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robertlaird
I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice helpsmilie.gif

Robert
TracyTN
I'm very sorry to hear this. Have you married yet?
mullensgirl
If you are not married yet, if you dont marey within the alloted time then she will have to return home., i think but someone else here may be more knowledgable.
pax
Well, as bizarre as it might sound, don't jump to conclusions--confront her about it first.

If you know that something is up (and, I mean, it does seem pretty clear-cut, but you never know), you can try to inform ICE and/or put her on a plane home. But if she doesn't return to Colombia, if her intent is not to marry you, she cannot adjust to LPR status without marrying you, the original petitioner, within 90 days, anyway.

I'm sorry this had to happen--what a horrible feeling. sad.gif
raymaga
I'm very sorry to hear that this has happened to you. It seems like you were her "ticket" to the U.S. Hopefully, you will be able to get passed all this and get on with your life.

If you do not marry her within the 90 days of her entry, then she is not entitled to stay in the U.S., as that is the conditions of the K-1 Visa.

Good luck.

Billy
QUOTE(TracyTN @ Apr 26 2006, 02:49 PM) *

I'm very sorry to hear this. Have you married yet?


Hello Robert!!!

First of all, I am very sorry to hear about your situation. my thoughts to you is DON'T GET MARRY, if you are not marry yet. If you are not marry...there is nothing she can do to stay in the US. You have nothing to worry about. Best of luck to you...

Bill
Carol&Marc
AAAAAAAAAwwww robertlaird!!!!
What a shame... Im sorry... I watched all your process and I feel very bad that happened...
I think that if you didnt marry her yet, you wont have any responsabilities after the 90 day period... But, during this period, maybe you can have some trouble... Im not sure, someone here probably has better advice...

Good luck... rose.gif

Carol luv.gif
jpine
I would think INS may be able to help you out. One thing you need to be aware of is the following. I know that the reason the visa proccess has just changed ( i saw this on tv) is that a lot of women are coming to the states and as soon as they get here they say there (husband/boyfriend) beats them. And without any proof you are kind of in the SH*T so im not an expert on this at all but i think this needs to be reported to someone ASAP to get yourself off the hook.

later

QUOTE(mullensgirl @ Apr 26 2006, 03:52 PM) *

If you are not married yet, if you dont marey within the alloted time then she will have to return home., i think but someone else here may be more knowledgable.

rahma
I'm sorry to hear of your troubles rose.gif I hope this problem can be resolved.
nomanches
QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 02:48 PM) *

I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice helpsmilie.gif

Robert


Wow thats horrible man. sad.gif

But listen, if you guys havent got married and she is obviously not being honest with you, then really your obligations are over. Like others have said, she has to marry you within 90 days, and if she doesnt do that then she will be illegal here. Its not your fault and nothing will happen to you. I'd call ICE and let them know whats up and see what they tell you.

But if you buy her a ticket and she bolts from the airport or something, thats really not your problem.
Jenn!
QUOTE(raymaga @ Apr 26 2006, 03:55 PM) *


If you do not marry her within the 90 days of her entry, then she is not entitled to stay in the U.S., as that is the conditions of the K-1 Visa.



I got the impression from his post that Robert is well aware of this. The problem is that he thinks she's going to take off before he (or someone else) forces her to get on a plane back to Columbia.

The questions are: will Robert be held responsible for the affidavit of support?; will he be culpable in the eyes of DHS for aiding an illegal?;

What is his burden here?
Cygnet
QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 03:48 PM) *

I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country.

Robert


I'm sorry this has happened to you. Maybe you can start gathering evidence to back you up... make hard copies or save it.
missycuk2
So very sorry for you - definately confront her about it - use your intuition as well.

sorry biggrin.gif
Priscila and Christopher
QUOTE(nomanches @ Apr 26 2006, 05:07 PM) *

QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 02:48 PM) *

I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice helpsmilie.gif

Robert


Wow thats horrible man. sad.gif

But listen, if you guys havent got married and she is obviously not being honest with you, then really your obligations are over. Like others have said, she has to marry you within 90 days, and if she doesnt do that then she will be illegal here. Its not your fault and nothing will happen to you. I'd call ICE and let them know whats up and see what they tell you.

But if you buy her a ticket and she bolts from the airport or something, thats really not your problem.


Agrees!! Report what is going on ASAP and you won't have problems with law!

