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jundp
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 05:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.

I have endured comments from ignorant people (not friends...just acquaintances) who want to know what it's like being engaged to a German. My respoonse is "pretty much like being engaged to an American." I've also heard comments made in a joking manner about "Nazis" which is of course, highly offensive to most Germans today. It is very difficult for some people to disassociate war/atrocity from general group of people.

You could always make a smart-### remark like "well, I was hoping no one would notice she wasn't American!"
SJ
I have no problem with my inlaws and other friends of my husband..I'm welcome to them. just when I going out e.i Target, restaurants and so on.. I noticed some female caucasian want to eat me.(I don't know but I can tell their body language) but I try not to care isn't my business its theirs, if they have problem on me then too bad for them laughing.gif
panamania79
QUOTE(SJ @ Feb 6 2008, 04:11 PM) *
I have no problem with my inlaws and other friends of my husband..I'm welcome to them. just when I going out e.i Target, restaurants and so on.. I noticed some female caucasian want to eat me.(I don't know but I can tell their body language) but I try not to care isn't my business its theirs, if they have problem on me then too bad for them laughing.gif


I'm glad that you handle it that way.What makes me mad is that here in this day and age ,we should be over all that stupidity. mad.gif
garya505
QUOTE(Pattu Rani @ Feb 4 2008, 01:39 PM) *
QUOTE(panamania79 @ Jan 27 2008, 05:51 PM) *
QUOTE(foreverido @ Jan 27 2008, 05:29 PM) *
When i told my co-workers that i was getting married...they were happy for me..but as soon as i mentioned that my fiancee was a USC some asked if i was doing it to get a green card and migrate to the US. I hate it but it but i am not in the mood to justify the love that i have for my SO


Don't you just hate the "haters ?" I know I do.


I had a woman who is an acquaintance of my roommate tell me that she had had a 'message from God' that my husband was only using me for a GC. This is based only on knowing the bare facts of the relationship and only talking with me for maybe 3 minutes in Walgreen's.

rolleyes.gif


I get messages from God too. good.gif Well it's really just a voice in my head but I think it must be God. idea9dv.gif Who else would be able to talk directly to me in my head? alien.gif ohmy.gif One day the voice said "stay home and clean the guns". ph34r.gif I don't know why he wanted me to clean the guns. huh.gif Maybe that will be in the next message. dancin5hr.gif

Cassandra+Yuibi
Both of our families have been totally accepting of Yuibi and I, which we are incredibly thankful for. Most of the negative comments have been from total strangers. For example: When in Japan, a hobo came up to me and started to cuss me out for being a non-Japanese person with a Japanese guy. It was more creepy than anything- he smelled like feet.

More positively (but also strange), when we were first dating we were getting out of my car at Best Buy when I teenaged guy saw us holding hands and yelled, "WOOO! INTERRACIAL COUPLE! RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!" Starling, but at least he meant well.
panamania79
QUOTE(Cassandra+Yuibi @ Feb 8 2008, 08:08 PM) *
Both of our families have been totally accepting of Yuibi and I, which we are incredibly thankful for. Most of the negative comments have been from total strangers. For example: When in Japan, a hobo came up to me and started to cuss me out for being a non-Japanese person with a Japanese guy. It was more creepy than anything- he smelled like feet.

More positively (but also strange), when we were first dating we were getting out of my car at Best Buy when I teenaged guy saw us holding hands and yelled, "WOOO! INTERRACIAL COUPLE! RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!" Starling, but at least he meant well.



A hobo of all people cussed you out.oh nooooooo! wacko.gif
Anonymous
QUOTE(SJ @ Feb 6 2008, 05:11 PM) *
I noticed some female caucasian want to eat me.(I don't know but I can tell their body language)


laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif You might want to change that statement (tell your husband what you said and he can help you correct it).

