCIS. This is the first thing you should do but then I think your second K1 Application will be more complicated.

How ironic life can be... There are people here who will do anything just to have their medical and interview appointments and yet here you are, scared and confused now that you have it. How I wish that appointments are transferable, you know what I mean?

Everything is all in your hands now. Since the case is at US Embassy Manila, the best thing you can do is call them and tell them about your predicaments. Tell the truth. They might even give you credits for being honest. Tell them whatever happened to your relationship with your ex-fiance. Tell them that after receiving the NOA1, things went wrong and you never heard from him and about the case. Tell them that you are not going to pursue the interview and that you want it to be considered as cancelled. And then after that, tell them about your relationship right now with your current fiance. Tell them about his plan of petitioning you and ask them of any complications that may arise in the future. I'm sure (God willing), you will find all the answers to your questions. If I'm not mistaken, if the visa applicant didn't show up on the interview appointment, the application is considered abandoned. But you wouldn't want to just do that as your name and case will be in their records. That is why calling them is your best option as of yet.

Good luck and may you find the peace in your heart and mind.

--Mae



If you will read above your post, it will tell you that her ex-fiance didn't cancel the application.

hello!

Babe07, it seems me that you received packet 3, why did you not react at this time?
It's seems me that the embassy asks you to send some files and after they send you the packet 4.
For me it was like that.
Maybe they will ask you this question for your future interview?

Good luck

thank you so much for your advice..it really help me alot... And prayers too...thanks

So, send the package back with a signed letter indicating the relationship is over and you will not be applying for a visa. Just do it. There's plenty of time to get this sorted out before September.

Ummmmm, just get the current fiance to obtain the services of an immigration attorney. No need to speculate.............

To go back (just a little bit) to the too young, too this, too that.... (no i will not judge)
BUT!
I think the right question when you talk about a marriage is... would the USC be ready to marry in Philipines and leave there for a while just because he loves her... and would she be happy with that situation.
I think this prove real love and commitment.

Sure, that's one of many "tests" one might apply. Different strokes and all. For instance, although I would have been willing to live in China for a while, it would not have been a practical choice for our family at the time we married. We intend to spend a lot of time in China from 2010 forward though. I suspect it would be highly impractical for many with bona fide relationships.

As foreign as it might sound to many, "real love" is not a requirement for a bona fide marriage relationship, from the standpoint of a Consular officer. It's a good thing but not a requirement.

LOL. Tru dat pushbrk. Amen.

Not to say that babe07's relationship isnt real but I think people are forgetting that the Consular Officers are looking for the "legality" of the relatonship. CO's cant and wont be able to tell if relationships are real. If they could, I think a very, very high majority of K1 applicants in the Philippines and other third-world countries would get rejected. Just my .02.

I don't know... i guess i still have some "real love" illusions.... (eventho my 30+ yo)
To me marriage = real love
If not i would be more comfortable to call it some kind of an agreement or something but anyway, this is another subject

Well, it is and I share your standard of "real love" for my own marriage. It's just not a requirement imposed by Consular officers. A real marriage need not include love as far as immigration is concerned. It simply must be about significantly more than obtaining an immigration benefit for the foreign partner.

For instance, there are still "arranged marriages" that may or may not include "real love" until after the fact.

A legitimate purpose may be companionship and caretaker, where both parties desire companionship and say one needs financial support while the other needs "care".