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Jeraly
DEBZ!!!! MISS YOU HUNNY!!!!!

Know what it is like with the wedding thing (wedding planners are AWESOME!!) and know that you can't get online much til you get the net sorted at your place wink.gif

I know what you mean with the time thing too - when I was in the US in Feb it felt like I could have been there forever smile.gif I guess that is one way of settling in smile.gif

*HUGE HUGS*

Can't wait to see you back here properly wink.gif
Scott and Marta
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 26 2008, 01:36 AM) *
YAY!!!!! Now we just need to decide: do we use the notice date on the hard copy? Or do we use the date received for our AOS spreadsheet?!?! Personally I think it should be the Notice date on the hard copy as that is what they ask for on the VJ timelines so can people check their AOS section to make sure I have the right date?! I haven't bothered e-mailing people for updates yet - am still working on the K- sheet!!

Yeah smile.gif Changed it in our timeline already good.gif
Jeraly
Ok - official then - on the spreadsheet we'll use the notice date as on the hard copy wink.gif
BabyBlueSusie
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 26 2008, 01:58 PM) *
Kinda like that although our system is crazy - to get a 1st class you need 70% - I don't think it means it is easier than you getting an A, just that the way the % works is different - I don't really see the point of having a top 30 percentile that doesn't alter the grade you get but there you go... They changed it all here in the UK - now you get:

A - 1st class - 70%+
B - 2:1 (2nd class, 1st division) - 60%-69%
C - 2:2 (2nd class, 2nd division) - 50%-59%
D - 3rd class - 40%-49%

Anything less than that is a fail. A 2:2 is known as a "drinker's" degree - ie you spent more time on the beer than studying - it's not horrendous but not preferable as a general rule. A 2:1 is kinda your average - it's seen as a decent final grade by an employer and I think (although am going by guesswork) that most people get this. A 1st is pretty tough to get and sometimes can be detrimental to getting employment as employers feel they might have to pay out more money... again - this is just what I have heard (I got a 2:1 tongue.gif).

I would have loved a 1st and I was soo surprised and pleased when I got them for my dissertations (which are all bound up with covers and look really cool luv.gif ).

For a BA which is what I have you generally have to do a dissertation. Because of my crazy degree I had to do two - one about general primary teaching/current issues and one about my subject specialism and primary teaching (art & design). These were shorter though and totalled I think (if I count the words I wrote but didn't include whistling.gif ) nearer 11k-12k words. I am sure for a MA or PhD they are much longer smile.gif

I'd love to go back and study but I just don't think I could afford it... I would love to just learn all the time and get paid to do it but I don't think I'd enjoy it so much then laughing.gif I want to feel like I am progressing so the next thing would be a MA... who knows... maybe in a few years when wee find our feet smile.gif


cool, sounds like the systems are very similar except for the actual percentages...sounds like you BA may or may not have been a little more intense than mine whistling.gif lol but i will pay my dues when im writing all those words for my masters and phd blush.gif

i love learning, but i find that i always appreciate it more when im not doing it (ie: where i am currently working monotonous, brainless tasks all day long)...absence really does make the heart grow fonder...

just like i said to julez, i absolutely cannot afford to study, but i got a wonderful break working as a teaching/research assistant, so my tuition is waived and i get paid a stipend by the school!! woot woot kicking.gif
Jeraly
That is really cool smile.gif

I think my degree was pretty intense because you have your specialist subject but you also have to learn how to teach all subjects - a lot of people think that that is easy when it is elementary but it so isn't!!!
StillThePrettiest
that's because a lot of people STILL think 'knowledge of a subject' is the same as 'ability to teach that subject' mad.gif

makes me SO annoyed wacko.gif
Scott and Marta
Yeah there are lots of different types of teachers...some of them are like genius and know everything possible about the stuff they are teaching but they donīt have the ability to explain it to the kids in a way that they get it. So itīs not easy at all no0pb.gif
StillThePrettiest
when I was teaching foreign languages it used to baffle me how often someone would be automatically considered the best candidate because they were a native speaker of that language... quite apart from the fact that specially if you're teaching beginners, being a native speaker can often be a bit of a drawback - you don't know the pitfalls, or where misunderstandings are going to arise, and you probably haven't applied system and method to your learning of that language so it will be harder to help your students do that - it just seems a nonsensical assumption; we don't apply this to our own language; you don't just go and get some random English-speaker off the street and expect them to be better at teaching English than someone who has TRAINED to learn, and to teach
Jeraly
Haha - I know plenty of native English speakers who would be terrible - I'm not perfect (although I do try tongue.gif) but the grammar you hear sometimes... ohmy.gif
BabyBlueSusie
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 27 2008, 01:45 AM) *
when I was teaching foreign languages it used to baffle me how often someone would be automatically considered the best candidate because they were a native speaker of that language... quite apart from the fact that specially if you're teaching beginners, being a native speaker can often be a bit of a drawback - you don't know the pitfalls, or where misunderstandings are going to arise, and you probably haven't applied system and method to your learning of that language so it will be harder to help your students do that - it just seems a nonsensical assumption; we don't apply this to our own language; you don't just go and get some random English-speaker off the street and expect them to be better at teaching English than someone who has TRAINED to learn, and to teach


