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Nagishkaw
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 05:13 AM) *
Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.


Your post just put me in emotional shock! To behold that much intense impromtu freakout broke open my heart... for real. Sloppy finger pointing isn't giving you the kick it used to? Then might I suggest a few things that may help ( I would have asked for your permission to post, but my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range ) ...Fling imaginary lightening bolts from your finger tips at anyone who annoys you and toss a few love bombs at anyone who thrills you. In a loud, sarcastic voice mouth off at people who became members after 2004 . Blame EWOK for not making you a shareholder in VJ stock, then stage a puppet show starring yourself as a noble hero. Make ugly faces in the mirror with lots of tongue sticking out, and write a nice long post on how perfection sucks.
Theone
quote name='idocare' date='Feb 17 2008, 05:13 AM' post='1588874']
Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.
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Omoba
Reported for personal accusation of my SO being deceitful and having more than one wife.

By the way, I am a k1 if you have not noticed.

The admin is Ewok not Wok and it was Noah not Noel that was called by God to tell about the flood. I think you work for the opposite camp and to compare yourself to Noah is well....ehem....never mind.

I base my post on the TOS part that mentions "accusations that are interfering with enjoyment of this site " and have no problem with someone posting their story, but you are on a mission to seek and destroy ( especially newbies ) and it is getting weird. My suggestion was to contain it to the effects forum where it may benefit someone. Though I have no desire to control posters, it is my simple suggestion to contain your ramblings of doom and gloom for the sake of board etiquette and adhere to the purpose of this site, which is IN FAVOR of bringing our loving African SO's here. That IS the purpose of this site. You work against that.

No, you are not my kind of restaurant I would eat in and yet the stench keeps coming when I pass it on the way to a place called
encouragement and support.

Have a nice weekend ! smile.gif
Omoba
You are finished with your VISA journey, that is correct. But do you understand that fact ?
LovinLiberia
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 16 2008, 03:14 PM) *
Efia06

I totally agree with you when you typed the one thing you can be sure of is 'God, for he will never leave you nor forsake you. Regardless of where you are from, where he is from, regardless of your tribes tradition, no 2 people that join themselves together are guaranteed to stay together. Heck even in America there are some African couples that find themselves in line to seek divorce papers.


Boo Boo

Why label me depressed ? I assure you that all is well here. My story might make you depressed, however I'm the one that lived it and I can assure you there is life after a fraudulent international marriage, once again, I tell my story NOT due to being deeply depressed, but to let the newbies on here no of the possibility of their relationship. There are people on here that are currently going thru what I have went thru and I predict there will be more that will gradually tread down that road. I hope that your not one of them, since you already know about what I'm going to type and it offends YOU to read it, please reframe from reading it or open it and reoffend yourself. It's your choice.
As for me I will continue to do what I feel is best.



QUOTE(Omoba @ Feb 16 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER
their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.
I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.
You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational
choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.
You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose
of this visa journey site.
There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.
By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."
Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.
Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?
Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?
What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?
It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.
It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.
Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.
When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?
When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?
Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.
This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.
I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.
I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.
You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.
The horse has been dead long ago !


Woooooow! The two posts by Omoba and Ebonyqueen totally summed up EVERY though I have had about this situation. good.gif good.gif good.gif good.gif good.gif

I have also been meaning to ask this question. Idocare keeps mentioning that we don't have read her story if we don't want to. Why do you (Idocare) insist on fooling us into reading them. Your happy New Year's thread was titled along the lines of "Happy New Year, 2008". This one was titled "Internet Love". Those give NO HINTS to the negativity to that we are about to encounter. You always try to sneak it in somehow. I've said it before, there is a time and a place to tell your story or as you call it "enlighten" us.


QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 04:13 AM) *
Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.


Idocare, after reading one of the most negative posts I have ever seen, I thoroughly believe that you DESERVED every bit of what that man did to you. If that is how you think, act, and behave when someone gives you the truth, then I would have left you high and dry, too. What man wants to be with a woman who constantly puts people down, such as yourself? How dare you tell someone that her husband is cheating on her or that she is possibly the second or third wife. You've been through this journey yourself and you know the feelings of happiness, sadness, lonliness, etc. that we all go through. You KNOW that she and others are on AP. How could someone in their right mind INTENTIONALLY cut and hurt someone knowing the pain they must already be experiencing from this journey.

All that sh!t you just typed contradicted itself. You tell her she is not in control, but yet you come off as The Master of Know it All. You basically tell her and the rest of us that since we didn't join in 2003 that we have NO RIGHT to post or have an opinion. Who are YOU to constantly harass us little, tiny, opinionless members with your hate, negativity, and bashing (disguised as a story)? You feel as if only you and your CLIQUE are right or have the right to speak, don't you? There are people who actually do take the time to investigate and get to know the person they are dealing with. Don't knock us for doing something you didn't. Yes, we all know of the risks of scammers and users, but we are also grown enough to overcome the situation if we find ourselves in it.

Your post has me convinced that YOU are the very reason that you are still bitter, twisted, sick, and negative. YOU are the reason behind three years of hatred and anger. YOU are the reason that you found yourself in your particular situation. You blame your ex and you damn sure are trying to somehow blame us for "being too blind to our own misery". Idocare, when will you learn to blame yourself?
Queen Jenn
QUOTE(Omoba @ Feb 17 2008, 08:28 AM) *
You are finished with your VISA journey, that is correct. But do you understand that fact ?


Yeah, my understanding is that this is a site for people who are CURRENTLY in the immigration process. . . . .
LovinLiberia
QUOTE(Omoba @ Feb 17 2008, 09:15 AM) *
Reported for personal accusation of my SO being deceitful and having more than one wife.

By the way, I am a k1 if you have not noticed.

The admin is Ewok not Wok and it was Noah not Noel that was called by God to tell about the flood. I think you work for the opposite camp and to compare yourself to Noah is well....ehem....never mind.

I base my post on the TOS part that mentions "accusations that are interfering with enjoyment of this site " and have no problem with someone posting their story, but you are on a mission to seek and destroy ( especially newbies ) and it is getting weird. My suggestion was to contain it to the effects forum where it may benefit someone. Though I have no desire to control posters, it is my simple suggestion to contain your ramblings of doom and gloom for the sake of board etiquette and adhere to the purpose of this site, which is IN FAVOR of bringing our loving African SO's here. That IS the purpose of this site. You work against that.

