QUOTE(BESANGIN @ Jan 2 2008, 08:51 AM)

QUOTE(idocare @ Jan 2 2008, 02:55 AM)

Having a baby I've found is one of the ways to show that you married with intent for the marriage to last. Anybody can make a baby, then while your alien spouse is telling you how much they love u and all, they have to show their love and we all know that in relationship and marriges we display our affection towards the other by making love.
I got pregnant within the first weeks of him being here, we weren't even married yet so sure he still showed love towards me......lol
They say if something is worth having it's worth fighting for. I can't understand how so many or I'll say the majority of u will just let the alien leave and not try to alert uscis of immigration fraud after all u did to get them here. But as I see most of you would just wait on the lord to deal with them and I know God will, but don't any of you believe in Faith without works are dead.
Everyone that applied for their spouse to come here to action to achieve that benefit, had u not took action nothing would of been accomplished. Many more of you work hard calling the Congressman and Senator fighting to get him here, I just don't understand why you'd just let him walk and not try to send him back once it's clear that u have been used for visa benefits.
You throw a child in the mix and it's much more complicated. Much harder to prove that they married u for a benefit even if they tell u to your face that they don't love you and never did, they will do what's necessary to stay here, telling immigration how rotten u were to them and how much they love their child even if they never see them.
My ex put in court papers that he can't bare to me cause it brings back such bad memories of how bad I treated him.......lol He also admitted during our divorce trail telling me that one day his son will come looking for him. So I guess I'[m having trouble figuring out whyany usc would just let that alien which totally used them just walk away without trying to report them and trying to get him sent back from whatever country he came from.
Another point is that it would only encourage the alien spouse to tell his friends and family that it works and they should try meeting anyone online and get them to marry you file for your papers, buy your ticket to the USA then just wait for adjustment or pull out early by preforming actions that will satisfy a VAWA ( I-360 ) then u can try filing on your own without the USC knowing any more of your business.
Then you can file your paperwork on your own.
God doesn't need our help doing anything and that is what I learned too late. So what our stories can do for others is not teach them how to go and get their SO's deported when they start acting a fool, because we don't know how their situations will turn out, but we need to educate them on what to look for and what to avoid BEFORE they get to the level that you and I got to. Now it took time for me to realize that every ounce of thought and concern I gave to my situation and how I could make him suffer like me was only giving him control over my life and prohibiting me from moving forward to prepare myself for a real, honest and fulfilling relationship. So I had to let go for my own peace of mind and self healing.
Do you want to be in love or in a relationship again?
The likelihood of you getting a good man who is going to tolerate you trying to be with him and spend so much time and resources deporting your EX is slim. HE AIN'T HAVING that!
I believe you are interpreting that passage faith without works to fit what you need, but God did not intend that to be for revenge. You may not see it but to all that you share with Idocare, it comes across as vengence, and it does NOT seem like you have faith that God is working on your behalf because you keep trying to help Him out which is basically saying to him, You ain't taking care of this the way I want so let me show You how to do it. Again to me that is what got us here in the first place. You and I know the pain of it and that's why I understand when and whatever you post, but I am so scared that you are not healing yourself, for you and for "Little Man". I always wish you the best on your journey. Will always be there for you too. Sonya
I agree with a lot of your statements regarding healing, moving on and letting go and letting God. I am only quoting your post to acknowledge this fact. The rest of the post is related to idocare's posting.
I have been noticing the constant tie-in to the ex regarding most postings by idocare, at first I was sympathetic to the predicament / situation she found herself in. But, now I feel pity for her (not to say that she is seeking pity, this is just the emotion that I feel) the post have went beyond informative and are extremely sad, discouraging and malicious. In life things happen and it takes two people to have a relationship and two people to destroy it. I am not perfect and neither is anyone, we all make choices on how to handle relationship situations. So please don't take this the wrong way, I am not judging you or attempting to disparage you in any way. But sometimes tough love is needed to help us look at reality
(my history) Prior to my current relationship I have dated several African men over the course of the last 9 years from South Africa to Nigeria and a few countries in between

. Since you constantly post your story (as is your right to do), I feel that I can comment on an aspect to which I have noticed regarding your post. In my experience most men, but especially, African men cannot stand constant nagging (beating a dead horse) of an issue. I can only assume based on your constant (beating of a dead horse) in this forum (which is your right to do), that it was a personality characteristics that was displayed by you in your marriage.
We-Destiny's Steps to Conflict Free Communication IMO
Address the issue and give him a little room and time to make the needed corrections of the complaint.
If none are made in a respectable time-frame give him suggestions of what would make you happy.
If nothing is done maybe having another discussion to clarify how you feel, and to confirm that he has no intention of making changes?
Is his decision to not make the change affecting the relationship in a negative way?
If not, accept it and move on and recognize that accepting is releasing the issue and letting it go.
If the issue falls in the category of non-negotiable dig deep into prayer and self-reflection, come to terms with-in yourself on what your next move should be and act on it.
One last thing, you keep posting that your husband scammed you, and I am sure in your hurting you believe that. I don't know either of you; I can only assume that just as you wanted him to change certain aspects of his personality to your liking; he more than likely had the same desires of you. So my assumption is that you both were likely disappointed by the other. With any situation that causes and emotional reaction / response be it bad or good some self-reflection has to take place. As I stated in the beginning it takes two to make a relationship and the same two to break it. We all must own up to our actions and mistakes. As a suggestion maybe if you began to recognize and or post some of the mistakes that you made in your relationship that leed to the situation you now find yourself in. Your post might become informative; and helpful to people in developing, maintaining and becoming more informed in their current relationships. And not what they have become (a continual the dooms-day is coming... look at what he did to me... I bet it will happen to you so jump ship...don't trust foreign medical doctors that were turned down for visiting visas... don't trust Nigerians... scammer alert, scammer alert self righteous pity-party.
YOU "KEEP IT MOVING" I have seen this phrase used by several people not sure who to credit it to.