My Filipina wife and I have been married for 3+ years now. I have not had any comments (other than my brother questioning my wife's motives by calling her a green card hunter) and I haven't really noticed any strange looks when we're out in public. That goes for here in the US as well as the Philippines. In the Philippines provinces I do get a LOT of strange looks and jaw-dropping, but I don't think it's because I'm married to a Filipina. unsure.gif

Maybe I really haven't experienced any racial tension or maybe I've just grown so used to ignoring it that I don't notice it anymore. I've been dating outside my white race for probably about 15 years now (Mexican, half-Vietnamese, Brazilian, Chinese and, of course, Filipina). Aside from a couple of dirty looks from Mexican men when I was dating one Mexican woman, I've really not encountered any racial adversity.
frustrated1
i'm married to a 'white' bread. haven't seen any racism because of it. what is interesting is when the kids come along, and you're filling out ethnicity information on forms, you usually don't get to pick 2 options. the most recent example was the biometrics form. there was asian, hispanic, white, etc. but there was no 'brown' option in there! and you could pick 'unknown' so i left it blank. the lady at the counter looked at the kids and circled 'asian' despite the white dad in the back.
interesting experiences all around. will only make the kids smarter, fair, well-rounded individuals.
lirachadsbaby
my husband's friend(not a close one) once called me a GOOT. Hubby told me about it and I didn't really get mad and was thinking then to let that man pay his word to me. Now, I really don't mind at all if I hear again that word against me coz me and hubby know the truth.
panamania79
QUOTE(SJ @ Feb 6 2008, 04:11 PM) *
I have no problem with my inlaws and other friends of my husband..I'm welcome to them. just when I going out e.i Target, restaurants and so on.. I noticed some female caucasian want to eat me.(I don't know but I can tell their body language) but I try not to care isn't my business its theirs, if they have problem on me then too bad for them laughing.gif


Maybe they're jealous and want you for themselves.


QUOTE(lirachadsbaby @ Feb 10 2008, 02:41 AM) *
my husband's friend(not a close one) once called me a GOOT. Hubby told me about it and I didn't really get mad and was thinking then to let that man pay his word to me. Now, I really don't mind at all if I hear again that word against me coz me and hubby know the truth.


I haven't heard the "G" word in over 20 years,I thought it was a thing of the past.What a shame.
Forever Young
QUOTE(jason&Marla @ Jan 15 2008, 04:18 PM) *
I am white and my wife is Jamaican. She is still in Jamaica and has not been to the US as of now, but I have spent alot of time in Jamaica and I think the people there are very wonderful people (most of them). Her family is very supportive and loving and has no problem that i am white. BUT, there are some (ok alot) of racial men in Jamaica. I had to learn quick to just ignore them and smile at them as I held my wife close to me. They made many remarks like white man, why you with a white man, and they would tell my wife that no white man can please like a Jamaican man (they could be right, but my wife thinks different, she is very happy in all depts.)

As for my family, they are very supportive and can't wait to meet her (except for 1 aunt who laughed at me, but i don't even speak to her anymore -- its her ignorance not mine). My church which is 95% white are very supportive and anxious to meet her as well. (which brings up a point -- We all serve the same God, so it does'nt matter in His eyes, so we should not worry about what others think)

I am so sorry to hear that J. They are just jealous and ignorant! I think it is hysterical that we Jamaicans have the nerve to make negative comments about other races. After all our national motto is..."Out of Many, One people!" There is a reason for that!

Jamaica is a country that is so diverse it's crazy! We had a great deal of Chinese, Indian & Syrian people that migrated to JA. from the early 19th- 20th century. Not to mention our strong British, Scottish and German root from slavery!

We are what I call a 'Mutt' country...there are very few Yardies that are 100% African, regardless of what they may want to tell you!!

Good luck & many blessings to you and Marla!

Bless-ed,
Gill
typee0
Unfortunately some things never change, I was born and raised in the deep south. I have been many places with the Army. It took some time for myself to accept to each His/Her own. Anyway my own coworkers had the nerve to say I was turning on the black man. I asked What HE double hockey sticks is my guy who was born in africa. That was pure iqnorance. A few other ordeals have been encountered by so called friends. However since I have gone over and they have seen the engagement party pics and the gifts that I receive from time to time it is like oh He must be serious.
Just because some people are stuck in whatever zone does not mean everyone else has to be a part of that thinking. We all must get out side of limited thinking. I am so glad I did. I wish all the best to everyone and the strength to get through whatever obstacles that pop up.