No, you are not my kind of restaurant I would eat in and yet the stench keeps coming when I pass it on the way to a place called
encouragement and support.

Have a nice weekend ! smile.gif


Once again, another excellent post.
boo boo
Wow....outstanding posts ebonyqueen, omoba, and lovinliberia....and I believe that this is a forum for people currently going thru the process... and it should be a supportive forum. Idocare, if you are really trying to "help" people, then it would be more beneficial for you to post it in the proper forum....this is not the place (over and over during holidays or on joyous occassions), as you can see.

Please respect everyones opinion, you are causing more harm then good...the proof is in your postings. It is insane how you have tried to ruin someones day on many many different occasions, I hope that it ends TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UNO...
good afternoon,
this has been...entertaining and miseducational as well.
my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range jest.gif that is priceless (I LOVE IT laughing.gif )
Noel and the ran...I guess if "Noel was telling me it was going to ran" I would have ran also ohmy.gif , but if Noah was telling me about the rain wink.gif , now that deserves attention cool.gif
and pray tell...who is this Captain Wok...{the great VJ administrator from da' hood!} ph34r.gif
and did I hear some one mention VJ stock???? how much is "that" going for? whistling.gif
y'all don't mind UNO, I'm just trying to lighten the mood,
its thicker than new england fog after the rain on a humid day.yes.gif
now I'm going back to doing one of the things that entertains me the most...reading.gif
idocare
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.
Nagishkaw
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.


REMEBER, Omoba, OBIDE by WOK rules or make yourself vanish ! wacko.gif
idocare
You said that my dress was inapproiate and I'm gonna report you.
You talked negative about my fiance and I'm gonna report you.
You said that the sky was falling and I'm gonna report you.



I'm gonna report you , I'm gonna report you, I'm gonna report you!!!!!!

You do remember the address to make your report right ? Good.

Omoba
I never ever mentioned anything about your DRESS ? Are you feeling ok today ?

I am within my rights to report you for accusing my SO personally of being deceitful and having several wives. Oh, yes.

I am within my rights according to VJ guidelines to report a situation that drives the forum down hill according to the majority of readers
because of one single poster....you.

There are a few others who in a mature manner post their relationship troubles and that is good as they are in a different level of their journey,but my point is you have an agenda
that drives the forum like an underlying current in the wrong direction. No one here has a problem with someone asking for help or offer advice from a broken relationship, not at all, so don't make it sound so simple and innocent.

You just don't get it, this is NOT one of your yahoo groups for scam marriages but a respectable, supportive immigration site with certain topics belonging in certain forums. your posts are overkill and the wide majority rejects your approach. You do not have to prove a stubborn streak here, you could just follow advice given you by many here. But if you want enough rope to hang yourself go at it, we will be here to respond as well.

Report, report, report........
Kind of sounds like you with your deport them, deport them , deport them in your other threads doesn't it ? How one little letter
can make the difference wink.gif






Bassi and Zainab

Idocare, why are you so angry?
Omoba
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Feb 17 2008, 03:50 PM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.


REMEBER, Omoba, OBIDE by WOK rules or make yourself vanish ! wacko.gif



Puff !
I actually like cooking with a Wok, Chinese veggies, yum.
Omoba
Also there won't be a need to start a thread for happy couples only............this site IS for happy couples. You got it the other way around.
There is one forum for divorce, separate and distinct. You may want to check it out............."effects of family changes". wink.gif
ose_n_me
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.


I really don't think anyone here is opposed to you posting or telling your story. The issue is more with the way you interject into positive topics, or start topics that have a positive title, then the subject ends up being your negative message again. We all know we have the "right" to post what we want, where we want, but It's a matter of respect and principle. You're trying so hard to get your message across to all of us, yet you are causing us to be on the defensive because your negativity pops up in every thread. It's hard to ignore something that keeps being forced on you. I really think people would respect you and your efforts more if you would be a little more respectful of the rest of us too.

Instead of all this anomosity, personal attacks, assumptions, and calling each other out, we should be trying to support, encourage and learn from each other. Its not about freedom of speech, or having the "right" to do this or that. just because we have the right to do something...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's common courtesy and respect for peoples feelings and thoughts. It's more of a "godly" and "righteous" way to be towards others. Thats the problem with the world now...everyone uses "having the right" to do something as an excuse to act any way they want, without taking responsibility for the fact that what they are doing may be hurting someone else. If you don't care that you are making others uncomfortable with your "posting style" then why do you care to "help" us? If you truly want to help, then be respectful, share your story (as ebonyqueen suggested)and those of us interested in reading it will do so; and if you don't want to share our joy or happiness, then ignore the threads that are started as a happy, encouraging place. Just like you have asked us to ignore your posts, please be kind enough to do the same to ours. Is that asking too much? Keeping with the "subject matter" is the responsibility of all of us.


God Bless heart.gif
Queen Jenn
QUOTE(ose_n_me @ Feb 17 2008, 02:01 PM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.


I really don't think anyone here is opposed to you posting or telling your story. The issue is more with the way you interject into positive topics, or start topics that have a positive title, then the subject ends up being your negative message again. We all know we have the "right" to post what we want, where we want, but It's a matter of respect and principle. You're trying so hard to get your message across to all of us, yet you are causing us to be on the defensive because your negativity pops up in every thread. It's hard to ignore something that keeps being forced on you. I really think people would respect you and your efforts more if you would be a little more respectful of the rest of us too.

Instead of all this anomosity, personal attacks, assumptions, and calling each other out, we should be trying to support, encourage and learn from each other. Its not about freedom of speech, or having the "right" to do this or that. just because we have the right to do something...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's common courtesy and respect for peoples feelings and thoughts. It's more of a "godly" and "righteous" way to be towards others. Thats the problem with the world now...everyone uses "having the right" to do something as an excuse to act any way they want, without taking responsibility for the fact that what they are doing may be hurting someone else. If you don't care that you are making others uncomfortable with your "posting style" then why do you care to "help" us? If you truly want to help, then be respectful, share your story (as ebonyqueen suggested)and those of us interested in reading it will do so; and if you don't want to share our joy or happiness, then ignore the threads that are started as a happy, encouraging place. Just like you have asked us to ignore your posts, please be kind enough to do the same to ours. Is that asking too much? Keeping with the "subject matter" is the responsibility of all of us.