I'm sorry to hear that, though... Shame on her! That's why it's so hard for us that want to get married for love to get our visas... mad.gif

Be strong, dear... God bless you! good.gif
pax
QUOTE
I got the impression from his post that Robert is well aware of this. The problem is that he thinks she's going to take off before he (or someone else) forces her to get on a plane back to Columbia.

The questions are: will Robert be held responsible for the affidavit of support?; will he be culpable in the eyes of DHS for aiding an illegal?;

What is his burden here?


Nope, he's not liable for her support. And, at least for now, he can't be found guilty of aiding an illegal alien.

Basically, as long as they're not married yet, all he can do (short of putting her on a plane) is inform ICE and write it off as a hard lesson.
sukie175
Wow Robert so sorry to hear this first of all.

If you are not married, I personally would email the person she is professing her love to and enlighten them. Then I would stick her on the plane and accompany her until she is on the final flight back home!
Mand
QUOTE(Cygnet @ Apr 26 2006, 04:10 PM) *

I'm sorry this has happened to you. Maybe you can start gathering evidence to back you up... make hard copies or save it.



I agree with the above post, and I am so sorry Robert to hear of this. I remember reading your posts, and all you did. You were so excited for your new life and do not deserve this cruel treatment. My very best wishes for you.
Jenn!
QUOTE(Mand @ Apr 26 2006, 04:25 PM) *

I remember reading your posts, and all you did. You were so excited for your new life and do not deserve this cruel treatment.



Hope you're ok, Robert.
sad.gif
mrswooten4ever
No need for you to feel embarrassed Robert none of this was your doing, if you are sure of what she was doing , confront her with the evidence, report it and put her on a plane asap! Then pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again! luv.gif

Adele
KAA
Sorry about this Robert!!!!
Yes make 100% sure that this is the case, and send her back if so.
Smile!
QUOTE(sukie175 @ Apr 26 2006, 01:16 PM) *

Wow Robert so sorry to hear this first of all.

If you are not married, I personally would email the person she is professing her love to and enlighten them. Then I would stick her on the plane and accompany her until she is on the final flight back home!


Agreed!
robertlaird
we have not married yet
desert_fox
Wow..this sucks.

I assume that you meant that she is fleeing to be with someone who is already here in the US, and for some reason could not petition for her.

She is a grown adult. Let her flee all by herself at the other guy's expense.

Just report her to Immigration on what happened.

She thinks she can run off to some other guy....she is in for the big surprize. This guy will never be able to do anything to make her legal...never!!! you won.

She cannot adjust status to anyone else based upon the law. YOU ACTUALLY WON in the end.

Just make sure that you report her to the proper authority and let her go. sucks now but you will get the last laugh.

good luck to you.
Cristy
That really sucks. I would agree, she is the one who will not be following through and if she overstays that is on her.
babybunny
ohh I am sorry...
MaryandMian
I am so sorry to hear this and good luck. Will be praying for your strength during this difficult time.

Mary
rejane


I m so sorry to hear that.
I think you should report to immigration.
Best of luck in the decision you make.
Jaylen Brit
Man that's harsh sad.gif
Sorry to hear of it - follow the advice - inform ICE once you are sure of this situation and make sure she doesn't leave with anything of yours (credit cards, papers, IDs..). You're not obligated to put her on a plane, although it may the 'right' thing to do, to pay her fare home, and as you say it took her a while to get here, doubt she'll go meekly back.
You brought her here in all good faith - it's really not your fault - all you wanted was to be happy and she's (apparently) taken advantage. What goes around comes around man. Shame on her.
Yodrak
Robert,

If you book her a flight what makes you think she would get on the plane? She doesn't have to go to the trouble of running off in Houston, she can run off without having to first go to Houston. Forget an obligation for escort her out of the country, you don't have the authority to make her leave the country.

Which is why non-immigrant visa can be so hard to get in many countries and why consular officers can be so skeptical of visa applicants in some countries even in marriage-based visa cases. How people complain when that happens, but this is why it happens.

My advice is to notify USCIS and ICE, simply and unemotionally, with whatever facts (not suppositions) and documentation of those facts you have. Then walk away and let them do (or not) the job that you've dropped in their laps.

Yodrak

QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 03:48 PM) *

I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice helpsmilie.gif

Robert

Happy Bunny
I say put her azz on a plane before she leaves you....why? cos you never know...you don't want to come home and find all your chit gone. If she'll do what she's done to you, how do you know she won't do more?

