Bruce,

You successfully navigated the "under the table" ways of Vietnam and got her police certificate. Way to go!

Here is wishing you and your fiancee the best of luck on Monday morning, April 24th. We'll all be on the board waiting for the news.

If I can be of any help from the HCMC end...let me know.

Come out pink bud!!!

STL_HCMC

All I can say is:

PINK SLIP PINK

Thanks to everyone for your support I will let you all know the outcome as soon as I get the news.

Hey Bruce,
Good luck. I see a pass in your future and you will be united with your fiance. Do you know if your fiance still have the following forms to bring to the interview: DS230, DS-156, and DS-156K? Or did she turn them in before already? Thanks.

Hi,
She turned in the DS230 along with the check lists when she submitted Pkt 3. All the other forms will be turned in at the time of the interview.

Can't wait to hear your news. Good luck.

Bruce_Han -

I wish you and yours the best of luck and ...THINK PINK!!!

Do you think she's sleeping sound now?

Do you think I am getting drunk now?

Bruce, you put Laguna Nigel as your local office. Have you ever been to Little Saigon in Westminster?

Yes, I have been there several times. It is a short time from Disneyland.

Here is a heads up. After eating breakfast she is planning on being at the consulate at 7:30AM. Han's interview is scheduled for 10:00AM.

It's 8:00am Bruce! I just arrived at the office. Best of luck to you today buddy. It is a rather cool morning for HCMC, but the sun is shinning my friend. I'm thinking pink today!

STL_HCMC

I just want to wish you both the best of luck!!! My fiancee and I are thinking Pink!!!

GOOD LUCK!!!!!

We got the pink slip, I will fill you in on the details after I get some sleep.

I am so happy for you both!!!!!!

CONGRATS!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Excellent news for you and your fiancee, and the whole Vietnam VJ family! Now I hope I can share a little St. Louis, Missouri luck with you and come through pink myself! Look forward to your follow up. Enjoy the sleep - what little your body might get with this kind of news!

STL_HCMC

We are happy for you.

A big for you both.

I don't know what Pink means...but it looks good so CONGRATS!

Excellent! Congratulations!

Woow....congratulations !

congratulations! Im happy for you both

hehe.

The Pink slip is the goal of the entire process. It means you've passed the interview.

WTG!!! Can't wait to hear the details!

Congrats to you both!!! Post up the details soon.

It's supposed to be

More wonderful news for those of us still waiting for this moments, congratulations and good luck in the next process, Bruce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, I have some details, more will follow soon. her phone card ran out soon after she called me and so we will be chatting up all the detail details tonight. She did tell me something very odd. The CO asked her for her email address and password and actually opened up her email right there on the spot and searched around looking at our emails. So much for all the printed versions i sent to her. she said he did not even look at those or all the instant messages I printed out. He did quiz her about our engagement party and why only having 8 people attend. I asked her about the mystery irs 1722 form. He never mentioned it.

I will be back with a play by play Jepordy game show version after we chatt it all up tonight.


Thanks everybody!

Good luck to all of you!!!!

Han & Bruce

Wow. Going into someone's email is highly irregular and a serious breach of privacy. That is, quite frankly, disturbing.

I could not believe it when she told me that. What was this guy thinking. But what is Han going to tell them? (NO I have my rights?) Now I wonder if anybody has rights once they step into the consulate.

Only if they don't give you permission (which she did), but it certainly makes a lot more sense than them accepting printed out copies of E-Mails. If you were going to fake one part of the evidence, faking printed out E-Mails and Yahoo chats transcripts would be about the easiest part to fake don' t you think?

I don't think she had any choice. It's blackmail. Refuse and your ### gets the blue slip. The very least rude way would be for her to enter the password herself and be over his shoulder as he sees if there are emails there.

My fiancee and I rarely email each other. Almost everything we do is via Yahoo chat. so this may be a problem.

Well, now you know what you need to start doing. Remember, you can always change your password or even delete the account after the visa is issued. I guess you could look at it as rude, but in the same way that it's rude to make someone take their clothes off at the airport while you feel their goodies.

You can only blame the illegals for this stuff.

Right now I am ready to go postal with all the BS. There is this, the medical and the co-sponsoring issue and the discontinued 1722 form the Consulate refuses to admit is discontinued.