Health and wellness always. kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif
BelwinMills
not really any yet. My hubby is from Jamaica. We live in a college town which is pretty nice.
GabachaYucateca
My husband didn't want to come here at all, but came for me. I have gotten the GC comment, but generally just blow it off. In fact, the last person whjo made that comment was born in Cape Verde and naturalized (or his parents did) 15 years ago.

Hubby thinks people look at him a lot, and feels like he notices the difference in looks when we go shopping in say, the suburban town where I grew up as opposed to the city that we live in now. But I'm surrounded by people in interracial marriages.

And where I live and work, if you say "oh, she's the white girl" everyone knows who you're talking about.

What I have felt is tension from other women, white or Latina, who seem to think that just because I'm chatting with their men then I'm someone bad. We went to a party full of Central and South Americans, and at the beginning some of the older Colombian women were not too friendly, but by the end they had invited me to Medellin for vacation. I think it was partly feeling me out because they might not interact with non-Hispanic people too much. I don't know, but I'm pretty used to women needing time to warm up.

But what i hadn't expected was absolute bitchiness and coldness from one younger woman...she came late with her hubby...she was Panamanian and he from Trinidad but i think she grew up here. Anyway her hubby sat right next to me, and she on the other side of him. So I was friendly and introduced myself and started chatting...he was fine at first, but then I saw how she was looking at me, and then he clammed up and got pretty rude and cold.

Nice, huh? And with my husband sitting on the other side of me!
panamania79
QUOTE(GabachaYucateca @ Feb 13 2008, 12:06 PM) *
My husband didn't want to come here at all, but came for me. I have gotten the GC comment, but generally just blow it off. In fact, the last person whjo made that comment was born in Cape Verde and naturalized (or his parents did) 15 years ago.

Hubby thinks people look at him a lot, and feels like he notices the difference in looks when we go shopping in say, the suburban town where I grew up as opposed to the city that we live in now. But I'm surrounded by people in interracial marriages.

And where I live and work, if you say "oh, she's the white girl" everyone knows who you're talking about.

What I have felt is tension from other women, white or Latina, who seem to think that just because I'm chatting with their men then I'm someone bad. We went to a party full of Central and South Americans, and at the beginning some of the older Colombian women were not too friendly, but by the end they had invited me to Medellin for vacation. I think it was partly feeling me out because they might not interact with non-Hispanic people too much. I don't know, but I'm pretty used to women needing time to warm up.

But what i hadn't expected was absolute bitchiness and coldness from one younger woman...she came late with her hubby...she was Panamanian and he from Trinidad but i think she grew up here. Anyway her hubby sat right next to me, and she on the other side of him. So I was friendly and introduced myself and started chatting...he was fine at first, but then I saw how she was looking at me, and then he clammed up and got pretty rude and cold.

Nice, huh? And with my husband sitting on the other side of me!


It wasn't me. whistling.gif tongue.gif
GabachaYucateca
Of course, not, mami!!!! I'm sure we'd get along splendidly! smile.gif
panamania79
QUOTE(GabachaYucateca @ Feb 13 2008, 03:31 PM) *
Of course, not, mami!!!! I'm sure we'd get along splendidly! smile.gif

Hells yeah ! devil.gif
zqt3344
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.

Krikit
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif


rolleyes.gif
athena_ny
QUOTE(Crikey! @ Feb 19 2008, 11:10 AM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif


rolleyes.gif



Hahaha.

Can't even post an article without being zqt'd.

People stare at us in public and I've had people act like I should have found something better, but this is a country with racism deeply ingrained in its culture. It doesn't get a pass from me, but meh. At least I know I am a few steps ahead.
AnotherRetiredVJr
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.



Here's Johnny!

http://static.flickr.com/27/45718334_bcd57b061b.jpg
Krikit
QUOTE(athena_ny @ Feb 19 2008, 03:03 PM) *
Can't even post an article without being zqt'd.



QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 19 2008, 03:08 PM) *


laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif good.gif
AnotherRetiredVJr
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 19 2008, 03:08 PM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.



