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abandoned
Well as ababdoned, I went to the police. It took them about 10 minutes to find her. She went to Canada. Don't know where that leaves me or USCIS. Maybe Tito has some ideas. Hard to believe that after 2 years of knowing someone so intimately, she would disappear in one afternoon with no warning. I think there is something to the Russian networt theory. She had to have had help. AND, the worst part, I want her back!!! STUPID i guess
garya505
QUOTE(abandoned @ Feb 5 2008, 06:08 PM) *
Well as ababdoned, I went to the police. It took them about 10 minutes to find her. She went to Canada. Don't know where that leaves me or USCIS. Maybe Tito has some ideas. Hard to believe that after 2 years of knowing someone so intimately, she would disappear in one afternoon with no warning. I think there is something to the Russian networt theory. She had to have had help. AND, the worst part, I want her back!!! STUPID i guess


Ya, STUPID headbonk.gif

But seriously, you should inform USCIS of what has happened and get a divorce ASAP.

William33
You should take action to protect yourself with USCIS assistance. Schedule an Infopass appointment now and set the record straight!

Something needs to be said about her departure from US soil. Clearly, this action is not consistent with the last thread.

In any case, all the best to you going forward.

tito
I would think that, if she left the country before getting a green card, she'll have a hard time coming back in UNLESS she (a) wants to, and/or (cool.gif got permission to travel already. If she is gone, then the departure would be tantamount to abandoning (!!!) the immigration process you started, and that would, as a consequence, mean that the "declaration of support" would be a nullity. Nevertheless, I would DEFINITELY pull the plug on the declaration of support by way of correspondence to that effect:

(i) you disavow the affidavit of support from its inception;
(ii) such that it is and always has been a nullity

Be sure to include on the correspondence: (i) name; (ii) country; (iii) A-Number; (iv) K-1 Visa Number; (v) her Russian passport number; (vi) case number from a Notice of Action; and (vii) any other identifying information.

Send it everywhere you ever had contact...where you submitted the application, all the places that touched it, including, but not limited to, sources of Notices of Action, where you did your interview (if you did one), National Benefits Center, and anyplace else.

Want her back, eh? I know what you're going through...after all that work, sacrifice, emotion, dedication, commitment, money...you're SURE you can make it work! I admire your courage and fortitude, but (NOTE: I AM TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT HERE...), it's likely to be the case that the only time you'll hear from her is if and when she needs money. Emotion, love, feelings, compassion, will not likely be a factor, so be a bit suspicious of sweet-talk. If she really DOES love you and want the relationship, she'll stick by you and be around. If not, she tries to sweet talk you and it doesn't work and she leaves, consider yourself lucky that she didn't sink her claws deeper into you before doing the exact same thing when she's good and ready.

Chances of rehabilitation of a relationship like this, given the totality of the circumstances, seem to me to be very, very sllight. Good luck! Go see a lawyer immediately. Check your personal message, too.
mtracksport
I agree that you had better notify someone right away. What i would like to know is how the police found out about her leaving so quickly , and where she went. They are not on the DHS data bank so they would not have any access to the coming's and going's of individuals at the borders, or any information at all about her unless she had commited a crime. where did the info come from ?? can you expand a little on that AL helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif
William33
QUOTE(mtracksport @ Feb 5 2008, 10:48 PM) *
I agree that you had better notify someone right away. What i would like to know is how the police found out about her leaving so quickly , and where she went. They are not on the DHS data bank so they would not have any access to the coming's and going's of individuals at the borders, or any information at all about her unless she had commited a crime. where did the info come from ?? can you expand a little on that AL helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif


Yes, DHS knows and tracks the status of every individual that enters US sovereign space.

Additionally, they track the travels of those that depart, to include their final destination. Make no mistake here; the USG tracks all entry/exit events of individuals transiting the United States. If legit, all is good. If not, you make the suspect list. This is the reality.








William33
QUOTE(mtracksport @ Feb 5 2008, 10:48 PM) *
I agree that you had better notify someone right away. What i would like to know is how the police found out about her leaving so quickly , and where she went. They are not on the DHS data bank so they would not have any access to the coming's and going's of individuals at the borders, or any information at all about her unless she had commited a crime. where did the info come from ?? can you expand a little on that AL helpsmilie.gif helpsmilie.gif


Yes, DHS knows and tracks the status of every individual that enters US sovereign space.

