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PlatyPius
QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 20 2008, 01:29 PM) *
For the BILLIONETH time, Barack Obama is not muslim

Heaven forbid we let facts get in the way of our opinions


Didn't you know that Islam is a secret society, kinda like Freemasonry? It's all very hush-hush. Obama intends to get elected, impose Sharia, then give everyone 60 days to revert to Islam or face death. Billary, on the other hand, merely wants to kill anyone who isn't male, impose liberal beliefs on everyone, and go to war with people but then deny she started it.
rkl57
Does this mean that if I once visited a mosque and went to homecoming dance muslim male in high school that I am a muslim too?


Just checking - in case I decide to run for president one day.
PlatyPius
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 01:37 PM) *
QUOTE(robinklake @ Jan 20 2008, 01:29 PM) *
For the BILLIONETH time, Barack Obama is not muslim

Heaven forbid we let facts get in the way of our opinions


Didn't you know that Islam is a secret society, kinda like Freemasonry? It's all very hush-hush. Obama intends to get elected, impose Sharia, then give everyone 60 days to revert to Islam or face death. Billary, on the other hand, merely wants to kill anyone who is male, impose liberal beliefs on everyone, and go to war with people but then deny she started it.


Fixed, since I didn't notice my typo until after the edit option was gone....
bakofoil
QUOTE(Mags @ Jan 19 2008, 08:37 PM) *
I don't care if he is Muslim or not, he seems pretty sincere to me. Just my 2cents.



Agreed, I think Obama is sincere and I hope he gets elected. His only problem, I feel, is that he lacks experience and sometimes that shows in his responses.

On a side note: I saw your sig and burst out laughing at your cats names. 'Schnorbitz' is a dead give away that you're english. Cute smile.gif
Alex+R
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 20 2008, 10:59 AM) *
PlatyPius: I simply stated my opinion ,nothing but that.If you don't like it-deal with it.
And keep childish comments like that to yourself in the future.
Nat


You made a bigoted comment, and IMO, you have to deal with the consequences of your bigotry. Don't expect not to take any criticism when you say something as ignorant, misinformed and inflammatory as what you said.
illumine
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LaL
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 19 2008, 01:59 PM) *
I believe he IS Muslim and has a plan.........and not a good one.


I hate to pick this post apart, however do you have some kind of source to back up your claim that he has a "plan" or is that fully, your belief ( I do realize you stated "you believe" BUT beliefs aren't usually pulled out of thin air, and if they are, I would bet that believing that way is actually more dangerous than the belief itself.)
Magenta
QUOTE(babblesgirl @ Jan 20 2008, 01:59 PM) *
On a side note: I saw your sig and burst out laughing at your cats names. 'Schnorbitz' is a dead give away that you're english. Cute smile.gif


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PlatyPius
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 20 2008, 02:29 PM) *
She doesn't like Muslims and therefore Platy can say she's racist?


I'm assuming you removed the message because you finally realized that nowhere did I say she was a racist. I'm pretty sure that "Muslim" isn't a race. Nor are the KKK (hence the white sale comment - sheets, ya know....) specifically racists....they hate Catholics, blacks, Mexicans, MUSLIMS, and basically anyone who isn't a white Christian. They're bigots, intolerant, discriminatory, and a hate group. I've read enough to know that "hate" plays into it in this case.


A.J.
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 04:18 PM) *
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 20 2008, 02:29 PM) *
She doesn't like Muslims and therefore Platy can say she's racist?


I'm assuming you removed the message because you finally realized that nowhere did I say she was a racist. I'm pretty sure that "Muslim" isn't a race. Nor are the KKK (hence the white sale comment - sheets, ya know....) specifically racists....they hate Catholics, blacks, Mexicans, MUSLIMS, and basically anyone who isn't a white Christian. They're bigots, intolerant, discriminatory, and a hate group. I've read enough to know that "hate" plays into it in this case.


Interesting points. If not 'racist', then bigot?

Does saying one hate Muslims or hate Christians or hate white liberals make one a bigot? I am sure it does.
MelindaandTarek
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 19 2008, 02:59 PM) *
OK here's MY personal and honest opinion.
If I was American and had the right to vote I would definitley NOT vote for him BECAUSE I believe he IS Muslim and has a plan.........and not a good one.
He may not,but I completley do not trust that man.And I would NEVER vote for any Muslim to be America's leader.And my SO and American friends see it the same way.
It actually scares me to think that a Muslim could be President of the USA.........