Here's Johnny!

http://static.flickr.com/27/45718334_bcd57b061b.jpg



I'll leave it at that for now. I'm heading to Viet Nam in the morning and don't have the time to properly respond to you right now. Johnny has pretty much summed it up for me though. His message is intended for you and any of the others who don't see life through the same "rose colored glasses" that I have been endowed with. laughing.gif
Ken y Onelis
Remember this: When two people are in love, it will attract all kinds of attention and reaction. I was living with, and later married to a (white) French-Canadian/Scandanavia woman from Michigan with me being African-American. We were together a total of 12 yrs. before our divorce. My ex was attractive, but I wanted some different flavor. So, I met a 'Morena' from Northern Colombia, and I'm very satisfied.

But, in Colombia, being Black equates to being a 2nd class citizen. There's segregation alive and kicking in that country, and I understand my fiance when she says that she appreciates the laws we have here in the United States. Her younger sister asks me about, "Obama" regularly, and her father asks me about "Mississippi Burning" and if it was exactly like in the movie?? When I was still with my ex, we traveled to Helsinki, Finland, and people there wanted to know about "Boy's in the Hood" and why young people did not get along with the police in Los Angeles?? Just honest curiosity.

In Colombia, we get stared at, but I just stare back (like I'm part Mental), and people get uncomfortable and look away. I don't get it. We're both black. What's the problem??? Haha.

Moral of the story: don't base your happiness on acceptance from others.
zqt3344
So out of touch with reality, grow up!
QUOTE(athena_ny @ Feb 19 2008, 04:03 PM) *
QUOTE(Crikey! @ Feb 19 2008, 11:10 AM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif


rolleyes.gif



Hahaha.

Can't even post an article without being zqt'd.

People stare at us in public and I've had people act like I should have found something better, but this is a country with racism deeply ingrained in its culture. It doesn't get a pass from me, but meh. At least I know I am a few steps ahead.

zqt3344
Really intelligent, you people need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and start getting to moving and making the most of life in the USA! For it could be a lot worse in other parts of the world, which is a cold hard reality, aceept it and deal with it. Move on!
whistling.gif
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 19 2008, 04:08 PM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.



Here's Johnny!

http://static.flickr.com/27/45718334_bcd57b061b.jpg



AGREED! I learned it long ago unlike so many others on here that want to sit around and feel sorry for themselves and cry and whine all the time! whistling.gif

QUOTE(ken cooke @ Feb 20 2008, 02:44 AM) *
Remember this: When two people are in love, it will attract all kinds of attention and reaction. I was living with, and later married to a (white) French-Canadian/Scandanavia woman from Michigan with me being African-American. We were together a total of 12 yrs. before our divorce. My ex was attractive, but I wanted some different flavor. So, I met a 'Morena' from Northern Colombia, and I'm very satisfied.

But, in Colombia, being Black equates to being a 2nd class citizen. There's segregation alive and kicking in that country, and I understand my fiance when she says that she appreciates the laws we have here in the United States. Her younger sister asks me about, "Obama" regularly, and her father asks me about "Mississippi Burning" and if it was exactly like in the movie?? When I was still with my ex, we traveled to Helsinki, Finland, and people there wanted to know about "Boy's in the Hood" and why young people did not get along with the police in Los Angeles?? Just honest curiosity.

In Colombia, we get stared at, but I just stare back (like I'm part Mental), and people get uncomfortable and look away. I don't get it. We're both black. What's the problem??? Haha.

Moral of the story: don't base your happiness on acceptance from others.
Ken y Onelis
I think that a good suggestion would be to sit the family, extended family, etc. down and let them know the whole story, see photographs of who their new In-Law is, where s/he is coming from, etc. There should be no surprises, only anticipation for this person entering your life. Hopefully, your family will all be on-board with this decision you have made, because a unified family will make things feel more inclusive.
bora bora
QUOTE(ken cooke @ Feb 23 2008, 06:14 PM) *
I think that a good suggestion would be to sit the family, extended family, etc. down and let them know the whole story, see photographs of who their new In-Law is, where s/he is coming from, etc. There should be no surprises, only anticipation for this person entering your life. Hopefully, your family will all be on-board with this decision you have made, because a unified family will make things feel more inclusive.