Additionally, they track the travels of those that depart, to include their final destination. Make no mistake here; the USG tracks all entry/exit events of individuals transiting the United States. If legit, all is good. If not, you make the suspect list. This is the reality.








mtracksport
READ MY POST AGAIN// i said the POLICE do not have access to the DHS DATA BASE. this is a fact/// not speculation AL
mtracksport
Yes, DHS knows and tracks the status of every individual that enters US sovereign space.

Additionally, they track the travels of those that depart, to include their final destination. Make no mistake here; the USG tracks all entry/exit events of individuals transiting the United States. If legit, all is good. If not, you make the suspect list. This is the reality.




i know from personal experience that they do not track all the people that come and go across the borders. during the summer i race stock cars in vancouver every month. i live in washington state and have not been stopped at all hauling my transporter and trailer. most of the time if you have washington plates they wave you through. that is the reality.
William33
QUOTE(William33 @ Feb 5 2008, 08:18 PM) *
You should take action to protect yourself with USCIS assistance. Schedule an Infopass appointment now and set the record straight!

Something needs to be said about her departure from US soil. Clearly, this action is not consistent with the last thread.

In any case, all the best to you going forward.


I again offer the previous advice. All the best to you.
pushbrk
QUOTE(tito @ Feb 5 2008, 08:31 PM) *
I would think that, if she left the country before getting a green card, she'll have a hard time coming back in UNLESS she (a) wants to, and/or (cool.gif got permission to travel already. If she is gone, then the departure would be tantamount to abandoning (!!!) the immigration process you started, and that would, as a consequence, mean that the "declaration of support" would be a nullity.


The OP's wife is a K3 visa holder. K3 is a multiple entry visa, so there is no need for advanced parole. She can re-enter the US as many times as she wishes for two years from initial entry.
tito
Oh - I missed that part - my bad.

But with a sister in the picture??? Sort of seals the case I was trying to make for the situation before.
zqt3344
What a mess this is going to be for Abandoned, hope it works out. Wish you best, and how you could want this person back is beyond comprehension, you better start protecting yourself and get over it fast before you get taken on a ride - Russian style. unsure.gif

QUOTE(tito @ Feb 6 2008, 02:33 AM) *
Oh - I missed that part - my bad.

But with a sister in the picture??? Sort of seals the case I was trying to make for the situation before.

mox
QUOTE(abandoned @ Feb 5 2008, 05:08 PM) *
Well as ababdoned, I went to the police. It took them about 10 minutes to find her. She went to Canada. Don't know where that leaves me or USCIS. Maybe Tito has some ideas. Hard to believe that after 2 years of knowing someone so intimately, she would disappear in one afternoon with no warning. I think there is something to the Russian networt theory. She had to have had help. AND, the worst part, I want her back!!! STUPID i guess

It's not stupid, it's natural.

There are many explanations as to what's going on. You seem to have grabbed hold of one of those possible reasons, which I hope hasn't blinded you to the fact that that is only one possibility in hundreds of thousands. Do what you can to make contact with her, and work things out from there. It may be that she's gone. Or it may be that she got mad, and then scared, and then depended on the wrong people. There are many *many* possible explanations. Don't grab on to the first one that someone throws out to you. Find out for yourself and go from there. There's nothing written in stone that says she isn't having second thoughts.

I do agree, however, that you need to also start thinking of protecting yourself should you be unable to contact or work things out with her. You've been given some good advice on that front, go with it. But do your best to find out what's really going on. You've invested too much time, money, and yourself to let it go without a fight.

QUOTE(tito @ Feb 5 2008, 10:33 PM) *
Oh - I missed that part - my bad.

But with a sister in the picture??? Sort of seals the case I was trying to make for the situation before.

Hardly. In fact, if she left the country is sort of...unravels the case. Bit difficult to get that green card from Canada. (and I don't recall hearing about a sister, but perhaps I missed a post.)

QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 5 2008, 11:05 PM) *
What a mess this is going to be for Abandoned, hope it works out. Wish you best, and how you could want this person back is beyond comprehension, you better start protecting yourself and get over it fast before you get taken on a ride - Russian style. unsure.gif

You're talking about a man's wife (and life) here, have some respect. And how about we start stfu'ing about making generalities about someone's nationality while we're at it, mmkay?
Jeraly
QUOTE(pushbrk @ Feb 6 2008, 06:22 AM) *
QUOTE(tito @ Feb 5 2008, 08:31 PM) *
I would think that, if she left the country before getting a green card, she'll have a hard time coming back in UNLESS she (a) wants to, and/or ( cool.gif got permission to travel already. If she is gone, then the departure would be tantamount to abandoning (!!!) the immigration process you started, and that would, as a consequence, mean that the "declaration of support" would be a nullity.