I'm so sorry, btw sad.gif
Yodrak
Bill,

On the contrary, there are many things she can do to stay in the USA. Simply not leave for one.

Look around you - there are millions of people in this country who are not supposed to be here, but here they are and from the events of the past month it seems that they have a lot of supporters.

Yodrak

QUOTE(Billy @ Apr 26 2006, 03:55 PM) *

QUOTE(TracyTN @ Apr 26 2006, 02:49 PM) *

I'm very sorry to hear this. Have you married yet?


Hello Robert!!!

... If you are not marry...there is nothing she can do to stay in the US. ...

Bill

roi_aggie
It would be too easy to give advice to do all sorts of things, whether it be send her packing or try to resolve the problem. This has got to be a personal choice for you, and you need to follow your brain, not your heart.

Really sorry to hear about this, and good luck in the future.

robertlaird
She can't empty the house because my mom lives there. I need to confront her and see whats going on. I just got the remote setup no I can moniter computer from my work. I think I am still in Denial.
Indo_mommy
So sorry to hear that Robert. I agree with other poster that said "What goes around, comes around!"

Hope you'll be able to solve this problem. rose.gif

Maureen & James
000OOO000
You see the evidence for yourself so she's got no leg to stand on. She living a lie. Get rid of her and move on. She is just using you.
Nessa
not being nosy, but how did you guys meet? Did you get to know her well before you started the k1 process?
charles!
QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 04:50 PM) *

She can't empty the house because my mom lives there. I need to confront her and see whats going on. I just got the remote setup no I can moniter computer from my work. I think I am still in Denial.


ah crap. you have my sympathy on this. i do agree that you need to confront her and find out what is going on, but i suspect you won't enjoy hearing the truth, if such is even told to you. prepare yourself now for such.

best wishes
jasman0717
I am sorry to hear this, I have read many of your posts over the past several months and am very saddened for you. The only thing I can suggest is that you contact an official at the USCIS, maybe even a local office, and find out what is recommended. I wish you the best and Claudeth and I will pray for you. Good luck!
arwensun1965
QUOTE
Robert,

If you book her a flight what makes you think she would get on the plane? She doesn't have to go to the trouble of running off in Houston, she can run off without having to first go to Houston. Forget an obligation for escort her out of the country, you don't have the authority to make her leave the country.

Which is why non-immigrant visa can be so hard to get in many countries and why consular officers can be so skeptical of visa applicants in some countries even in marriage-based visa cases. How people complain when that happens, but this is why it happens.

My advice is to notify USCIS and ICE, simply and unemotionally, with whatever facts (not suppositions) and documentation of those facts you have. Then walk away and let them do (or not) the job that you've dropped in their laps.


QUOTE
Bill,

On the contrary, there are many things she can do to stay in the USA. Simply not leave for one.

Look around you - there are millions of people in this country who are not supposed to be here, but here they are and from the events of the past month it seems that they have a lot of supporters.

Yodrak



Robert I am so sorry for the situation that you have found yourself to be in, Yodrak is correct in his thinking of things, just tell the proper authorities and let the people who are trained for this deal with it. It is not your responsibility to eject Johanna out of the USA. Robert you are not married, do not marry Johanna, she is obviously using you. Get your life back on track, you have learned a very dear lesson my friend.

*Hugs*

Janice
Lisa and Phil
QUOTE(Yodrak @ Apr 26 2006, 06:35 PM) *

Robert,

If you book her a flight what makes you think she would get on the plane? She doesn't have to go to the trouble of running off in Houston, she can run off without having to first go to Houston. Forget an obligation for escort her out of the country, you don't have the authority to make her leave the country.

Which is why non-immigrant visa can be so hard to get in many countries and why consular officers can be so skeptical of visa applicants in some countries even in marriage-based visa cases. How people complain when that happens, but this is why it happens.

My advice is to notify USCIS and ICE, simply and unemotionally, with whatever facts (not suppositions) and documentation of those facts you have. Then walk away and let them do (or not) the job that you've dropped in their laps.

Yodrak



I am sorry about that. sad.gif
And I agree 100% with Yodrak. good.gif
Have faith and everything will be ok.