I appreciate your honesty however misguided it is.....Any reason why you would never vote for any Muslim....based soley on being a Muslim? Huh?! ..and what is his plan that you believe is not a good one?! Quite frankly I dont care if he is a Muslim or not...IMHO...I would settle to just begin by having an intelligent President....go figure...anywho...carry on...
PlatyPius
Obama's super-secret plan is this...

1. Get elected
2. Be the first (half) black President
3. Make government work FOR the people rather than against it.
4. Get re-elected.
A.J.
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Obama's super-secret plan is this...

1. Get elected
2. Be the first (half) black President
3. Make government work FOR the people rather than against it.
4. Get re-elected.

that sounds horrible protest6wz.gif
illumine
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 01:18 PM) *
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 20 2008, 02:29 PM) *
She doesn't like Muslims and therefore Platy can say she's racist?


I'm assuming you removed the message because you finally realized that nowhere did I say she was a racist. I'm pretty sure that "Muslim" isn't a race. Nor are the KKK (hence the white sale comment - sheets, ya know....) specifically racists....they hate Catholics, blacks, Mexicans, MUSLIMS, and basically anyone who isn't a white Christian. They're bigots, intolerant, discriminatory, and a hate group. I've read enough to know that "hate" plays into it in this case.



Assume (wrongly) all you want. You always do anyhow.
MelindaandTarek
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Obama's super-secret plan is this...

1. Get elected
2. Be the first (half) black President
3. Make government work FOR the people rather than against it.
4. Get re-elected.



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PlatyPius
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 20 2008, 08:50 PM) *
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 20 2008, 01:18 PM) *
QUOTE(devilette @ Jan 20 2008, 02:29 PM) *
She doesn't like Muslims and therefore Platy can say she's racist?


I'm assuming you removed the message because you finally realized that nowhere did I say she was a racist. I'm pretty sure that "Muslim" isn't a race. Nor are the KKK (hence the white sale comment - sheets, ya know....) specifically racists....they hate Catholics, blacks, Mexicans, MUSLIMS, and basically anyone who isn't a white Christian. They're bigots, intolerant, discriminatory, and a hate group. I've read enough to know that "hate" plays into it in this case.



Assume (wrongly) all you want. You always do anyhow.


I was giving you the benefit of the doubt... we all know why you REALLY do that - and it really IS a frequent habit for you. Kinda like hitting the "report" button.

I ALWAYS wrongly assume? Really? Do you know me well enough to say that?
(Hint: The answers are No, No, and No.)
Natashabrenda
oh ok I understand-People CAN NOT state their opinion on here WITHOUT being insulted.
Ya all think what you want,I know who I am,what I believe in,why I believe in it and my friends and family know it as well.
THAT counts for me,NOT ya all's opinion about me.Ever heared that phrase "Judging a book by it's cover!" There ya go,unless you KNOW me you can think any way you want to about me cause you don't KNOW.You're just assuming things about me.
Nat
tom&tata
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 21 2008, 01:24 AM) *
oh ok I understand-People CAN NOT state their opinion on here WITHOUT being insulted.
Ya all think what you want,I know who I am,what I believe in,why I believe in it and my friends and family know it as well.
THAT counts for me,NOT ya all's opinion about me.Ever heared that phrase "Judging a book by it's cover!" There ya go,unless you KNOW me you can think any way you want to about me cause you don't KNOW.You're just assuming things about me.
Nat


Talking about Obama, outside the possibility of him being a muslim, what else makes you do not want to vote him? If being muslim is the only thing you have against the person, aren't you judging him by his "cover" too?
PlatyPius
QUOTE(tom&tata @ Jan 21 2008, 07:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 21 2008, 01:24 AM) *
oh ok I understand-People CAN NOT state their opinion on here WITHOUT being insulted.
Ya all think what you want,I know who I am,what I believe in,why I believe in it and my friends and family know it as well.
THAT counts for me,NOT ya all's opinion about me.Ever heared that phrase "Judging a book by it's cover!" There ya go,unless you KNOW me you can think any way you want to about me cause you don't KNOW.You're just assuming things about me.
Nat


Talking about Obama, outside the possibility of him being a muslim, what else makes you do not want to vote him? If being muslim is the only thing you have against the person, aren't you judging him by his "cover" too?