God Bless heart.gif



good.gif good.gif good.gif
one love
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 14 2008, 05:33 AM) *
Hello all,


First I want to say for those that my message don't apply to just Dont reply.

I met my ex-husband thru the internet, he then was a medical doctor in Nigeria, he contacted me and we hit it off as most internet relationships do. with this new found love I found myself booking a ticket to go and meet him. While in Nigeria and meeting my ex for the first time he proposed marriage to me, however it was already being talked about over the phone before I arrived. Oh that man said he loved me so much.

During my 6-day stay there he protected and shielded me. I went to work with him and actually sat in as he seen his patients. I met a friend of his as well as everyone that was on staff at the hospital that he worked at and all was good.

I met his mother and some family members and they seemed really nice. About day 4 of my ex-husband driving thru the diasterous traffic I begin to feel at ease with his driving skills as well as all the vendors running in the streets to make a sale. Again, all was good.

Fast foward to time to leave, ......ofcourse I accepted his proposal and we were officially a couple engaged. I was older then my ex-husband, but that didn't matter to me. The fact that he showed me all that attention and love was what mattered. He showed and told me that he loved me, however I was in Nigeria at that time. I had never sponsored a man to come from overseas so I didn't really know much about it. I did do research on his country and found a site where it said that a Nigerian man will walk away from a marriage leaving his wife to find a way to feed their kids, agian that didn't matter to me, because while I was there in Nigeria this man treated me like a queen (not to mention that he was a doctor there. )

Here in the states I worked in the medical field and actually worked with other Nigerian doctors, I didn't know them very personally but they were respectful towards me so no alarms went off.
Again my ex-husband and his family were very kind and repectful as well.


FAST FOWARD:

My ex arrives in the states thru a K-1 visa I filed for in his behalf. He tells me that we need to marry quick so that he can become a doctor here in America and raise the family income. ( who wouldn't go for that after all that's your fiance talking, the man that you trust and love ) So ofcourse I complied with my soon to be husband.

FAST FOWARD:

After marriage gradually he begin to create strive and discord in our relationship ( his beginning plan for leaving the relationship ) and evenually he left our family home and begin writing letters talking about how abrusive I was towards him......... ( At that time I knew nothing about a I-360 )

Our son was only 3-weeks old when he left, Here in Seattle they have a rather large Nigerian community here, I didn't know that either.

Moral of my experience is that you won't know of an aliens intentions, you will know of what they tell you prior to coming into America or obtaining their papers. I understand many of you being supportive and thinking that your relationship is real and that your alien spouse really love s you and your both deeply in love, I've already been there and done that. What many of you don't and won't grasp is the masquerade until it becomes too late.

My ex-husband was from Nigeria, and from what I have read on this site from postngs from men that say they r from Nigeria is that others that want to come into the states look for a MUGU ( a fool ) to file paperwork for them and get them into the states. It don't matter your age, race, or financial income, as long as the paperwork goes thru, other countries also partake in this scam not just Africans.

If you love your mate, ofcourse you trust them, leaving u the LPR/American, very vulnerable because once your love arrives legally, there are ways to stay here, without u the sponsor being involved. There will be some from this site that is posting regularly that will experience what I and others have experienced, not because your a bad person it will be because of the scam.

I'm not bitter, I'm just committed to posting every-now-and -again to enlighten others. But again like I said you won't really know what an aliens intentions are , I do believe that there are good people all over the world, and now I believe that there r also scammers all over the world as well.

This Internet has made it easier for Aliens to come into America thru marriage and don't look for the aliens family to be nothing but good to you, afterall your bringing there love one into America.

Many have ran to Nigeria and married without giving there spouse a chance to prove their love towards them. ( Sex isn't a proof of internal love it only satifies both lusty sexual desires ) Many of us have spent thousands of dollars sending money to our alien loved ones and talking on the phone to them, ofcourse once they arrive here and eventually start acting a fool your left with thinking of all the money and time you have invested into this person, and in most cases you try to make it work with a person that don't want to be with you.

Take it from me, if the alien no longer wants to be with you they won't, unless they are in school and your supporting them or something similiar. However the true colors come out eventually.

I guess what needs to be demostrated is the love that they proclaim.

Finally, to all that are going thru this process, I wish you all well and hope that your visajourney becomes one full of longevity and joy.

my thoughts to you is to become familiar with the I-360.

I'm open to answer e-mails or for a chat

here we are here fro support of others not to hear about ur down fall and blameing Nigerian men for Scams.. Scams is world wide.. even thou im sorry for ur pain Maybe this should of ben placed in diffrent area but not certianly here... We love our Nigerian men .. Not all are like your husband u just got an bad apple.. And maybe it was both of u that could not make it work.. It takes to make and two to break... Sorry but alot of us feel same... If it happens to us we learn move on.. but it is not just Nigerians the Rtae of divorce is much higher in USA
idocare
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.
Omoba
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 06:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.



Interesting to see your true colors come out now. I knew it would be only a matter of time.
By the way, some VJers have pm'ed and told another side of you.
That side is quiet ugly to say the least !
A side you have not told here for obvious reasons.
You don't have to shout at me in CAPS or get so emotional.
You won't influence our actions and choices either.
Don't use that tone with me lady. I am not starting a war, I am finishing the war to restore peace here.

Take a very deep breath and chill out !
Efia06
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 02:38 PM) *
I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.


That's a pretty hypocritcal statement. Are you on a higher horse that you think you can influence OUR actions? That we are all too blind and we cant see we are all being scammed by men exactly like your ex husband?
Perseverance
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 03:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.




WOAH!!! Stop just a minute, back up the bus and let it idle for a moment...