true that...i think learning a second language also makes it much easier to teach english, because you can better understand the students' train of thought...a monolingual, native english speaker with no training would most likely be a terrible ESL teacher....at least in the beginning because people always tend to oversimplify their native language
mox
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 26 2008, 10:45 PM) *
when I was teaching foreign languages it used to baffle me how often someone would be automatically considered the best candidate because they were a native speaker of that language... quite apart from the fact that specially if you're teaching beginners, being a native speaker can often be a bit of a drawback - you don't know the pitfalls, or where misunderstandings are going to arise, and you probably haven't applied system and method to your learning of that language so it will be harder to help your students do that - it just seems a nonsensical assumption; we don't apply this to our own language; you don't just go and get some random English-speaker off the street and expect them to be better at teaching English than someone who has TRAINED to learn, and to teach

My Russian tutor is a native Russian speaker and holds degrees in both Russian and is in the middle of her English degree. She's a really good teacher, but I know what you're saying about the drawbacks of being a native speaker. Sometimes she'll make certain assumptions that I have no clue about, and we kind of have to stop, back up, and work through the misunderstanding. She's good enough that it doesn't happen often enough, but it does happen.

On the other hand, the fact that she's a native speaker gives me great insight into how the language is actually spoken. We'll be going through some materials, reading a sentence or something, and she'll tell me that a certain sentence or word is grammatically correct, but here's how real Russians say it these days. (and I'm not talking about slang here, but more about how language just naturally morphs.)
Jeraly
That sounds really cool - I am so jealous!! I want to learn a language too!!! I'd love to learn Japanese but I'm not sure where I would start!
rae_and_scott
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 27 2008, 12:04 PM) *
That sounds really cool - I am so jealous!! I want to learn a language too!!! I'd love to learn Japanese but I'm not sure where I would start!

You could start for free by downloading podcasts. I don't have time in my schedule right now to go to a class or have a tutor so I have been trying to learn Portuguese by listening to a few different podcasts. It's really not the best method at all (I used to have a private tutor and that was great), but it's definitely a starting point. biggrin.gif
And I agree with what you all have said about how some people can know their stuff but that doesn't necessarily make them good teachers. I had so many bad teachers in my program in college! It was frustrating.
StillThePrettiest
mox, she sounds great smile.gif

but note that I said 'often' - the exceptions to what I said, above, are the sort of people you describe, both natural teachers AND highly versed in the subject at hand... in my experience they don't come along very often wink.gif
mox
QUOTE(rae_and_scott @ Mar 27 2008, 09:55 AM) *
You could start for free by downloading podcasts. I don't have time in my schedule right now to go to a class or have a tutor so I have been trying to learn Portuguese by listening to a few different podcasts. It's really not the best method at all (I used to have a private tutor and that was great), but it's definitely a starting point. biggrin.gif
And I agree with what you all have said about how some people can know their stuff but that doesn't necessarily make them good teachers. I had so many bad teachers in my program in college! It was frustrating.

A tutor or classroom instruction is of course the absolute best. The worst is going to Borders and picking up a phrase book for tourists. I've done both. smile.gif

I used to recommend Rosetta Stone to those who can't (for whatever reason) do a class or tutor. I've done that as well too, but now that I've been working with a tutor, the shortcomings of Rosetta Stone are glaring. Rosetta's claim to fame is that they teach you like children learn the language. So they give you a picture and then a word or phrase. No grammar, just the picture, phrase, and an audio clip of the word or phrase being said. You're supposed to contextually figure out what the word or phrase means. For learning some vocabulary, it's not bad. It's when you start getting into more complicated situations that can only really be explained through grammar that it self destructs. I hit a point where the way the words changed seemed completely arbitrary and incomprehensible. It forced me to memorize instead of understand. And since Russian depends on suffixes (and really complicated suffix rules) to build sentences, it just got to be too much. Maybe it works better with Latin-based languages, dunno, but I'd think Japanese on Rosetta Stone would be a disaster too.