Exactly.
My friends and family couldn't WAIT to meet my husband!!
athena_ny
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 23 2008, 03:46 PM) *
Really intelligent, you people need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and start getting to moving and making the most of life in the USA! For it could be a lot worse in other parts of the world, which is a cold hard reality, aceept it and deal with it. Move on!
whistling.gif
QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 19 2008, 04:08 PM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.



Here's Johnny!

http://static.flickr.com/27/45718334_bcd57b061b.jpg



AGREED! I learned it long ago unlike so many others on here that want to sit around and feel sorry for themselves and cry and whine all the time! whistling.gif

QUOTE(ken cooke @ Feb 20 2008, 02:44 AM) *
Remember this: When two people are in love, it will attract all kinds of attention and reaction. I was living with, and later married to a (white) French-Canadian/Scandanavia woman from Michigan with me being African-American. We were together a total of 12 yrs. before our divorce. My ex was attractive, but I wanted some different flavor. So, I met a 'Morena' from Northern Colombia, and I'm very satisfied.

But, in Colombia, being Black equates to being a 2nd class citizen. There's segregation alive and kicking in that country, and I understand my fiance when she says that she appreciates the laws we have here in the United States. Her younger sister asks me about, "Obama" regularly, and her father asks me about "Mississippi Burning" and if it was exactly like in the movie?? When I was still with my ex, we traveled to Helsinki, Finland, and people there wanted to know about "Boy's in the Hood" and why young people did not get along with the police in Los Angeles?? Just honest curiosity.

In Colombia, we get stared at, but I just stare back (like I'm part Mental), and people get uncomfortable and look away. I don't get it. We're both black. What's the problem??? Haha.

Moral of the story: don't base your happiness on acceptance from others.



Except this thread is about interracial relationships, which, based on your lack of input on the subject at hand, you know nothing about.
Ken y Onelis

Huh??? unsure.gif
GabiandVi
My parents live in the town where Ernest Gaines set the novel, Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman. In case you don't know that book or have not seen the mini-series based on it, it is about a woman who was born in slavery and lived through the civil rights era. In fact, if you have read any of Gaines's books, most of them are set in this area, though the names of places have been changed. It is an area that is majority Black but primarily run and owned by Whites. It is deeply steeped in racism, though never really any violence. All my life I've heard racist comments from family and friends.

This is the town where my husband was first introduced to the US. EVERYONE has been very welcoming. People who have said the most awful things about Blacks in the past have been truly accomodating and sincerely warm to my husband. I was a little concerned how my family would accept our marriage, but I'm now ashamed of my former fears.

I expect we will occasionally meet with prejudice when we finally start to live in the US, but I don't think it will have much influence on the way we live. I think that people are much more accepting of interracial marriages these days. I am a bit worried about our child. I'm a teacher and I have seen in schools how children have to choose whether they are "White" or "Black" and how they often have to prove how "Black" or "White" they are. I'm sure it isn't like this in places where minorities are truly that, i.e. 10% or less of the population, but where minorities are a large portion of the population, like where we will be living, fear and distrust rises up along color lines. Maybe this will also begin to be less so.

By relating my experiences and my expectations, I don't want to downplay the racism that exists against an entire group of people. Somehow as an interracial couple, we literally are able to bridge the gap between races. But I do worry about how my husband will feel after a few years living in the US. While he was in China, people were openly curious about him. They would want to take pictures of him and rub his skin to see if the color came off. There is a sort of caste system based on shades of darkness in China. Though it isn't as structured as in India, there is definitely a hierarchy of social acceptance and Black people are thought to be dirty. However, there is a sort of romantic fascination with Africans in China these days, so while my husband often found the attention annoying and the questions and attitudes stupid, he didn't suffer too much from it. I think he might become frustrated after a while about more subtle prejudice in the US. I've tried to prepare him, but I don't know if he truly understands.
AnotherRetiredVJr
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 23 2008, 03:46 PM) *
Really intelligent, you people need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and start getting to moving and making the most of life in the USA! For it could be a lot worse in other parts of the world, which is a cold hard reality, aceept it and deal with it. Move on!
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QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 19 2008, 04:08 PM) *
QUOTE(zqt3344 @ Feb 19 2008, 11:02 AM) *
What did you expect from people? You are trying to simplify your situation and look through life in rose colored glasses. You and I and anyone else that gets married to a non-USA person should have thought long and hard about the ramifications of marrying them and bringing them to the USA and what could and would be said or done to them or us, so stop crying and be strong! good.gif

QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 09:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.