I always wondered if they accessed your email and listened in on phone calls, but always thought it would be a privacy issue bigtime. Did they actually go in and read certain emails, or did they just see if emails were in your inbox? I don't have a problem either way, because we have probably emailed each other about 200 times. I de feel that they are invading your privacy with this issue. I do agree with Dalegg, these are probably the easiest to fake, but I remember it stating that you can blackout personal information, so how can you do that if they are actually going into your email?

I'm thinking more about this and I'm starting to wonder what their angle is. I mean, once the illegal marriage agencies find out about this they'll just start having their clients open up Yahoo accounts and they'll flood them with E-Mails, making it look like a relationship is happening. But- maybe if the consulate sees an account with nothing but E-Mails from the petitioner they will get suspicious that it's not a real E-Mail account. So, now you've got to keep your other E-Mails in that account so they don't supect this, don't you?

I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of bruce_han's interview details! VERY interesting about the "pop" into the email account.

STL_HCMC

It begins with:

"My interview was scheduled for 10:00 a.m. I showed up at the consulate at 7:30 a.m. thinking I would be early, but I wasn't called until 2:00 p.m."

Love the new avatar.

I am apalled at what you all have to go through.

Seriously. That's is the MOST ridiculous invasion of privacy EVER. You can fake those, sure, but aren't there other ways to "prove" a relationship?


That's just sickening.

I guess if we choose to submit email as documented relationship evidence, then we must be prepared to show the "original" should the consular officer choose to request to see it. It is intrusive. The only way I can see it. You do what you have to do.

STL_HCMC

Did Bruce go to Vietnam after the interview? He's been suprisingly quiet since that first day.

I was wondering the same thing myself. If he is in Vietnam, I'd like to meet up and have coffee with the guy!

STL_HCMC

Hello,
I am back! I actually went the opposite way of Vietnam, I flew back to Missouri to visit my Father who is getting up there in age. I wanted to plug him in on everything going on, plus I was house hunting. If my company stock goes crazy, I am buying a house in Missouri were I can afford one.

Ok here are the details from Hans interview.

Han's interview was scheduled for 10:00AM. She arrived there at 7:30 AM, was called to the interview window at 2:30PM. Cudos to Dalegg for guessing that senerio.... She told me that when she handed in the documents to the Vietnamese staffers that they have this huge power trip ego thing going on and they were basically yelling at everybody that came to the window. She just handed them the papers looked at them and smiled. When she was called up to the window for the interview she said a very short man with glasses on was standing there. As he was asking her questions, Han said it was like he was whispering the questions, so she had to ask him several times to repeat the question, and she said she had to almost put her ear to the glass just to hear him speak. I am thinking he is testing her hearing and her English skills.

Here are the questions they asked her during the interview:

1. Who is your sponser?
2. Who does he live with?
3. How did you meet each other? She told him the website name.
4. Please write the name of the website on a piece of paper and hand it to me. She did just that.
5. At this point he asked her for her email address and password. Han said he was searching for about 3 min. She could not tell if he was opening emails or just looking at the to and from section. He did not ask her any questions related to any of the emails.
6. Was the petitioner married before? Note: he said petitioner this time.
7. When did the petitioner visit you the second time?
8. When was the engagment?
9. How many people was there? she told hiim only 6 people were attended. he frowned at this and asked:
10.Why so few people? Because he was here for only 1 week on his seconsd visit and we did not plan any party. he was going to come again to have a party but could not get away from work.
11. show mre pictures of the engagment. She showed him the pics with Han and I and our party of 6.
12. Do you have wedding pictures? She said no, we are not married yet. (Trick question)

He then handed her the Pink slip and said congratulations and wished he a happy wedding in America.

I am so relieved that this huge weight has lifted of our shoulders. I would never in a million years want to go through all this again.

I forgot to tell you,
Han picked up her Visa yesterday. She wants 1 more month to spend with her family and friends before she flys over here.

Unreal. The whispering thing is really rude. Plus then using terms like Petitioner and asking for wedding photos. At every turn it seems he wanted to trick her so he could deny the visa. Way to go for Han to get through all that.

Bruce, what happened to your Avitar and photo? Are you tearing down your profile now?

No,
I am still here, I am just looking for a new look. I will have something up soon.