I would not say that Omoba started a war...she was not afraid to voice what many are thinking. I think that there are many of us who are tired of the same ole " Nigerians are scammers" interjected into so many threads. I realise that you started this thread yourself, but at this point so many people are tired of just ignoring this subject and hoping that you will some how come to terms with the pain that you still carry. You continue to come here to VJ after your immigration process has long been ended, so that must mean that you are getting something from interacting with us here. You want to share, I understand, give us more to work with here, besides the broken record of Nigerians are scammers. We can help you work through the stages of this divorce, many of us have also been divorced and understand the pain. Divorce is never an easy thing to cope with, more so when there are children are involved. I came from a divorced home and now my children do as well (first marriage quite bad) As a child who comes from a divorced home, I need to ask...are you thinking of your child and how this effects the child? No matter how small the child was when the event happened, it will still effect the child, the problems of divorce can effect children for the rest of thier lives. If you would open up to us in a way that we can talk about this together, we could help you through this. Believe me when I tell you that my first marriage and then divorce were my own private hell, I found a way for the sake of my children to forgive thier father so our children do not have to be caught up in the middle of what happened to us. It took a lot to come to terms with everything he had done to me, he was very abusive. We can help you if you allow us to, but as far as bashing an entire country full of people over what happened between you and your ex husband, we dont want to hear it anymore. There are other ways to get your message across without all of this termoil everytime. I hope that you can read my post with an open heart, because it was written with an open heart.

God Bless
Omoba
Can't reveal what I know because of TOS but things are clear to me now. Crystal clear. He was actually not a bad kind of guy.
Wow is all I can say. Little bird just flew by here. Enough said.

Nagishkaw
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 05:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

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idocare
Even in this thread that I started there was peace, until you came in and tried to take control.
YOU WANT TO PRETEND LIKE YOUR ALL THAT omoba BUT GUESS WHAT, YOUR TURN IS COMING .

DREAM OF HAPPY THOUGHTS , DO THINGS FOR SELF PLEASURE FOR ONE DAY THE SUN WILL GO DOWN ON YOUR PARADE.

None of the people that I talk to would waste their time talking to you, so now your resort to lies, hummmmm Tell your lies, Tell Caption Ewok, Tell whomever will listen.

YOU ARE JUST A MEMBER HERE, PLEASE TAKE YOUR PLACE, WANNA TRY TO CAUSE SOME DISCORD I THINK YOU HAVE DONE THAT AND FOR WHAT? BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO POST MY OPPINON, YOUR ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK I'M GONNA CRAWL UNDER A CHAIR AND LAY DOWN BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO COME ON THE THREAD I STARTED AND CAUSE DISCORD,
ANOTHER THING I'M NOT GONNA GO RUNNING TO CAPTIAIN EWOK. I;M GOONNA HANDLE YOU MYSELF.

LISTEN LADY, U NEED TO REEVALUATE YOURSELF SITTING AT YOUR PC TRYING TO RULE THIS FORUM IT ISN;T GONNA HAPPEN. I WILL EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR YOU TO STOP TRYING TO DIVIDE THIS FORUM. AND AGAIN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONTENT OF MY MESSAGE STAY AWAY, BUT IF YOU WANT A WAR BRING IT ON. I NOW KNOW YOUR TRUE COLORS, LIEING ON PEOPLE, THERE'S NOT ONE VJ PERSON THAT I TALK TO THAT WOULD TALK TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE ON OUR FEELINGS ABOUT YOU., WHY DO YOU LIE, DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. R U PRACTRICING FOR WHEN YOUR FIANCE ARRIVES PEOPLE THAT LIE ON OTHERS FALSELY WILL GET LIED TOO. WHAT'S YOUR AGE ABOUT 60 AND HERE IT IS YOUR STILL ACTING LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD KID !!! I'M GONNA REPORT YOU .........I'M GONNA REPORT YOU RUN BABY RUN
Perseverance
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Feb 17 2008, 04:42 PM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 05:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.

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I can interpret that picture in soooo many ways devil.gif
LovinLiberia
QUOTE(unononehigher @ Feb 17 2008, 01:06 PM) *
good afternoon,
this has been...entertaining and miseducational as well.
my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range jest.gif that is priceless (I LOVE IT laughing.gif )
Noel and the ran...I guess if "Noel was telling me it was going to ran" I would have ran also ohmy.gif , but if Noah was telling me about the rain wink.gif , now that deserves attention cool.gif
and pray tell...who is this Captain Wok...{the great VJ administrator from da' hood!} ph34r.gif
and did I hear some one mention VJ stock???? how much is "that" going for? whistling.gif
y'all don't mind UNO, I'm just trying to lighten the mood,
its thicker than new england fog after the rain on a humid day.yes.gif
now I'm going back to doing one of the things that entertains me the most...reading.gif


ROFL!

QUOTE(Bassi and Zainab @ Feb 17 2008, 02:27 PM) *
Idocare, why are you so angry?


Having personality issues will do that to you.

QUOTE(ose_n_me @ Feb 17 2008, 03:01 PM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Correction noted, Captain Ewok and Noel, thanks.

I never seen where it said that I had to be waiting for a Alien to come or because my journey is at a certain point, or even finished that I can't post. Omoba called me out, so I addressed her. I told her how I feel as she shared with me how is feels. I shared my predicament for her VJ. Those are my feelings, if she feel that I'm wrong that's her feelings however those feelings aren't shared by me. Now what ???

Some here know me personally, they know of my personality, some that have posted about how bitter they feel I'm or I must be angry don't know me.

If you want a froum of everything positive maybe you should think about starting a thread titled for happy couples only. If you choose to read my thread and YOU find it offensive, remember that you have control over your mouse to click off or to pass it by.

Remeber that this is a open forum, it's not meant strictly for those who Alien spouse is abroad only. If a person that went thru this journey back in the year 2000 decided to post a thread they are indeed welcomed to do that, other members have no right to discourage them nor do you have a right to tell them where to post.

Please remember that your only a member here just like the rest of us, I'm asking that you respect my right to post, and my right to freedom of speech. If you don't enjoy the message don't continue to listen to it. That's your right, but never try to take over a messengers message.

Omoba you need to revisit the guidelines for this room before posting, then if you don't want to obide by Captain Woks rules you are free to remove yourself.


I really don't think anyone here is opposed to you posting or telling your story. The issue is more with the way you interject into positive topics, or start topics that have a positive title, then the subject ends up being your negative message again. We all know we have the "right" to post what we want, where we want, but It's a matter of respect and principle. You're trying so hard to get your message across to all of us, yet you are causing us to be on the defensive because your negativity pops up in every thread. It's hard to ignore something that keeps being forced on you. I really think people would respect you and your efforts more if you would be a little more respectful of the rest of us too.