The OP's wife is a K3 visa holder. K3 is a multiple entry visa, so there is no need for advanced parole. She can re-enter the US as many times as she wishes for two years from initial entry.




Yeah - the OP's timeline says K3 although at the beginning of the "ababndoned" post that got locked down it was clarified after the OP said they had been married for two months that he had actually filed for K-1. I clarified that myself as I was confused but I think it got forgotten/overlooked towards the end of the thread whistling.gif

Perhaps the OP could change their timeline to be more accurate so it is easier to clarify and provide advice?
Krikit
A Russian citizen requires a visa to travel to Canada. Was there a Canadian visitor's visa in her passport?
Jenn!
QUOTE(Krikit @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 AM) *
A Russian citizen requires a visa to travel to Canada. Was there a Canadian visitor's visa in her passport?


Yeah, this is what I was thinking/ How the heck did she get into Canada? She must have been inspected since the police know that she crossed the border.

Hmm.
KGSodie
I completely agree with you, Mox. Guessing isn't the answer - get the facts and make as informed a decision as you can. People often do stupid things when under stress. I also agree we should always strive to curb the cultural slurs. America isn't the shining example of personal behavior, and every country as both good and bad people 'cause people are people!
Nanusia & Lukaszek
And the speculations continue until the OP comes back to clarify. wacko.gif That seemed to happen with the other post too. Is it a K1 or a K3, did she get the visa to Canada or didn't she.

To me what doesn't jive is the part about the police checking that she is in Canada. Unless she told them where she is going (to avoid a search for her) the Police can't check with DHS system on the whereabouts of people, they don't have access to it. My husband works in a police station, so he asked a detective about it. If he came to the police looking for her, they'd ask him to file a missing person's case, before giving out any info (if they had any that is). OP - was one filed?
wowswift
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Feb 6 2008, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE(Krikit @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 AM) *
A Russian citizen requires a visa to travel to Canada. Was there a Canadian visitor's visa in her passport?


Yeah, this is what I was thinking/ How the heck did she get into Canada? She must have been inspected since the police know that she crossed the border.

Hmm.


well, by the OP's posts, she had a US license and that's all you need most the time. really just depends on how the border person is feeling that day
mtracksport
Is it just Me or are there others that wonder about the validity of this post. Is it just stirring the pot?? too many statements don't add up. Is there a timeline to look at ? also the length of time in this forum? Plus the op is not posting after the original post to get things started. there is a lot of this going on right now to get people fired up . hope this is not the case and he truly needs help. (just my thoughts) whistling.gif whistling.gif AL
Jeraly
Mtrack - can't say the same hasn't occurred to me smile.gif
mox
QUOTE(mtracksport @ Feb 6 2008, 01:22 PM) *
Is it just Me or are there others that wonder about the validity of this post. Is it just stirring the pot?? too many statements don't add up. Is there a timeline to look at ? also the length of time in this forum? Plus the op is not posting after the original post to get things started. there is a lot of this going on right now to get people fired up . hope this is not the case and he truly needs help. (just my thoughts) whistling.gif whistling.gif AL

The thought has crossed my mind also. I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is being sincere until it becomes blatantly obvious otherwise.
mtracksport
Well i'm glad my mind is still working. I too will reserve judgement until later.. good.gif AL
PlatyPius
QUOTE(wowswift @ Feb 6 2008, 12:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Feb 6 2008, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE(Krikit @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 AM) *
A Russian citizen requires a visa to travel to Canada. Was there a Canadian visitor's visa in her passport?


Yeah, this is what I was thinking/ How the heck did she get into Canada? She must have been inspected since the police know that she crossed the border.

Hmm.


well, by the OP's posts, she had a US license and that's all you need most the time. really just depends on how the border person is feeling that day



Not any longer. Some bill or another passed recently that requires a US passport or US birth certificate to enter Canada.
mtracksport
things are a little different up here than what you read in the news. At the current time all you need is the Washington State drivers license to go and come. most of the time they will pass you through with wash. plates on your car or pick-up. I know people working in Vancouver that live in Birch Bay (just south of the Peace Arch- "Border") they never stop them. they are used to seeing them i guess. things are a lot more lax than down south
wowswift
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Feb 6 2008, 06:18 PM) *
QUOTE(wowswift @ Feb 6 2008, 12:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Jenn! @ Feb 6 2008, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE(Krikit @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 AM) *
A Russian citizen requires a visa to travel to Canada. Was there a Canadian visitor's visa in her passport?