Here's Johnny!

http://static.flickr.com/27/45718334_bcd57b061b.jpg



AGREED! I learned it long ago unlike so many others on here that want to sit around and feel sorry for themselves and cry and whine all the time! whistling.gif

QUOTE(ken cooke @ Feb 20 2008, 02:44 AM) *
Remember this: When two people are in love, it will attract all kinds of attention and reaction. I was living with, and later married to a (white) French-Canadian/Scandanavia woman from Michigan with me being African-American. We were together a total of 12 yrs. before our divorce. My ex was attractive, but I wanted some different flavor. So, I met a 'Morena' from Northern Colombia, and I'm very satisfied.

But, in Colombia, being Black equates to being a 2nd class citizen. There's segregation alive and kicking in that country, and I understand my fiance when she says that she appreciates the laws we have here in the United States. Her younger sister asks me about, "Obama" regularly, and her father asks me about "Mississippi Burning" and if it was exactly like in the movie?? When I was still with my ex, we traveled to Helsinki, Finland, and people there wanted to know about "Boy's in the Hood" and why young people did not get along with the police in Los Angeles?? Just honest curiosity.

In Colombia, we get stared at, but I just stare back (like I'm part Mental), and people get uncomfortable and look away. I don't get it. We're both black. What's the problem??? Haha.

Moral of the story: don't base your happiness on acceptance from others.



This is about racism. pure and simple. Don't like what I posted? Tough ^&*%. Evidently it's a good topic or it wouldn't still be active.

P.S. I'm sitting in a pretty poor area of a pretty poor country right now. I do not feel the least bit sorry for myself. I feel grateful to be as fortunate as I have been. My feelings are still the same concerning racists and the idiots who support them.
Jamericanlove
I'm a Black Jamaican woman who is married to a White american man and I have never had a problem dating inside or outside of my race. My husband on the other hand has always dated black women ALL his life. It's not a big deal and to be honest I have never gotten any negative comment about mine and my husbands relationship. We know we make a great couple and that's all that really matters at the end of the day. smile.gif
RyaNRiza
I've heard a lot of comments about mail order brides. If it's someone I care to continue having conversations with, I set them straight. If it's not I just walk away. They also ask me if she had been trying to come here, I guess a roundabout way of asking if she was only looking for a greencard.

Many people just don't want to try to understand.
estadia
Im latina perviz is from India...........but...........i have two full black sisters......mixed brother and another mixed sister and brothers that are Pakistani...........hmmm when we set down for dinner in our home we have the meeting of most the nations we have drawn attention no matter where we are in our country the USA or other countries over seas...........i think people are too busy trying to figure us out to say anything but we are the head turners going out to eat......to Disney land where ever it is people stop and look......... no0pb.gif no racist remarks in our home....or from our family lol
Ken y Onelis
I just returned from 1 week in Northern Colombia. The caste system there is so severe that Blacks and/or Afro Colombians are barred from certain high-calibre establishments. Onelis and I didn't have any difficulties navigating this social construct, but she made me aware of it, and as an American, I am happy to say things are better here than any other part of the world in terms of our Constitution and opportunities available to us.

I spent 2 weeks in Finland, and although I was simply a traveler, I got this look as if I were there to live off of the welfare system. You could read it on the faces of so many people. I just smiled and enjoyed myself regardless, because I can't worry about the thoughts of ignorant people.

Last summer when I visited Peru, I spent some time in the Amazon region, and people were just curious, and just looked at me in curiousity. Some asked politely if I were, "Brazileno" or Brazilian. I laughed and told them, "No, American."

When I lead tours in Baja, Mexico - I get asked where I am from, and while speaking in Spanish, people tell me, "Impossible! American's can't/don't speak Spanish!" blink.gif
Merk
KEEP THE OREO LOVE ALIVE! good.gif Don't let other peoples' hang ups bring you down!!! Smile and keep on moving!!!!
sweetpink
not because you are white skinned it made you a better person from the rests of humanity..only moron could have this kind of mentality.