Instead of all this anomosity, personal attacks, assumptions, and calling each other out, we should be trying to support, encourage and learn from each other. Its not about freedom of speech, or having the "right" to do this or that. just because we have the right to do something...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's common courtesy and respect for peoples feelings and thoughts. It's more of a "godly" and "righteous" way to be towards others. Thats the problem with the world now...everyone uses "having the right" to do something as an excuse to act any way they want, without taking responsibility for the fact that what they are doing may be hurting someone else. If you don't care that you are making others uncomfortable with your "posting style" then why do you care to "help" us? If you truly want to help, then be respectful, share your story (as ebonyqueen suggested)and those of us interested in reading it will do so; and if you don't want to share our joy or happiness, then ignore the threads that are started as a happy, encouraging place. Just like you have asked us to ignore your posts, please be kind enough to do the same to ours. Is that asking too much? Keeping with the "subject matter" is the responsibility of all of us.


God Bless heart.gif


good.gif Yet another post that was very well said and captured a lot of the things that I feel. It definately is not about not having the right to post here, but about the manner in which you do it. Not everything that comes across this forum is happy-go-lucky, but it shouldn't be degrading to the others who post here, either. I feel like her posting style comes off as we are all stupid or irresponsible or incapable of making our own decisions regarding our OWN relationships.

QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 04:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.


Wow, you are getting way too worked up over this. No one is ganging up on you. Alot of us were willing to give you a chance to explain yourself and "tell your story". This is not the first time you decided to share with us and all of a sudden we just up and ganged up on you. You have been doing this for a few years now and I think you had more than enough chances and open hearts from us. I don't know why you are hellbent on coming across as the victim and get it straight....no one is trying to tell you what to do or not to post, but the style of your postings is simply uncalled for. Why would a person even want to continue trying to "help" people in the manner that you are doing it? It seems as if you are stuck on being stubborn and unwilling to accept criticism. I guess you will also be stuck with others telling you where you should be posting. You aren't getting anything that anyone else is telling you, then why should we all get your point?

QUOTE(Perseverance @ Feb 17 2008, 05:18 PM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 03:38 PM) *
Alot of us feel the same, what is it that you feel. Sadness when you hear anyone say something against your thoughts.

ZEE --- Why you call me angry, do I judge your post and attach a title to you

Omoba, you come on this thread to start a war ???? Anyone that has a not so happy story should go somewhere else, I keep telling you this isn't your forum, nor do you have the right to tell me where to post. What part of that are you not understanding.

Every message will not be to your liking, and it's not meant to be, as this is a open forum what part are you not understanding, as for all the name calling and all (oh she's angry, oh she this , oh she that ) you all can say what you will, you CAN"T TAKE OVER THIS FORUM.

NOR CAN U MAKE ME STOP POSTING, GANG UP ON ME TO MAKE YOURSELFS FEEL BETTER, I WAS BORN BY MYSELF AND I MAKE MY DECISION BY MYSELF GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU WON'T INFLUENCE MY ACTIONS.




WOAH!!! Stop just a minute, back up the bus and let it idle for a moment...

I would not say that Omoba started a war...she was not afraid to voice what many are thinking. I think that there are many of us who are tired of the same ole " Nigerians are scammers" interjected into so many threads. I realise that you started this thread yourself, but at this point so many people are tired of just ignoring this subject and hoping that you will some how come to terms with the pain that you still carry. You continue to come here to VJ after your immigration process has long been ended, so that must mean that you are getting something from interacting with us here. You want to share, I understand, give us more to work with here, besides the broken record of Nigerians are scammers. We can help you work through the stages of this divorce, many of us have also been divorced and understand the pain. Divorce is never an easy thing to cope with, more so when there are children are involved. I came from a divorced home and now my children do as well (first marriage quite bad) As a child who comes from a divorced home, I need to ask...are you thinking of your child and how this effects the child? No matter how small the child was when the event happened, it will still effect the child, the problems of divorce can effect children for the rest of thier lives. If you would open up to us in a way that we can talk about this together, we could help you through this. Believe me when I tell you that my first marriage and then divorce were my own private hell, I found a way for the sake of my children to forgive thier father so our children do not have to be caught up in the middle of what happened to us. It took a lot to come to terms with everything he had done to me, he was very abusive. We can help you if you allow us to, but as far as bashing an entire country full of people over what happened between you and your ex husband, we dont want to hear it anymore. There are other ways to get your message across without all of this termoil everytime. I hope that you can read my post with an open heart, because it was written with an open heart.

God Bless


Your post came off as very caring. Let's hope she doesn't lash out at you.

Where is her ex husband, Victor? I would love to hear his side of the story in this matter. I wonder what he would say to her years of bad mouthing and putting him and his people down...
ebonyqueen
People...I'm thinking that Idocare just aint gonna get it!!!! She not seeing thru her anger enough to see that we aint the enemy here! She don't understand that no ones telling her not to post, or not to tell her story. I think she just has some "issues", and chooses VJ as an outlet for her pain. I'm beginning to feel she resents any of us who may have a true loving and legitimate relationship, thats why she is trying so hard to throw salt. She is jealous and feels sorry for herself. There is no other way to explain why she would try to bring others down by being so negative in every thread. And I don't think she gonna stop. You can't reason with an "unreasonable" person. If we report it, and Ewok closes the thread..she just gonna start up in another one!

So I say we just ignore her all together. Whenever she interupts a topic, no one respond...and just move on. Continue the discussion as if she wasn't even there. Those who want her advice or explaination can continue to pm her as she claims people are doing. She's only making herself look more ignorant by continuing to post and argue with everyone. I think she likes the drama! She likes the attention we all giving her! So maybe we just need to take the attention away from her now.

She's getting a taste of her own medicine! Feeling the intense urge to defend bcuz someone is being negative about something they feel strongly about! Hmmm.....Idocare, do you even realize that you are doing exactly wat we are doing?!!!!! WOW....unreal!!!!

Ok people...lets just end it now. Everyone stop posting here, and lets move on. If she creeps into the other posts...lets just ignore her. Ok? Come on...lets unite in protest!!! Hail to the Queen Omoba (jus playin wit u girl! We love u...lol)

LovinLiberia
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 05:45 PM) *
Even in this thread that I started there was peace, until you came in and tried to take control.
YOU WANT TO PRETEND LIKE YOUR ALL THAT omoba BUT GUESS WHAT, YOUR TURN IS COMING .