Yeah, this is what I was thinking/ How the heck did she get into Canada? She must have been inspected since the police know that she crossed the border.

Hmm.


well, by the OP's posts, she had a US license and that's all you need most the time. really just depends on how the border person is feeling that day



Not any longer. Some bill or another passed recently that requires a US passport or US birth certificate to enter Canada.


well when i came, that was a requirement, but they don't ask. i offered the first time, the other time he didn't bother with it
truffles
This is what is currently being asked for - wether or not the border officers check absolutely everyone and everything i dont know?





"Starting in January 2008, U.S. citizens who are Washington State residents will be eligible to purchase an Enhanced Driver License for $15.00 more than a regular driver license. This EDL will meet the requirements for proof of citizenship to re-enter the U.S. from Canada and Mexico by land or sea. Many other states will soon have EDL available for their residents, check with your local DOL for more information. Further information is available at the Department of Licensing website. "

mox
QUOTE(truffles @ Feb 6 2008, 03:14 PM) *
This is what is currently being asked for - wether or not the border officers check absolutely everyone and everything i dont know?

"Starting in January 2008, U.S. citizens who are Washington State residents will be eligible to purchase an Enhanced Driver License for $15.00 more than a regular driver license. This EDL will meet the requirements for proof of citizenship to re-enter the U.S. from Canada and Mexico by land or sea. Many other states will soon have EDL available for their residents, check with your local DOL for more information. Further information is available at the Department of Licensing website. "

The question is regarding crossing from the US into Canada though. The US doesn't require any documentation to leave the country. What is Canada requiring for entry from the US?
abandoned
someone was saying I provided little information about my Russian wife sneaking off while I was at work. I thought I provided a pretty clear picture. What more do I need to say? I did find out one more thing. She fled to Canada. Where does that leave her legally anD with USCIS? She isn't answering my requests to talk, but the police were able to contact her through a friend of hers. They have all been a bunch of damned liars. I am starting to believe the stories about the conspiracies and the Russian network
YuAndDan
Report her to ICE and move on, USCIS will then have this record and will cause problems if she attempts to remove conditions.

http://www.ice.gov/

A good post on another site:

http://candleforlove.com/forums/index.php?...st&p=260004
diadromous mermaid
QUOTE(abandoned @ Feb 6 2008, 07:01 PM) *
someone was saying I provided little information about my Russian wife sneaking off while I was at work. I thought I provided a pretty clear picture. What more do I need to say? I did find out one more thing. She fled to Canada. Where does that leave her legally anD with USCIS? She isn't answering my requests to talk, but the police were able to contact her through a friend of hers. They have all been a bunch of damned liars. I am starting to believe the stories about the conspiracies and the Russian network

Although learning that she fled to Canada doesn't make it any easier for you on an emotional level, it might provide enough insight into her character to permit you to accept the real state of the relationship. From there, you can begin to address your feelings and try to consider whether you are being true to yourself in continuing to preserve any respect for her.

If you believe that she deceived you and induced you into marriage under false pretenses then you can simply withdraw any endorsement you have made of any adjustment of status application that is pending.

QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Feb 6 2008, 07:25 PM) *
Report her to ICE and move on


Please refrain from using the expression "move on". Unless you've walked in such shoes, it comes off as being somewhat cavalier. smile.gif
StillThePrettiest
hear HEAR to that last comment yes.gif
Nanusia & Lukaszek
QUOTE(abandoned @ Feb 6 2008, 06:01 PM) *
someone was saying I provided little information about my Russian wife sneaking off while I was at work. I thought I provided a pretty clear picture. What more do I need to say? I did find out one more thing. She fled to Canada. Where does that leave her legally anD with USCIS? She isn't answering my requests to talk, but the police were able to contact her through a friend of hers. They have all been a bunch of damned liars. I am starting to believe the stories about the conspiracies and the Russian network



Hmmm, for some reason this isn't adding up for me. I don't know how skilled your Florida police is, and that they were able to track a "friend" of hers and get info to your wife. huh.gif
mtracksport
and the plot thickens??????? kicking.gif these must be some good police???/
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