My in-laws loves me and that's all I care for. My father in-law is an irish were as my mother in-law is a german. My sister in-law married to a cuban and I am a filipino...we are a multicultural family! tongue_ss.gif
kerewin21
My husband was surprised at how many mixed couples you see here in New York. In Morocco, even someone who's dark-skinned and someone who's light-skinned together is unusual, even though they are the same ethnicity and speak the same language.

I personally think it's great to see so many mixed marriages.
bora bora
QUOTE(kerewin21 @ Apr 9 2008, 04:52 PM) *
My husband was surprised at how many mixed couples you see here in New York. In Morocco, even someone who's dark-skinned and someone who's light-skinned together is unusual, even though they are the same ethnicity and speak the same language.

I personally think it's great to see so many mixed marriages.



I agree!
I was surprised to see so many mixed marriages just where I work - it's really nice.

People used to stare at us a lot in Brazil, but people weren't giving us dirty looks, it's just not common to see Americans out of the touristy area in the city where we lived - and my husband is pretty dark. We think it's beautiful star_smile.gif
susita83
Well I experienced something that really hurt me.

My kids (they're twins) are from a previous relationship and they are 3 years old. Thier father is half Puerto Rican. And if you didn't know, Puerto Ricans are US Citizens anyway.

Basically, I had a picture of my kids hanging up at work and one of my co-workers said "whose kids are these? we dont have any mexicans working here." and started laughing. I almost got fired for what I said to that person. Fortunately my manager saw my side of things.

Other times, people ask me if I'm babysitting or if my kids are half black. If they were, would it matter????
Why is it so important to distinguish WHAT they are. They're kids. They're American kids.

It's very disheartening and it's sad that people are so narrow-minded.
bora bora
QUOTE(susita83 @ Apr 19 2008, 12:43 PM) *
Well I experienced something that really hurt me.

My kids (they're twins) are from a previous relationship and they are 3 years old. Thier father is half Puerto Rican. And if you didn't know, Puerto Ricans are US Citizens anyway.

Basically, I had a picture of my kids hanging up at work and one of my co-workers said "whose kids are these? we dont have any mexicans working here." and started laughing. I almost got fired for what I said to that person. Fortunately my manager saw my side of things.

Other times, people ask me if I'm babysitting or if my kids are half black. If they were, would it matter????
Why is it so important to distinguish WHAT they are. They're kids. They're American kids.

It's very disheartening and it's sad that people are so narrow-minded.



You're right - sorry you had to go through that.
Your babies are toooooo cute!!!
Sheriff Uling
I've actually experienced a more favorable reception and response in public. I told my wife it's because she is Asian and not Black. However, this is simply my perception.
Krikit
QUOTE(Sheriff Uling @ Apr 21 2008, 07:42 PM) *
I've actually experienced a more favorable reception and response in public. I told my wife it's because she is Asian and not Black. However, this is simply my perception.

More favourable in what way, Sheriff?
panamania79
QUOTE(Sheriff Uling @ Apr 21 2008, 06:42 PM) *
I've actually experienced a more favorable reception and response in public. I told my wife it's because she is Asian and not Black. However, this is simply my perception.


I think you're mistaking curiosity for "a more favorable reception and response." Believe me. yes.gif
ginger1981
QUOTE(Trelawny20853 @ Jan 11 2008, 09:25 AM) *
QUOTE(Jomo @ Jan 9 2008, 10:16 AM) *
I am from and we reside in St. Louis, Missouri. My husband is from Jamaica. Our neighborhood is like the U.N.....we have every race and nationality you can imagine. As far as everyday life and the job situation, we've seen no issues. My own family and friends accepted him with open arms.

Ironically, the only time I've ever heard negative comments have been from Jamaican women, here and abroad.