DREAM OF HAPPY THOUGHTS , DO THINGS FOR SELF PLEASURE FOR ONE DAY THE SUN WILL GO DOWN ON YOUR PARADE.

None of the people that I talk to would waste their time talking to you, so now your resort to lies, hummmmm Tell your lies, Tell Caption Ewok, Tell whomever will listen.

YOU ARE JUST A MEMBER HERE, PLEASE TAKE YOUR PLACE, WANNA TRY TO CAUSE SOME DISCORD I THINK YOU HAVE DONE THAT AND FOR WHAT? BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO POST MY OPPINON, YOUR ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK I'M GONNA CRAWL UNDER A CHAIR AND LAY DOWN BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO COME ON THE THREAD I STARTED AND CAUSE DISCORD,
ANOTHER THING I'M NOT GONNA GO RUNNING TO CAPTIAIN EWOK. I;M GOONNA HANDLE YOU MYSELF.

LISTEN LADY, U NEED TO REEVALUATE YOURSELF SITTING AT YOUR PC TRYING TO RULE THIS FORUM IT ISN;T GONNA HAPPEN. I WILL EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR YOU TO STOP TRYING TO DIVIDE THIS FORUM. AND AGAIN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONTENT OF MY MESSAGE STAY AWAY, BUT IF YOU WANT A WAR BRING IT ON. I NOW KNOW YOUR TRUE COLORS, LIEING ON PEOPLE, THERE'S NOT ONE VJ PERSON THAT I TALK TO THAT WOULD TALK TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE ON OUR FEELINGS ABOUT YOU., WHY DO YOU LIE, DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. R U PRACTRICING FOR WHEN YOUR FIANCE ARRIVES PEOPLE THAT LIE ON OTHERS FALSELY WILL GET LIED TOO. WHAT'S YOUR AGE ABOUT 60 AND HERE IT IS YOUR STILL ACTING LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD KID !!! I'M GONNA REPORT YOU .........I'M GONNA REPORT YOU RUN BABY RUN



LMAO, your insane posting is getting funny. I guess the truth that Omoba spoke must've really hit a chord with you. Once again, tell us how you treated him or better yet, give details to back up your "nigerians are all scammers" philosophy.
UNO...
wow, I'm still reading.gif
but now I need some eb0dfafc.gif
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LovinLiberia
QUOTE(ebonyqueen @ Feb 17 2008, 06:05 PM) *
People...I'm thinking that Idocare just aint gonna get it!!!! She not seeing thru her anger enough to see that we aint the enemy here! She don't understand that no ones telling her not to post, or not to tell her story. I think she just has some "issues", and chooses VJ as an outlet for her pain. I'm beginning to feel she resents any of us who may have a true loving and legitimate relationship, thats why she is trying so hard to throw salt. She is jealous and feels sorry for herself. There is no other way to explain why she would try to bring others down by being so negative in every thread. And I don't think she gonna stop. You can't reason with an "unreasonable" person. If we report it, and Ewok closes the thread..she just gonna start up in another one!

So I say we just ignore her all together. Whenever she interupts a topic, no one respond...and just move on. Continue the discussion as if she wasn't even there. Those who want her advice or explaination can continue to pm her as she claims people are doing. She's only making herself look more ignorant by continuing to post and argue with everyone. I think she likes the drama! She likes the attention we all giving her! So maybe we just need to take the attention away from her now.

She's getting a taste of her own medicine! Feeling the intense urge to defend bcuz someone is being negative about something they feel strongly about! Hmmm.....Idocare, do you even realize that you are doing exactly wat we are doing?!!!!! WOW....unreal!!!!

Ok people...lets just end it now. Everyone stop posting here, and lets move on. If she creeps into the other posts...lets just ignore her. Ok? Come on...lets unite in protest!!! Hail to the Queen Omoba (jus playin wit u girl! We love u...lol)


You are right. It isn't sinking in and it won't. If so much time has passed and she is still fully involved with what her ex supposedly did to her, then she must have issues. To think, she is wasting so much time over him when he has probably moved on loooooong ago. whistling.gif She has stooped to the very low level that she claims we are all on. This is starting to feel like beating a dead horse for real.
idocare
Everyone has a right to their oppinon. You all can say this and you can say that concerning my demeanor, how my divorce has affected me so much or that you feel that I still hold alot of anger. As I said many times I don't care about that. Your oppinon of me, does nothing for me.


Some did strike a cord with me today I'll admit that. I like the susgestion of you all ignoring my posts and just letting me be. I'm hoping that the few that don't like my threads adhere to your advice.


I,m going to be me, and if I feel a need to share some information I'll do that. As for me telling all that I have been thru with Victor isn't necessary as I don't have to justify my post to anyone in here. I'll share what I want to share period. Some understand my post some don't.

Thanks for bringing to the attention of this board that they don't have to read or reply any of my posting if they find the content offensive.


knl
I've not read this all through, but why not everyone just ignore Idocares threads when she starts them in the first place. If she does not have fuel for her fire, she'll eventually give up. If she gets Zer0 replys, boy won't she be bored and see no one cares to read her sh!+
idocare
lol
idocare
lol
Omoba
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 07:45 PM) *
Even in this thread that I started there was peace, until you came in and tried to take control.
YOU WANT TO PRETEND LIKE YOUR ALL THAT omoba BUT GUESS WHAT, YOUR TURN IS COMING .

DREAM OF HAPPY THOUGHTS , DO THINGS FOR SELF PLEASURE FOR ONE DAY THE SUN WILL GO DOWN ON YOUR PARADE.

None of the people that I talk to would waste their time talking to you, so now your resort to lies, hummmmm Tell your lies, Tell Caption Ewok, Tell whomever will listen.

YOU ARE JUST A MEMBER HERE, PLEASE TAKE YOUR PLACE, WANNA TRY TO CAUSE SOME DISCORD I THINK YOU HAVE DONE THAT AND FOR WHAT? BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO POST MY OPPINON, YOUR ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK I'M GONNA CRAWL UNDER A CHAIR AND LAY DOWN BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO COME ON THE THREAD I STARTED AND CAUSE DISCORD,
ANOTHER THING I'M NOT GONNA GO RUNNING TO CAPTIAIN EWOK. I;M GOONNA HANDLE YOU MYSELF.