Anyway, that's my language rant for the day. smile.gif

QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 27 2008, 10:09 AM) *
mox, she sounds great smile.gif

I'm really lucky to have met up with her. I was initially going to go with another woman, but every time I tried to schedule something with her she would never return my call. This was a couple months ago, and yesterday I got a voicemail from her saying "hey sorry, I've been busy, do you want to schedule a lesson sometime?" lol.

QUOTE
but note that I said 'often' - the exceptions to what I said, above, are the sort of people you describe, both natural teachers AND highly versed in the subject at hand... in my experience they don't come along very often wink.gif

Yep yep. Don't disagree with a thing you said. Was just using my own experience to demonstrate your point about the disadvantage of having a native speaker. My tutor has a better handle on English grammar than most native speakers, and we still occasionally run into the issues you mentioned.
Jeraly
I wouldn't have a clue how to start learning Japanese because they don't use a western alphabet - I am guessing it would be similar to learning Russian although at least Russian has discernible characters!!

I mentioned to Jeremy a while back that I wondered whether Japanese children had spelling tests and how did they do them!? laughing.gif
mox
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 27 2008, 12:31 PM) *
I wouldn't have a clue how to start learning Japanese because they don't use a western alphabet - I am guessing it would be similar to learning Russian although at least Russian has discernible characters!!

Well, it doesn't look easy, that's for sure.

The Russian (Cyrillic) alphabet is actually very easy to learn. I'm a slow learner and I had it down in under a week. Kanji looks like it could take much longer.

QUOTE
I mentioned to Jeremy a while back that I wondered whether Japanese children had spelling tests and how did they do them!? laughing.gif

LOL! biggrin.gif
Jeraly
You laugh but seriously - how else do Japanese children end a Friday afternoon!?!? laughing.gif
StillThePrettiest
they make paper cranes wink.gif
Jeraly
Awww... and if they are rubbish they have to repeat them all weekend then get re-tested on Monday!?
rae_and_scott
The good ones get sent into space.

http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top...ias/money/cm/nw

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Jeraly
Japanese rocket scientists!? laughing.gif
mox
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 27 2008, 01:46 PM) *
Japanese rocket scientists!? laughing.gif

Sure. Because, you know, they're good at math. tongue_ss.gif
lisalu100
OK, so I need some help on the whole "movig to America" front. I feel like I am missing something! Everyone keeps asking if I have everything ready/ I must be so busy, but aside from soialising with people I wont see for a while, and throwing the few items I have left into a couple of suitcases, what do I have to do?

Most of my stuff is already in Baltimore, because I have taken whatever I could do without on every trip (and then brought it back again as the seasons changed and I still didn't have my visa rolleyes.gif ).

I have filled out the paperwork for my car (I wrote it off with three weeks to go. Oops, good job Marty bought me one over there before I told him!)

I have handed in my notice at my jobs, and had my hen party (very important, no?).

I've been living with my parents, so I'll just stop the standing order for rent, and I want to keep my bank accounts open, as I still have loans to pay off blush.gif .

I have booked my flight, and got my visa FINALLY)

Umm, anything else? Is there anything I can do now, to make things easier/quicker once I get to Baltimore?
StillThePrettiest
sounds like you've got most things covered smile.gif

my biggest headache is shipping, because we've decided to bring a lot of my lovely furniture smile.gif

otherwise I don't think there's a lot... cancel standing orders (including Oyster card auto top-up), cancel memberships (goodbye Tate and Royal Academy sad.gif ), cancel mobile phone, get bank statements put online (don't want to close my accounts either wink.gif ), do final tax return, that sort of stuff... nothing that takes all that much time smile.gif

I'd say enjoy the time you have and don't stress biggrin.gif
lisalu100
MOBILE PHONE!!!!!>...... Thanks.
StillThePrettiest
I have just come in to say -

I bloody well HATE those meez things; they belong in the Special Hell blink.gif

my apologies to anyone who likes them; you exercise your right to have a meez good.gif

but I'll exercise my right to throw virtual eggs at the screen every time I see one
Jeraly
QUOTE(lisalu100 @ Mar 28 2008, 01:08 PM) *
MOBILE PHONE!!!!!>...... Thanks.


laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif I have a pay as you go so I will keep it as I can use it in the UK then smile.gif

Sounds like you have it all covered - I feel like I have so much to do but then I think it is because I don't even have my visa yet or my interview or anything - I haven't packed anything, I need to sell bunches of stuff but am waiting for car boot sale season... I can't wait to have an empty room and packed cases!! Although I will prolly be a bit sad then too sad.gif

QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 28 2008, 01:09 PM) *
I have just come in to say -

I bloody well HATE those meez things; they belong in the Special Hell blink.gif

my apologies to anyone who likes them; you exercise your right to have a meez good.gif

but I'll exercise my right to throw virtual eggs at the screen every time I see one


Hahah smile.gif I think they are kinda cute actually but if you create one you can actually get the bb code for the (much) smaller animated version which I swear would be much less imposing - having to scroll down for ten years because of a giant picture is kinda annoying but I am sure if they were swapped for the smaller versions then they would be fine smile.gif
mox
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 28 2008, 06:09 AM) *
I have just come in to say -

I bloody well HATE those meez things; they belong in the Special Hell blink.gif

my apologies to anyone who likes them; you exercise your right to have a meez good.gif

but I'll exercise my right to throw virtual eggs at the screen every time I see one

I hate those things too. The good news (for me) is that I haven't seen one in weeks. If you use Firefox, just right click on the image and select the option to block images from that website. You'll still see everyone else's signature but you won't see the Meez. You might have to do it on a couple different signatures as I think they use multiple servers. If you're using Safari I think it has the same option. If you're using IE...well...enjoy your Meez. biggrin.gif
StillThePrettiest
Firefox at home; IE at work wink.gif

partial rescue wink.gif
rae_and_scott
What did I miss? What's a meez?
unsure.gif
Jeraly
It's those little animated people at the bottom of siggies - they really slow my puter down which sucks but I don't understand why people don't use the smaller versions!!
mox
You can also turn signatures off completely by going into My Controls and then Board Settings. That disables everyone's signatures, so it's not a perfect solution either. Too bad you can't turn off signatures per-user.
*julez*
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 28 2008, 09:09 AM) *
I have just come in to say -

I bloody well HATE those meez things; they belong in the Special Hell blink.gif

my apologies to anyone who likes them; you exercise your right to have a meez good.gif

but I'll exercise my right to throw virtual eggs at the screen every time I see one


I also loathe them! They are always engaged in such stupid motions. It bugs the heck out of me. They are creepy and unnatural.

Just MHO. I'm not asking anyone to stop using them, just adding to a vent that I think has validity! wink.gif

QUOTE(mox @ Mar 28 2008, 11:33 AM) *
You can also turn signatures off completely by going into My Controls and then Board Settings. That disables everyone's signatures, so it's not a perfect solution either. Too bad you can't turn off signatures per-user.


That's a good idea moxie, cos generally speaking, I really like to see siggies. I find the ones with timeline info to be useful, as well as those who have cool/helpful links. I just hate meez and people who have oversized pics that force me to scroll from side to side.
Jeraly
I do agree on the oversized pics - I think the meez are cool but I must admit the large size is offputting. I do like the little tickers and I like the helpful links and timelines as well as the small-but-cute piccies... Maybe we could have an option to block siggies per user...

Ok - now who is going to suggest it in the suggestions forum?! biggrin.gif
rae_and_scott
Totally agree on hating the oversized pics! Especially while I'm at work and trying to make it look like I'm working. ph34r.gif
mox
Oh...and timely discussion. I just had to block yet another one, and thought maybe the meez service had added another server. But no. For some inexplicable reason, the poster had uploaded their image to Photobucket. Which means I have to block Photobucket now. *sigh*

This, by the way, was one of the small ones you were talking about Aly. I agree that it's not as obnoxious, but it's still pretty annoying. The problem for me is the animation. It's a constant distraction. Unless the moving image *is* the object of my attention (such as if I'm watching YouTube), animated images are rude and distracting.