Robin28
Awww ! How very sad to hear such a tale ..... And after all that you have been through ! Some people have no shame .. sad.gif Not that i " know " exactly what you should do in this case .. i wouldn't be so fast to confront her if you already know the truth .. i would consider seeking legal council to be sure of your rights and responsibilities before any confrontation takes place ... it always best to be informed !! I can't begin to say how sorry for your situation i feel rose.gif star_smile.gif Best of luck ~

Robin ~
MrsBruce5
Robert,
I am sorry, and it does indeed suck.

Find out if it is the actual truth, and if you find her to be bogus, make a phone call immediately.
Then my friend, dust yourself off and get right back on the horse.

You are going to be OK.

((((((HUGS)))))

-Rose
Bstnguy
I am so sorry for you. Best wishes for you, however it all turns out.
calidreamer80
blink.gif Oh man, what a position to be in. That's horrible for your girl to do this to you. I hope you figure out something soon.
De & Al
that hurst, however please confront her about it.
I Quit
I think this calls for a trip to Disneyland. Pack mom and "fiancé" in the stationwagon and hit the road. LOL
djcess
QUOTE(pax @ Apr 26 2006, 11:55 AM) *

Well, as bizarre as it might sound, don't jump to conclusions--confront her about it first.



good.gif it's always best to clarify things.. Any good relationship should have love, honesty and respect. I'm very sorry to hear that though.. sad.gif
gsmaclean
QUOTE(robertlaird @ Apr 26 2006, 03:48 PM) *

I am embarressd to post time but my fiancee is here from Bogota and think here under false pretenses. I suspected something was up so I installed a software on my computer to track email and messenger. She is professing her love to someone and making plans to flee in the country. If I book here a return flight to Bogota do I need to escort her home. The flight has a connection in Houston. If her plan is to flee she could run at the airport or never make the connection in Houston is flying by herself. I can not belive this is happening but what is my responsibilty to make sure she leaves the country? Wow a almost a year to get a visa, and one week to find out it is all bogus.

Thanks for your help/advice helpsmilie.gif

Robert

I can't tell you what to do, but I CAN tell you exactly what I would do if I were in your position.

First: document, document, document. If you have evidence on the computer, record it. Print it out. Make sure it is datestamped. If there are phone calls on your phone bill, keep records of them. Do this on an ongoing basis, to build up as much evidence of what is going on as is possible. This is to protect yourself should she in future decide to claim abuse against you or some other method of legally staying in the US.

Second: Once you have no question of what is actually going on, confront her. Find out her intentions. You never know, she may decide to capitulate and stay with you - although whether or not you would want to stay with her would likely be in doubt.

Third: Contact USCIS. Tell them your situation. Describe to them the evidence you have. Tell them you expect her to flee and overstay. Tell them she entered using a fraudulent K-1, and that you are the unknowing USC petitioner. USCIS takes a VERY DIM VIEW of fraud. They will do one of three things:

- nothing
- deport her (probably expedited removal)
- charge her with fraud, and then deport her (probably expedited removal)

No matter what, protect yourself. Remember, you are the victim at this point, and you need to do everything you can to protect yourself. And the best way you have right now is to document EVERYTHING.
iceyspots
You should inform immigration IMMEDIATELY... I mean.. it's really clear cut and obvious fraud... I mean if she was here for some months and just lost interest in the relationship ... but... one week?? honestly.. it seems like she had it all planned out. Inform immigration immediately before she claims that you beat her !

QUOTE(MrsW2B @ Apr 26 2006, 04:33 PM) *

No need for you to feel embarrassed Robert none of this was your doing, if you are sure of what she was doing , confront her with the evidence, report it and put her on a plane asap! Then pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again! luv.gif

Adele


Noooo... bad.. dont confront her with the evidence, then she'll try to call the police saying he beat her !

QUOTE(LisaD @ Apr 26 2006, 05:38 PM) *

I say put her azz on a plane before she leaves you....why? cos you never know...you don't want to come home and find all your chit gone. If she'll do what she's done to you, how do you know she won't do more?

I'm so sorry, btw sad.gif


You have a good point there, if she schmoozled her way by frauding you, she'll schmoozle your stuff way from you too.... Find a ticket that will be a direct flight to Columbia, tell her you are taking her on a cross country shopping trip and drop her at the airport with no money and no food lol
Dixie_Peach
QUOTE(mianishqsrose @ Apr 26 2006, 05:18 PM) *

I am so sorry to hear this and good luck. Will be praying for your strength during this difficult time.

Mary


robertlaird... i concur with mary... i will be praying for you... and i am sooooooo sorry that this has happened.
God Bless,
Lynne
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