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Hi, would someone help me with this? My fiance is waiting for interview at Guangzhou consulate for K1 visa however he does not have a birth certificate. He never received a birth certificate. Would there be any problems at the interview? What can he do? Thanks in advance for any advice.
QUOTE(Daisy088 @ Dec 13 2007, 04:09 PM) 
Hi, would someone help me with this? My fiance is waiting for interview at Guangzhou consulate for K1 visa however he does not have a birth certificate. He never received a birth certificate. Would there be any problems at the interview? What can he do? Thanks in advance for any advice.
If his parents/family do not have this, and there is no public record to be had - he should contact the Consulate/Embassy ahead of time to inquire.
A record of birth can be gotten at the local Notary office, as well as translation.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
QUOTE
Birth Certificates
Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3537.htmlAvailable in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Dec 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
A record of birth can be gotten at the local Notary office, as well as translation.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
QUOTE
Birth Certificates
Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3537.htmlAvailable in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Ditto's..YuandDan are exactly right we had to do this in GZ..And CFL is best for us.
QUOTE(little white guy @ Dec 13 2007, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Dec 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
A record of birth can be gotten at the local Notary office, as well as translation.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
QUOTE
Birth Certificates
Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3537.htmlAvailable in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Ditto's..YuandDan are exactly right we had to do this in GZ..And CFL is best for us.
Just as additional back-up, yes definitely the birth certificate is needed. The Notarial Office is called the "Gong Zheng Chu" just in case of any confusion. All other translated documents should come from there too, like divorce decrees, custody agreements and police reports as applicable.
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Dec 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
A record of birth can be gotten at the local Notary office, as well as translation.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
QUOTE
Birth Certificates
Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3537.htmlAvailable in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Thank all for the valuable information. BTW, my finace was adopted by his current step-parents when he was a child. He has all the orginal adoption documents. So if he needs a notarial certificate of birth (chu sheng zheng), he has to list jus his step-parent Or his natural parents as well? He called the Guangzhou Consulate few times but the calls never got through. Pls advice. And I will try to post at candleforlove site. thanks.
QUOTE(Daisy088 @ Dec 14 2007, 07:21 AM)
QUOTE(YuAndDan @ Dec 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
A record of birth can be gotten at the local Notary office, as well as translation.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Other things required for interview are police record from local PSB, and translation from Notary office, and a Affidavit of marriageability from the notary office, + translation.
The Notary office will bind the translation to the respective certificate.
QUOTE
Birth Certificates
Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/reciproc...ocity_3537.htmlAvailable in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties.
While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption.
Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required.
NOTE, the China forum here on VJ tends to be lightly visited, the place to go for Chinese specific immigrations info is: "A Candle For Love"
http://candleforlove.com
That site is invaluable for preparing for the gauntlet known as GUZ or Guangzhou consulate.
The FAQ on Candle is second to none, as well as the USCONGUZ forum, there you fill find general questions asked of a counselor officer that works at the consulate.
Thank all for the valuable information. BTW, my finace was adopted by his current step-parents when he was a child. He has all the orginal adoption documents. So if he needs a notarial certificate of birth (chu sheng zheng), he has to list jus his step-parent Or his natural parents as well? He called the Guangzhou Consulate few times but the calls never got through. Pls advice. And I will try to post at candleforlove site. thanks.
I think he needs to get down to the Gong Zheng Chu and see what he can get. I'd say the birth certificate needs to be accurate but who is listed as parents in the petition and visa application? Alarm bells going off here.
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