Yeah..... that's irony writ large.
Paul Daniels
QUOTE(tom&tata @ Jan 21 2008, 07:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 21 2008, 01:24 AM) *
oh ok I understand-People CAN NOT state their opinion on here WITHOUT being insulted.
Ya all think what you want,I know who I am,what I believe in,why I believe in it and my friends and family know it as well.
THAT counts for me,NOT ya all's opinion about me.Ever heared that phrase "Judging a book by it's cover!" There ya go,unless you KNOW me you can think any way you want to about me cause you don't KNOW.You're just assuming things about me.
Nat


Talking about Obama, outside the possibility of him being a muslim, what else makes you do not want to vote him? If being muslim is the only thing you have against the person, aren't you judging him by his "cover" too?


Whatever Obama's religious affiliations, I don't see him as a "fundie" or being led by the nose by his religious beliefs, the way Mike Huckabee seems to be. If the candidate is moderate, doesn't want to mandate public policy on the basis of his beliefs I could really care less about what he believes in.
rebeccajo
You know what I don't understand?

Why anyone would believe the man is Muslim when 1) he says he is not and 2) it's been investigated by independent sources and they verify that he is not.

Now, irregardless of what anyone thinks of Muslims or their 'agenda', given the above facts why would anyone still believe the man is of another faith than what he claims?
Alex+R
It's interesting, but I was just reading that now the neo-Nazi movement in Germany is focused on anti-Muslim activity.
A.J.
QUOTE(Alex+R @ Jan 21 2008, 01:33 PM) *
It's interesting, but I was just reading that now the neo-Nazi movement in Germany is focused on anti-Muslim activity.

Makes perfect sense. Turk Muslims are the largest minority group in Germany afaik.
just_Jackie
Was he at any time a practicing muslim?

J rose.gif
Paul Daniels
QUOTE(rebeccajo @ Jan 21 2008, 10:58 AM) *
You know what I don't understand?

Why anyone would believe the man is Muslim when 1) he says he is not and 2) it's been investigated by independent sources and they verify that he is not.

Now, irregardless of what anyone thinks of Muslims or their 'agenda', given the above facts why would anyone still believe the man is of another faith than what he claims?


I wonder if any of this is coming from any of the other candidates as its hard to believe that this could be officially sanctioned by anyone (unofficially of course...) - but then again we've seen a lot of smears against candidates, and obviously its nothing new to this election campaign.

It sounds like they want to create doubt about Obama by linking him with Islam - and probably not forgetting that his name is one letter off of Osama - though if anyone can be really stupid enough to buy that...

If I had to guess I'd say someone affiliated to some church group or other is propagating this stuff.

I read the other week that someone was making snide, slanderous comments about John McCain's POW experiences and conduct during the Vietnam war.
A.J.
QUOTE(just_Jackie @ Jan 21 2008, 01:45 PM) *
Was he at any time a practicing muslim?

J rose.gif

He says no.

If he ever was, that would make him an apostate. An apostate president would be a great idea during our war against islamofacists jest.gif
Parivar CSK
To be honest, I like when someone's name sounds opposite of their religion. It proves you shouldn't assume someone's religion by their name or ethnicity.
charles!
QUOTE(VJ Troll @ Jan 21 2008, 12:48 PM) *
QUOTE(just_Jackie @ Jan 21 2008, 01:45 PM) *
Was he at any time a practicing muslim?

J rose.gif

He says no.

If he ever was, that would make him an apostate. An apostate president would be a great idea during our war against islamofacists jest.gif

yeah that should go over real well good.gif
MelindaandTarek
QUOTE(PlatyPius @ Jan 21 2008, 07:45 AM) *
QUOTE(tom&tata @ Jan 21 2008, 07:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Natashabrenda @ Jan 21 2008, 01:24 AM) *
oh ok I understand-People CAN NOT state their opinion on here WITHOUT being insulted.
Ya all think what you want,I know who I am,what I believe in,why I believe in it and my friends and family know it as well.
THAT counts for me,NOT ya all's opinion about me.Ever heared that phrase "Judging a book by it's cover!" There ya go,unless you KNOW me you can think any way you want to about me cause you don't KNOW.You're just assuming things about me.
Nat


Talking about Obama, outside the possibility of him being a muslim, what else makes you do not want to vote him? If being muslim is the only thing you have against the person, aren't you judging him by his "cover" too?


Yeah..... that's irony writ large.



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