illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:12 PM
<EOM>
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 02:13 PM
dev you forgot the "i dont hate" option in the 1st q and the I dont like option in the 2nd
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:13 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:13 AM)

dev you forgot the "i dont hate" option in the 1st q and the I dont like option in the 2nd
fixed.
rkl57
Jan 21 2008, 02:14 PM
The previous poll results made me wonder if transgendered people were eligible for spousal visas - anyone know?
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 11:14 AM)

The previous poll results made me wonder if transgendered people were eligible for spousal visas - anyone know?
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 02:15 PM
The negation of hating her isn't liking her. It's not hating her.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:16 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:15 AM)

The negation of hating her isn't liking her. It's not hating her.
Gupt, the basic premise is there.
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 02:17 PM
I can't answer the 1st since i dont hate her nor do I like her
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:17 AM)

I can't answer the 1st since i dont hate her nor do I like her

well tough t*tties then.

Your vote won't count.
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 02:19 PM
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:22 PM
Funny that there are only women voting today, yet I'm SURE I've seen men reading this poll....
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 02:24 PM
I dont know about the other men but i couldnt vote due to the questions being flawed
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:25 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 AM)

I dont know about the other men but i couldnt vote due to the questions being flawed

Well, we better go find those 10 white women Hillary haters!

Goes to show how the haters will skew a poll to make their 'point'.
almaty
Jan 21 2008, 02:28 PM
white male..i like her.....
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(almaty @ Jan 21 2008, 11:28 AM)

white male..i like her.....
Wow, never knew that!
PlatyPius
Jan 21 2008, 02:29 PM
I'm male and I just voted as such.
Parivar CSK
Jan 21 2008, 02:38 PM
I don't hate her but also don't like her...so couldn't really vote. I don't like her personalty from what I've seen over the years and don't agree on a lot of her stances, but I wouldn't say I hate her, that is a strong word. I wouldn't wish ill towards her at all. I just don't want her to be my pres.
GaryC
Jan 21 2008, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 01:25 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 AM)

I dont know about the other men but i couldnt vote due to the questions being flawed

Well, we better go find those 10 white women Hillary haters!

Goes to show how the haters will skew a poll to make their 'point'.
Making excuses already? I just voted as a "white male".
rkl57
Jan 21 2008, 02:42 PM
Most women I know who don't like her seem to express this opinion much like stina - they don't agree with her and don't want her to be prez.
The ones with the pictures of silly and mildly offensive pictures of her in their siggys are all men - just a simple observation
charles!
Jan 21 2008, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 01:41 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 01:25 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 AM)

I dont know about the other men but i couldnt vote due to the questions being flawed

Well, we better go find those 10 white women Hillary haters!

Goes to show how the haters will skew a poll to make their 'point'.
Making excuses already? I just voted as a "white male".
zomg pink men voting!!111!!!!!!!!1111
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 03:13 PM
So did anyone finally figure out why white men are pink?
GaryC
Jan 21 2008, 03:15 PM
Lets see: 4 people like Hillary, two of which are white women. 17 hate Hillary, 12 of which are white women. Even if you discount half of the white women who hate Hillary and in reality they are white men this still shows your idea of only white men hating Hillary is nothing but your own prejudice.
SMOKE
Jan 21 2008, 03:17 PM
white male. hate her
rkl57
Jan 21 2008, 03:17 PM
strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
rebeccajo
Jan 21 2008, 04:03 PM
I don't see an option for 'don't give a damn one way or the other'.
sparkofcreation
Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:14 PM)

The previous poll results made me wonder if transgendered people were eligible for spousal visas - anyone know?
Yes if their birth certificates have been re-issued (normally done after gender-reassignment surgery). No if they're still biologically the sex they were born as. Assuming you mean a FTM person marring a woman or a MTF person marrying a man.
I have absolutely no idea why I know that ... might have been mentioned in an immigration news article at some point.
And as to the poll, I don't hate her, but I don't like her either. So I didn't answer. She irks me profoundly for no real reason, but I might vote for her if she were the final candidate depending on who the Republican is.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.

Well, it is an anonymous poll. You can't give people the option and then demand that they "out" themselves.
Maybe you scare them dev
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 03:20 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.

Well, it is an anonymous poll. You can't give people the option and then demand that they "out" themselves.
Maybe you scare them dev

I think the way it's answered speaks volumes about politics on VJ. And obvs another woman (OH HORRORS) does as well. It's so transparent it's pathetic.
Stina has always been vocal about not liking HIllary but even she said she didn't answer.
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 06:30 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:27 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 03:20 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.

Well, it is an anonymous poll. You can't give people the option and then demand that they "out" themselves.
Maybe you scare them dev

I think the way it's answered speaks volumes about politics on VJ. And obvs another woman (OH HORRORS) does as well. It's so transparent it's pathetic.
Stina has always been vocal about not liking HIllary but even she said she didn't answer.
I have an alternate take on what happened.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 06:35 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 03:30 PM)

I have an alternate take on what happened.
?
LaL
Jan 21 2008, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 05:27 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 03:20 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.
Well, it is an anonymous poll. You can't give people the option and then demand that they "out" themselves.
Maybe you scare them dev
I think the way it's answered speaks volumes about politics on VJ. And obvs another woman (OH HORRORS) does as well. It's so transparent it's pathetic.
Stina has always been vocal about not liking HIllary but even she said she didn't answer.
I voted, and I have been vocal about not liking her at all.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:12 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 05:27 PM)

QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 03:20 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 PM)

strange we haven't see many females lurking on the thread but many men
with a few exceptions I haven't seen female posters show the same level of vitriol towards Hill as the men
just saying
Only 4 white men hate her. Yet 14 women.
I'm pretty sure everyone who answered this answered honestly & for their own gender.
Well, it is an anonymous poll. You can't give people the option and then demand that they "out" themselves.
Maybe you scare them dev
I think the way it's answered speaks volumes about politics on VJ. And obvs another woman (OH HORRORS) does as well. It's so transparent it's pathetic.
Stina has always been vocal about not liking HIllary but even she said she didn't answer.
I voted, and I have been vocal about not liking her at all.
and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
LaL
Jan 21 2008, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
GaryC
Jan 21 2008, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM
QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
A.J.
Jan 21 2008, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
You have no proof
PlatyPius
Jan 21 2008, 11:17 PM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
I assume (there's that word again) that you have proof of your accusations against us (men) that we "pretended to be women" in your poll? I can say with certainty that I voted as a man and that I hate Hillary. I'm sure Gary did as well. Unless you have PROOF that people were "deceiving" the poll, then it didn't happen.
illumine
Jan 21 2008, 11:20 PM
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 08:12 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
You have no proof

No, i don't. It's clear as day though.
rkl57
Jan 22 2008, 01:10 AM
when the poll was started and aonly men are lurking in the thread but only "women" are voting, it was a valid conclusion to draw
GaryC
Jan 22 2008, 02:05 AM
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 21 2008, 10:17 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
I assume (there's that word again) that you have proof of your accusations against us (men) that we "pretended to be women" in your poll? I can say with certainty that I voted as a man and that I hate Hillary. I'm sure Gary did as well. Unless you have PROOF that people were "deceiving" the poll, then it didn't happen.
Forget it Platy. It's clear that she has some pre-conceived notions and nothing is going to change her mind. Any man that doesn't like Hillary hates her because she is a woman. In her mind it just can't be because we disagree with her politics or don't like her personality. I find it funny that people of her ilk paint us as prejudiced when in reality they are the prejudiced ones. They are pre-judging us as woman haters when in reality we just don't like her politics.
PlatyPius
Jan 22 2008, 07:51 AM
QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 22 2008, 02:05 AM)

QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 21 2008, 10:17 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
I assume (there's that word again) that you have proof of your accusations against us (men) that we "pretended to be women" in your poll? I can say with certainty that I voted as a man and that I hate Hillary. I'm sure Gary did as well. Unless you have PROOF that people were "deceiving" the poll, then it didn't happen.
Forget it Platy. It's clear that she has some pre-conceived notions and nothing is going to change her mind. Any man that doesn't like Hillary hates her because she is a woman. In her mind it just can't be because we disagree with her politics or don't like her personality. I find it funny that people of her ilk paint us as prejudiced when in reality they are the prejudiced ones. They are pre-judging us as woman haters when in reality we just don't like her politics.
Well, she obviously hates blacks. She'd rather vote for an evil woman who uses tears to win votes than for a black man. What a hater!
(If she can do it, I can too. Of course, I'll expect to be reported for it very soon...)
charles!
Jan 22 2008, 08:16 AM
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 10:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
yes, dev, this poll going south about hillary IS proof of a vast right wing conspiracy - of pink men.
charles!
Jan 22 2008, 08:18 AM
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 22 2008, 06:51 AM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 22 2008, 02:05 AM)

QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 21 2008, 10:17 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ Jan 21 2008, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 PM)

QUOTE(LaL @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM)

QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 21 2008, 06:13 PM)

and? The poll is flawed, bottom line.
I was replying to the insinuation that people who voted selected a gender not of their own. *shrugs*
I hear you. And I thank you for answering truthfully.
But those who have gone before have skewed it, sadly.
If that is true then where are the votes for Hillary from all these women? Your just making excuses because you don't like the result you got.
If the men answered honestly, instead of pretending to be women, we might have something to discuss.
I assume (there's that word again) that you have proof of your accusations against us (men) that we "pretended to be women" in your poll? I can say with certainty that I voted as a man and that I hate Hillary. I'm sure Gary did as well. Unless you have PROOF that people were "deceiving" the poll, then it didn't happen.
Forget it Platy. It's clear that she has some pre-conceived notions and nothing is going to change her mind. Any man that doesn't like Hillary hates her because she is a woman. In her mind it just can't be because we disagree with her politics or don't like her personality. I find it funny that people of her ilk paint us as prejudiced when in reality they are the prejudiced ones. They are pre-judging us as woman haters when in reality we just don't like her politics.
Well, she obviously hates blacks. She'd rather vote for an evil woman who uses tears to win votes than for a black man. What a hater!
(If she can do it, I can too. Of course, I'll expect to be reported for it very soon...)

i guess she won't give a brother a break
Sister Fracas
Jan 22 2008, 12:05 PM
well, last I checked, I was a white female and I don't hate Hillary. Don't like her that much either though. *shrug* For the sake of this thread, because my answer doesn't quite fit, I just said I like her since I'd go more that way than toward
hate.
Happy Bunny
Jan 22 2008, 12:09 PM
I voted, even though it's not a question of 'hate' for me at all. I dislike her for Prez...nothing more, nothing less.
I am insulted though by things like Citizens United Not Timid and the like. Attack her for her beliefs and actions...not because she's a chick.
illumine
Jan 22 2008, 12:25 PM
Lotsa whining in this thread, geez.
Get over yourselves.
Sister Fracas
Jan 22 2008, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(LisaD @ Jan 22 2008, 11:09 AM)

I am insulted though by things like Citizens United Not Timid and the like. Attack her for her beliefs and actions...not because she's a chick.
just shows how small-minded those that flock to it are....
Magenta
Jan 22 2008, 12:35 PM
I'm actually curious, how many women would vote for her JUST because she was a chick? Regardless of her policies?
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