LISTEN LADY, U NEED TO REEVALUATE YOURSELF SITTING AT YOUR PC TRYING TO RULE THIS FORUM IT ISN;T GONNA HAPPEN. I WILL EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR YOU TO STOP TRYING TO DIVIDE THIS FORUM. AND AGAIN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONTENT OF MY MESSAGE STAY AWAY, BUT IF YOU WANT A WAR BRING IT ON. I NOW KNOW YOUR TRUE COLORS, LIEING ON PEOPLE, THERE'S NOT ONE VJ PERSON THAT I TALK TO THAT WOULD TALK TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE ON OUR FEELINGS ABOUT YOU., WHY DO YOU LIE, DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. R U PRACTRICING FOR WHEN YOUR FIANCE ARRIVES PEOPLE THAT LIE ON OTHERS FALSELY WILL GET LIED TOO. WHAT'S YOUR AGE ABOUT 60 AND HERE IT IS YOUR STILL ACTING LIKE A 6 YEAR OLD KID !!! I'M GONNA REPORT YOU .........I'M GONNA REPORT YOU RUN BABY RUN





My reply to your accusations :

You said : " Do things for selfpleasure for one day the sun will go down on your parade."
I say : " Ok Dr. Ruth. But if you speak evil over my relationship you must first go through God who ordained it.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.

You said : " You are lying""
I say : " No I am not and Admin can access it at any time he feels the need to do so."

You said : " Take your place ! "
I say : " Where would you like for me to sit ?"

You said : " I won't crawl under a chair."
I say : " By all means don't, would a rock suit you better ? "

You said : " Not one VJ person I talk to will talk to you."
I say : " This thread speaks for itself and it seems you ran off the one ( no pun intended ) very last one you had left.

You said :" I will handle you myself. "
I say :" Handle your ownself, that will keep you busy for a while."

You said : " You are 60."
I say : " Some days I feel like it but no you aren't even close."

I also know that you encountered several red flags but chose to not only ignore them but partake in them. You did things you should not have done during the process.
Be accountable for your choice and take the consequence like a woman.
Shall I go on ? Or is the truth enough for now ?
May I suggest to chose an American so you don't feel compelled to bad mouth African men. But you keep going back for more don't you ? You are very controlling and manipulative packaged and wrapped in rage. An unfortunate combination.

As I said before, no I am not interested in fighting and drama but want to make sure you understand clearly this time how the
majority feels here.
Omoba
QUOTE(ebonyqueen @ Feb 17 2008, 08:05 PM) *
People...I'm thinking that Idocare just aint gonna get it!!!! She not seeing thru her anger enough to see that we aint the enemy here! She don't understand that no ones telling her not to post, or not to tell her story. I think she just has some "issues", and chooses VJ as an outlet for her pain. I'm beginning to feel she resents any of us who may have a true loving and legitimate relationship, thats why she is trying so hard to throw salt. She is jealous and feels sorry for herself. There is no other way to explain why she would try to bring others down by being so negative in every thread. And I don't think she gonna stop. You can't reason with an "unreasonable" person. If we report it, and Ewok closes the thread..she just gonna start up in another one!

So I say we just ignore her all together. Whenever she interupts a topic, no one respond...and just move on. Continue the discussion as if she wasn't even there. Those who want her advice or explaination can continue to pm her as she claims people are doing. She's only making herself look more ignorant by continuing to post and argue with everyone. I think she likes the drama! She likes the attention we all giving her! So maybe we just need to take the attention away from her now.

She's getting a taste of her own medicine! Feeling the intense urge to defend bcuz someone is being negative about something they feel strongly about! Hmmm.....Idocare, do you even realize that you are doing exactly wat we are doing?!!!!! WOW....unreal!!!!

Ok people...lets just end it now. Everyone stop posting here, and lets move on. If she creeps into the other posts...lets just ignore her. Ok? Come on...lets unite in protest!!! Hail to the Queen Omoba (jus playin wit u girl! We love u...lol)




I thought about that too but we all have been quiet for so loooooooooooooooooong ............lol............that
I thought I couldn't take the disrespect anymore, am also concerned about the newbies being run off by her.

Anyway love ya back ! cool.gif
Boaz
[quote name='idocare' date='Feb 14 2008, 04:33 AM' post='1581424']
Hello all,


First I want to say for those that my message don't apply to just Dont reply.

Obviously some people did not comprehend the first sentence of YOUR post.
Boaz
In the word's of Jomo's Girl ...... So tired of watered down VJ.

It seems as if we only discuss the 'feel good' matters, everyone is happy.
Boaz
QUOTE(Omoba @ Feb 16 2008, 08:15 PM) *
Idocare

the forum " effects of major family changes on immigration benefits " would be a place to take your posts to help someone with what to do AFTER
their marriage has fallen apart.

Here, in the sub-saharan we are happy, content couples, waiting to be with our SO's. Sometimes we hurt due to the separation and long AP is devastating.
I find you are trying to break up happy couples by sowing doubt into every relationship here and in a very subtle manner try to erode all that is good and hopeful.
You seem to lack insight and awareness that you have absolutely no control over our choices and relationships.

We all are aware of scammers as intelligent woman and know what goes on with deception. We are not teenagers in puppy love making irrational
choices and you are not the self appointed guru on a mountain top that you may think you are, here to enlighten us.
You are insulting our intelligence if you think you will make anyone drop a petition because YOUR own marriage failed.

The atmosphere of this sub-saharan forum does not need negativity but encouragement and support in a warm environment. That is the purpose
of this visa journey site.
There is as I said the " effects....." section where situations are addressed such as what you experienced and to contain those issues to a separate forum.
By coming here and saying the sky is falling , the sky is falling you will accomplish nothing.

You posted a Happy New Years thread and in the same sentence started your " they only want green cards rant........."
Again on Valentines Day you posted negativity.
Holidays still rough for you ? Momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy ?
Why post this mess on every holiday ? Why post it in a thread of someone who just made a topic about a happy breakthrough in her journey ?
What is really YOUR motive here other than trying to sow discord between couples with doubt and accusations ?
It is like a toothache that won't stop and we are tired of it here. Please take it to the appropriate forum of divorce. There you can do some good maybe.
It just seems so out of place here among joyful and happy posters.
Three years ago you divorced, yet you are still here trying to sow doubt.
When will you realize that your attempts of co transfering and projecting and force feeding your personal experience onto us will not stop a single petition ?
When will you realize that we have a brain and have thought about pros and cons for ourselves ?
Noobies may be new to VJ but I find them to be intelligent, strong woman , very capable of making their own decisions.