And another browser tip: If you press the ESC key in most browsers (haven't checked Opera), animated images on that page will stop their animations. This is temporary though. If you refresh the page or navigate to another page with animated images, they will animate. I don't know of a setting in any browser that lets you turn off animations persistently. Maybe there's a Firefox plugin.
*julez*
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 28 2008, 12:22 PM) *
Ok - now who is going to suggest it in the suggestions forum?! biggrin.gif


*nominates mox*

QUOTE(rae_and_scott @ Mar 28 2008, 01:08 PM) *
Totally agree on hating the oversized pics! Especially while I'm at work and trying to make it look like I'm working. ph34r.gif


word. tongue_ss.gif
mox
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 28 2008, 10:25 AM) *
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 28 2008, 12:22 PM) *
Ok - now who is going to suggest it in the suggestions forum?! biggrin.gif


*nominates mox*

Dammit, I knew that was going to happen! biggrin.gif

Okay, posted. Now fly my pretties and go "ME TOO!" it!
*julez*
QUOTE(mox @ Mar 28 2008, 01:49 PM) *
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 28 2008, 10:25 AM) *
QUOTE(Jeraly @ Mar 28 2008, 12:22 PM) *
Ok - now who is going to suggest it in the suggestions forum?! biggrin.gif


*nominates mox*

Dammit, I knew that was going to happen! biggrin.gif

Okay, posted. Now fly my pretties and go "ME TOO!" it!


Already have posted my support mox! good.gif

Thanks for being such a team player!! tongue.gif
CBR
QUOTE(mox @ Mar 28 2008, 09:04 AM) *
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 28 2008, 06:09 AM) *
I have just come in to say -

I bloody well HATE those meez things; they belong in the Special Hell blink.gif

my apologies to anyone who likes them; you exercise your right to have a meez good.gif

but I'll exercise my right to throw virtual eggs at the screen every time I see one

Completely agree! I have a hard time reading when I'm so annoyed by those things. I really don't get the point of them either. Probably because there is no point in picking some random animation doing some random little motion over and over and over and sticking it in your signature. Maybe I'm just getting old lol, but i just think they're weird.


I hate those things too. The good news (for me) is that I haven't seen one in weeks. If you use Firefox, just right click on the image and select the option to block images from that website. You'll still see everyone else's signature but you won't see the Meez. You might have to do it on a couple different signatures as I think they use multiple servers. If you're using Safari I think it has the same option. If you're using IE...well...enjoy your Meez. biggrin.gif

Thank you!! I'm going to try that at home.

QUOTE(rae_and_scott @ Mar 28 2008, 12:08 PM) *
Totally agree on hating the oversized pics! Especially while I'm at work and trying to make it look like I'm working. ph34r.gif

laughing.gif Same here!
StillThePrettiest
cool! I have a whinge, and mox does the dirty work biggrin.gif

*big eyes*

thanks, moxy wub.gif
mox
QUOTE(StillThePrettiest @ Mar 28 2008, 12:26 PM) *
cool! I have a whinge, and mox does the dirty work biggrin.gif

*big eyes*

thanks, moxy wub.gif

*tips cowboy hat*

No need for thanks ma'am. It's what I do. It's...what I do.

*rides off into sunset*
*julez*
On a completely unrelated note, I suddenly feel really hungry.
mox
QUOTE(julezabelle @ Mar 28 2008, 01:43 PM) *
On a completely unrelated note, I suddenly feel really hungry.


*hands Julez a twinkie*

*tips cowboy hat*

No need for thanks ma'am. It's what I do. It's...what I do.

*rides off into sunset*
rae_and_scott
you crack me up mox!

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Jeraly
QUOTE(rae_and_scott @ Mar 28 2008, 01:08 PM) *
Totally agree on hating the oversized pics! Especially while I'm at work and trying to make it look like I'm working. ph34r.gif


blink.gif Me too.....

QUOTE(rae_and_scott @ Mar 28 2008, 09:34 PM) *
you crack me up mox!

laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif


He is the nominated honourary July Filer jester wink.gif

And StP - I am still loving Lovers Electric biggrin.gif I know all the words to some songs now biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
StillThePrettiest
oh, that's so GREAT! I really love them too... was playing the album yet again not half an hour ago smile.gif

they're in Australia at the moment; got some free gigs lined up... I wish I could go sad.gif


mox, you actually and literally made me laugh out loud laughing.gif
StillThePrettiest
oh, and I just popped back with some more randomness - I like how at the top of every page recently, I've had 'Start a New Life in New Zealand' as the sponsored ads laughing.gif

I think something's broken somewhere, if they think they're going to get many takers on a board like this laughing.gif
Jeraly
laughing.gif

Prolly something to do with... no it can't be your IP address cause you aren't in Oz!! Oh who knows... maybe they expect you to want to be closer to home?!?!
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