Girlfriend get out of here. Why do people have to be like that. I think ya'll are a beautiful couple and as long as you two are happy to HELL with everyone else. That really gets under my skin.Call me Ms. INTERNATIONAL...I'll date whoever the HELL I want. I just chose to marry a Jamaican, because I've not had luck with men outside of my culture. I've dated American men black and white, but all I hear are conversations about WEED (and these are profesisonal men). If that's the only think you can connect with me about my CULTURE, then keep it moving. I dated an Italian guy for 2 years and his mother and her sisters (his aunts) HATED me. His father and uncles LOVED me. They found that I was EXOTIC. And the fact that I came from Jamaica, just made his father and the males in his family love me more. It was just his mother. He was the youngest son of 10 and he was the FINEST and I was just not good enough for her. They said I was too black and too fat and that all black one do is have babies. So, I made sure everytime I went around them I FLAUNTED by BIG A$$. I always sat on his laps and my mouth was always on his. I would have married him, but his job is too risky and people in his field either don't get married or don't stay married long (according to him). Check this out, they own a lot of propery in Negril and I went on vacation with them for 3 weeks (you know I was LOVING it)...because I was in my ZONE and she was seeing couples of opposite races all over NEGRIL, Mobay and Ocho. I drove her NUTS! She kept pretending that she was having a nervous breakdown and what is this world coming to. Her husband paid her no mind. They were to BLAZED up to address her comments. But this was the last straw, ITALIANS are big on Sunday dinners and well, when she set the table (you ready for this)...she set my place with PAPER plate, forks, knife, cup, bowl--so, we went at it. I was never felt so disrespectful in my life. Now, this woman had no problems with me when I spoke to her on the phone serveral times. We dated 6 months before I met his mom. His dad, brothers, uncles, new I was black. He didn't tell her, so the first time she met me she was in SHOCK! All she kept saying of what I could understand in her langauge was "Negra"...I think that means black or something like it. So, GIRLFRIEND, when you out and about...let them know he's yours...to HELL with everyone else. When we would go out, I got dirty steers from EVERYONE...because let me tell you...he was FINE (oh, did I tell you that already)...but I fell for him, because of his eyes and his zest of life...he was a KID all over again. Who knew that a grown man could get a kick out of going to a THEME park and losing his every loving mind. After that date, I was hooked.


Well, you must remember she was an ITALIAN MOTHER lol. From my experience they have a hard time letting go of their sons no0pb.gif

Anyways your gorgeous...she was probably jealous too!

kontumdiary

We get a few stares at the shopping malls here in Texas but I think that's mostly because my wife looks so much younger than me, not b/c of different nationalities. Our huge smiles let them all know we are two of the happiest people on planet earth - so I'm sure that fends off anyone saying much of anything. All, and I do mean all of my friends embraced her like family when she came here, and my son loves her a hell of a lot more than his real mother. If someone has objected to our marriage we sure as heck don't know about it, this includes all our neighbors. Possibly the only objections over nationalities came from my wifes family in China, in the beginning. When we were first getting to know one another via email, phone, etc, etc, my wife didn't bother telling her family her new boyfriend was an American. Then one day when she knew she'd reached the point of no return she had to let the family in on the deal. That's when she took her mother a photo of me. According to my wife, then SO, her moms reaction was a bit indignant especially when she found out her daughter had plans on marrying. Upon seeing the photo she grunted, saying, "Ohhhh, why do you want to marry a foreigner?" I was a little worried upon hearing this but was told to forget it so I did. Now, her whole family including all aunts, uncles, grandmother's and living grandfather's adore me and I hear her mother constantly reminding her to take good, good care of me. That's partly, maybe mostly, b/c I take such good care of my wife - she's very, very happy with her life here in America and we're both extremely grateful there is such a country like this that allows people the kind of freedoms most of us have - no wonder so many have paid the ultimate sacrifice.

kontumdiary




QUOTE(WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Jan 3 2008, 08:09 AM) *
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-0...-marriage_n.htm


My question is how many of you have experienced some form of racism as a result of your interracial or mixed nationality marriage? Personally, when a member of my family found out I intended to marry a Vietnamese woman she asked me "How can you do that after what they did to us". I was shocked to say the least. My response was that

1.) I was relatively certain she had nothing to do with the war since she wasn't even born yet. and

2.) That it was us that probably owed amends since we bombed them to the stone age and then bailed out leaving one hell of a mess behind that continues to kill today. Sounds sort of familiar doesn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

P.S. I still haven't asked if a white German would be acceptable.

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