If anyone has a problem I believe they would post in the correct forum for actual help on how or if to proceed.
This is an immigration site and not an ANTI AFRICAN immigration site.
I am not negating your pain and have told you before I am sorry you had to go through that..........just saying time to find a different approach.
I also believe it takes two to tango and you must take responsibility for your own choices, be accountable and stop the victim mentality.
You still sound like a victim, time to get strong and forget and forgive to open the door for new love in your live.
The horse has been dead long ago !


Idocare,

Just got back from a weekend get a way with my husband. Had a great time, and decided to catch up on VJ while we start to prepare for the week. WOW! I came back and saw all the commotion, so I kissed my husband good night, and popped some popcorn so I could take me time, and catch up.

Now ..... IMO I see why you've expressed yourself in such a manner. Having someone TELL YOU (other than the administrator) where to post your own posting can be frustrating. Especially when it seems as though we are always be "coached" to share only warm, fuzzy stories. But oh well - as you stated from the very beginning ......"if the message don't apply to you, then don't reply". Some people did anyway (guess I'm guility as well). Please continue sharing your message. It may not be for those that are reading at the moment. In the future it may be for them, or someone they know further down the line. Hope it never happens to me. Overall things are going well, but it's good to know about 'possible' signs just-in-case.

By the way, I understand why some of your recent postings have had such a frustrating tone. But remember .... don't let others throw you off track. You started this topic in a positive manner, and allowed others with different opinions to throw you off track. Ignore them. They DO NOT speak for all VJ members.

Boaz
QUOTE(Nagishkaw @ Feb 17 2008, 07:11 AM) *
QUOTE(idocare @ Feb 17 2008, 05:13 AM) *
Omoba,

Last I checked Captain Wok was the person overseeing this site. Why do you feel that you can control Sub Saharan did you buy it from Captain Wok ? At this moment I'm not understanding your post directed to me. From what I can see you have only been a member here since August 2006, and this is an open forum, Omoba your just a member here you have no right to tell me or anyone else where to post messages. How dare you, do you think if you told me to jump up and down that I would? Who do you think you are, I'll tell you who you are, you are a member of this forum and NOTHING more. I have been posting here since 2003 and never once have I seen your name as owner of this site, where do you get off susgesting that I post somewhere else.

Listen to me, your not the moderator for this site and if you were appointed a moderator you need to read about what's to be posted here and fall back into line as a member just like me, I don't know why you feel like you have the power to tell people where they should post, or talk about what you and others are so tired of reading. As long as I adhere to Captian Woks instructions I don't care what you and others are tired of, do I live for you ??? Are you sending me money and paying my bills ? No your not. So you have no right to open your mouth asking me to post somewhere else, I have been posting here before you knew this site existed and you think you can tell me something ?you may get away with that with some but not me, I'll never let YOU control me, nor will you ever have control of where I choose to post. What you do have control over is choosing not to read my post, especially if you already know what it's gonna be about, why do you continue to burden yourself with reading it? Hummm.

Noel kept telling people the ran is coming the rain is coming and there were some that listened to him and saved themselves, so If I choose to repost a message or how many times I decide to discuss my message on this open forum is my business.

I have yet to meet an intelligent person that will join somebody else's establishment then speak out as if they are the owner and try to run the show. A intelligent person will join the club already knowing that they are just a member, they will adhere by the rules of the club and not try to control something that they have no control over. they will go to a restaurant they enjoy eating at. A person that lacks intelligence will join a establishment then attempt to take over, they will think more of themselves then what they are, they will repeatedly go to a restaurant they feel has bad food and continously complain about the food.

If my post don't apply to you, why worry about it, there has been many that have experienced what I've experienced and there are some post ( not by me ) that thank me for posting, why do you continue to read my post, are you fishing for something ? I don't know why you feel the Sub-Saharan full of happy folks when I and others which fall within the sub saharan are at different stages in our VJ . Everybody from Sub Saharan isn't where you are therefore have different experiences to share. I'm not where your at on this journey, but I will tell my story even if it's not approving in some eyes, (my story is my reality ) As I was posting before your journey started what makes you think you have authority to tell me what to post. you and your click ( of friends ) really need to check yourselves and check the rules of the Sub- Saharan board. Your all members here, you don't run nothing, and you surely don't run me, nor do you have control over any thing I decide to post.

Actually I do know of one person that has decided to withdraw her petittion, but that was her decision , not mines, you Omoba don't know the many people that I talk to, nor do you know the many people that read my post, why do you think I continue to post, it's not for you but for the one's that decide to e-mail me because they can relate to what I'm saying. Heck your husband isn't even here yet, so I don't expect you to relate to me yet.

I never look to destroy a relationship, but like I have said, when one person in a relationship doesen't want the marriage to work, it won't, because the agendas weren't the same. You Omoba, are in AP, you don't know what will come off that plane once he arrives. You may say well we have a baby, well a baby didn't stop a medical doctor from leaving , I dought if it stops your husband if that's what he wants to do so. Actually you have no clue who is keeping your husband warm at nite. You call yourself Omoba, but the reality is that you don't know if your the second or third wife. I have posted in the Effects area, and I will continue to post wherever I desire, YOU won't dictact where I decide to share or provide information,nor will you dictate what information I share !!! While you and the others are sitting waiting for your men to arrive I can only guess that some of you will go down the same journey that I experienced, and Omoba, my feeling is that you will be within the group that will end up being deceived. I only hope that your women enough to post your story. Omoba will you post your story?

Omoba your on this site acting like you grew up with your husband and know him very well, you only know of what he (and others ) tell you. A scam wouldn't be a scam if it were detectable before it's too late. Although I'm wishing the best for everyone that petitions for an Alien to into the states, I'm at a place in this visa journey where I know that's not realistic.


Your post just put me in emotional shock! To behold that much intense impromtu freakout broke open my heart... for real. Sloppy finger pointing isn't giving you the kick it used to? Then might I suggest a few things that may help ( I would have asked for your permission to post, but my telepathic transmiter is currently out of range ) ...Fling imaginary lightening bolts from your