QUOTE(Kazan @ Jan 17 2008, 03:09 PM)

I understand what you are saying. I'm not advocating personal attacks on members. I'm for free expression in any adult forum which VJ is. I do not see anything wrong with members using choice words to indicate a distaste for a public figure or entity. I'm sure many, on occasion, would like to say the USCIS can kiss my... without having to alter spellings or use weaker words. Of course, I would not find it appropriate to call a fellow VJer a MFer or what ever. That is wrong, but, yes, sometimes, I would like to call the rapist mentioned in a different thread those words!
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Jan 17 2008, 02:51 PM)

I wasn't really comparing VJ to work.. was just tying to make the point that in the "real world" we don't say everything we want to say because we will now it will hurt or offend someone...
yeah, I am all for letting loose but I don't think it should be done at the expense of other people's feelings...
QUOTE(Kazan @ Jan 17 2008, 11:45 AM)

There should always be places where a person can speak their mind without censorship. The work place is hardly a fair comparison to VJ. A bar is closer. So what's wrong with having a place here where people can say what's on their mind. It's healthy to let lose from time to time.
QUOTE(MarilynP @ Jan 17 2008, 02:36 PM)

I just wanna know summfin...
would you say whatever you want in the work place?? would you say whatever you want to that person in the bar??
most of us have an internal censor in the real world... we don't say what we want to say because we know it will hurt or offend someone....
but it seems like the internet is fair game and people can say what they want to say regardless of how it will make someone feel....

Not to get too nit-picky, but is VJ really a true adult forum? It's been so long since I signed up that I don't remember if you had to click that you were 18 in order to join. I don't recall that. If it was there, someone let me know.
But this is a family immigration board, so I don't see why younger people couldn't be on looking for help even if it's to help their own parents.
I think OT is more obvious a name for a place where anything goes, but I don't see why there shouldn't be any censorship when anyone can be reading not just adults. I don't know why we'd assume that only adults can read VJ.
I don't curse so I don't have a need for those words to be uncensored(yes you can live life without cursing lol), though I know most people do use those words all the time. Vj isn't a complete "let loose" place, maybe OT is or the general topic areas. It's an immigration help forum. I think some other kind of forum would be a better place to let loose in every way.